It IS amazing what open source developers work on. No doubt about it. But why is it that people are talking so big about the "Mac look and feel?" Why do linux cookbook programs all tend to resemble a spreadsheet? Why do weather programs for linux give us "Just the Facts" and don't focus on aesthetic? Some of them don't even parse the NWS output and print the full METAR line. That's nice, and it's efficient, but does it really look like something you can show mom and dad?
Clearly, there needs to be some kind of design that comes from outside the programmer's realm. I'm a very proficient coder.. but honestly, I can't design the graphical components worth a flip. My programs are going to be functional and well done, but they might not have the life that simply having a good aesthetic look would give it.
One of the things I've noticed about My Dream App is that a lot of people are suggesting things that "could" be done. The programmers are the ones going "No, no no, it'd be too hard." I think that stops a lot of good ideas getting through because of programmers "filters" blocking out something they see as too hard or too edgy.
There IS a lack of unique ideas in Linux programming. I'd like to see something that hasn't been done.. or at least a new look on an old task. Find something in linux that does something elegant while looking elegant.
And tell me what it is. Because I'd seriously like to have something that doesn't look barebones.
I seriously wish someone would do something like this for linux.. or offer some "idea bank."
I know plenty of programmers who are looking for decent ideas who just , through the harshness of their day jobs, don't have much time or desire to go home and repeat the process of spec design/etc.
Or on the other other hand, we can point out that the article has no specifics at all. It is completely unverifiable, AND it's not even written by the principal source.
We might just want to leave Facebook alone since this event might not have even happened.
The thing that saddens me is that there will be a number of people here who, despite this event NEVER happening, will say "But it COULD happen, and we should be concerned."
I COULD be given a $10,000,000 raise by my company.. but I'm not going to worry about how to invest the money until that occurs.
I've considered testing, but the problem with testing is that it still doesn't get nearly the support or help that stable gets. Something goes wrong in testing and I'm told "Well, it IS testing."
Nah.
I'd rather just use FreeBSD or something that is supported instead of relatively ignored..
OHH! But Debian stable is "STABLE." It's rock solid. Why would you need anything else? I mean, come on, you want stable, right?
I used to be into Debian, until I realized that stable also meant featureless.. and that they would continually be behind on the Stable release. I'm sorry, but I can't use old versions of software , even on the server side, when newer versions are more optimized for what I'm doing.
Boardgamegeek uses a unique little ranking algorithim that makes it very hard to rig a game. I generally have been perfectly satisified by the recommendations I read there, plus, you can dig deeper into the game and see if you really want it.
Doom, incredibly.. looks like it could be a good game.
It was an industrial laser. He knew the power of it in the interrogation, and had flashed a plane and a helicopter.
He knew what he was doing.
And for those talking about planes landing themselves.. No.. this wasn't a 747 heavy, this was a Cessna. They don't land themselves. Trust me. The passengers on that plane were in VERY real danger from this man.
Knowledge is knowing that Offside is reliant on three conditions and knowing those three conditions. Knowledge is knowing there are ten penal fouls that result in a direct free kick.
Intelligence is knowing that the second you hear the sound, you hit your run and your line. Intelligence is passing into space knowing that a teammate will outrun his marking man. Intelligence is knowing that the referee is calling heavy on pushes but a little lighter on trips, and so when beat, trying a poke instead of a shoulder charge.
ALL those things have been said to me by 11 year olds, on the pitch, thought up completely by them.
Intelligence is applied knowledge, and I assure you that 11 year olds can retain some staggering intelligence.
Remember, these are not the same type of kids we were. These guys have had computers, gamesystems, and the like ALL THEIR LIFE. They might know a bit more about it. They are the entertainment generation.
I referee soccer. I deal with 11 year olds and younger and older all the time. Don't doubt them. They're a lot smarter than they ever let on. I've had discussions in game with a few of them and they brought up soccer stars of old, plays that are legendary but fifty years old, and history of games and rules that a lot of advanced referees in my area don't know.
11 year olds can be EXTREMELY intelligent, so long as they've not been told to shut up all their life.
The prospective law bans retailers of doing that. So , no, it's not written for parents. If I wanted to buy a game for my kid, I could.
From the article..
CHICAGO - Gov. Rod Blagojevich is proposing to make it a misdemeanor for businesses to sell violent and sexually explicit video games to minors, a step that other states have tried with little success.
I didn't have to buy a Virus scan for windows, nor did I have to buy an office suite. Those were all on the internet ready to download, and they were free. (Yes, the virus scan was free as in beer..)
So.. I did it the same way for windows that my gentoo box does it. Download and install.
And if you think software in linux is fundamentally different in distribution and such than software in windows, then you've been sticking your head in the sand and ignoring what methods of distribution exist in windows nowadays.
Wouldn't surprise me if they leaked it intentionally to 1) Get free press and 2) get some of the major pirates. I wouldn't be too surprised to see tracking codes of some type embedded in this.
Hey, if the MPAA knows I'm down'ing a torrent.. then it doesn't surprise me re MS. And as for how they can ban your XBL account? They're MS.
And then you never get hired again since every time a background check is done on you a lawsuit shows up, and in most states they can deny you employment for most any reason save the illegal discriminatory reasons.
This is a BS suit if I've ever heard one. So wait, Kazaa is arguing that the RIAA used an illegal client, and therefore they are committing copyright infringement?
First off, if a product or service is illegal, then all contracts regarding that service are also illegal. They're null and void. The RIAA acted in "good faith" on the laws in place. They were seeing torts committed against them, and were securing the names of those who've wronged them. Remember, most of what the RIAA/MPAA has been suing for are CIVIL actions. It is no different than them hiring a private investigator.
Which, a private investigator is not a law enforcement entity. They are allowed to obtain evidence in other manners that the normal officers of the courts are not allowed to use. The RIAA just used an "alternative" method. I doubt they are liable for anything on this one.
Finally, it's not copyright infringement to use software without permission. It's violation of license terms and possible theft. The problem is, Kazaa's people KNEW about Kazaalite for a long time. The fact that they did nothing about them could be implied to be a consent. They certainly didn't seek to protect their trademark.
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It IS amazing what open source developers work on. No doubt about it. But why is it that people are talking so big about the "Mac look and feel?" Why do linux cookbook programs all tend to resemble a spreadsheet? Why do weather programs for linux give us "Just the Facts" and don't focus on aesthetic? Some of them don't even parse the NWS output and print the full METAR line. That's nice, and it's efficient, but does it really look like something you can show mom and dad?
Clearly, there needs to be some kind of design that comes from outside the programmer's realm. I'm a very proficient coder.. but honestly, I can't design the graphical components worth a flip. My programs are going to be functional and well done, but they might not have the life that simply having a good aesthetic look would give it.
One of the things I've noticed about My Dream App is that a lot of people are suggesting things that "could" be done. The programmers are the ones going "No, no no, it'd be too hard." I think that stops a lot of good ideas getting through because of programmers "filters" blocking out something they see as too hard or too edgy.
There IS a lack of unique ideas in Linux programming. I'd like to see something that hasn't been done.. or at least a new look on an old task. Find something in linux that does something elegant while looking elegant.
And tell me what it is. Because I'd seriously like to have something that doesn't look barebones.
I seriously wish someone would do something like this for linux.. or offer some "idea bank."
/etc.
I know plenty of programmers who are looking for decent ideas who just , through the harshness of their day jobs, don't have much time or desire to go home and repeat the process of spec design
Or on the other other hand, we can point out that the article has no specifics at all. It is completely unverifiable, AND it's not even written by the principal source.
We might just want to leave Facebook alone since this event might not have even happened.
The thing that saddens me is that there will be a number of people here who, despite this event NEVER happening, will say "But it COULD happen, and we should be concerned."
I COULD be given a $10,000,000 raise by my company.. but I'm not going to worry about how to invest the money until that occurs.
I've considered testing, but the problem with testing is that it still doesn't get nearly the support or help that stable gets. Something goes wrong in testing and I'm told "Well, it IS testing."
Nah.
I'd rather just use FreeBSD or something that is supported instead of relatively ignored..
OHH! But Debian stable is "STABLE." It's rock solid. Why would you need anything else? I mean, come on, you want stable, right?
I used to be into Debian, until I realized that stable also meant featureless.. and that they would continually be behind on the Stable release. I'm sorry, but I can't use old versions of software , even on the server side, when newer versions are more optimized for what I'm doing.
Boardgamegeek uses a unique little ranking algorithim that makes it very hard to rig a game. I generally have been perfectly satisified by the recommendations I read there, plus, you can dig deeper into the game and see if you really want it.
Doom, incredibly.. looks like it could be a good game.
Yes it does.
He was using a laser that could be calibrated for testing fiber op cables , that qualifies as an industrial use.
Besides, in another article on this it states it was a high powered industrial laser.
This was not a cheap laser pointer.
It was an industrial laser. He knew the power of it in the interrogation, and had flashed a plane and a helicopter.
He knew what he was doing.
And for those talking about planes landing themselves.. No.. this wasn't a 747 heavy, this was a Cessna. They don't land themselves. Trust me. The passengers on that plane were in VERY real danger from this man.
Well.. the problem is, it wasn't just a laser pointer like the ones that fits on a key chain or a pen..
It was a laser purchased for $100 on ebay that could be used to effectively test fiber optic cables.
During questioning, the guy said to not point it at him because it could blind him.
He hit a plane.. and then, days later, hit a low flying police helicopter.
He flashed inside planes.. and the fact is, had he not been caught, all accounts show he'd have continued flashing planes. On approach.
Yes, he's a moron. But he could have killed hundreds.
Taking from the referee experience.
Knowledge is knowing that Offside is reliant on three conditions and knowing those three conditions. Knowledge is knowing there are ten penal fouls that result in a direct free kick.
Intelligence is knowing that the second you hear the sound, you hit your run and your line. Intelligence is passing into space knowing that a teammate will outrun his marking man.
Intelligence is knowing that the referee is calling heavy on pushes but a little lighter on trips, and so when beat, trying a poke instead of a shoulder charge.
ALL those things have been said to me by 11 year olds, on the pitch, thought up completely by them.
Intelligence is applied knowledge, and I assure you that 11 year olds can retain some staggering intelligence.
Remember, these are not the same type of kids we were. These guys have had computers, gamesystems, and the like ALL THEIR LIFE. They might know a bit more about it. They are the entertainment generation.
Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know. I know that it wouldn't be the first bad Christian Slater movie to get relegated to the unending replays on Cable TV..
I referee soccer. I deal with 11 year olds and younger and older all the time. Don't doubt them. They're a lot smarter than they ever let on. I've had discussions in game with a few of them and they brought up soccer stars of old, plays that are legendary but fifty years old, and history of games and rules that a lot of advanced referees in my area don't know.
11 year olds can be EXTREMELY intelligent, so long as they've not been told to shut up all their life.
The prospective law bans retailers of doing that. So , no, it's not written for parents. If I wanted to buy a game for my kid, I could.
From the article..
CHICAGO - Gov. Rod Blagojevich is proposing to make it a misdemeanor for businesses to sell violent and sexually explicit video games to minors, a step that other states have tried with little success.
Uhh..
Yes. It's called "Buying the game for them"
Just like they have to buy the tickets for the minors for R rated movies. (Technically)
It is in Tennessee..
Illegal to let a minor into an R rated movie without his parents. The law even stipulates that you card both the parent and the minor.
Just a point of order. I run Linux and Windows.
I didn't have to buy a Virus scan for windows, nor did I have to buy an office suite. Those were all on the internet ready to download, and they were free. (Yes, the virus scan was free as in beer..)
So.. I did it the same way for windows that my gentoo box does it. Download and install.
And if you think software in linux is fundamentally different in distribution and such than software in windows, then you've been sticking your head in the sand and ignoring what methods of distribution exist in windows nowadays.
Wrong.
Wrong wrong wrong.
If you release something without any license (mind you, it still has a clickthrough) then your copyright is still legitimate.
Remember, absence of license does NOT equal public domain, it equals NO RIGHT to run at all.
I don't think that is the issue. The issue is the following language:
under the proposed law, skipping any commercials or promotional announcements would be prohibited
===-=-==-==-==-=
See, that's the problem. That's not what the law says. You're reading from the article. Which is not what the bill says.
Oh, my bad. Only Wired seems to call it the Intellectual Property Protection Act.
Others call it by the bill's REAL name.
UHHH.. I can't find this bill on www.congress.gov
Are you sure it's 2391?
JH
Wouldn't surprise me if they leaked it intentionally to 1) Get free press and 2) get some of the major pirates. I wouldn't be too surprised to see tracking codes of some type embedded in this.
Hey, if the MPAA knows I'm down'ing a torrent.. then it doesn't surprise me re MS. And as for how they can ban your XBL account? They're MS.
And then you never get hired again since every time a background check is done on you a lawsuit shows up, and in most states they can deny you employment for most any reason save the illegal discriminatory reasons.
This is a BS suit if I've ever heard one. So wait, Kazaa is arguing that the RIAA used an illegal client, and therefore they are committing copyright infringement?
First off, if a product or service is illegal, then all contracts regarding that service are also illegal. They're null and void. The RIAA acted in "good faith" on the laws in place. They were seeing torts committed against them, and were securing the names of those who've wronged them. Remember, most of what the RIAA/MPAA has been suing for are CIVIL actions. It is no different than them hiring a private investigator.
Which, a private investigator is not a law enforcement entity. They are allowed to obtain evidence in other manners that the normal officers of the courts are not allowed to use. The RIAA just used an "alternative" method. I doubt they are liable for anything on this one.
Finally, it's not copyright infringement to use software without permission. It's violation of license terms and possible theft. The problem is, Kazaa's people KNEW about Kazaalite for a long time. The fact that they did nothing about them could be implied to be a consent. They certainly didn't seek to protect their trademark.
So.. in the end.. I hope Kazaa loses.
magnwa
Since Issue #8 and according to what www.uspto.gov implies. Ownership/management implies content ownership. It implies a work for hire situation.
Ignorant of trademark law? Hardly.