Not true... What If I have a colo'd server in $FOREIGN_COUNTRY which acts as a network drive upon all which everything is encrypted... that way they can't pick up my "computer" that has my data on it, and I don't log in for $TIME, it wipes
the second part of the study though said that you want loose-fitting "on-ear" not "around the ear" or "in the ear" so that pressure waves have a chance to escape
I see your "Nothing beats sitting in front of the hot fireplace" after shoveling a few feet of snow, and raise you a "Sitting [naked] in a nice hot-tub with your [wife/SO/etc.]"
Possession is 9/10s of the law... and in this case the other tenth doesn't belong to the person who argues it in court with a lawyer, but to the person with the "Peacekeeper*" aimed at anybody who disagrees
*Yeah, I know, all of the peacekeeper missiles have been decommissioned, but the point still stands
yes, but it's much easier to arrange a "civil protest" about an action when you know what's going on BEFORE they vote on it.
not to push buttons here, but if there had been enough time prior to the patriot act being voted on, do you think people would have gotten into an uproar?
for this whole democracy thing to work right, we need to have an edumacated populace, we need to know what's going on in enough time to tell our congress-critters how we feel they should represent us.
My question is, I've read the settlement, and it seems pretty "boilerplate", but What does NYCL, (If he can talk about it) think of a) the terms of the settlement, and b) the fact that it was settled at all?
I find it interesting that gmail's spam filters are in-bound only (If that is in fact the case [citation needed])
on the e-mail system I run, every message gets sent through our spam/virus-detection system. I don't care if it's inbound, or outbound, it gets scanned. period.
yes my site is much smaller than gmail, but still... isn't the first rule "Don't trust the users!"?
Honestly, I don't see how greylisting fundamentally changes the economics of spam.
first one assumption: 1) Most spam is sent by infected PCs
Now lets analyze how greylisting works in this case: As it currently stands, 1) Joe-Spammer sends out a command, "Spam $MESSAGE to $LIST" (or to $NUMBER addresses) 2) infected PC says "hokay bass" and starts sending, gets a "Try again Later" message, and drops it, no spam
lets make one small change 1) Joe-Spammer crafts/buys/finds an update to his bot, sends out a "Update yourself" command, infected PCs update themselves 2) Joe-Spammer sends out a command "Spam $MESSAGE to $LIST" 3) Infected PC says "hokay bass" and starts sending, gets a try again later" message, stores it, and tries again later... presto, spam.
the spammer doesn't really care, because it's not his computer.
lets look at "holding connections open" same deal, all it takes is a small update, that once it's done, rather than just sending a QUIT (FIN), it sends a RST packet, sure you can filter out RST packets, but that just holds your end open.
it's an arms race, and much like the DRM/anti-DRM issue, you're going to find that there are very few *global* tricks that will work.
Even the GPG trick, while it may work for him, if it becomes prevelant, won't work for long. because *It's not the spammer's computer* it's just another step, 1) Joe-Spammer sends out "Update yourself command" 2) infected PC downloads update 3) send spam, 4) generate random GPG key (using the already installed GPG software that "everybody" is using 5) download a set of public keys (oh look, confirmed e-mail addresses) encrypt & sign with newly generated key, poof they get through
once again, the spammer doesn't care because it isn't his(or her) computer, and with modern computers "cycles are cheap"
sure we can now detect that a certain key is being used to spam, but by the time that key has been distributed to spam-filters, it won't be used any more.
IMHO the only real solution is a social-economic one. Train people to not order or even reply to any unsolicited e-mail (and I include those stupid auto-added mailing lists from the likes of walmart, amazon, etc in that list) to the point where there's no reason to send it, and well, "people is dumb" so that ain't never gonna happen.
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Read a book already... it's more entertaining than TV
see, personally, I prefer zsh to bash
don't forget `echo $?` and of course, the ever-popular backticks
So, Kelvin and Celsius are roughly the same scale
Roughly? how about, they *are* the same scale, just transposed 273.15 [units]
http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter2/2-2/table3.html
Not true... What If I have a colo'd server in $FOREIGN_COUNTRY which acts as a network drive upon all which everything is encrypted... that way they can't pick up my "computer" that has my data on it, and I don't log in for $TIME, it wipes
Sorry Judge, I forgot
No No No, you're getting it wrong... it's "I'm sorry Senator, I have no recollection of that event"
personally, any appointed, or elected official that ever uses that should be canned, on the spot
the second part of the study though said that you want loose-fitting "on-ear" not "around the ear" or "in the ear" so that pressure waves have a chance to escape
ditto for "Flight of the Valkyries" and "Phantom"
both incidentally make good music to drive to
Obligatory http://xkcd.com/479/
I see your "Nothing beats sitting in front of the hot fireplace" after shoveling a few feet of snow, and raise you a "Sitting [naked] in a nice hot-tub with your [wife/SO/etc.]"
Possession is 9/10s of the law... and in this case the other tenth doesn't belong to the person who argues it in court with a lawyer, but to the person with the "Peacekeeper*" aimed at anybody who disagrees
*Yeah, I know, all of the peacekeeper missiles have been decommissioned, but the point still stands
yes
yes, but it's much easier to arrange a "civil protest" about an action when you know what's going on BEFORE they vote on it.
not to push buttons here, but if there had been enough time prior to the patriot act being voted on, do you think people would have gotten into an uproar?
for this whole democracy thing to work right, we need to have an edumacated populace, we need to know what's going on in enough time to tell our congress-critters how we feel they should represent us.
My question is, I've read the settlement, and it seems pretty "boilerplate", but What does NYCL, (If he can talk about it) think of a) the terms of the settlement, and b) the fact that it was settled at all?
dude... no more than a quart of liquids in my vehicle... I hope that they have filling stations every mile
You mean like PlaneShift does?
I find it interesting that gmail's spam filters are in-bound only (If that is in fact the case [citation needed])
on the e-mail system I run, every message gets sent through our spam/virus-detection system. I don't care if it's inbound, or outbound, it gets scanned. period.
yes my site is much smaller than gmail, but still... isn't the first rule "Don't trust the users!"?
Hey!
My senators are the Honerable Susan Collins, and the Honerable Olympia Snowe
and just as an added bonus, my representative in the US House is Michael Michaud
(No I didn't have to look them up)
Coat it with aluminum, polish it, and attach a powerful lamp in place of the reciever.
aim it at your neighbors and fire it up.
Any of Piers Anthony's works... Zanth especially, his "incarnations of Immortality" may be a bit much, but I enjoyed them back in the day
I started reading Asimov's "R daniel" series when I was 11-ish... "Caves of Steel" is a great place to start
telnet is fr wusses... "Real Men" use netcat
they also have a bunch of "corenet-###" (at RPI)
Honestly, I don't see how greylisting fundamentally changes the economics of spam.
first one assumption:
1) Most spam is sent by infected PCs
Now lets analyze how greylisting works in this case:
As it currently stands,
1) Joe-Spammer sends out a command, "Spam $MESSAGE to $LIST" (or to $NUMBER addresses)
2) infected PC says "hokay bass" and starts sending, gets a "Try again Later" message, and drops it, no spam
lets make one small change
1) Joe-Spammer crafts/buys/finds an update to his bot, sends out a "Update yourself" command, infected PCs update themselves
2) Joe-Spammer sends out a command "Spam $MESSAGE to $LIST"
3) Infected PC says "hokay bass" and starts sending, gets a try again later" message, stores it, and tries again later... presto, spam.
the spammer doesn't really care, because it's not his computer.
lets look at "holding connections open" same deal, all it takes is a small update, that once it's done, rather than just sending a QUIT (FIN), it sends a RST packet, sure you can filter out RST packets, but that just holds your end open.
it's an arms race, and much like the DRM/anti-DRM issue, you're going to find that there are very few *global* tricks that will work.
Even the GPG trick, while it may work for him, if it becomes prevelant, won't work for long. because *It's not the spammer's computer* it's just another step,
1) Joe-Spammer sends out "Update yourself command"
2) infected PC downloads update
3) send spam,
4) generate random GPG key (using the already installed GPG software that "everybody" is using
5) download a set of public keys (oh look, confirmed e-mail addresses) encrypt & sign with newly generated key, poof they get through
once again, the spammer doesn't care because it isn't his(or her) computer, and with modern computers "cycles are cheap"
sure we can now detect that a certain key is being used to spam, but by the time that key has been distributed to spam-filters, it won't be used any more.
IMHO the only real solution is a social-economic one. Train people to not order or even reply to any unsolicited e-mail (and I include those stupid auto-added mailing lists from the likes of walmart, amazon, etc in that list) to the point where there's no reason to send it, and well, "people is dumb" so that ain't never gonna happen.
theoretically, YES...
The draft N spec includes language to ensure that they can be firmware upgraded