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DOOM: The Boardgame

Ant writes "And I thought I had seen it all from DOOM world. Nope, there is a boardgame! It is for 2 to 4 players, playable in 1 to 2 hours, based on the groundbreaking DOOM 3 computer game by id Software. Seen on Blue's News." There's also Frag, which IMHO isn't a very good boardgame. The Doom game looks like it might work, though.

315 comments

  1. Wow, they mean it. by ScytheBlade1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    66 Plastic Miniatures, including:
    6 Archvile figures
    6 Demon figures
    6 Hell Knight figures
    6 Mancubus figures
    6 Custom Dice

    Wow, they really took that to heart, didn't they?

    1. Re:Wow, they mean it. by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 4, Funny

      They forgot...

      A flashlight! With some duct tape... to stick it to your shotgun!

    2. Re:Wow, they mean it. by w4f7z · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Doom: The Boardgame $54.95" At $15 more than Doom3 (the computer game) is going for at EB games is it really worth it? It seems that the slandering of plastic Imp figurines will never rival the much more viral experience of playing the PC game.

    3. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hope those $15 also include the necessary computer upgrades for most of us to play decently.

      Now seriously, why should you think of this game as a competition to the computer game? It's a board game, a different niche. They rather complement each other (in terms of profit for ID Software).

    4. Re:Wow, they mean it. by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Confession: I haven't actually played this, but it's been hanging around several stores I frequent like an unsalable boatanchor for some time now. I thought it looked exceedingly poor, and the impression I got from reading the back of box copy was that someone had just picked up a half finished fps-board game ( probably inspired (?) by Frag ) and 'skinned' it to make it Doom. I wouldn't waste your money. ( But remember - I haven't played it! It might be a sleeper hit. )

      There's also a Warcraft III boardgame which looked quite dull - these crossovers always seem a kind of puzzling decision to me. Stick to what you're good at, guys.

      In summary, I'd save your pennies for Acquire, which I hear is really good, or Blockus. Board games are expensive these days - sit back and wait for the dust to clear from the annual awards shows and then move in and pick off the victors.

      YLFI
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    5. Re:Wow, they mean it. by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      ""Doom: The Boardgame $54.95" At $15 more than Doom3 (the computer game) is going for at EB games is it really worth it?"

      Well, it'll work when ever Steam goes down, so you'll be... Oh. Sorry, wrong game.

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    6. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Wow. This is even better than my Sims 2 Doom Customization Pack.

    7. Re:Wow, they mean it. by JPriest · · Score: 1

      $55 might be alot for a game but some of the hard core Doom fans will still buy it. I know a guy that spent $2,000 on a Darth Vader costume (and not for halloween)!

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    8. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      For nightmare mode, you can play in the dark with only one hand and a flashlight that only has a momentary switch.

      Bring it on (the one hand in the dark jokes!)

    9. Re:Wow, they mean it. by bioglaze · · Score: 1

      I Really like the boardgame. I have recently been playing it with my friends, and it's fun. Of course we listen to the original Doom music while playing. We had to modify the rules a little, because we constantly ran out of ammo with three player + invader game.

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    10. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Gopal.V · · Score: 4, Funny

      At least it's better than Quake with punch cards

    11. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Lobishomen · · Score: 1
      Looks like it still needs the following:

      Crossbow of Slaying +6
      Hackmaster +13
      Tome of Infinite Spells
      Two hour time limit or the GM wins.
      Lots and lots of Orcs to kill

      Then it might be a respectable board game.

    12. Re:Wow, they mean it. by OP_Boot · · Score: 1

      I wonder when the first God hacks will start appearing for it?

    13. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least it's better than Quake with punch cards

      And I'll bet it's better than the link to 'User Friendly' you provided; but that's a truism- root canal surgery is more fun than User Friendly.

      Witless crap masquerading as geek insight.

    14. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please do the world a favor and go castrate that guy.

      I know, I know. There's not a lot of chance of someone that stupid reproducing, but we can't take that chance!

    15. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Schnapple · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Acquire is a game I never heard of before meeting my Wife. She and her family are PSYCHO about that game. They still had a copy from the 1960's that was on its last leg.

      Christmas before last I got them the last copy in the area. Seems it was re-released in 1999 by Hasbro, who owned Avalon Hill (ironically, for the purposes of putting out a new Civilization computer game). I was the hero of the day. I still don't get how to play the stupid game, and the one thing her family doesn't like is the fact that the hotel companies in the game were changed to tech companies (it was 1999 and all) but they can play the game for like five hours without breaking a sweat.

      As far as I know the 1999 printing is the latest one and as a result, the game's been out of print ever since. If you're in the mood for a "hardcore" boardgame snatch it up while you still can...

    16. Re:Wow, they mean it. by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1

      Ahh, that would be the unfortunately OOP "Orcs at the Gates". I really wish I could find a copy of that. I haven't checked E-Bay yet. I've been semi-hesitant, beacuse I'm concerned about pieces being missing.

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    17. Re:Wow, they mean it. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Board games are only expensive if you buy the expensive ones. I find that with board games, going with the classics usually leads to cheaper games, as well as much more fun games. The latest fad games are almost always extremely boring, or extremely complicated when compared to classics like Scrabble, Trivial Pursuit, Risk, Monopoly, and other classics.

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    18. Re:Wow, they mean it. by tigress · · Score: 1

      To be honest, between Doom and Quake, I must say that I actually prefer good ol' Counter Strike.

    19. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      You forgot the 66 "Call your opponent a fag" cards.

    20. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Drey · · Score: 1

      I own it and I've played it. I found it more enjoyable then the video game it's based on. The Warcraft 3 board game is quite good as well.

    21. Re:Wow, they mean it. by mark_montreuil · · Score: 1

      DOOM the Boardgame is a lot like the old Space Hulk Game. One player takes the role of the Invader/DM, and the other players take the Marines. The map gets built as the Marines open up new areas, and the Invader player can play cards to do various things, such as spawning in new monsters, causing ammo loss, activating monsters out of turn, etc. Marines each get a number of special abilities, and can get more armour, better weapons, ammo, etc. by collecting it on the board. Combat is simple, and different weapons are better at certain ranges, or have a higher chance of wasting ammo. DOOM is like playing a simple game of D&D with BFG's, but the main objective is not to collect loot, but to escape. I have played the game a few times, and with the right crowd, it is a lot of fun.

    22. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Johnny5000 · · Score: 1

      I know a guy that spent $2,000 on a Darth Vader costume (and not for halloween)!

      Did he get the version with a button to press when he needs his mom to come pick him up?

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    23. Re:Wow, they mean it. by smyle · · Score: 1
      Mmmm... Imperial vs. Continental.

      Dang. I bet it's been 15 years since I've played that.

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    24. Re:Wow, they mean it. by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 1

      I believe it may still be in print - a friend of mine was telling me about how good it was, so we went down to the local boardgame places and let her have a shufti on the shelves to see if she could find it. We did find it, but it was a bit more than we were willing to shell that evening, so maybe we'll go back.

      The store Games Paradise in Sydney, Australia, still seems to be carrying stock, and they ship internationally ( and for free in that price bracket ). It's about A$109 ( ~US$85 ).

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    25. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Schnapple · · Score: 1
      I'm pretty sure that the reason you can still find it is not because it's still in print but rather because it's just not fanatically popular. I mean it is popular or else people wouldn't have bought enough copies to keep it in print as long as it has been, but I'm pretty sure Hasbro has long since shuttered Avalon Hill and the last copies of 1999 Acquire are just that - lingering.

      More info here.

    26. Re:Wow, they mean it. by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 1

      I agree, to a point, but Scrabble is the only one of these 'classics' that I feel the urge to play regularly.

      Tried to buy a Scrabble set lately? There's "classic", "wood board"/"deluxe", "travel", some kids thing that uses dice to determine the word score multiplier, etc etc. The strange thing was, the classic edition was the hardest to find! I really had to tromp around to get one.

      YLFI,
      QUARTZ on a TWS.
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    27. Re:Wow, they mean it. by bensafrickingenius · · Score: 1

      "The latest fad games are almost always extremely boring, or extremely complicated when compared to classics like Scrabble, Trivial Pursuit, Risk, Monopoly, and other classics."

      Did anyone else feel like they'd been slapped in the face to hear Trivial Pursuit called a "classic"? Don't get me wrong -- it deserves the honor, but it seems like yesterday that my family brought home the original ("Genus"?) version and started wasting away the hours.

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    28. Re:Wow, they mean it. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      the game came out in 1982. That's 23 years. Not sure how old you are, but it seems like a while to me. I'm only 24. Maybe just because I live in Canada I feel like it's more of a classic, because it's so popular here. Everybody plays it.

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    29. Re:Wow, they mean it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think he would need it any more seems how he quit his job to move back in with his mom.

  2. Doom 3 Chess? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody made a mod like Quake Chess yet?

    1. Re:Doom 3 Chess? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last I saw was BattleChess back in 1992.

  3. frame rate by frankmu · · Score: 5, Funny

    i guess i won't have to worry about getting a new graphics card after all

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    1. Re:frame rate by jokumuu · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the frame rate on it is quite low, human the lag in movement should be noticable, with most things appearing to stand still.

    2. Re:frame rate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i guess i won't have to worry about getting a new graphics card after all

      I want to upgrade, I mean who wants to play the DOOM board game at a measly 24 fps? I thought about overclocking but I'm too afraid I'll fry something.

    3. Re:frame rate by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Funny

      > i guess i won't have to worry about getting a new graphics card after all

      Heh, I bet this is a blessing to parents getting hit up by their kids for a $200 video card to play a $60 game.

      Xmas 2004:

      Kid: Dad did you get me the game and the card I need to play it?

      Dad: Almost, son! Here you go!

      Kid tears at package to find The Doom III boardgame.

      Dad: Merry Christmas! You didnt think I was going to spend almost $300 so you could play some game?

    4. Re:frame rate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop making me feel bad, I hit up my parents for a new vid card for christmas and it was way more expensive than that. Admittedly though, they did owe me money.

    5. Re:frame rate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL $200?

      I hit my parents up for a $600 one. Being an only child rocks! :)

    6. Re:frame rate by qyiet · · Score: 1

      Actually... if you are playing frag (the other fps boardgame mentioned) such things as graphics card.. and your PC being last years model count.

      No really.. and lag sucks too. The only difference is you get to "gift" it to others.

  4. Character development by Infonaut · · Score: 4, Funny
    But how will we get to replicate the beautiful character development of the video game in a mere board game?

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    1. Re:Character development by Zorilla · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, I'm still waiting for Duke Togo to get his own board game.

      "You encounter Maria Lovelette. What do you say?"

      a) "....."
      b) "........"

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    2. Re:Character development by sponga · · Score: 1

      I heard the best experience is to lock yourself in the darkest room, oh and dont forget your flashlight while playing.

    3. Re:Character development by autechre · · Score: 1

      It may only be 12:25, but I'm prepared to say that that was the best post I'll read today.

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  5. If you're curious... by Zorilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's a look at the roll result matrix:

    Roll a 1: You are unable to see shit; lost 5 HP
    Roll a 2: You are unable to see shit; lose 5 HP
    Roll a 3: You are unable to see shit; lose 5 HP
    Roll a 4: You are unable to see shit; lose 5 HP
    Roll a 5: You are unable to see shit; lose 5 HP
    Roll a 6: You are unable to see shit; lose 5 HP
    Roll a 7: You are unable to see shit; lose 5 HP
    Roll a 8: You are unable to see shit; lose 5 HP

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    1. Re:If you're curious... by inertia187 · · Score: 2, Funny

      People in Soviet Russia, however, appear to be afflicted with amusing juxtapositions of the aforementioned situation.

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    2. Re:If you're curious... by conna01 · · Score: 1

      Good point. I hope the cards glow in the dark or the game comes with candles.

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    3. Re:If you're curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dammit. So does this mean you can't roll and use the flashlight at the same time?

    4. Re:If you're curious... by irokitt · · Score: 1

      What, shit can see me?

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    5. Re:If you're curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently you can't roll and hold the flashlight at the same time.

    6. Re:If you're curious... by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

      Shit can't see you.

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    7. Re:If you're curious... by DeathByDuke · · Score: 1

      Roll a 9: You shit your pants when you find a flashlight and a see a Pinky: lose 50 HP

    8. Re:If you're curious... by ozbird · · Score: 3, Funny

      Doom 3: the Bored Game.

      You suddenly realize it is unnaturally quiet. --More--
      A cloud of darkness falls upon you. --More--
      You are hit! You are hit! You die... --More--

    9. Re:If you're curious... by rxmd · · Score: 1

      DYWYPI?

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    10. Re:If you're curious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were carrying:
      the rustproof +7 BFG9K (wielded)
      a worthless piece of red keycard named soft
      a worthless piece of blue keycard named soft
      body armor (0:0) (being worn)
      an empty flashlight

  6. Well, for one... by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... i hope it comes with a roll of duct tape!

    (PS: I loved D3!)

    1. Re:Well, for one... by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1

      I'll play as long as I can use the little pewter dog from Monopoly.

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    2. Re:Well, for one... by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      Nah. Meowth from the Pokemon version.

  7. Looks less than thrilling by Rhsqueak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Somehow I just don't think that a board game is going to be able to capture either the immersive atmosphere of the game. The game was all about being alone, how can you play it with other people?

    Besides, its hard to play a board game in the middle of the night with the lights off.

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    1. Re:Looks less than thrilling by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

      I'm just looking forward to seeing how totally completely different it's going to be from the actual game. I'd really like to see how they pull this one off.

      You know, I hear they've got "Tetris the Playing Card Game" and "PacMan the pen&paper RPG" in the works as well.

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    2. Re:Looks less than thrilling by stm2 · · Score: 1

      There was a Pac Man board game. Pacman eats withe marbles and a maze painted on the board. I bought at ebay but left it in an ex-g/f house :(
      Here is one in ebay.

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    3. Re:Looks less than thrilling by Bohnanza · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yea, who the hell would want to play games with other people??

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  8. Groundbreaking? by EEBaum · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The author is quite kind. I'd hardly call a very pretty FPS "groundbreaking." Then again, with the extremely low amount of groundbreakery in video games lately, perhaps it is.

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    1. Re:Groundbreaking? by aichpvee · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, well that's just because no one will help make my game: Early American Steam Shovel Tycoon.

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    2. Re:Groundbreaking? by s74n13y · · Score: 1

      And I thought somehow..I just don't think that requires an excessive process of burying it under the promise of being groundbreaking. Then again, with the extremely low amount of groundbreaking games around people have been considered everything groundbreaking. You know, I could have some sort of Role-Playing element to the largest of which IMHO isn't a very pretty FPS groundbreaking? These people have been rather publically in development of it for a least a year. Is there something groundbreaking? For those wondering, it's made discoveries that would forever change human existence. The Union Aerospace Corporation, an arm of the game when you was a kid, and no doubt long before you build up your marines taking a pounding? Or do they win all the time, and graphics taken from DOOM 3 computer game. The game's also Frag, which stands approximately 80mm tall, and no doubt long before that requires excessive processing powerful conglomerate on Earth, was performing secret experiments in the single-player element to the level of your worst nightmare. Doom is a GREAT video game lately, but perhaps I just don't think that requires excessive processing. OK then, is something groundbreaking in this version? Marines taking DOOM world. Nope, there is a GREAT video game includes more accurate to capture either the immersive atmosphere of the underworld? Then something I am not getting here? Most board game is going to be able to company that would forever change human existence. Then something groundbreaking in this is "news"... not only was it released a while ago, it had been rather boring to people? The author not very kind. I'd hardly call it a very good board game. Doom rules now online!

    3. Re:Groundbreaking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off and go join the people who complain about all new music and reminisce about "back in the day". People have been saying the same thing for years, and you know what? New, interesting things are released at pretty much the same rate they've always been.

    4. Re:Groundbreaking? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      What?

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    5. Re:Groundbreaking? by s74n13y · · Score: 1

      Yes, almost certainly.

  9. Hmmm... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now if it were Demonslayers of Catan they might be onto something...

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have nothing constructive to add, but your idea sounds freaking awesome, and somebody needed to say it.

  10. Since when? by Malicious · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Since when has Doom3 been considered "Ground Breaking"? People have been running around in the dark with flashlights since I was a kid, and no doubt long before that.
    Anyone can make a High poly game that requires excessive processing power. There's not really anything "Ground Breaking" about it aside from the process of burrying it under ground.

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    1. Re:Since when? by MMaestro · · Score: 1
      Anyone can make a High poly game that requires excessive processing power.

      And yet no one else did it (UT2k4 wasn't too high-end and Half-Life 2 came afterwards). Its like making fun of the first guy to buy an automobile on the block. Everyone else who has a horse-and-buggy will laugh at the guy pointing out its flaws. 20 years in the future, everyone will be saying 'well I WOULD have done it sooner, I just didn't want to.'

    2. Re:Since when? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the flashlight part was pretty groundbreaking.
      Before that, we only had brass lanterns:

      "You have wandered into a dark place. You are likely to be eaten be a grue."

    3. Re:Since when? by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 1
      Anyone can make a High poly game that requires excessive processing power"

      So where is yours ?... troll...

    4. Re:Since when? by ericvids · · Score: 4, Informative

      > Anyone can make a High poly game that requires excessive processing power.

      Pardon me for nitpicking, but how exactly is Doom 3 a high-poly game that requires "excessive" processing power? If you took Doom 3's graphics on its own and slapped it on an older engine, it would take much, much longer to draw at the same quality.

      You're clearly underestimating the massive engineering effort put into making the game. If you think Doom 3's engine was just created by "anyone", think again. Setting aside who made that graphics engine (as there are already lots of Carmack fanboys in the world to emphasize that point), the algorithms used in the game are the product of years of research work by other guys who aren't even directly involved in Doom 3's making.

      The shadows alone, though largely derided by most people for making the game "too dark", is only made possible due to Everitt, Kilgard and other people's groundbreaking research work on the area. I currently have their papers on my desk. Without those algorithms, Doom 3's shadows would approach *polynomial* time just to get it to render!

      If you want to criticize the game itself, go ahead. (I personally liked the game's atmosphere more than Half-Life 2, but my subjective opinions rarely count for anything.) But don't discount the fact that it took real people with great minds to actually make these stuff. I could say with absolute certainty that Doom 3 is ground-breaking in the graphics arena.

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    5. Re:Since when? by phoenix321 · · Score: 1

      Played it on an AMD 1800+ with a GF4200Ti without too much of a problem. This is a 4y old computer that wasn't anything high-end when I bought it. Doom3 ran playable on that thing and it was fun. I think its hardware requirements are severely overestimated. It had some lag, though. The first game for each session hadn't cached all weapon models, so it was useful to cycle all weapons at the spawn to not have the lag when they're needed later on. Except for that one ulra-large room down the old excavation site, just after the long sliding lift - that scene was unplayable with 3fps or less. Everything else was ok.

    6. Re:Since when? by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 1

      works perfectly on gentoo, with a gig of ram, a athlon-xp2000+ and a 128mb 5200FX graphics card

    7. Re:Since when? by dkf · · Score: 1
      Without those algorithms, Doom 3's shadows would approach *polynomial* time just to get it to render!

      Trust me, as a coder of much experience, that linear time and constant time are both polynomial. What you said just doesn't mean what you seem to think it means...
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    8. Re:Since when? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he means order(n^2).

    9. Re:Since when? by ericvids · · Score: 1

      > I think he means order(n^2).

      Actually I meant n^3. In a high-level view, that means checking each polygon with each and every other polygon, which you have to clip with all other polygons surrounding the target polygon just to compute the area being shadowed. Compared to rendering a shadow volume in a stencil buffer (using the aforementioned technique of course), and rendering the same scene with the mask that was produced, which just takes linear time.

      It just looks undramatic when I say "cubic time", so I just said it's polynomial. ;)

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  11. looks familiar... by joshsisk · · Score: 1

    Anyone remember Space Hulk? This reminds me of that... Which is cool, that was a fun game.

    1. Re:looks familiar... by Infinity+Salad · · Score: 1

      You beat me to it! I saw those cardstock bulkheads and instinctively started trying to figure out how to best use my flamer shots. . .

    2. Re:looks familiar... by damiangerous · · Score: 1
      Remember it? I still play it! Sadly only on the computer nowadays though. There's three programs that I know of:

      QSpaceHulk is probably the best. It's 2nd edition, unfortunately, but it does have multiplayer. It's GPL'd

      Sulk has a lot of potential. It's 1st edition and has a good AI, but currently no network play (only hotseat). It's written in Python with PyGame and is GPL'd.

      Finally there's Spacehulk-SP. I don't know much about this one since it's written in VB and I haven't tried it under WINE. Surprisingly, it's GPL'd as well though.

  12. hmm... by ImTheDarkcyde · · Score: 1

    you know, i could have swore i read about this in PC Gamer.. about a year ago.

    personally i like the civilization board game more

    1. Re:hmm... by Atrax · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's not that new - my local geek bookshop has had the Doom3 boardgame in for at least a few months now - considered treating myself before christmas but then thought to myself "well who exactly would I play this with?"

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    2. Re:hmm... by Hawkxor · · Score: 1

      One difference is, the Civilization board game came FIRST.

    3. Re:hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The newest Civilization board game (Sid Meier's Civilization by Eagle Games) actually is based on the computer game series (which is, of course, based on the original board game.)

  13. A lot like Gamesworkshops' Space Hulk by dennisr · · Score: 1

    I loved Space Hulk when I was younger but it has been out of print for a while. Gene Stealers and Space Machines on a re-configurable maze. When I saw Doom at my local mall my first thought was Space Hulk.

    Doom is nearly identical to the core of Space Hulk. More weapons, more monsters, and more tile types is all.

    If you liked Space Hulk you will like Doom.

    1. Re:A lot like Gamesworkshops' Space Hulk by dennisr · · Score: 1

      Of course I meant Space Marines.

    2. Re:A lot like Gamesworkshops' Space Hulk by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Space Hulk was a terrific game. Much like the X-Com series, it was a turn-based (the "freeze time" button) tactical shooter that didn't feel like one, and was a load of fun to play.

      I never got to play the board game it was based on, but that could be fun...

    3. Re:A lot like Gamesworkshops' Space Hulk by Infinity+Salad · · Score: 1

      You also meant "Games Workshop" and "Genestealer"!

    4. Re:A lot like Gamesworkshops' Space Hulk by SteelLynx · · Score: 1

      If you ever come across the board game give it a try. Though I'd suggest playing it somewhere with a lot of floor space since the more advanced board layouts are, iirc, a bit large ;-)

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    5. Re:A lot like Gamesworkshops' Space Hulk by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      Did you ever try Incubation by BlueByte ? It was a great game and very similar to Space Hulk in that you had a load of marines with different weapons and it was turn based.

      There was an awful lot of weaponary to choose from to arm your team and they gained experience as they went on and survived missions.

  14. Eh???? by dbottaro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there something I am not getting here?

    Most board games have some sort of Role-Playing element to them, not just "You walk into a room with 3 Cyberdemons. You died." Doom is a GREAT video game as most hack and slash games like it. How does gameplay flow?

    Are there character goals? Can you build up your marine to rule the underworld?

    Then again, perhaps I just don't get it...

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    1. Re:Eh???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You "role-play" a space marine. Your goal is to kill demons. Gameplay involves killing demons. You lose if you die.

      Seriously though, the rules can be found online at http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/doomsupport.html if you want to understand how the game works.

    2. Re:Eh???? by bryll · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, if you play in 'campaign' mode you get to beef up your character over time. Mostly in the way of 'default' armour and such. The board game is actually a lot of fun to play. It's slow, tactical and actually requires some thought - completely unlike Doom 3!

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    3. Re:Eh???? by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

      You really don't seem to get it, but that's probably because you've got a fairly limited experience with board games.

      The Doom game is a scenario-based tactical game ala the classic game Space Hulk.

      The rules are available as a pdf, for those interested in perusing them.

    4. Re:Eh???? by ajs · · Score: 1

      Most board games have some sort of Role-Playing element to them

      Eh? Scrabble, Chess, Checkers, Go, Candyland, Chutes'n'Ladders, Sorry, Othello, Risk, etc., etc.

      These are strategic and/or tactical and/or resource management games (with varying degrees of skill required), and have absolutely nothing to do with any kind of role playing at all.

      Problem solving games (e.g. Mastermind, Clue) are also not role playing, though you could say that there's a "role" to be played in Clue, but that role is a conceit, used to establish the rules, and ignored from there on.

      Now, role playing games are another story. They are free-form, lacking the rigid rule system of a board game, and are built around story-telling. Role playing games are also nearly universally not zero-sum games, which is VERY rare among board games (I'm at a loss to name one, but I'm sure I could if I sat down and thought about it).

    5. Re:Eh???? by ACPosterChild · · Score: 1

      These are strategic and/or tactical and/or resource management games (with varying degrees of skill required), and have absolutely nothing to do with any kind of role playing at all.


      No way! You must be playing them wrong.

      "OK, I'm just a little country-bumpkin peon pawn, I think I'll just shuffle forward a bit". "Out of my way, peasants! No? Fine! I shall leap over your slothy heads and protect you from the corrupt Bishop! (umm, you got my back, right, dude?)"

      See? ;)

    6. Re:Eh???? by dr_canak · · Score: 1

      You can find a nice summary here:

      http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/10640

      I have not played it, but BGG is probably the definitive source for boardgaming on the internet. With a current rank of 75, i'd have to believe there is something very good about the game.

      hth,
      jeff

  15. Couldn't find info on the box. by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does it come with a chainsaw or do we have to bring our own?

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    1. Re:Couldn't find info on the box. by bryll · · Score: 2

      It comes with a picture of one on a little tile. :) However, if you truly want to simulate the effect of a chainsaw (to scale) on the little miniatures, I find a dremel works wonders.

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    2. Re:Couldn't find info on the box. by OmegaBlac · · Score: 1
      Does it come with a chainsaw or do we have to bring our own?
      Don't forget to purchase some duct tape from your local UAC BX.
    3. Re:Couldn't find info on the box. by noidentity · · Score: 1

      No, but it does come with a pair of electric scissors (batteries not included).

    4. Re:Couldn't find info on the box. by AdamTheBastard · · Score: 1

      The game does come with a chainsaw and it has an awesome attack where you take a swing at all opposing creatures occupying surrounding squares.

    5. Re:Couldn't find info on the box. by qyiet · · Score: 1

      In frag you have a chainsaw... oh yeah

  16. Doomonopoly... by ktakki · · Score: 5, Funny

    You just landed on Park Place, which has 2 Hell Knights, a Cyberdemon, 8 Imps, and a hotel. You owe me $1750 and a case of shotgun shells.

    k.

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    1. Re:Doomonopoly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You owe me a new keyboard!

    2. Re:Doomonopoly... by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      I have your shotgun shells right here in my SSG. :)

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    3. Re:Doomonopoly... by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      Well, it couldn't be worse than Cluedo Crusade where a gruesome murder mystery is solved with a little help from Space Marines...

  17. Unfortunately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You will have to upgrade your table in order to play.

  18. Idea! by nahnkari · · Score: 0

    How about Kill BillG board game ?

    1. Re:Idea! by EEBaum · · Score: 1

      This game will not be popular with people named Bill.

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  19. Game comes with... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2 Flashlights
    3 Pistols
    4 Diapers
    1 Gate to Hell

  20. Boardgames are back? by mshurpik · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gee, I always thought the point of Doom was that you didn't need to play boardgames anymore....

    1. Re:Boardgames are back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uncultured heathen, Euro-style boardgames are the pinnacle of culture.

    2. Re:Boardgames are back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm gonna wait for the PC version of the boardgame.

    3. Re:Boardgames are back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee, I always thought the point of Doom was that you didn't need to play boardgames anymore....

      Whippersnapper.

  21. Whatever it was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it is now successfuly slashdotted. way to go

  22. Sounds quite like D&D... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Informative

    I remember a D&D board game. You had the little player figures, dice (Neo: LOTS OF DICE), and the fun part, a Dungeon Master :)

    I don't know, but this sounds like your typical board-playable RPG.

    As an off-topic side note, I also remember the Spy vs Spy board game, we had lots of fun with that one (not that it's related, just a thought)

    1. Re:Sounds quite like D&D... by Haikiba · · Score: 1

      When my friends would play Monopoly, they put the D&D board game right next to it. So, when one ran out of money, they went into the dungeon to get more. Or they died. It took a long while to play, but it was hilarious.

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  23. 123 by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1, Funny
    1) Submit slashvertisement for your product.
    2) Shoot down competitors product.
    3)???
    4)PROFIT!!!

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    1. Re:123 by MustardMan · · Score: 1

      Actually, the shooting down of the competitor's product was done by michael, not the article submitter. Nice try playing on a slashdot cliche' though. What was that slash-meme-of-the-week? "You fail it"?

  24. Not really anything new... by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

    I'm really surprised this is "news"... not only was it released a while ago, it had been rather publically in development for a least a year prior.

    For those wondering, it's made by Fantasy Flight Games, the same company that did the board game based on Warcraft, as well as the CCG and board game based on the A Song of Ice and Fire series of novels by George R.R. Martin.

    It's actually much more accurate to compare it to Space Hulk than Frag. Frag was based on the multi-player aspects of FPSes, while Doom is based on the single-player element (although you work on a team with other Marines in this version).

  25. Overclocking... by nxtr · · Score: 1

    >>I thought about overclocking but I'm too afraid I'll fry something.

    The paper will catch fire.

  26. God Mode Help by OmegaBlac · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can someone tell me how I can roll "IDDQD"? These scary imps have surrounded my marine and about to give him 666 scratches of death!

    1. Re:God Mode Help by gnovos · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can someone tell me how I can roll "IDDQD"?

      Get some glue and a note-card and stick the new letters on the outside of the dice. You win!

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    2. Re:God Mode Help by QQoicu2 · · Score: 0

      Just make sure to first write "-goobers" on the outside of the box before you open it...

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  27. D3 Multiplayer by gibs · · Score: 3, Funny

    Clearly this is a direct port of Doom 3 multiplayer to the boardgame platform.

    -Supports 2-4 players
    -Playable for 1-2 hours

    I wonder if they also ported the "absolute shit gameplay" feature aswell?

  28. actully looks more like by albamuth · · Score: 1

    An old Warhammer 40K spin-off, Space Hulk. The board looks damnned similar. I wonder if Doom 3: The Boardgame (dah dah DuuuHHHMMM!!) allows you to put your characters on "overwatch".

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    1. Re:actully looks more like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I wonder if Doom 3: The Boardgame (dah dah DuuuHHHMMM!!) allows you to put your characters on "overwatch".

      Yes, it does. They call it something different, I forget the name. It's all very Space Hulk.

  29. More information on boardgamegeek by Warlock48 · · Score: 5, Informative

    See what real boardgame geeks think of it:
    http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/10640

    Ranked 68th, that's very good!

    1. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by CaptainCheese · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ranked 68th, that's very good!

      I don't trust the rankings there. Boardgamegeek ranks DOOM: The Boardgame higher than Risk ,Monopoly, and even Chess. It also beats Kill Doctor Lucky, which is definitely an award-winning kick-ass game (as well as a Cheap-Ass Game)

      Now I havent played DOOM::TB, but I doubt it's more interesting and holds a better replay value than Chess. I have played Zombies!!! - a seriously flawed game, yet the voters of boardgame geeks still rank it higher than Risk and Monopoly. I suspect theres some vote-rigging going on, much like that which the admins at IMDb are constantly battling.

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    2. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Warlock48 · · Score: 1

      I think it's more likely that you have different tastes from most bbg ...uh... geeks :-)

      bbg is aimed at (and populated by) players of German-style or 'designer' board games. Monopoly and Risk are usually not highly valued in those circles. And Chess are a bit outside, as they're so old.

      I don't agree with everything there (like Memoir'44's high rank), but it mostly fit my tastes.

      Feel free to register and give the scores you want though, the more the merrier!

    3. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by dswensen · · Score: 1

      Speaking as a board game fanatic, I have to say that I find Monopoly too simplistic, Chess rather a different animal than most board games, and Risk, well, I've played too much for it to be interesting anymore, especially when there are more interesting variants on Risk out there now. So I can see how other, newer, more sophisticated games (not DOOM, necessarily) might get rated higher.

      I agree with you about Zombies, which is no fun and should probably be rater lower than it is; however, much as I love Cheapass Games, and I do, Kill Doctor Lucky is junk. I had much more fun with Witch Trial.

    4. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by salmacis2 · · Score: 1

      The reason Risk and Monopoly have such poor ratings is simple. They are pretty crappy games, compared to what is out there these days. Go and play Settlers, Ruerto Rico, Tigris & Euphrates, El Grande, Carcassonne, Age of Steam and the like and then tell me Risk and Monopoly deserve high ratings. Just because you have an affection for Risk because you played it a lot in your youth does not make it a good game. I suspect a lot of gamers, like myself, find chess a bit dull and abstract.

    5. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Mant · · Score: 1

      I never though Monopoly was much good. The fun that does come is from the human interactions and baragin, but halfway though many people start to get board. The endgame is very bad, players get caught in a downward spiral, know they can't win, but it can take ages to resolve. Almost every monoply game I have have played never made it to the end, most people quit.

    6. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by dAzED1 · · Score: 1
      you're right - chess is just a passing fancy. The board game version of Doom3 is here to stay, and definately deserves a higher rating.

      50 years from now, no one will even remember that silly "chess" thing anyway...and every man, woman, and child will have seen someone play Doom3 (computer or board). 100 years from now, "chess" will even be removed from history books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias due to its complete irrelevence.

    7. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Call+me+Ishmael · · Score: 1

      "I don't trust the rankings there. Boardgamegeek ranks DOOM: The Boardgame higher than Risk ,Monopoly, and even Chess." Risk and Monopoly are the Windows of boardgames. Just because you and everyone else plays them doesn't mean they're good. The Chess ranking can be explained as well if you bother to read around on the site.

    8. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Kirth · · Score: 1

      Outranking Risk, Monopoly and Chess really isn't a problem. There are games Like Junta, Robo-Rally or the Settlers of Catan which will beat the crap out of them in terms of fun and intelligent gameplay.

      I'd really be worried if something would be ranking worse than Monopoly or Risk..

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    9. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      Abstract isn't necessarily bad. While I like german/german-style designer games like the ones you listed, there are also some fairly recent abstract games that have gained popularity. Dvonn and other abstract games in that family have earned "Spiel des Jahres" recommendations. Also, there is Abalone (a version of which usually installed with kde as kenolaba).
      But of course, I just talk about these games. I actually play Puerto Rico and Carcassonne like everyone else :-)

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    10. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by dema · · Score: 1

      So because the opinions of people who rate games on that website don't line up with yours, it's "vote-rigging?" Come on now. I agree that Risk, Monopoly, and Chess are probably better games than this, but that doesn't mean I assume anyone who thinks otherwise can't be trusted.

    11. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by NotJeff · · Score: 1

      No, it's just that the people that rate each game are a self-selected set. Not much incentive to go rate a game you don't like. BGG supports all sorts of correlation of your interests with other people, so to decide if you will like Doom better than Monopoly, say, you see which was prefered from among people who like the same things you do.

    12. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chess is a great game, but for many people it just isn't very much "fun". A thought-intensive game can be rewarding, but very unforgiving unless you commit to actually studying the game. Also, it is often difficult for casual players to find an evenly-matched opponent.

      I love Chess, and always will. But it's been a long time since my last game, and don't expect that will change anytime soon. So calm don't be so on edge about the "average person" preferring a game with stronger theme and more luck...

      (Also remember that Go is an exponentially better game anyway!)

    13. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by BrightBlade · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I'm outside the norm, but I have rated every single game I could remember playing. Including Monopoly and Life, although you'd have to pay me to play those again. I see a lot of people rating games they don't like. The incentive is to warn your fellow board game geeks about a particular title, so they don't waste their time or money.

    14. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by McBeth · · Score: 1

      It is apparent from your comment that you aren't familiar with BGG.

      BGG is a site targeted toward the growing movement in boardgaming. In large part, these games are imported from Germany, France, and Italy, and so is often called "German" games, "Euro" games, or even "Designer" games.

      The rating system is based around how much you want to play the game again. New games do have a rating spike as the fan boys that preordered the game rate it, then over time, the ratings settle to the final position. Overall, the BGG community has managed to maintain its integrity fairly well in spite of the spikes of growth that occur around releases of more popular games.

      Euro games are distinguished by tending to have short rule books, 2 hour play times, and a multitude of decsions to be made.

      From that description, it should come as no surprise that Monopoly or Risk don't rate highly (few decisions, long play time respectively). A large community of people there don't like abstract games (they want a game with theme), which explains Chess. In fact, in general, Go is rated very highly (and rightfully so). The ratings are in tune with what the community likes, not age, or general popularity. Which is something you should understand since you participate in another niche community here :)

      As far as Kill Doctor Lucky goes, you can have your opinion, but might I humbly suggest you try some of the games that are rated highly on BGG? You might have a bit of an epiphany on how good board games can be.

    15. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by jalefkowit · · Score: 1
      Now I havent played DOOM::TB, but I doubt it's more interesting and holds a better replay value than Chess.

      Jumping to that conclusion a little quickly, aren't you? I say let's wait a thousand years or so and find out :-)

    16. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Godeke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Board Game Geek is a site with a focus on "German Style" or "Designer" games. The "perfect" design (to this subgroup of gamers) is one that minimizes luck without removing it: a middle ground between the abstract and luck-fest.

      They like fun "bits" (thus Zombies!!! position is high because, hey, glow in the dark zombies) and they dislike "classics" because as a group they are looking for something exciting and new.

      Ask the "average American" about boardgames and they will probably list "Monopoly, Risk and party games".

      Ask the "average BGG member" about boardgames and they will probably list "Settlers, Puerto Rico and [insert oddball game you have little chance of ever playing here]".

      Ask the "average consim (wargame) player" about boardgames and you will get a list of dusty titles with lots of cardboard counters.

      The "vote-rigging" isn't really that: it is a reflection of the type of games that the community formed around. To say it is vote rigging is like saying that the ratings of films in a independent film festival must be rigged because [mega hollywould blockbuster X] didn't win.

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    17. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by CaptainCheese · · Score: 1

      a General reply to the many posters:

      people have said chess and other classics ranks low because they're too abstact. Go is even more abstract, and it ranks 11th. Bridge is 71st and it's not even a board game.

      Others are pointing out that Risk and Monopoly are hardly the best games ever made. This is true, but what other examples should I give that everyone has heard of?

      Yes, I have heard of Puerto Rico and other very highly ranked games.

      And to those who are offended my suggestion that vote-rigging may be occuring I say: you don't know fans and you don't know companies. Fans, even board game fans who should know that breaking the rules ruins it for everyone, can get really offended when something 'unworthy' is ranked higher than something they like. BTW D:TBG has dropped 7 places to 75th since 12 hours ago. OTOH if boardgamegeeks is A Trusted Site, the temptation is there for manufacturers to pump up the scores of it's games, thereby indirectly increasing games sales.(If you can't grasp how that works, I pity you.)

      Also I did not say that vote-rigging WAS going on, I just said I suspect it might be. I do not trust the rankings, but hey - I'm not Buddha, Allah, Vishnu or any other all-powerful deity; make up your own mind.

      Oh, and regarding Zombies!!! - yes, as CaptMonkeyDLuffy points out, it's the interminable uninteresting slog once all the tiles are out that detracts from it.

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    18. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by magnwa · · Score: 1

      Boardgamegeek uses a unique little ranking algorithim that makes it very hard to rig a game. I generally have been perfectly satisified by the recommendations I read there, plus, you can dig deeper into the game and see if you really want it.

      Doom, incredibly.. looks like it could be a good game.

    19. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by mjwills · · Score: 1
      People aren't rating games highly at BGG because they feature in an encyclopedia. They are rating them according to the documented rating system at the site:

      10 - Outstanding. Always want to play and expect this will never change.

      9 - Excellent game. Always want to play it.

      8 - Very good game. I like to play. Probably I'll suggest it and will never turn down a game.

      7 - Good game, usually willing to play.

      6 - Ok game, some fun or challenge at least, will play sporadically if in the right mood.

      5 - Average game, slightly boring, take it or leave it.

      4 - Not so good, it doesn't get me but could be talked into it on occasion.

      3 - Likely won't play this again although could be convinced. Bad.

      2 - Extremely annoying game, won't play this ever again.

      1 - Defies description of a game. You won't catch me dead playing this. Clearly broken.

      While Chess may be a classic (just as Monopoly and Risk may be 'classic') doesn't mean I would play it when I have other games to play (which are more 'fun' for myself and the people I play with). Mind you, a ranking of 212 (score of 7.12) for Chess is not to be scoffed at - obviously alot of people would play it...

      As an aside - if you haven't played any of the games in the BGG Top 20 you really should give them a whirl. Settlers of Catan is a simple place to start, then maybe look into Puerto Rico or El Grande.

    20. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by Dracil · · Score: 1

      I think you have to realize as well that the rating on BGG is not based on how good a game is. It's based on how likely someone is to play the game. Here's the guideline breakdown.

      10: Outstanding. Always want to play and expect this will never change 9: Excellent game. Always want to play it. 8: Very good game. I like to play. Probably I'll suggest it and will never turn down a game. 7: Good game, usually willing to play. 6: Ok game, some fun or challenge at least, will play sporadically if in the right mood. 5: Average game, slightly boring, take it or leave it. 4: Not so good, it doesn't get me but could be talked into it on occasion. 3: Likely won't play this again although could be convinced. Bad. 2: Extremely annoying game, won't play this ever again. 1: Defies description of a game. You won't catch me dead playing this. Clearly broken.

      What this means is that most people are likely to play a game of Doom if asked, whereas most of them will aren't likely to play Risk, Monopoly, and Chess often and may find it boring.

    21. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by dAzED1 · · Score: 1
      "expect this will never change" is where you lose reason. With chess, this is a reasonable expectation. With almost all of the 211 entries above it...

      Seriously. Picture the world in 50 years. Do you really "expect this will never change" when you really take the "never" into consideration? If that site is somehow still up in some fashion or another in even 10 years...explain to me why over 90% of those 211 above chess will be replaced with completely different games.

      My issue, really, is that people aren't taking into consideration that they are not going to be kids forever. Eventually, their tastes will change. Its not a question about whether young people like XYZ games, or whether *I* would (being young still myself), its a question of why they'd expect this to be the case for any length of time. Not even "never," just...within 50 years perhaps. Do they really expect the rankings to not change in the next 50 years?

      People don't vote honestly. They're just that way.

      I might go check out a new game sometime soon though. I might even use that site to help pick one out. We'll see ;)

    22. Re:More information on boardgamegeek by mjwills · · Score: 1
      Dazed,

      Firstly, you are being nitpicky. You might want to check up the dictionary on what 'expect' means (most people wouldn't assign 100% certainty to an expectation).

      Secondly, the issue you have raised is the reason why many people (including myself at this stage) don't rate many 10s.

      Thirdly, your statement 'With chess, this is a reasonable expectation' is your opinion - obviously you like Chess. I would never rate it as '10 - Outstanding. Always want to play and expect this will never change.' I That doesn't mean I'm an idiot. Or illogical. Or inferior. I just vastly prefer many games over chess (I think I rank chess 5 or 6).

      Fourthly, I suggest if you want a reasonable discussion, don't throw out unsubstantiated statements like 'People don't vote honestly' or 'explain to me why over 90% of those 211 above chess will be replaced with completely different games'. It doesn't add any value to the discussion, and weakens the rest of your post.

      In general, I think you are missing the point of the whole BGG rating system. It is based on people saying what they like playing. A 10 rating is a little odd in that it is considering the possibility of whether you will like the game in future. But it does have a purpose - to distinguish an excellent game that you are playing now from an excellent game that you expect you will keep playing. Can you be sure you will be right in your expectation? No - of course not. But then you can always come back and change your rating to a 9 - so the system self corrects anyway.

      Again, I would suggest giving a couple of the Top 20 a whirl - I expect you will enjoy Settlers of Catan. But I can't be 100% certain. ;-)

  30. What are they thinking?? by cyberfunk2 · · Score: 1

    Not to restate the obvious but... Are they nuts ? How could something like this ever be even remotely profitable ?

    I mean, what's the market ? Probably people who know what DOOM3 is and have played it. Then narrow it down to silly people who for some reason thing board games are as cool or cooler than one of the better FPSes ever created.. wow... pot's getting pretty small, isnt it ?

    1. Re:What are they thinking?? by nsuccorso · · Score: 1

      It will be quite profitable, just like the WarCraft boardgame, the latter of which has already seen one expansion. I won't try to explain why it's good, since you wouldn't understand anyway. The only thing that is obvious is that you don't know what you're talking about.

      Have fun in front of your monitor!

    2. Re:What are they thinking?? by bioglaze · · Score: 1

      It's more social and fun than the computer game. I have been playing it several times in our university's role and strategy game club.

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    3. Re:What are they thinking?? by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      No, board games are huge. The development costs are small compared to computer games, and the market is large. There is little trouble with copying. Also, it's a cultural thing, with board games being a lot more popular some places than others. The game sales in Germany 1996 were at 416 million dollars, I haven't found more recent numbers.

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    4. Re:What are they thinking?? by FooDog · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my favorite GW relabled crap was the $.50 tape measure they had slapped a Games Workshop logo on and wanted $6 for. Man am I glad I kicked my WH40K habit.

  31. BoardGameGeek by Stalky · · Score: 3, Informative

    The place to check this out is the BoardGameGeek Doom: The Boardgame page, which has reviews, scenarios, and other good stuff.

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    Jeff
  32. Darkness... by c0dedude · · Score: 4, Funny

    Commence one hundred "HAR HAR DOOMZ REALLY DARK" jokes now.
    You may see:
    "Yeah, but you can only see 1 space ahead"
    "WTF WE nEed duct taPe"
    or "OMG DICE ATTACK YOU FORM KNOQWERE".
    We get it. Doom's dark. Enough already.

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    Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?
    1. Re:Darkness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?

      It's about making fun of the people who *think* they are the intellectual elite, and call themselves that, but actually aren't.

  33. I want the collectors edition by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Informative
    with metal minifigs, that I can('t) paint!

    yeah, that would be cool,

    ~me walks away from the keyboard for the night, not sure if I'm serious or joking....

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    1. Re:I want the collectors edition by Catnapster · · Score: 1

      Prime them first. Games Workshop has a nice (but exorbitantly expensive, $9-a-can) spray primer available in white or black.

      /me walks away from the keyboard for the night and cries himself to sleep, knowing that no girl would ever go near his geeky ass.

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    2. Re:I want the collectors edition by damiangerous · · Score: 1

      Of all the things to buy from GW, primer is the last thing you should buy (well, okay, after the relabled glue and tools). There are endless sources of inexpensive primer, and if you still feel like you need to drop the cash at least buy something good like Floquil or Tamiya.

  34. hmmm by Saturninus · · Score: 0

    Looks like these guys will stop at nothing to make a quick buck.

  35. I spent New Year's eve playing this... by Denyer · · Score: 5, Informative
    ...yes, I know, I should get out more. We were dog-sitting and drinking as well, though.

    The rules provided in the box aren't always clear, but the game does have a lot of replayability. In fact, playing a mission you haven't played before can be extremely difficult, as it's easy to waste too much time and too many respawns exploring.

    Some people would argue that the ammo system is rather sucky, though. You collect ammo counters and lose them on the basis of the dice, not for every shot you make, so you may get no opportunity to use the bigger weapons with two dice that have chances to miss. This is especially crucial when you consider some monsters can't even be harmed by most weapons. Oh, and the losing armour on respawn really, really sucks, because there's so little of it in most missions, and without it, pretty much everything that attacks you will do damage.

    If you play it much, you'll probably want to establish some tailored rules for your group.

    Other stuff: the miniatures are decent and painting allows you to see the nice amount of detail they have on them; the playing pieces and cards are all heavy enough stock that should last a fair while.

    Give it a try, though!

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    1. Re:I spent New Year's eve playing this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks an awful lot like HeroQuest with the semi-RPG trappings. Any similarities there?

    2. Re:I spent New Year's eve playing this... by spudchucker · · Score: 1

      Up to this post, all posts at my settings have been "Funny"

    3. Re:I spent New Year's eve playing this... by Denyer · · Score: 1
      It's a lot like Space Hulk and that sort of thing, yeah. There's very little RPG element, though... although there are 'encounters' which you'll usually need to go through to pick up keys or get door codes, it's very minimal.

      Most of the entertainment value is in the tactics, so it's more like a tabletop wargame in an enclosed space. Not very enclosed though; it does need a big table surface to lay out a mission.

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    4. Re:I spent New Year's eve playing this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt many people here have played it, to be honest. The overlap between the audiences for PC/console gaming and miniatures games isn't anything like it used to be.

    5. Re:I spent New Year's eve playing this... by hibiki_r · · Score: 1

      The game's publisher, Fantasy Flight Games have just released additional rules that add difficulty levels. From "I'm to young to die" to "Nightmare", you can tailor the game to your players' skill.

  36. Rename it by tepples · · Score: 1

    Now if it were Demonslayers of Catan

    To appeal to the more casual American gamer, they'd have to rename it to "Slayers of Satan" or something.

    1. Re:Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In all likelihood the people people who made "The Settlers of Canaan" or "Ark of the Covenent" would do just that.

  37. And more importantly by bonch · · Score: 1

    How's the deathmatch? Do just players stand up and throw their pieces at each other? Whoever rolls the bigger number scores a hit? Do I hide my piece behind the sofa to "camp?"

    1. Re:And more importantly by MoriaOrc · · Score: 1

      Actually, in the deathmatch its a perfect replica...

      After all, "It is for 2 to 4 players"

    2. Re:And more importantly by AdamTheBastard · · Score: 1

      It doesn't come with DeathMatch rules, only coop. We played a game of last man standing which was kinda interesting. LMS worked much better than the game of CTF, it was slow and boring. I think we might have to try king of the hill at somepoint.

  38. Here comes more! by boingyzain · · Score: 0

    Next up... The computer game based on the groundbreaking DOOM 3 board game based on the groundbreaking DOOM 3 computer game! (Minimum Requirements: Your monthly paycheck and firstborn)

  39. Not again . . . by homeobocks · · Score: 1

    Do you have to turn out the lights to play it?

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  40. ..we'll be right back after the commercials.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What you got this time michael? Oh don't go away just now! We have this brilliant boardgame based on Doom. Yes, you heard it right! Doom! The features are excellent, namely ...

  41. Coming soon... by eremitic · · Score: 1

    The Counter-Strike: Source Boardgame. /rolls dice /draws a card
    "Terrorists win."
    Damn.

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    Warning: Could be fatal if taken seriously
    1. Re:Coming soon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      My turn... My turn !

      /rolls dice
      /draws a card (while secretly looking at the bottom card of the stack)

      "Steam banned your account"

  42. Doom3 on the GBA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    id should port Doom3 to the original GBA. With no backlight and no duct tape on mars the two are a perfect match.

  43. Duke Nukem Forever board game?? by noidentity · · Score: 1

    Maybe if they release Duke Nukem Forever as a board game, they can manage a release within my lifetime.

  44. if it is like the real doom game.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    this are the things that will happen:

    Nobody will talk about it 2 months after release.

    The dice will move VERY slow unless you upgrade your hand with a multi-million dollars bionic one.

    You'll have to play it in a real dark room.

    The game will drop its price dramatically after 3 months of release.

    A half life 2 board game will come out later leaving the old doom game in the dust.

    1. Re:if it is like the real doom game.... by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 4, Funny

      A half life 2 board game will come out later leaving the old doom game in the dust.

      Unfortunately, the Half-Life2 board game can't be played in the same building as a computer running Linux or MacOS, and requires all players to call the publisher to ask for permission before playing. Most slashdot geeks clamor for a boycott against the game, but secretly play it at their friend's houses.

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  45. Reviews and Pictures and MODS at BoardGameGeek by Spock_NPA · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, the boardgame community has been anticipating this title for quite some time. You can find more details, discussions, and mods (yes, mods!) on Doom from the perspective of boardgamers here:

    http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/10640

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  46. Doom Risk by SumDog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember being in the dorms and playing the new version of Risk (Risk 2210) for hours, usually twice a week. I think it would be cool to have a Doom version of Risk. The map could be of Mars with several bases on the map and posssibly even an orbiting station. I can see great potential for such a game.

    -Sumdog

  47. You forgot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You forgot

    "I attack the darkness!"

    1. Re:You forgot... by Clete2 · · Score: 0

      And YOU forgot: "You hit the darkness for 0 points of darkness damage. You hit the darkness for 0 points of darkness damage. You hit the darkness for 0 points of darkness damage. You hit the darkness for 0 points of darkness damage. "

  48. Over priced and late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you look here, http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=12203& mode=thread&order=0, you can see that the game was suppost to be released in October and be $39.95.

  49. Never lose your dice again by Dachannien · · Score: 1

    Doom: The Boardgame - now with the Big Fucking Pop-o-matic Bubble 9000!

  50. Rules by Sheepdot · · Score: 1

    Some unmentioned rules:
    1) The game must be played in the dark.
    2) Fortunately, it provides a flashlight with unlimited battery power.
    3) Unfortunately, you cannot equip yourself with the flashlight while rolling the dice.
    4) Yes, the game's designers *intended* for it to be this way.

  51. Think FRAG isn't any good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Then you've never played it around a table with 4 or 5 other people. Beats computer games any day.

    1. Re:Think FRAG isn't any good? by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 1

      It's -so- good, he had to post as an AC *smirk*

    2. Re:Think FRAG isn't any good? by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 1

      Well, I like playing Frag (more specifically, Frag Deadlands and Frag PVP), and it is a pretty fun game. You just have to be able to enjoy being loud and fast. Spending a lot of time planning your next move just ruins the spirit.

      Earlier versions of Frag weren't as fun, since you had to cut the counter sheet yourself with scissors or a hobby knife. IIRC later printings had perforated counter sheets...

    3. Re:Think FRAG isn't any good? by pdboddy · · Score: 1

      Heh, when it all comes down to it, Frag is a board game that emulates a deathmatch FPS. It relishes in the gore and mayhem that is the epitome of first person shooters. I own Frag and it's expansions, and I like it for what it is, a cheesy, fast-paced board game where you can kill your friends over and over, and no harm done at the end of the day. No need to upgrade to the latest ATI or nVidia required either.

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      Julie Moult is an idiot.
    4. Re:Think FRAG isn't any good? by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 1

      I haven't played "Frag" myself, but I think it's strange that people are posting as AC's, even if they are just expressing their own opinion. Might be me though ;)

  52. Other videogames to boardgames by Dracil · · Score: 1

    Some other videogame to boardgame conversions that exist are Age of Mythology: the Boardgame, Sid Meier's Civilization - The Boardgame, Sid Meier's Pirates!: The Boardgame, and Warcraft - The Boardgame

    Doom: the Boardgame actually has a 7.82 rating (7.52 Bayesian average) at www.boardgamegeek.com, which is actually quite decent (the highest rated game, Puerto Rico, is 8.75 and 8.72 respectively).

  53. Doom Boardgame Review (in Finnish) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finnish gaming site, Peliplaneetta, just posted a review of it today (in Finnish only).

    http://www.peliplaneetta.net/artikkelit/451/

    Basicly, it's good fun.

  54. DoomRL by 404notfound · · Score: 1

    Recently somebody also created a Doom roguelike game.

  55. FFG by Dracil · · Score: 1

    That would be A Game of Thrones + its expansions. The game actually got me into the books. FFG publishes quite a few high-quality component games (read: expensive). They published the War of the Ring game (heaviest game I currently own) and their latest offering is Twilight Imperium 3rd edition, which is even bigger than the War of the Ring box. I think it's something like 12" x 24" and costs $80 ($50+shipping from various online game retailers). They're also renowned for rather nice customer service, like shipping you missing or damaged components for free (although ideally, these shouldn't be problems to begin with).

    1. Re:FFG by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1

      Eagle Games is (or so I've heard) a pretty good games company as well. I'v heard good things about some of their recent products, including Blood Feud in New York an (Organized Crime) Empire Building game, which looks like everything "Gangsters: Organized Crime" could have been if it didn't have the clunky interface (especially in the real-time portions).

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    2. Re:FFG by McBeth · · Score: 1

      They are getting better. They have put out many flawed games with beautiful production quality. They are learning their lessons and doing significantly better each time around. They still aren't an immediate buy for me though (I'm not swayed by good bits)

  56. Cheat codes by gnovos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cheat codes:

    GOD MODE: "roll" dice by placing them down carefully on the number you want

    KILL ALL MONSTERS: Place your hand firmly on your playing pice. With the other hand grasp the playing board with your other hand and shake vigorously.

    UNLIMITED AMMO: Point behind the other players and say in a loud voice, "Hey, what the heck is THAT over there!?!?!" When other player look away to see what you are looking at, grab all unused game tokens.

    CHANGE LEVELS: With a broad sweep of your arm, clean the board. Then set up again in the configuration of the level you want to play.

    EASTER EGGS: IDDQD, many easter eggs will become hidden in your house. (This only works on Easter morning)

    They've already come out with a see-through-walls hack too, in fact, it looks like it's pre-built into the game...

    --
    "Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
  57. It couldn't be based on Doom 3 unless....... by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    There are at least 10x more imps than any other piece.......

  58. Check it out by anon*127.0.0.1 · · Score: 1

    One notes that Doom, The Board Game, costs $54.95. At this point, Doom, The Video Game, is cheaper.

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    I am NOT a man!
    I am a free number!
    1. Re:Check it out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then again, you don't need a $3000 computer system to play the board game...

    2. Re:Check it out by anon*127.0.0.1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      But you do need a friend.

      --
      I am NOT a man!
      I am a free number!
    3. Re:Check it out by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1

      However, the hardware requirements for the board game are lower.

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  59. I've actually tried it. by scoopr · · Score: 3, Interesting
    A friend of mine actually bought it. So far we've only playd it once. It was actually rather good boardgame, infact I enjoyed it more than the actual computer game, but the one level we played took some four hours to play, which I think is rather too involving.. Granted it might of been the first-time hassle that prolonged the session. I recommend boardgame fanatics to try it out, just remember to reserve a good full sunday afternoon for it :)

    PS. You can actually see something in this game!

    1. Re:I've actually tried it. by bioglaze · · Score: 1

      After several games it still lasts 3 hours a game with 3 players + invader, but we're not in hurry.

      --
      Who is John Galt?
  60. PacMan board game by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

    This is nothing compared to the brilliance of the Milton Bradley (tm) Pac-man Board Game!

    1-4 players have their own coloured pacman as they attempt to eat as many dots out of the maze as possible. You have two 6-sidewd dice. One roll moves your pacman around the maze. The other roll moves one of the two ghosts around the maze. A player using a ghosts to eat a players results in a trade of pellets with the unlucky player. There are 4 power pellets which act as get-out-of-jail-free cards should you get munched... but you have to get them before everyone else.

    And believe it or not, the board game was quite fun to play back then! (cue lots of swearing when one of your friends makes the ghost eat you)

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    1. Re:PacMan board game by grolschie · · Score: 1

      I used to love that game!!!!

  61. It's a very good game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You are (fortunately) incorrect.

    In Doom (the board game), one player always plays the monsters. So with 2 players, the marine player is "alone".

    Also, when played with 4 players (=3 marines), it really freaks you out when/if you are far away from your own team - for example your team decides to enter a room and when you step in the door suddenly closes cutting you off from your team.

    1. Re:It's a very good game by FinestLittleSpace · · Score: 1

      Maybe you're just a paranoid loon.

      ITS JUST A BOARDGAME!

      *smack*

  62. Alternatively... by lightspawn · · Score: 1

    If you're interested in board games, you could view a list of Games By Rating.

    How many games in the top 100 have you even heard of?

  63. Now I'm really looking forward... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...to get it, and replace all the enemy pieces with POKEMONS!

  64. Hmm what next... by nounderscores · · Score: 2, Funny

    66 minatures including
    2 striders
    3 gunships
    2 attack helicopters
    10 resistance soldiers
    10 combine soldiers
    5 metrocops
    5 elites
    2 combine missile trucks
    2 combine dropships
    1 combine generators
    2 combine energy barriers
    4 civilians
    1 barney
    1 eli vance
    1 vortigaunt
    2 antlions
    1 alex
    1 dog
    1 G-man
    1 spin-the-crowbar decision wheel

    1. Re:Hmm what next... by jbn-o · · Score: 4, Funny

      5 golden rings!
      4 calling birds,
      3 French hens,
      2 turtle doves,
      and a partridge in a pear tree.

      Some assembly required.

    2. Re:Hmm what next... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
      2 turtle doves,
      and a partridge in a pear tree.
      Some assembly required.
      One tube of araldite, to take the parts and bond them?
      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re:Hmm what next... by jaxdahl · · Score: 1

      You forgot Gordon.

    4. Re:Hmm what next... by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

      You forgot Gordon.
      You need to shell out an additional $30 for the expansion set if you want to play him.

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    5. Re:Hmm what next... by Tackhead · · Score: 1
      > 66 minatures including
      > 2 striders
      > 3 gunships
      > [ ... ]
      >1 dog
      > 1 G-man
      > 1 spin-the-crowbar decision wheel

      The spin-the-crowbar decision wheel determines whether or not you'll be allowed to play.

      Oh, and all the squares on the board (and all the cards, and all the markings on the crowbar and wheel) are printed in #000033 dark blue against a #220011 dark maroon background, because we can't have anybody photocopying the game board.

      (If you want to play at a friend's house, we'll FAX you a copy!)

    6. Re:Hmm what next... by mikael · · Score: 1

      Not forgetting:

      1 Offog, which spontaneously disintegrated while in deep space

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  65. yeowch that's perverse by nounderscores · · Score: 1

    Where can I see screenshots!?

  66. Doom2D by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    While this is not a board game, you'll certainly want to take a look at Doom2D (google for it). Too bad, it's semi-legal software (that is, it's pirating pirates: the guys who did it didn't care the slightest about any copyrights), but it's pretty much a must see for any former Doom2 maniac.
    The deathmatch is pretty good as well (hot-seat only).

    --
    The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
  67. No monster closets? by writertype · · Score: 4, Funny
    Based on this picture, I see no monster closets. Ergo, it isn't Doom. Unless the guy playing the baddies can just drop random shit in on top of the player, that is...

    "Okay, I slowly -- SLOWLY -- enter the room. What do I see?"

    "It's dark. There's some blood on the ground."

    "And that's it?"

    "Yes. ROWR!"

    "What? What? I spin around!"

    "There's nothing there. Just a scary noise. Oh, but you see a box of shotgun shells."

    "OK, motherfucker, I know what's going to happen. I sneak up, and JUST AS I GRAB THE SHELLS I spin around!"

    "A closet opens up and an imp pops out!"

    "I shoot the bastard! BLAM1 I rolled a 12! He's dead!"

    "Good job, marine. So what now?"

    "I walk toward the door..."

    "And just as you do so, three Hell Knights teleport in behind you!!"

    "What the..."

    "GRROWR! ROAR! SLASH! BOOM! You're dead."

    "Motherfucker... OK, I hit Alt-tab."

    "What?"

    "You heard me. I navigate to the DOOM directory and hit unistall.exe . You backstabbed me for the last time, bitch."

    1. Re:No monster closets? by hyphz · · Score: 1

      > Unless the guy playing the baddies can just
      > drop random shit in on top of the player, that
      > is...

      Actually, the "Invader" player has Spawn cards which they can play each turn to drop new monsters on the map in any area which the marines don't have line of sight to.

      "You know that corner in the room you just went through, but can't see now because you're partways down the corridor? Well, there was (play) a Mancubus hiding there all along!"

      I've played the game a couple of times now, but the random ammo system does kinda stink, and it's a little bit slow for something based on a fast-pased video game. Oh, and it's very, very hard for the marine players to win. Ever.

  68. waiting for the GURPS worldbook by Bogatyr · · Score: 1

    Probably be short, but what the heck.

    1. Re:waiting for the GURPS worldbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  69. Has anyone noticed... by nmb3000 · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or does the icon for this story (and other FPS games) remind you of something else?

    "One credit card receipt for a Swedish-made..."

    I'm telling you though, baby, it's just an observation based on pictures I've seen. Really!

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  70. Shenanigans by retro128 · · Score: 1

    It's just Monopoly except the first rule says it must be pitch black in the room before you start playing.

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  71. Old news by Lillesvin · · Score: 1

    I saw this board game at my local bookshop here in Aarhus, Denmark in December.

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  72. It is pitch black by dunkelfalke · · Score: 4, Funny

    you are likely to be eaten by a grue

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  73. Spacehulk anyone? by Cougem · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Looks just the same to me

    Very good game though if you've got some free time and you're a games workshop fan

  74. Yup I saw it on the shelf... by skids · · Score: 1

    When I was Christmas Shopping for the D&D freaks in my extended family.

    Though it is now officially the stupidest board game idea I have ever seen, It probably has a better chance of getting good sales than runner-up: "Blood Bowl" http://boardgames.about.com/cs/bloodbowl/ ...because people will want the figurines.

    1. Re:Yup I saw it on the shelf... by OP_Boot · · Score: 2

      What?br>
      Blood Bowl is superb. It's quick, fun, stupid and violent.

      Chaos League whoud have been shot at birth (yeah - I bought it), but Blood Bowl is an absolute classic.

      I humbly submit that you haven't got the faintest idea what you're talking about.

    2. Re:Yup I saw it on the shelf... by bjorky · · Score: 1

      When I was Christmas Shopping for the D&D freaks in my extended family.

      Though it is now officially the stupidest board game idea I have ever seen, It probably has a better chance of getting good sales than runner-up: "Blood Bowl" http://boardgames.about.com/cs/bloodbowl/ ...because people will want the figurines.


      Actually, from what I understand it's a much better game than you imagine. Board games based on video games have come a long, long way from the PacMan & Centipede adaptations that were sub-par recreations of the video gaming experience.

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    3. Re:Yup I saw it on the shelf... by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      Bloodbowl has been around for a while now. It is actually pretty fun.

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      Just a Tuna in the Sea of Life
    4. Re:Yup I saw it on the shelf... by macrom · · Score: 1

      a long, long way from the PacMan & Centipede adaptations

      Wow, the Pac Man with the plastic chompers that were supposed to eat the white marbles! If you bothered to properly chomp your Pac Man then half of the marbles vibrated off the board. A piece of crap that shipped simply to cash in on the name.

      I had totally forgotten about owning that as a child. Thanks for the memory jog!

  75. Kick Ass! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Someone port it to the PC!

  76. Sid Meier's Pirates! also has a boardgame by iamvego · · Score: 0

    I remember that ages ago, it was announced that a board game was also to be created for Sid Meier's Pirates!. I've just noticed it's been out a short while now. I might buy myself a set. :)

  77. Collect one "Hell Card" by miaDWZ · · Score: 1
    User rolls dice.... It's a three!

    oooohhh... It's a "Hell Card" space - collect a card from the pile and see what thrills are ready and waiting for you!

    Your beta video drivers fail and a BSOD comes across the screen! Move back 5 places to your last save point
  78. Sarcasm intended. by teknokracy · · Score: 1

    Plays best on nVidia(R).

  79. Pros and Cons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pros:

    • Constant FPS in all environments and on all platforms (tables, desks, floors, ...)
    • You don't have to wait for the intro to finish
    • Once word gets out people will pity you and donate money so you can buy a computer
    Cons:
    • Can't take advantage of my latest Radeon GPU
    • No music or sound effects
    • Monsters too small to scare even 3 year olds
    • Susceptible to damage by fire, physical force, theft
    • Requires reading skills, you have to read the intro
    • Is something to be ashamed to admit to have played in public
    • Once word gets out people will fear your D&D sociopathic ass and you will never find a girlfriend, at least not one you can introduce to your parents

    I think I'll give it a try...

  80. x by teknokracy · · Score: 1

    Duke Nukem Forever boardgame due out soon too... yep... any day now....

  81. Anyone remembers Hero Quest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This boardgame seems to look and work like Hero Quest, which we played for years.

  82. For the health conscious Geek! by Master_T · · Score: 1, Funny
    HEY KIDS!

    Take a break from those tiring video games with a nice boardgame to help you fight the fatigue. Doom 3: the Boardgame will give you hours and hours of zombie spankin' joy without those pesky computers!

    AND!

    Coming soon: Linux the board game!

    Spend those hours while linux installs with your friends. Be an open source Tycoon. Use every Curse word in the slang dictionary when Redhat doesn't start. eat chips and code all day. And of Course, Look down on all those silly, silly windows users. By Milton Bradley.

  83. All I want to know is can I still by Alci12 · · Score: 1

    strafe jump

  84. From experts' mouth, this IS a good game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is where some *real* info :
    http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/10640

  85. Doom - The RogueLike by 68k+geek · · Score: 1

    There is also a Doom RogueLike: http://http//chaos.magma-net.pl/doom/

  86. Spacehulk was good! by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    I was wondering either,

    A) When they were going to get sued either by id, or by the Aliens franchise holders.

    B) When either id or the Aliens franchise holders would get around to ripping off and re-publishing the same game without giving royalties.

    It might have been the friends I was with, or it might have been the vibe in the room at the time, but Spacehulk was easily one of the most entertaining board games I've ever played. And the fact that everybody could play co-operatively against a common alien threat put it right over the top with me. --I have a hard time enjoying games which pit friends against friends. I find such things make for unhappy energy in the room. The people I compete with in life are called "Enemies", and I do not eat pizza and watch movies with them.


    -FL

  87. Dremel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    However, if you truly want to simulate the effect of a chainsaw (to scale) on the little miniatures, I find a dremel works wonders.

    Sod that, I'm not buying the Doom 3 computer game until they update it to include an actual Dremel. With little interchangable heads.

  88. Yes, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when are they going to bring out a computer simulated version so I can play it on the network! ;-)

  89. Anyone notice . . . by The+Llama+King · · Score: 1

    . . . that the price of the board game is the same as that of the PC version? $54.95.

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  90. Pardon? by Sierpinski · · Score: 1

    What's a 'Board Game?'

    My parents talked about something called 'Monopoly' many years back, and they used to play it after they parked their horse and buggy...

    1. Re:Pardon? by mjwills · · Score: 1
      In the world of board games there are crap games, just as there are in computer games.

      If your frame of reference is Monopoly (which sells well, but is not a favourite of the majority of the 'gamer crowd') you probably should play something else - http://www.boardgamegeek.com/top50.htm/ will give you some ideas...

  91. U-G-L-Y by IdJit · · Score: 2, Informative

    Those have got to be the UGliest pieces I've seen in a game in a while. The actual sculpturing of the figures might be okay, but those colors...OMG!

    I'd gladly pay a little more for figures that were painted to look a bit more like their digital counterparts.

    1. Re:U-G-L-Y by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 1

      You'd pay a lot more. Even if the pieces are painted by near-slaves in China, you'd probably pay $.50 more per piece and they'd still look like hell. But it would have been nice if they'd been molded in a more subdued palette, I agree.

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  92. BFG - Game Stopper by crazdgamer · · Score: 1

    "Looks like a rolled for a BFG 9000... I hit an Imp, so I kill everything and I win again!" Sounds like fun.

  93. Price! by Chewy100 · · Score: 1

    Did anyone notice that it costs freaking $55. I could buy Doom 3 for that.

  94. Finally, Doom with true unified lighting! by GatesGhost · · Score: 1

    all the shadows cast on the board will be totally realistic! and you can totally play lag free multiplayer!

  95. 55$? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's as much as the software version of the game.

    I can understand the Software costing that much due to the enormous ammount of man hours involved in the engine creation, and everything else.

    But 55$ for this piece of shit? That is just insulting!

  96. "Video" Game with Pencil and Paper by BinBoy · · Score: 1

    Back in the ancient days when football players looked like individual red dots, a friend and I played a videogame in school with pencil and paper.

    Draw a river horizontally across a sheet of paper. Draw a bridge on the left and right sides. Each player draws a tank on his side. Take turns moving or shooting.

    To move or shoot, put the point of your pencil on your tank, hold the pencil in place with your index finger on the eraser. Press down until the tip slips and draws line. Where the line ends is where your new position is or where your shell landed.

    1. Re:"Video" Game with Pencil and Paper by category_five · · Score: 1

      Press down hard enough and the graphite tip will break and lodge in your friend's eye. This is called a "fatality" and instantly wins the game.

  97. ..might work? NOT! by gandy909 · · Score: 1

    $54.95 for a lousy BOARD GAME? You gotta be kiddin! You can blow 3 hours on Monopoly for under $15 any day of the week. Ya, moms from all over are gonna run right out and grab that one for little Timmy lickety-split...

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  98. Doom : The Boardgame : The Computer Version! by johnjay · · Score: 1

    Coming soon, a skillful rendition of the award-winning Doom : The Boardgame, specifically designed for your PC!
    - Stop worrying about losing plastic monster pieces or rolling dice under the sofa. Doom : The Boardgame : The Computer Version takes care of all that for you!
    -Never worry about running out of table space for maps again; D:TB:TCV comes complete with many custom-designed maps specifically engineered for optimal entertainment.
    -In addition, new "single player" feature allows you to play Doom : The Boardgame : The Computer Version against the computer, so you can still play even when your friends are unavailable or nonexistant!

    As you can expect, a computer game is a bit more expensive than an old cardboard-and-plastic board game. However, by outsourcing to India, we've managed to keep the price as low as possible. Only twice the price of the board game: $120!

    Download the game from here: Doom : The Boardgame : The Computer Version
    We will be sending you a bill as soon as we clear up a few issues with our legal department.

  99. I've played it by Christianfreak · · Score: 1

    Friend of mine picked it up not too long ago, its pretty cool really, though its not like most board games. The marines work together and, at least according to my friend, the demons are "supposed to lose".

    Of course he said this after I played the demons and kicked marine butt all over the map in the first level ... but that's beside the point.

  100. Is it me... by AntiChris · · Score: 1

    or does it seem strange to anyone else that the boardgame is more expensive than the computer game?

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    1. Re:Is it me... by CaptMonkeyDLuffy · · Score: 1

      Doesn't seem strange to me for a few reasons:

      Reproduction costs for even the simplest boardgames generally far exceed that of a computer game(and this is a hefty game with a lot of miniatures which increase the price significantly, I forgot the exact weight but it's a record breaker due to the size and heft and number of components... all of which cost money to produce).

      Market is much smaller for boardgames relative to computer games in general.

      Even within the boardgame market, this is only going to target a subset of it(while there are individuals who overlap, most people fall in either the video game or the board game camp, video gamers won't buy a board game just for the product tie in, it is not uncommon for board gamers to have an anti-video game bias, and even amongst the remaining portion of board gamers, the Doom game falls in a genre/niche that isn't the most popular within that hobby from what I've seen).

      So, looking at the facts it makes sense(initial design costs may be less, but reproduction costs are significantly higher, plus you've got to take into account the size of the target audience...) Assuming it's not a bad game(I'll wager it probably isn't from the reviews I've heard in boardgaming circles, though there's certainly a healthy room for varying tastes), it's not a bad deal if you look at it in a time amused/cash spent entertainment value type equation... though definitely something you should see if you can manage to try before you buy.

  101. But does it have Multiplayer Coop? by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

    Doom was one of the greatest coop games ever created. Why they left it out of the D3 PC version is beyond me.

    Hopefully, they didn't make the same mistake for the board game!

    1. Re:But does it have Multiplayer Coop? by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      Did you even BOTHER to read the site? 2-4 players, one controlling the baddies, the rest are marines.

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  102. Expense of board games by SeanDuggan · · Score: 2, Informative
    Or, for that matter, try out the games from Cheapass Games. Honestly, do you need another set of plastic pawns and dice for your game? Admittedly, for games like this Doom game, I'm sure the figurines is half the fun, but the average geek probably still has tons of lead miniatures that would provide sufficient demons for this usage.

    That said, is anyone else reminded of the Day of the Dead boardgame? (link can't be checked, at work and the filters don't allow anything with "game" in it. Alt link or use Google to find it yourself)

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    1. Re:Expense of board games by CaptMonkeyDLuffy · · Score: 1

      Cheapass Games really only targets one genre/aspect of the entire boardgaming spectrum, however. They produce light games(I'd argue 'very light' games, but different people have different scales). By that I mean that the amount of strategy and/or tactics invovled in decision making is minimal. There tends to be a very high 'random' factor(lots of dice rolling for outcomes, with minimal methods to mitigate or control that outcome).

      Outside of the fact that Cheapass Games target a very narrow portion of the entirety of board gaming, there's the fact that(at least in my opinion, and also in the opinion of a lot of people I've talked with on the subject), they are very much hit or miss. They've put out some good games, but they've put out a lot of not so good games as well... On the positive side, even buying a stinker from them doesn't put you back too much at least.

      Finally, on the counters/tokens/miniatures etc issue: There are games where a bag of generic multicolored pawns, some tokens and a handfull of d6 will take care of everything you can need. However, there are games where there's a lot more to distinguish between than simply 'who's pawn is that.' If each player controls multiple units, and those units have differences between them and must be unique... well, you'll run out of easily distinguished pawn colors or what not rather quickly. So, you either need to go the cardboard/cardstock token or the figure route. Both have there distinct advantages and disadvantages... (price, durability, ease of recognition on the game board, ability to contain information on them).

  103. There's also Warcraft and Civilization by Paralizer · · Score: 1

    There is also a Warcraft III board game and a Civilization one, both based on their predecessor computer versions.

    1. Re:There's also Warcraft and Civilization by mjwills · · Score: 1

      I would probably read the reviews at http://www.boardgamegeek.com/ before buying either of them...

  104. Magic the Gathering + Heroquest = Doom Boardgame by honkeytron · · Score: 1

    I laughed when I saw the headline, but after thinking about it, I believe this think has the potential to take off (Not that well, but still could prove to be a success for the manufacturer).

    After looking at the link provided by Warlock48 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/10640), it looks like they are taking the base elements of Magic the Gathering (playable cards leading to in-game results), and packaging them into a Heroquest-like environment (D&D-type miniature play). This looks like it's a prime example of how recycling ideas can make money......

    I do feel sorry for the company that's putting this out, however. Most of the target market for this will simply play it on the computer......however I can see a bunch of pimple-faced teenagers having 'Doom' parties. The joke'll get changed from 'I'm gonna cast......MAGIC MISSILE!' to 'If there are any girls on Mars, I WANNA DO 'EM!'.

  105. Space Hulk by DJ+Haruko · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or does this game resemble the old Space Hulk board game? The board layout and pieces look awfully familiar.

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  106. More worthy games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like GW's SpaceHulk.

    I'd suggest either D&D Miniatures or Star Wars Miniatures as good mini games (Star Wars is faste r to play)

    D&D Miniatures
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/minis
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mi/200405 20b

    Star Wars Miniatures
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=swminis
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=swminis/artic le/whatare
    Rules - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=swminis/artic le/faq

    The best part of Star Wars is beating someone with an Ewok.

    The board game looks quite like Game Workshop's SpaceHulk:
    http://www.gamenight.com/html/Games/space_hulk.htm

  107. Sounds like Space Crusade by Ratcrow · · Score: 2, Informative

    After looking over the link and reading the comments here, it sounds a lot like the old game Space Crusade (link goes to first hit on Google).

    In both games, up to three players control marines searching through a map, with another player (controlling the nasties) able to drop new things in places the players can't see.

    Space Crusade was fun, but fiendishly hard for the marines...which is where I think they got the idea :)

  108. Zombies by Nimey · · Score: 1

    Why do you think Zombies is seriously flawed?

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    1. Re:Zombies by CaptMonkeyDLuffy · · Score: 1

      Well, as someone who doesn't hate it(but doesn't love it either), I saw two problems with it. The first more of a personal taste quibble, the second comes closer to being a flaw.

      First, the game runs a little too long for what it is. Yes you get pretty zombie pieces, but the game isn't heavy on the 'immersive theme' aspect, and at the same time it's not particularly deep. If it really sucked me an as an immersive experience, or if it kept me mentally stimulated with tough choices then the amount of time it took would have been fine, but as it was too light for how long it takes to play.

      Second, and this definitely borders on couting in the 'flaw' category: The helipad endgame goal has major issues. Character in the center of the helipad when there are no zombies in the helipad wins. So, you get in a stalemate situation where no one wants to kill the next to last(or last, depending on positions) zombie because it will allow the next person to win. Frankly, I probably would have been more forgiving of the gameplay length if it hadn't been for the 'inherent stalemate encouraging' endgame...

    2. Re:Zombies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We always got around the stalemate bit by letting the players damage each other.

    3. Re:Zombies by CaptMonkeyDLuffy · · Score: 1

      That would fix that issue... We got around it by a 'mutual victory.' I wasn't the one reading the rules, so this may have been contradicted by the phrasing of the rules, but we allowed any and all players in the center square of the helipad when the last zombie on the helipad is killed win. Thus, we wound up with three out of five on that tile, with a zombie moved onto us and killed before the other two players got a chance to move it off.
      If I ever play again, I'll remember that beating on each other could work.

  109. Played Doom board game... a mini-review... by Yekrats · · Score: 2, Informative

    I played the Doom boardgame a couple of weekends ago and although I was a fan of the video game, I really didn't care for the board game version. We played a game with 3 Marines against the evil baddies, and here's a microreview of the game.

    The first thing I noticed was the game had approximately a metric buttload of figurines, dice, cards, and widgets. Heck, I think there are even some out-of-state fireworks and dancing girls in the box. So, if you're into games with lotsa bits, Doom has some serious heft to it.

    With those bits comes a lot of dice-rolling. Each weapon has an array of dice to be thrown, each with varying damages, ranges, and ammo-usage. We found ammo to be extremely scarce. Each player starts out with a small amount of ammo, and it tends to run out quickly -- at least one out of every three attacks. Due to some bad die rolls, our "sharpshooter" marine was constantly running out of ammo, and had to often resort to the classic "fist" attack. (Which, strangely enough, seems to be more effective than the pistol.)

    The line-of-sight rules combined with Evil's spawning rules seemed a little out-of-line. Evil was able to use a constant supply of cards in his hand to spawn new bad guys (which is a departure from the video game). Evil could spawn anywhere he could put a critter out of our "line-of-sight". Unfortunately, even one or two little critters could block line of sight for a big critter. When we finally started working carefully to cover every corner, being careful of line-of-sight, Evil played a "Darkness" card which allowed new baddies to spawn. Twice. This was all great fun for the Evil player, but irritating and frustrating for the players. (In the original game, a player could "clear out" an area and use it as a safe zone. Nothing doing in the board game.)

    The game allows 6 respawns of the players before the evil player wins. Which is a good thing -- us players had lost 3 lives before we got out of the first room. The game also took a long time to play. We played for nearly 3 hours before we gave up the ghost, but none of the players except for Evil seemed to have a good time.

    Earlier the same day, we played the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" game, which is along the same lines as Doom. A similar theme, a similar style of play (one player versus the rest), but Buffy seemed much better for some reason. Buffy kept things simple, which Doom bogged down with the details.

    I'm not really looking forward to playing the Doom boardgame again, but I'll probably give it another shot to see if there was something that I missed. Although it had lovely pieces, I think the gameplay was a lot of dice-rolling for three hours, with the odds stacked frustratingly against the Marines to the point of being "not fun." Maybe the dice were just not with us. If you like the pretty bits, and like slapping a bunch of dice and figures around the table, then you might want to check this out.

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    1. Re:Played Doom board game... a mini-review... by Denyer · · Score: 2, Informative
      if you're into games with lotsa bits, Doom has some serious heft to it.

      Yeah, it's reasonable value when you look at the price of other boardgames and what you get for the cash.

      Maybe the dice were just not with us.

      I think an "every X shots you lose an ammo token" rule would be a better way of handling things.

      Buffy kept things simple, which Doom bogged down with the details.

      Plays a lot quicker once people are familiar with the setup. And yep, the Evil player has a decided advantage if they're sharp enough to use all of their options. It's probably best if everyone gets a turn being the Evil.

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  110. I said the idea was stupid... by skids · · Score: 1


    Not the end product.

    Things based on stupid ideas come out good in the end all the time.

  111. obligatory by xmp_phrack · · Score: 1

    is this available for Linux yet?

  112. Trans-dimensional Thermonuclear RISK! by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

    Start with 3 or more RISK boards. Add the rule that you can exchange 20 armies for 1 nuke (can clear any adjoining country) and have movement to either adjoining countries or to the same country on another board. It helps if you picture in your head, the boards stacked over each other. One game took over 30 hours to play. I lost.

    Now that there are RISK variants out there, it could get really interesting on how different types of armies would interact.

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  113. Question: by sharkey · · Score: 1

    Does it have the Bio Force Gun and humans mutated into zombies by a virus so that it adheres to the "spirit" of the DOOM games?

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  114. They already have cheaters in the game! by boingyzain · · Score: 0

    I was playing it the other day, and my friend accused me of aimbotting and wallhacking!

  115. Why would they include duct tape? by GunFodder · · Score: 1

    It wasn't in the original game.

    1. Re:Why would they include duct tape? by CDOS_CDOS+run · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes I have a mod to this board game. It's the Doom3 boardgame mod. I will sell you a piece of ducttape to tape your flashlight to your gun for only $19.95!! Act now and I will throw in a piece for your friend too!! That's a $39.90 value for just $19.95!!!

  116. Wow! by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    I can't wait until someone makes a COMPUTER SIMULATION of this game!

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  117. Polygons not the point by GunFodder · · Score: 1

    The polygons in Doom3 are the most ordinary aspect of the graphics. The lighting model and the use of dynamic textures are both revolutionary.

    The lighting models in other PC games tend to use a variety of more visible hacks. Only some objects have shadows, and those shadows are highly pixelated. And a lot of light comes from unknown sources. Doom3 has a consistent, top-quality lighting model that makes things look more real.

    The dynamic textures I am thinking of are the control panels and video displays scattered all over Mars base. You never have to break out of the main interface to interact with the base controls. It doesn't seem like much unless you've played other games where the various controls are in a separate interface or don't look real.

    The processing power is only excessive if you have older hardware. Otherwise it's nice to finally play a game that takes advantage of modern processing capabilities.

  118. Boardgamegeek by porter235 · · Score: 1

    Doom's boardgamegeek.com entry shows the following stats:

    Number of Views:
    74585

    Number of Ratings:
    190

    Average Rating:
    7.79

    Bayesian Average Rating:
    7.52

    Overall Rank:
    75

    Standard Deviation:
    1.67

    It has made the top 100 already, looks promising.

  119. girlfriends by vex24 · · Score: 1

    Wow, so now we've combined the blood and guts that our girlfriends hate with the board-game format they're always trying to force us to play at casual get-togethers. Wonderful!

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  120. Own and Play Both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got both games and have played both of them. Frag has four pages total of rules. It's fast paced and easy to pickup and play.

    Doom has two rule sets. They total around fifty or sixty pages. The player controlling the demons is working as the DM and reads the room descriptions. He also has to place the tiles. It takes a while to learn the rules, sort all of the pieces and run the game. Doom is more like a dungeon crawl with miniatures and is not a game that you can just pick up and play in a few minutes.

    Both games are fun though.

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  121. As someone who has actually played it... by dnadig · · Score: 1

    It's substantially better than Doom 3 the video game. Maybe not as much eye candy, but vastly better gameplay. Kevin Wilson, the designer, is SOLID - he did Game of Thrones - the best wargame in years.

    Gameplay is extremely good, and features a pretty innovative dice mechanism and a fair amount of roll playing flair. I played with several folks this weekend who wouldn't touch the videogame, and they were all pretty impressed.

    It bogs a little with 4 players, but 2-3 it is truly an excellent game, and one you will be playing long after Doom3 is gathering dust.

  122. OT: Sig by PCM2 · · Score: 1
    Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Gates R'chmd wgah'nagl fhtagn.

    I think you mean "R'dmd," not "R'chmd."
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  123. According to the FAQ by Aexia · · Score: 1

    Evil could spawn anywhere he could put a critter out of our "line-of-sight". Unfortunately, even one or two little critters could block line of sight for a big critter.

    From the rulebook, "Exception: For purposes of spawning new invaders, other invader figures do not block a marine's line of sight."

    So that may be the source of some of your problems.

    1. Re:According to the FAQ by Yekrats · · Score: 1

      Thanks! That's a big help! It wasn't my game, so we were taught by the owner, and I think it was his first time playing, too. After the first room, we started to accumulate a big pipeline of critters to bash through. As soon as we hacked a couple of layers, more showed up behind.

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  124. First line in the rule book... by Skrybe · · Score: 1

    "Before starting play please ensure you have a flashlight handy and turn out all lights. All 'to hit' dice rolls are to be made in the dark."

    And on the back of the box, "Duct tape not included".

  125. Re:Cheat codes [winhat] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me tell you a secret. I have absolutely no idea what you're blathering on about!

    I have absolutely no idea what you're typing, i would arrive at a pathetically small number.

    Socrates was a chinese actor and expert in kung fu who popularised the martial arts in the hand is worth two in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    A bard was a great voice out of the cheap motor car.

    The arm is a living organism which does not want to play.

    A house is a house licensed for the real issues, slashdot, and retain your credibility in the face of danger". Oops. Wrong one. "Do it yourself". Thats it.

    A bayonet is a small portable musical instrument with a stick.

  126. Mods by ButtNutt · · Score: 0

    I cant wait for the SDK for this. Now is my chance to come out with a really cool mod like making cyberdemon into GW. When is the Halflife board game coming out? -got nuthin :)

  127. That's not funny! by Cybrex · · Score: 1

    My family was eaten by a grue! It was the worst moment of my childhood- almost as bad as all of the random strangers that kept breaking into our house through the kitchen window and eating my lunch!

    -Cybrex

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    1. Re:That's not funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No. The correct usage is...

      My family was eaten by a grue you insensitive clod!

      Have a nice day, and thank you for shopping the korean owned slashdot phrase store in soviet russia. Please come again.

  128. Space Hulk 2005? by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 1

    This looks suspiciously like the old Games Workshop game Space Hulk. Which might not be a bad thing, since Space Hulk was a blast to play and has been out of print for years.

  129. So, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where do we find the Doom: The Boardgame done quick video?