Because idiot parents will buy this for their 10 year old, and they will promptly "attitude adjust" a girl in their class.
The amount of children that view/play violent media is likely staggeringly high. How many of them are actually insane enough actually imitate the violence and try it on others? Most of them know that it's fiction. Most of them know that they do not wish to hurt others simply because they saw it done in a work of fiction. The most any studies have been able to 'prove' is that violent media can be linked to temporary violent thoughts that almost never amount to anything (not even in children). If some abysmally small minority of people who are 'insane' (and if they are children, have terrible parents who censor everything instead of educating them about the difference between fiction and reality) imitate violence they see in violent media, then that is too bad. Those few shouldn't be able to ruin it for everyone else (children or not).
Really? I would. In order for these ten year olds to believe that a game is actually reality, they would likely have to be already insane and would have to have terrible parents who do nothing but censor everything instead of educating them about things. Really, the chances of someone (even a child) believing this game is reality are slim to none, I believe. The chances of this actually hurting someone are likely even slimmer. The temporary violent thoughts that some studies correlated to violent media almost never amount to anything.
I'd say it's suitable for anything unless the person is insane and/or has terrible parents.
You can be passionate about something and still be paid well for doing it, and in fact, that's exactly how a lot of great scientific and artistic works are created.
Yes, but typically, someone who is doing it just for the money and has no passion for it probably won't do anything amazing.
You mean like every single job in existence that doesn't rely on certain physical traits? Yes, people can learn. Shocking. It's just too bad that many of them don't have the mindset that allows for that.
"Terrorism," "piracy," and "think of the children" are excuses that the average person just seems to accept.
"There was a terrorist attack!? Maybe you should take away some of our rights that we claim we are better for having so that we can have a false sense of security! That couldn't ever be abused by a corrupt government! Humans can't ever make mistakes when they are given unchecked powers!"
"Oh, you implemented this strict and annoying DRM scheme because of pirates? It's all their fault even though you're the one who implemented it and it's completely ineffective against them! Take all of the features in your product away to 'battle' hypothetical pirates!"
"A child could get hurt, but probably won't!? You better ban that product/practice immediately! Banning something to 'save' an extremely small portion of the population is a completely intelligent decision!"
If it benefits you, let the corruption continue? I can see why many people would want to do that, but it doesn't sound all that appealing to people who aren't in that sort of situation...
Words are petty. They are nothing in the grand scheme of things. You'll be dead, and so will everyone else. Their opinion can only affect you if you let their opinion affect you, and in cases where they are just trying to insult you, letting it affect you is counterproductive.
Language is not irrelevant.
We ourselves are irrelevant and useless. Such things are only important to us (most of us).
and to suggest that you are unaffected by it is to be disingenuous in the extreme.
What do you mean? It becomes easy once you realize how pointless everything is and how equally pointless getting offended by mere words is. I just don't care.
If we are to have meaningful relationships with other members of our species, then we must of necessity allow ourselves to be "hurt by words".
I fail to see why you must be hurt by mere words in order to have "meaningful" (if someone actually wants that) relationships. If someone is merely trying to insult you and is speaking illogically, what good would that do? It would hurt emotionally and distract you, wasting your time.
I don't know, but there seem to be quite a few teachers who go about their job the wrong way. They're extremely short tempered and take offense to nearly everything (even given their situation, this is not appropriate), act like a dictator in their own classrooms (such as censoring speech that opposes their own political views even when the students are allowed to speak), treat their students like garbage (constantly yell and throw out anyone who merely questions or corrects them), and fail to make the class even the slightest bit interesting (it doesn't have to be constantly interesting, but the boring way they teach doesn't help in the slightest). Some of them (typically teachers who teach in electives but have never even been trained in the subject before) don't even know what they are talking about. Although, that is more rare. It also doesn't help that students (even ones in high school) are forced to take subjects that they likely won't even need for their profession just because they might use it.
They may like teaching, but many of them (that I've seen) don't appear to be good at it. If you don't have patience, you really, really shouldn't be a teacher.
Tower? That is a poor assumption, but I believe myself to be speaking logically. Do you need to be hurt by words? Is it not you that lets yourself be hurt by words? Is it not counterproductive and illogical to let yourself be hurt by such petty things?
Okay, I guess we should just continue to let gay people be marginalized and downtrodden.
If it's only by speech, then yes. There's such a thing as "freedom of speech," you know. That doesn't mean "speech that I approve of." It means "freedom of speech."
So they consistently identify as hating their lives due to society's opinions of them.
This is why I always say that people need to get rid of illogical emotions such as anger or sadness, especially in situations such as these. Who cares if someone doesn't like you or approve of what you do for illogical reasons? If you see nothing wrong, then there is likely no problem. Analyze what they say logically, not emotionally, and if it doesn't make logical sense, dismiss it and cease caring. They are just words. They are nothing else. You are only hurt because you let yourself be hurt, and letting yourself be hurt by something so petty is illogical and counterproductive. If they kill themselves over it, it is their own fault.
I'm guessing that most of society fails to obtain this mindset. It is a shame, really. They waste their time worrying about pointless words whilst claiming that humans are an intelligent species.
By that reasoning it is perfectly acceptable to be a pedophile, murderer, rapist, alcoholic, or any other sort of degenerate just because it is who you are deep inside.
And people who realized it is just illogical, pointless, and counterproductive.
If your parents tell you that you should not be affected by words, you are free to ignore them - by their words there should be no way they can influence your opinion.
This isn't even what we are speaking of. We are speaking of analyzing what someone says logically, not emotionally. Don't get angry or sad about what they say, but take it into account to see if it makes sense.
The reason I don't believe its possible is because we have done plenty of research on this.
There is never enough research to be 100% accurate. There is definitely never enough research to predict human behavior. However, would I not know if I was offended or saddened by words? If I didn't, that would be fairly odd. I could even live with it, since I feel nothing.
Every year we watch huge numbers of voters swayed by ads, double the advertising budget sway another percentage point. Clear as day, lots of statistical evidence. We've had 2500 years of military propaganda and its effects are well documented.
Okay, but I still don't feel any emotion towards words or advertisements, nor do I care about people who appeal to popularity.
People just aren't that different.
According to you. However, this isn't "that different" at all. It's just realizing that it's pointless to be offended by such petty, insignificant things.
On most areas you disagree with the vast majority of humans over history and agree with your peers.
Really? Are you sure? Possibly, but it is irrelevant to this discussion.
Because you just so happened to reason in the same way they did?
There are likely no absolute morals. I think about things logically and come to decide if I believe something or not, regardless of whether or not a lot of people believe it. I also largely don't believe in absolutes, so I may be wrong, but since I have a habit of thinking about things, I do not believe I am.
Or are you rationalizing your conformity to mass opinion.
Many people would find my views, opinions, and morals disgusting, so I doubt it is that. However, are you sure you are not just rationalizing your habit of making assumptions? You have made far too many. Yes, many people do possess herd mentality, but to say that all of them do is a hasty generalization.
Assume someone claimed they could jump off buildings flap their wings and fly.
Ridiculous comparison. This is just someone saying that they don't care about the opinion of others and that it's possible to do so. Yes, you can make anything seem ridiculous and impossible when you compare it to such unlikely things. Just because you're not used to it and have a bit of anecdotal evidence to back up your views, that does not mean that everyone fits your stereotype.
So how would you answer him that he cannot in fact fly by flapping his arms?
"I doubt it, but I cannot say for certain."
But, as I said, that was an absolutely ridiculous comparison. There is no reason that I see to assume that it's impossible for someone to just not care about the opinions of others and to be able to analyze the situation logically rather than emotionally.
I merely said that people should not be so emotionally affected by words. If you don't believe that it is possible for someone to not be affected by such petty things at this point, there is nothing more to say, as you probably never will (though I don't understand why you believe such a small thing would be impossible).
I call them weak minded because they are affected by such petty things, not because I am not (or don't believe I am, but I do not see any evidence that I am). As I said, you are only hurt if you let yourself be hurt. Once you realize that there is no reason to be hurt and that it is counterproductive and pointless to do so, it is possible.
psychological problems
A term that has since lost all meaning. It is typically used to describe behavior that people do not like or understand.
Really? Where is your evidence of this? You keep stating absolutes and seemingly refuse to accept any possibility that I may be what I claim to be (which is what I believe myself to be). Why must you try to make everyone out to be the same?
And the data shows they are dead wrong.
Which data? Does this data include everyone in existence and everyone that will come into existence in the future? If not, how can you be 100% certain?
Words themselves cannot, but I know from personal experience that "Let's beat him up on the way from school because he's different." should count as more than mere words, they are an incitement to violence, and it's a long pattern that leads to that violence.
We are speaking of words, not physical violence. That said, you also should not be offended or saddened by such a scenario, as that is also pointless. At that point, it is time to take logical action (probably by involving an authority figure). If authority figures will do nothing, then the problem lies with the system.
Having people recite trite lines like "words cannot hurt you" as a defense against those who seek to alienate their victims through words is not helpful.
Words can't hurt you. If they don't realize this, then it is their own fault. I refuse to support the act of placing them into protective bubbles just to filter out every phrase that they dislike.
"Sticks and stones might break my bones, but words can never hurt me, unless you use those words to convince others that it's OK to use sticks and stones to break my bones because I'm a lesser person."
And? Again, we are speaking of words. Many people, even adults, are easily affected emotionally by words. Something should be done about physical violence, obviously.
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Because idiot parents will buy this for their 10 year old, and they will promptly "attitude adjust" a girl in their class.
The amount of children that view/play violent media is likely staggeringly high. How many of them are actually insane enough actually imitate the violence and try it on others? Most of them know that it's fiction. Most of them know that they do not wish to hurt others simply because they saw it done in a work of fiction. The most any studies have been able to 'prove' is that violent media can be linked to temporary violent thoughts that almost never amount to anything (not even in children). If some abysmally small minority of people who are 'insane' (and if they are children, have terrible parents who censor everything instead of educating them about the difference between fiction and reality) imitate violence they see in violent media, then that is too bad. Those few shouldn't be able to ruin it for everyone else (children or not).
I wouldn't say it's suitable for 10 year olds
Really? I would. In order for these ten year olds to believe that a game is actually reality, they would likely have to be already insane and would have to have terrible parents who do nothing but censor everything instead of educating them about things. Really, the chances of someone (even a child) believing this game is reality are slim to none, I believe. The chances of this actually hurting someone are likely even slimmer. The temporary violent thoughts that some studies correlated to violent media almost never amount to anything.
I'd say it's suitable for anything unless the person is insane and/or has terrible parents.
You can be passionate about something and still be paid well for doing it, and in fact, that's exactly how a lot of great scientific and artistic works are created.
Yes, but typically, someone who is doing it just for the money and has no passion for it probably won't do anything amazing.
Anyone with the time and desire can do it.
You mean like every single job in existence that doesn't rely on certain physical traits? Yes, people can learn. Shocking. It's just too bad that many of them don't have the mindset that allows for that.
"Terrorism," "piracy," and "think of the children" are excuses that the average person just seems to accept.
"There was a terrorist attack!? Maybe you should take away some of our rights that we claim we are better for having so that we can have a false sense of security! That couldn't ever be abused by a corrupt government! Humans can't ever make mistakes when they are given unchecked powers!"
"Oh, you implemented this strict and annoying DRM scheme because of pirates? It's all their fault even though you're the one who implemented it and it's completely ineffective against them! Take all of the features in your product away to 'battle' hypothetical pirates!"
"A child could get hurt, but probably won't!? You better ban that product/practice immediately! Banning something to 'save' an extremely small portion of the population is a completely intelligent decision!"
If it benefits you, let the corruption continue? I can see why many people would want to do that, but it doesn't sound all that appealing to people who aren't in that sort of situation...
Words are petty. They are nothing in the grand scheme of things. You'll be dead, and so will everyone else. Their opinion can only affect you if you let their opinion affect you, and in cases where they are just trying to insult you, letting it affect you is counterproductive.
Language is not irrelevant.
We ourselves are irrelevant and useless. Such things are only important to us (most of us).
and to suggest that you are unaffected by it is to be disingenuous in the extreme.
What do you mean? It becomes easy once you realize how pointless everything is and how equally pointless getting offended by mere words is. I just don't care.
If we are to have meaningful relationships with other members of our species, then we must of necessity allow ourselves to be "hurt by words".
I fail to see why you must be hurt by mere words in order to have "meaningful" (if someone actually wants that) relationships. If someone is merely trying to insult you and is speaking illogically, what good would that do? It would hurt emotionally and distract you, wasting your time.
I don't know, but there seem to be quite a few teachers who go about their job the wrong way. They're extremely short tempered and take offense to nearly everything (even given their situation, this is not appropriate), act like a dictator in their own classrooms (such as censoring speech that opposes their own political views even when the students are allowed to speak), treat their students like garbage (constantly yell and throw out anyone who merely questions or corrects them), and fail to make the class even the slightest bit interesting (it doesn't have to be constantly interesting, but the boring way they teach doesn't help in the slightest). Some of them (typically teachers who teach in electives but have never even been trained in the subject before) don't even know what they are talking about. Although, that is more rare. It also doesn't help that students (even ones in high school) are forced to take subjects that they likely won't even need for their profession just because they might use it.
They may like teaching, but many of them (that I've seen) don't appear to be good at it. If you don't have patience, you really, really shouldn't be a teacher.
Tower? That is a poor assumption, but I believe myself to be speaking logically. Do you need to be hurt by words? Is it not you that lets yourself be hurt by words? Is it not counterproductive and illogical to let yourself be hurt by such petty things?
Okay, I guess we should just continue to let gay people be marginalized and downtrodden.
If it's only by speech, then yes. There's such a thing as "freedom of speech," you know. That doesn't mean "speech that I approve of." It means "freedom of speech."
So they consistently identify as hating their lives due to society's opinions of them.
This is why I always say that people need to get rid of illogical emotions such as anger or sadness, especially in situations such as these. Who cares if someone doesn't like you or approve of what you do for illogical reasons? If you see nothing wrong, then there is likely no problem. Analyze what they say logically, not emotionally, and if it doesn't make logical sense, dismiss it and cease caring. They are just words. They are nothing else. You are only hurt because you let yourself be hurt, and letting yourself be hurt by something so petty is illogical and counterproductive. If they kill themselves over it, it is their own fault.
I'm guessing that most of society fails to obtain this mindset. It is a shame, really. They waste their time worrying about pointless words whilst claiming that humans are an intelligent species.
By that reasoning it is perfectly acceptable to be a pedophile, murderer, rapist, alcoholic, or any other sort of degenerate just because it is who you are deep inside.
'Acceptable' is subjective.
Censorship is idiotic. I see no real reason that they shouldn't accept it, despite the fact that I heavily disagree with their message.
isn't financially viable for a platform that has such a high percentage of piracy.
Where did you get this information?
And you simply limit the kids to .kids TLD.
A better idea would be to just not care. Why even bother with the censorship?
Autists and sociopaths
And people who realized it is just illogical, pointless, and counterproductive.
If your parents tell you that you should not be affected by words, you are free to ignore them - by their words there should be no way they can influence your opinion.
This isn't even what we are speaking of. We are speaking of analyzing what someone says logically, not emotionally. Don't get angry or sad about what they say, but take it into account to see if it makes sense.
The reason I don't believe its possible is because we have done plenty of research on this.
There is never enough research to be 100% accurate. There is definitely never enough research to predict human behavior. However, would I not know if I was offended or saddened by words? If I didn't, that would be fairly odd. I could even live with it, since I feel nothing.
Every year we watch huge numbers of voters swayed by ads, double the advertising budget sway another percentage point. Clear as day, lots of statistical evidence. We've had 2500 years of military propaganda and its effects are well documented.
Okay, but I still don't feel any emotion towards words or advertisements, nor do I care about people who appeal to popularity.
People just aren't that different.
According to you. However, this isn't "that different" at all. It's just realizing that it's pointless to be offended by such petty, insignificant things.
On most areas you disagree with the vast majority of humans over history and agree with your peers.
Really? Are you sure? Possibly, but it is irrelevant to this discussion.
Because you just so happened to reason in the same way they did?
There are likely no absolute morals. I think about things logically and come to decide if I believe something or not, regardless of whether or not a lot of people believe it. I also largely don't believe in absolutes, so I may be wrong, but since I have a habit of thinking about things, I do not believe I am.
Or are you rationalizing your conformity to mass opinion.
Many people would find my views, opinions, and morals disgusting, so I doubt it is that. However, are you sure you are not just rationalizing your habit of making assumptions? You have made far too many. Yes, many people do possess herd mentality, but to say that all of them do is a hasty generalization.
Assume someone claimed they could jump off buildings flap their wings and fly.
Ridiculous comparison. This is just someone saying that they don't care about the opinion of others and that it's possible to do so. Yes, you can make anything seem ridiculous and impossible when you compare it to such unlikely things. Just because you're not used to it and have a bit of anecdotal evidence to back up your views, that does not mean that everyone fits your stereotype.
So how would you answer him that he cannot in fact fly by flapping his arms?
"I doubt it, but I cannot say for certain."
But, as I said, that was an absolutely ridiculous comparison. There is no reason that I see to assume that it's impossible for someone to just not care about the opinions of others and to be able to analyze the situation logically rather than emotionally.
I merely said that people should not be so emotionally affected by words. If you don't believe that it is possible for someone to not be affected by such petty things at this point, there is nothing more to say, as you probably never will (though I don't understand why you believe such a small thing would be impossible).
calling people weak minded
I call them weak minded because they are affected by such petty things, not because I am not (or don't believe I am, but I do not see any evidence that I am). As I said, you are only hurt if you let yourself be hurt. Once you realize that there is no reason to be hurt and that it is counterproductive and pointless to do so, it is possible.
psychological problems
A term that has since lost all meaning. It is typically used to describe behavior that people do not like or understand.
You misunderstand. I do not hold them back. I never get angry or sad in the first place.
No all humans are you included.
Really? Where is your evidence of this? You keep stating absolutes and seemingly refuse to accept any possibility that I may be what I claim to be (which is what I believe myself to be). Why must you try to make everyone out to be the same?
And the data shows they are dead wrong.
Which data? Does this data include everyone in existence and everyone that will come into existence in the future? If not, how can you be 100% certain?
Not quite. I still feel other emotions such as happiness, but I've merely learned how pointless it is to get angry or sad.
and also due justice.
Just for who? The imaginary little girl?
You don't know what their intent is at all until they actually (try to) do something.
Do you want to sit with "the loser" at lunch?
I couldn't care less about such a thing. If I like that person and their attitude, it does not matter what others feel about them.
Words themselves cannot, but I know from personal experience that "Let's beat him up on the way from school because he's different." should count as more than mere words, they are an incitement to violence, and it's a long pattern that leads to that violence.
We are speaking of words, not physical violence. That said, you also should not be offended or saddened by such a scenario, as that is also pointless. At that point, it is time to take logical action (probably by involving an authority figure). If authority figures will do nothing, then the problem lies with the system.
Having people recite trite lines like "words cannot hurt you" as a defense against those who seek to alienate their victims through words is not helpful.
Words can't hurt you. If they don't realize this, then it is their own fault. I refuse to support the act of placing them into protective bubbles just to filter out every phrase that they dislike.
"Sticks and stones might break my bones, but words can never hurt me, unless you use those words to convince others that it's OK to use sticks and stones to break my bones because I'm a lesser person."
And? Again, we are speaking of words. Many people, even adults, are easily affected emotionally by words. Something should be done about physical violence, obviously.