If someone jams gum in the locks of Macy's in Manhattan, that would cause a denial of service, disrupting business for a time as well. Would we care? Would we see it broadcast in the news? You know we wouldn't.
However, this is the big, bad internet, and all of us are unsafe for the dangers at hand are new and daunting.... Bullocks.
It seems that we flatter ourselves by treating this any differently than any other act of vandalism. Big f(*&(*&- ing deal if some jerks take down Yahoo or NYT. Compared to the 'non-virtual' vandalism, the damage is lest costly to fix, and the delinquents are easier to find.
I get embarrased for myself when I see people even dwell on these subjects- mainly because it seems to be a clear indication of how we are taking ourselves way too seriously. Does society have lenghtly discussions about how to lessen the chances of having somone put a burning bag of dog crap on someones doorstep, or how to keep people from calling Joe's House of Pizza to have 15 pizza's delivered to somebody they don't like, etc?
Of course not. Although discussion IS important, sensationalism helps no one. I have no problems with this D0S being posted on Slashdot, I do have a problem with the people who are posting in regards to this issue who want to make this seem to be an issue that is only known to the wild frontier of e-commerce. It isn't.
If you disagree, then you have obviously never seen the episode of 'I Love Lucy' where Lucy & Ethel called a fancy restaurant and made 100 phony reservations, so that they could have the restaurant all to themselves. That was a denial of service, too.
The more we flatter ourselves by acting like e-business is different than the capitalism we've been doing all along, the more reluctant people will be to embrace it.
i wish to call a moratorium on Neil Diamond parodies. The little 'from the... dept' has got that song echoing in my brain, where I am sure it will remain for the better part of my day, haunting me, and maybe even tricking me into humming it in public.
If i start breaking into a medley involving "Cracklin' Rosie", I will have no choice but to hunt you down and make you pay for this insidious echo that resounds between my ears.
In the future I ask you to please be more responsible with your position as slashdot author.
Just think about all the things begat by the onset of the automobile-
The industrial revolution was revised/perfected because of the automobile. Union labor was realized as a formidable force in both the legislature and organized crime. Goodyear bought railroads along the coast of California, ultimately destroying them, forcing people to buy cars for lack of available transportation. Think about all the laws made as a result of automobiles in todays society, and how they restrict a persons liberty, when compared to a person who used a horse and carriage for transportation 100 years ago.
Indeed, it seems that 'The Man(TM)' found the perfect vehicle (apologies for the bad pun) to keep us in line, make us not even question being stopped, questioned and searched in the name of 'the common good'.
If you look at my statement (or maybe squint at it from an odd angle), you might see how the high-tech and networking industries are following this same model, and how someone may fear what this new technological freedom known as the internet may put the powerful automotive 'revolution' to shame.
I love ridding myself of bile like that. It makes me seem like less of an angry person if I vent on slashdot before going to work.
Whether you consider him to be a script kiddie punk, or a political martyr, the fact remains that the man has been incarcerated longer than some who are sentenced for rape, kidnapping, agrravated assault, battery, grand theft auto...
Surely I wasn't the only one in this thread that remembers hearing WGO radio giving thier 'Mitnick Manhunt Updates', and thought something like, "What if that was me?".
*shiver*
Hey Kevin, let me buy you your first beer in four years. It's the least I can do.
Outside of the obvious things that she did for science and the Allied forces during WWII- as well as the simple fact that I would not have a modem if not for her, the one thing that sticks in my mind is this:
After her accomplishments were turned over to the Government for the war effort, they did not welcome her into the halls of the nations think tanks.
Instead, they asked her to sell her sex appeal as a spokesmodel for the sale of U.S. war bonds.
Out of sheer patriotism, she did.
I'm just happy that she has started to recieve some of the respect that she's had coming for so long, and that the EFF was good enough to say 'thanks' while she was still alive.
The first thing that I thought of when I saw this post was the made-for-TV-movie starring Tom Hanks of (at the time) 'Bosom Buddies' fame.
Let's hope that they keep the raging paranoia about satan worship, cults and the like out of this show as well. That's the last thing we need after all that 'Hellmouth' backlash...
Last I heard, all Bill knew how code in was VB! Can you image running your mission critical network/distributed computing environment on an OS written in Qbasic? Hmmmmm.... that would have to be some modular code indeed....
I know, I know, it's a cheap shot. he won't be coding (well, maybe just the bootstrap *wink*) to be sure, but it will be interesting to see if he can play the role of visionary as well as he did the role of capitalist.
The article was about the author's perspective of what was important to him. Not necessarily society. If this is the case, then it stands to reason that the author may be more boring than myself!:)
It also makes me wonder what I would have done without some things like the combustible engine, toilet paper (not until the 1800's... can you belive it?), ramen noodles, and of course, the crybaby and wah-wah guitar pedals used by Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and Pete Townshend.
Seriously, though-
The list in this thread goes to show that indeed, we wouldn't last a nano-second in the 18th century. No wonder we make Luddites sick!
Some time ago, the l0pht was involved in trying to set up a small independent network (along the lines of DARPA ) involving microwave technology to communicate 'off of the grid'.
How has the work progressed? Any notes, or better yet, a HOW-TO?
could you please tell me how you came to this conclusion? Most of the world likes accountability (i understand how this concept is lost on cowards), so how did you stumble upon this fact?
If i'm brainwashed, then show me how the brainwashing was done. How did they get all these people onto reservations ( long before 1963 )?
Slashdot Mirror
who has pot seeds/stems as the main culprit
of a rattling keyboard?
Just wondering
They STILL haven't worked out that bug that made Lee Majors (and Farrah) sound like a turbine
everytime they ran and stuff.
If someone jams gum in the locks of Macy's in Manhattan, that would cause a
denial of service, disrupting business for a
time as well. Would we care? Would we see it broadcast in the news? You know we wouldn't.
However, this is the big, bad internet, and all
of us are unsafe for the dangers at hand are new
and daunting.... Bullocks.
It seems that we flatter ourselves by treating this any differently than any other act of vandalism. Big f(*&(*&- ing deal if some jerks
take down Yahoo or NYT. Compared to the 'non-virtual' vandalism, the damage is lest costly to fix, and the delinquents are easier to find.
I get embarrased for myself when I see people even
dwell on these subjects- mainly because it seems to be a clear indication of how we are taking ourselves way too seriously. Does society have lenghtly discussions about how to lessen the chances of having somone put a burning bag of dog crap on someones doorstep, or how to keep people from calling Joe's House of Pizza to have 15 pizza's delivered to somebody they don't like, etc?
Of course not. Although discussion IS important,
sensationalism helps no one. I have no problems with this D0S being posted on Slashdot, I do have
a problem with the people who are posting in regards to this issue who want to make this seem
to be an issue that is only known to the wild frontier of e-commerce. It isn't.
If you disagree, then you have obviously never seen the episode of 'I Love Lucy' where Lucy & Ethel called a fancy restaurant and made 100 phony reservations, so that they could have the restaurant all to themselves. That was a denial of service, too.
The more we flatter ourselves by acting like e-business is different than the capitalism we've been doing all along, the more reluctant people will be to embrace it.
i wish to call a moratorium on Neil Diamond parodies. The little 'from the ... dept' has
got that song echoing in my brain, where I am sure it will remain for the better part of my day, haunting me, and maybe even tricking me into humming it in public.
If i start breaking into a medley involving "Cracklin' Rosie", I will have no choice but to hunt you down and make you pay for this insidious echo that resounds between my ears.
In the future I ask you to please be more responsible with your position as slashdot author.
You have been warned.
Thank You.
Just minimize it, d00d.
.dt directory.
Or better yet, just edit the startup files in
your
Just think about all the things begat by the onset
of the automobile-
The industrial revolution was revised/perfected
because of the automobile. Union labor was realized as a formidable force in both the legislature and organized crime. Goodyear bought
railroads along the coast of California, ultimately destroying them, forcing people to buy cars for lack of available transportation.
Think about all the laws made as a result of automobiles in todays society, and how they restrict a persons liberty, when compared to a person who used a horse and carriage for transportation 100 years ago.
Indeed, it seems that 'The Man(TM)' found the perfect vehicle (apologies for the bad pun) to keep us in line, make us not even question being stopped, questioned and searched in the name of 'the common good'.
If you look at my statement (or maybe squint at it from an odd angle), you might see how the high-tech and networking industries are following this same model, and how someone may fear what this new technological freedom known as the internet may put the powerful automotive 'revolution' to shame.
I love ridding myself of bile like that. It makes me seem like less of an angry person if I vent on slashdot before going to work.
Thanks for lettin' me get my ya-ya's out.
Whether you consider him to be a script kiddie punk, or a political martyr, the fact remains that the man has been incarcerated longer than some who are sentenced for rape, kidnapping, agrravated assault, battery, grand theft auto...
Surely I wasn't the only one in this thread that remembers hearing WGO radio giving thier 'Mitnick
Manhunt Updates', and thought something like,
"What if that was me?".
*shiver*
Hey Kevin, let me buy you your first beer in four years. It's the least I can do.
Outside of the obvious things that she did for science and the Allied forces during WWII- as well as the simple fact that I would not have a modem if not for her, the one thing that sticks in my mind is this:
After her accomplishments were turned over to the Government for the war effort, they did not welcome her into the halls of the nations think tanks.
Instead, they asked her to sell her sex appeal as a spokesmodel for the sale of U.S. war bonds.
Out of sheer patriotism, she did.
I'm just happy that she has started to recieve some of the respect that she's had coming for so long, and that the EFF was good enough to say 'thanks' while she was still alive.
The first thing that I thought of when I saw this
post was the made-for-TV-movie starring Tom Hanks of (at the time) 'Bosom Buddies' fame.
Let's hope that they keep the raging paranoia
about satan worship, cults and the like out of
this show as well. That's the last thing we need after all that 'Hellmouth' backlash...
Last I heard, all Bill knew how code in was VB!
Can you image running your mission critical
network/distributed computing environment on an OS written in Qbasic?
Hmmmmm.... that would have to be some modular code indeed....
I know, I know, it's a cheap shot. he won't be coding (well, maybe just the bootstrap *wink*)
to be sure, but it will be interesting to see if he can play the role of visionary as well as he did
the role of capitalist.
but 'writed'? Writed!?!?!?!?! Vo Ist writed?!?!?!
Why did you not choose 'written'? Is it a jab to over-zealous grammar nazi's such as myself?
:)
I'll attempt to seem on-topic:
Well, that's the last Uraguayan linux distro that I'm ever going to buy.... *Hrumph*
but some stuff is still broke (for my set-up, anyhow).
I don't think that checklist posted earlier was completed.
*sigh* i guess that'll be worked out in the 'ac' patches...
Okay... maybe not.
:)
The article was about the author's perspective of what was important to him. Not necessarily society. If this is the case, then it stands to reason that the author may be more boring than myself!
It also makes me wonder what I would have done without some things like the combustible engine,
toilet paper (not until the 1800's... can you belive it?), ramen noodles, and of course, the
crybaby and wah-wah guitar pedals used by Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and Pete Townshend.
Seriously, though-
The list in this thread goes to show that indeed, we wouldn't last a nano-second in the 18th century. No wonder we make Luddites sick!
to the first person I hear that says:
"Jesus is coming, Look busy!!!"
there were chemical spills, and the air smelled pretty bad all the time. Ammonia, sulfates, god
knows what else.
It's a sad day when a vegan isn't safe from synthetic components in his/her food.
Thanks, Monsanto. My eyes don't burn since I've moved out of St. Louis.
Some time ago, the l0pht was involved in trying to set up a small independent network (along the lines of DARPA ) involving microwave technology to communicate 'off of the grid'.
How has the work progressed? Any notes, or better yet, a HOW-TO?
First thing that i'll put in it is Linus' initial
post to the minix news group.
old town, maine ( i lived there ).
there is a reservation there. they make canoes.
i have been there.
( so has your mom )
could you please tell me how you came to this conclusion? Most of the world likes accountability
(i understand how this concept is lost on cowards), so how did you stumble upon this fact?
If i'm brainwashed, then show me how the brainwashing was done. How did they get all these people onto reservations ( long before 1963 )?
Obviously none of you were born before 1963, or you wouldn't be so gullible.
let me try this:
"Hey anonymous coward- didja know that if you cut off your head, then it will grow back?"
BTW, G. Gordon Liddy is a politician, too. Why do you trust him?
Obviously none of you were born before 1963, or you wouldn't be so gullible.
let me try this:
"Hey anonymous coward- didja know that if you cut off your head, then it will grow back?"
BTW, G. Gordon Liddy is a politician, too. Why do you trust him?
...and post without the assistance of opposable thumbs?
how about a text that shows me that the people that I have actually met never existed?
texts that say how/why all this was made up.
where did you get your information? i really
am fascinated, at this point.
surely there must be some document explaining how
an entire world has been tricked.
or are you saying that you figured this out on your own ( with the assistance of crack or PCP, i would assume)?
and the people on the reservations? I live near one, please don't tell me that they are holograms.
btw, i haven't seen you cite any sources to convince me that you aren't just making this up.
care to enlighten me with these great texts that I haven't come across?
wow. i guess you never went to a museum of history. (can you spell history?)
If what you say is true, please cite a source that says that where these treaties got signed and why all these people are on reservations.
I'm really curious.