I know that you last remark was a joke sort of, but I think that charging $10/hr is worse than not charging at all. It sets up an expectation that the can have your time for almost nothing.
You want to charge as much as you can without discouraging more work. But on the flipside, you don't want them calling you to shine shoes either.
Why is it that whenever someone questions the business practices of a company, someone has to point out that the company can set the rules because it owns the resources.
We already know that! Can't someone voice a complaint about a particular business practice?
Actually, I think the legally you are supposed to collect state tax (at least in my state) on garage sales. Of course this goes unenforced due to the scale, but the legal obligation exists.
I thought Debian's contributors wanted feedback. If something is free and sucks, it still sucks.
Note: I am not saying that Debian sucks, just that people have IMO very valid concerns about its installer. Why not voice them?
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Close but your a little off. I don't think that you could legally post the binaries on your website as the distro includes non free software(i.e. crossover)
So you would only legally be able to post the sources or binaries of stuff covered under the GPL (or another permissive license).
The GPL does not say that you have to provide the source free of charge. You are allowed to charge a fee for the production of the media, such as burning CDRs, shipping, etc.
I hope you didn't take my response as a personal attack on you. It was tough in cheek.
The thrust of my point, was primarily that colleges usually force students to pay a computer usage fee, even if they never touch a computer or use any bandwidth. That hardly seems fair.
(and yes, I am one of those terribly libertarian slashdotters, but the ownership of a resource implies the right to control it's use)
Er, but isn't the student a partial owner of the resource? I'm not a college student, but one of the issues I have with college internet services, is that you have no choice but to pay for the system. Seems to me they have alot more right to the bandwidth than a libertarian system admin:)
Anyone know of any schools that will let you opt out of computer usage, and corresponding fees? Can I buy more bandwidth from the school?
I got lucky, passed the IQ test in first grade, and landed in the enrichment program- all kinds of fun exercises that taught me how to not only solve a problem, but how to look for the answer- quantitative reasoning, non-linear thinking, forget the box and just THINK kind of stuff. Very cool stuff. Problem is, the school only gave it to the smart kids, when it should be a federal mandate that every child be trained in such a fashion.
Of course, if they did that, only the smart kids would get it. The dumb kids would still sit around, smoke pot and fail their classes. Such a program would actually give fair weight of grading to those who can think for themselves and those who can't- as opposed to someone who sucks at math but womps ass at english and art.
So what pray tell should be done with "the dumb kids". Should they be ignored, or do you think some good condescending tough love is in order?
Not to belabor the point, but most people value more in life than grades.
This argument is as painful now as it was when I was in school. So people are less inclined to learn about the things that you find interesting. Maybe they are involved in other pursuits (sports, dating, etc.)
Blaming students and then suggesting that all educational innovation is futile is ridiculous. What should we use to test student ambition, before making any expenditures on our part?
I am Familiar with the U.S. Constitution, however you sig makes me wonder if your views are in keeping with modern jurisprudence. Not to engage in political baiting, but it seems you take a very conservative view when it comes to property rights.
To take your point a little further. Why can I not bill for time spent disposing of junk mail? (in addition, materials garbage bags, etc.) What about electricity used to power the doorbell when a solicitor comes?
Spam sucks. However, I am not sure how much resources you are deprived of compared to other previously accepted solicitation norms.
I think you miss the point. The poster was pointing out that some are already asking ethical questions that would not have been entertained a few years ago.
If we are having this discussion now how is this a logical fallacy?
Something is going to go wrong during the installation (bad parts, weird software issues, etc.)
If managment is not demanding it I would steer very clear of this bottom end stuff. You will be married to it for the rest of your tenure with the company (and possibly afterwords).
I once did a DSL install for a retailer on the cheap. Using a low end computer that he had around I concted a video kiosk of sorts. Of course, the thing never worked like it should, and it reflected badly on me.
Isn't your job hard enough, that you should leave the OEM business to the OEMs?
Just because the guy has a stupid idea does not make it cool to take shots at people that work at supermarkets. We do not know what he does in his work capacity. Maybe he is an executive.
It is sad for me to see it when "educated" people ridicule others for what they do for a living.
What its time for is someone to use the EFF's open music license.
Back when I used to run an indy label I assumed that each release was like the equivalant to throwing a couple thousand doallars down a sewer. The profit wasn't the point.
If was thinking about starting a label now I would release the thing under (o) and walk away.
Total costs = a couple of hundred bucks (with the potential to be widely distributed)
or
$3500 = records sitting in your parents closet (ten years later)
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That is what freaks me out about whitelisting. What is the email that gets tossed is "you are hired"?
By your post I deduce that you read your junk email folder every so often. How is the problem solved this way?
I know that you last remark was a joke sort of, but I think that charging $10/hr is worse than not charging at all. It sets up an expectation that the can have your time for almost nothing.
You want to charge as much as you can without discouraging more work. But on the flipside, you don't want them calling you to shine shoes either.
Why is it that whenever someone questions the business practices of a company, someone has to point out that the company can set the rules because it owns the resources.
We already know that! Can't someone voice a complaint about a particular business practice?
Actually, I think the legally you are supposed to collect state tax (at least in my state) on garage sales. Of course this goes unenforced due to the scale, but the legal obligation exists.
I thought Debian's contributors wanted feedback. If something is free and sucks, it still sucks.
Note: I am not saying that Debian sucks, just that people have IMO very valid concerns about its installer. Why not voice them?
Close but your a little off. I don't think that you could legally post the binaries on your website as the distro includes non free software(i.e. crossover)
So you would only legally be able to post the sources or binaries of stuff covered under the GPL (or another permissive license).
The GPL does not say that you have to provide the source free of charge. You are allowed to charge a fee for the production of the media, such as burning CDRs, shipping, etc.
I hope you didn't take my response as a personal attack on you. It was tough in cheek.
The thrust of my point, was primarily that colleges usually force students to pay a computer usage fee, even if they never touch a computer or use any bandwidth. That hardly seems fair.
(and yes, I am one of those terribly libertarian slashdotters, but the ownership of a resource implies the right to control it's use)
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Er, but isn't the student a partial owner of the resource? I'm not a college student, but one of the issues I have with college internet services, is that you have no choice but to pay for the system. Seems to me they have alot more right to the bandwidth than a libertarian system admin
Anyone know of any schools that will let you opt out of computer usage, and corresponding fees? Can I buy more bandwidth from the school?
If you understand the concept of multiplication, then I think the problem is minor.
Committing multiplication tables to memory does not sound that much like learning to me.
as a NYC resident I can tell you the ban is only on handheld phones. If you are using a headset, that is legal.
So what pray tell should be done with "the dumb kids". Should they be ignored, or do you think some good condescending tough love is in order?
Not to belabor the point, but most people value more in life than grades.
This argument is as painful now as it was when I was in school. So people are less inclined to learn about the things that you find interesting. Maybe they are involved in other pursuits (sports, dating, etc.)
Blaming students and then suggesting that all educational innovation is futile is ridiculous. What should we use to test student ambition, before making any expenditures on our part?
my friend from Brazil calls it "carry ball"
Why not? Supporting some laws and opposing others does not necessarily make us hypocrites.
That is what the system is supposed to provide. A way for people to get governance that they want, and vice versa.
I am Familiar with the U.S. Constitution, however you sig makes me wonder if your views are in keeping with modern jurisprudence. Not to engage in political baiting, but it seems you take a very conservative view when it comes to property rights.
To take your point a little further. Why can I not bill for time spent disposing of junk mail? (in addition, materials garbage bags, etc.) What about electricity used to power the doorbell when a solicitor comes?
Spam sucks. However, I am not sure how much resources you are deprived of compared to other previously accepted solicitation norms.
I think you miss the point. The poster was pointing out that some are already asking ethical questions that would not have been entertained a few years ago.
If we are having this discussion now how is this a logical fallacy?
The idea that you can have users that are not admins but at the same time can make some changes (i.e. power users) is a good idea.
Using a nix system requries having absolute permissions make me nervious, even when i have the root account
Ok the disclaimer is that I watch about 2 hours of T.V. a week (at a friends house).
Hey man, I would be more then willing to pay for what I watch. I frankly would love the oppotunity!
I wonder what the networks would feel that my contribution would be to offset adverts?
Anyone know, because I would pay it if reasonable.
As an American, I'm willing to kick in my ten pounds (whatever that is) into the pot.
Seriously, at over $30 a month I would be glad to have it and ditch my current model.
Just out of curiosity, what should one peg labor costs on something like that at.
I realize that he may make more then a technician making it much less economical.
Anyone have any guidelines?
I wouldn't touch this one with a ten foot pole.
Something is going to go wrong during the installation (bad parts, weird software issues, etc.)
If managment is not demanding it I would steer very clear of this bottom end stuff. You will be married to it for the rest of your tenure with the company (and possibly afterwords).
I once did a DSL install for a retailer on the cheap. Using a low end computer that he had around I concted a video kiosk of sorts. Of course, the thing never worked like it should, and it reflected badly on me.
Isn't your job hard enough, that you should leave the OEM business to the OEMs?
Ok I gotta ask, what happens if I write a book that is not exactly science fiction but sort of "stretches" science a little bit? Is that tax evasion?
Is Kurzweil's book SciFi?
What about fantasy genre? Is that taxable, or are the flying dragons taxes exempt?
Just because the guy has a stupid idea does not make it cool to take shots at people that work at supermarkets. We do not know what he does in his work capacity. Maybe he is an executive.
It is sad for me to see it when "educated" people ridicule others for what they do for a living.
Next time just keep it on topic
What its time for is someone to use the EFF's open music license.
Back when I used to run an indy label I assumed that each release was like the equivalant to throwing a couple thousand doallars down a sewer. The profit wasn't the point.
If was thinking about starting a label now I would release the thing under (o) and walk away.
Total costs = a couple of hundred bucks (with the potential to be widely distributed)
or
$3500 = records sitting in your parents closet (ten years later)
When I write papers for school I cite works from other authors. Can you imagine if that was considered IP theft?