no, im saying its inappropriate and an invasion of privacy. there are too many opportunities for human error for a system that can endanger the well-being of innocent (or even guilty) people.
because this group is targeted for abuse, it should not be publicly identified regardless of the reason. im not even convinced the police should know where these folks live unless they have a specific reason for needing it.
and for the people who are actually rehabilitated, wrongly convicted, wrong place wrongtime? your argument continues to fail to address that problem.
id be curious to see how you felt if you bought someones house who was in the megans law database and someone broke in and beat the crap out of you because they thought you were a child molester.
Murder, molestation, and rape (i.e.: what I cited) amount to three items. (Is there a serial exaggerator database we can sign you up for? If a person decides to murder, molest, or rape, they lose their right to privacy regarding those crimes.
so then were do you draw the line? what about burglary? certainly a violent and invasive experience for the victim. worth of branding?
And I could point you to cases where convicted sexual offenders have been released only to commit the same crime again. Why should a victim lose they're right to not be raped?
so it should be acceptable someone who has paid their debt (or in other cases is entirely innocent) is branded by society and held up on view of everyone else for ridicule? or beaten in their home by vigilantes? or murdered by the same?
where are their rights? did they give them up when they moved into a house that used to be occupied by a sex offender? when they completed their therapy and no longer have the urge to commit violent acts? when the initial trial itself was a farce perpetrated by the victim who falsely identified them as the culprit, only to have the case thrown out years later on DNA evidence?
there are not enough absolutes out there to ruin these peoples lives for the sake of what they might do in the future.
if by personal experience you mean im sick of this nanny state bullshit, yes i have personal experience.
as a parent it is your job to give your kids the tools they need to survive in the world. its a big scary place, and you better prepare them for that. because you have kids does not give you the right to dictate to everyone else how the should behave, what they can say, what they can watch, what they can do in the privacy of their own home.
on their face i do not agree with 'for the children' arguments because the only reason you need me to 'behave' around your kids is because you havent properly taught them to deal with the world as whole.
my conclusion is that this law is effectively a modern version of the scarlet letter, and as a people we will never progress as long as we insist on vilifying those who have done wrong.
in chicago if you get caught peeing outside you are a sex offender. which means you have to go tell all your neighbors that you peed outside and got caught.
lets say you HAVE messed around with a kid, but are in therapy and doing well. you have no urges to perform such acts in the future. you STILL have to notify everyone in your neighborhood about your past actions.
we do not require this of thieves, murderers, embezzlers, muggers, pickpockets, con artists, alcoholics, drug abusers, wife beaters, or ANY OTHER CLASS OF CRIME.
the people do not have a right to know. the people fear for their children and as such feel that it is their right to be nosy.
youve got to be kidding me. there is absolutely no reason i need to hear the person i am wedged next to talking about the CUTEST thing his daugther did the other day. flying is unenjoyable enough without sitting through a conversation with my seat neighbors aunt tillie about the smallest little bullshit details in his life because they are so bored they dont have anything else to do.
even worse would be a teenage girl (or a 30-something who wishes she was a teenage girl) and all the vapid crap they find interesting. im not sure i could turn up the volume enough on whatever it is im trying to distract myself with to drown that out. not to mention the cabin noise which would make them have to yell all the louder.
there isnt a person flying on any flight i would take that is so incredibly important that they cant be cut off for 4 hours. 4 hours! get a grip, be quiet, and stop reclining your seat. thanks.
how about instead of ebooks being cheap: you purchase the physical book, and get access to the kindle version immediately. that way you can start reading before it shows up if you really need it (think textbooks).
the writeup implies that the 30gb version remains in production as a 4th viable unit.
this is not the case, which GP is clearly stating.
the 30gb version is simply overstocked to the point of having a crazy surplus of inventory in channel. enough so that it presents a 4th option. hell even woot has had them in a wootoff or two, and as two separate items. and i bet we see it again. i wonder if the brown one will make it into the bag of crap at some point.
personally i dont believe either should be classified in any way. tienamen square happened quite a while ago, and was an atrocious violation of human rights. there is no reason information or reporting on this even should be classified.
airport security procedure is actively happening, is sometimes a violation of human rights, and is at least arguably necessary to classify.
as i said, the US is not perfect. other countries have demonstrated themselves to be significantly worse.
france and germany actively prosecute people selling paraphanelia from the 3rd reich on auction sites, and france has attempted to enforce this policy on the site itself, regardless of where the auction is being held.
north korea, china and most of the middle east actively filters what its citizens are allowed to read. china has imprisoned journalists for publishing information it does not want posted, and have frequently deemed things 'state secrets' to cover up goings on inside their borders.
meanwhile the US is not perfect, however a group of senators recently had a very rough conversation with the yahoo execs regarding china and what happened with a journalist there. its better than nothing.
youll understand why im somewhat hesitant about allowing iran and china a say in how this whole thing is being run.
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no, im saying its inappropriate and an invasion of privacy. there are too many opportunities for human error for a system that can endanger the well-being of innocent (or even guilty) people.
because this group is targeted for abuse, it should not be publicly identified regardless of the reason. im not even convinced the police should know where these folks live unless they have a specific reason for needing it.
and for the people who are actually rehabilitated, wrongly convicted, wrong place wrongtime? your argument continues to fail to address that problem.
id be curious to see how you felt if you bought someones house who was in the megans law database and someone broke in and beat the crap out of you because they thought you were a child molester.
ok bad analogy guy try this one:
violation of civil rights bad
violation of civil rights BAD
violation of civil rights BAD!!!
Murder, molestation, and rape (i.e.: what I cited) amount to three items. (Is there a serial exaggerator database we can sign you up for?
If a person decides to murder, molest, or rape, they lose their right to privacy regarding those crimes.
so then were do you draw the line? what about burglary? certainly a violent and invasive experience for the victim. worth of branding?
And I could point you to cases where convicted sexual offenders have been released only to commit the same crime again. Why should a victim lose they're right to not be raped?
so it should be acceptable someone who has paid their debt (or in other cases is entirely innocent) is branded by society and held up on view of everyone else for ridicule? or beaten in their home by vigilantes? or murdered by the same?
where are their rights? did they give them up when they moved into a house that used to be occupied by a sex offender? when they completed their therapy and no longer have the urge to commit violent acts? when the initial trial itself was a farce perpetrated by the victim who falsely identified them as the culprit, only to have the case thrown out years later on DNA evidence?
there are not enough absolutes out there to ruin these peoples lives for the sake of what they might do in the future.
if by personal experience you mean im sick of this nanny state bullshit, yes i have personal experience.
as a parent it is your job to give your kids the tools they need to survive in the world. its a big scary place, and you better prepare them for that. because you have kids does not give you the right to dictate to everyone else how the should behave, what they can say, what they can watch, what they can do in the privacy of their own home.
on their face i do not agree with 'for the children' arguments because the only reason you need me to 'behave' around your kids is because you havent properly taught them to deal with the world as whole.
youre saying that invading someones privacy is ok because people need to know about all the bad things their neighbors have done.
this article is a PERFECT example of why that is an incredibly bad idea.
wheres BadIdeaGuy when you need him?
my conclusion is that this law is effectively a modern version of the scarlet letter, and as a people we will never progress as long as we insist on vilifying those who have done wrong.
you would prefer finger pointing?
how does someone have a right to know?
in chicago if you get caught peeing outside you are a sex offender. which means you have to go tell all your neighbors that you peed outside and got caught.
lets say you HAVE messed around with a kid, but are in therapy and doing well. you have no urges to perform such acts in the future. you STILL have to notify everyone in your neighborhood about your past actions.
we do not require this of thieves, murderers, embezzlers, muggers, pickpockets, con artists, alcoholics, drug abusers, wife beaters, or ANY OTHER CLASS OF CRIME.
the people do not have a right to know. the people fear for their children and as such feel that it is their right to be nosy.
when referring to government i prefer "evil, but necessary"
that way the evil is emphasized.
shut up on the plane, douchebag.
the only time ive ever had a drink on a plane i started feeling really miserable, so thats a no-go for me :-(
likeohmygodnowaydidhereallyjustsaythat?
youve got to be kidding me. there is absolutely no reason i need to hear the person i am wedged next to talking about the CUTEST thing his daugther did the other day. flying is unenjoyable enough without sitting through a conversation with my seat neighbors aunt tillie about the smallest little bullshit details in his life because they are so bored they dont have anything else to do.
even worse would be a teenage girl (or a 30-something who wishes she was a teenage girl) and all the vapid crap they find interesting. im not sure i could turn up the volume enough on whatever it is im trying to distract myself with to drown that out. not to mention the cabin noise which would make them have to yell all the louder.
there isnt a person flying on any flight i would take that is so incredibly important that they cant be cut off for 4 hours. 4 hours! get a grip, be quiet, and stop reclining your seat. thanks.
in summary: it would bother me that much.
we wont get fooled again!
Thrall Pro Skater 2: grinding in dalaran
how about instead of ebooks being cheap: you purchase the physical book, and get access to the kindle version immediately. that way you can start reading before it shows up if you really need it (think textbooks).
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really?
worked just fine on my xp box with the patch for dx9.
the writeup implies that the 30gb version remains in production as a 4th viable unit.
this is not the case, which GP is clearly stating.
the 30gb version is simply overstocked to the point of having a crazy surplus of inventory in channel. enough so that it presents a 4th option. hell even woot has had them in a wootoff or two, and as two separate items. and i bet we see it again. i wonder if the brown one will make it into the bag of crap at some point.
lots of things can escaped being changed. typically they are not proceeded with a ^ or /
yea. it was all about those females of the same sex.
see i knew someone was going to pull this out.
compare tienamen square versus, say, airport security procedure.
personally i dont believe either should be classified in any way. tienamen square happened quite a while ago, and was an atrocious violation of human rights. there is no reason information or reporting on this even should be classified.
airport security procedure is actively happening, is sometimes a violation of human rights, and is at least arguably necessary to classify.
as i said, the US is not perfect. other countries have demonstrated themselves to be significantly worse.
france and germany actively prosecute people selling paraphanelia from the 3rd reich on auction sites, and france has attempted to enforce this policy on the site itself, regardless of where the auction is being held.
north korea, china and most of the middle east actively filters what its citizens are allowed to read. china has imprisoned journalists for publishing information it does not want posted, and have frequently deemed things 'state secrets' to cover up goings on inside their borders.
meanwhile the US is not perfect, however a group of senators recently had a very rough conversation with the yahoo execs regarding china and what happened with a journalist there. its better than nothing.
youll understand why im somewhat hesitant about allowing iran and china a say in how this whole thing is being run.
so how is that the USs fault? because russia and other states in the region havent laid sufficient fiber, the US is somehow responsible?
duh, this is slashdot. wild speculation of those that clothe themselves in tinfoil is taken as the gospel truth, no questions asked.
so then its optical hard disk drive, floppy hard disk drive, zip hard disk drive, etc, etc?
methinks no.