...Intel figures out what to do with the probably thousands of people working Itanic, they'll drop it. You can't just nix such a huge project and bone all the employees. I suspect they've been wanting to drag this thing out back and shoot it for some time, I mean it gets ZERO real estate or marketing attention on the website or corporate SEC prospectus info. Never read about it adding to bottom line in any filings.
Maybe they just make it for the supercomputer folks... a niche market which is probably 10x larger and 100x more profitable than the propeller-beanie AMD fanboy crowd that trolls around here, scoffing at neon-illumiation-free chassis.
When you match that with their server options AMD are wiping the floor with Intel at almost every level.
Retail Desktop - Intel Server - Intel
Corporate Desktop - Intel Mobile - Intel
AMD is making headway in retail and server (intel has squat on their roadmap).
However, AMD is making much less on the segments they are competing in. Server is high ASP, but very low volume. Retail desktop is high volume, and razor thin ASP.
AMD needs to focus on being competitive in price to dominate corporate desktop (Intel's fab capacity means they can easily underprice AMD in this arena). Everyone keeps quoting the CPU price for a boxed part, but that is the HIGHEST POSSIBLE PRICE Intel will charge for a CPU. It can be 50-60-70% cheaper per CPU for high volume corporate sales. AMD is fukked in this area because in 30 years, they have still failed to even come close to Intel's volume. AMD hasn't had enough R&D dollars to compete here, but that can change.
And AMD also needs a competitive part in mobile, where the volume is growing every year and ASPs are sky high. This is where Intel is focusing. AMD is years behind Intel in mobile power-miserly processors.
So it is shaping up to be an interesting battle. Lets see if AMD can hang on to their lead this time.
Wait: if you said there are four billion locations, and then you say computers can do billions of things a second, why can't a computer search all locations in 4 seconds instead of days, like you said?
I also know a lot of mechanics who drive tricked out, oh excuse me, pimped out or monster cars and obsess about meaningless details (THC 4 speed better than Mopar! No way, my chevy 350 smallblock will bury your hemi!) Nitrous bottles? Bored over engines? How exactly is this good advice to someone looking for a reliable fuel efficient car? Most mechanics obsess about performance cars and have zero grasp of practicality.
The PC service industry and the Car service industry are staffed by the same kind of folk: non-college-degree white men who are obsessed with meaningless details and tricked out chassis.
My favorite is when mechanics disagree with the engineering manuals and claim to "know better" than the designers. That cracks me up.
> Intelligent Design, in its simplest form, really means order and complexity don't > spontaneously happen. It doesn't mean science is invalid, just the opposite.
Intelligent Design absolutely is anti-science.
It says, "This is too complicated to understand, the designer made it."
I'm sure Steve is upset that he just lost 0.0000001% of his consumer base.
Yes, we all see the irony comparing today with Job's vitriolic hatred of Intel when he returned to Apple in the 90's, but this is starting to turn into a Chevy vs. Mopar vs. THC discussion about transmissions. CPUs are such a commodity and so hard for the typical user (and even the advanced user) to see any notable perf difference in CPU, that it all comes down to what they look like (status-y Apples), or how cheap they are (Ma Joad's Discount PC Hut Special: Free Bowl of Soup with every PC!)
I used to be pissed off at the contradictions, but there's no point wasting energy being angry at business decisions made by executive boards at the cost of billions paid to countless promoters, advertisers and analysts. Arguing of CPUs is like arguing about how much it would hurt to be poked in the eye with a blunt stick: pointless. (Ba-dum-bum, ching.)
Please point me in the direction of the next technology to become a commodity. That's what I want to start watching.
Yes, this is redundant, but I just want to help make the chorus louder:
NORTON SUCKS.
January of last year I set up a test platform and installed all of the AV programs recommended by the microsoft link page (you know, the page it sends you to when you install XP without AV software)?
Panda, McAfee, Norton, F-Secure, and two others. They all sucked except F-Secure. It just sits there and quietly does its job -- No bullshit menus or intrusions or dialogs that won't go away. (Hell, Panda even put an icon on my xp LOGIN screen that wouldn't go away after de-install).
I think this is one of those cases when redundancy is essential.
When I say "revolutionary" I'm referring to a flame war that started when I asked the same question weeks ago. A barrage of posters were telling me how fantastic this thing would be, but no one could say how.
Your comment sort of leans that way, by emphasizing the connectedness of the gadget.
If the makers of this thing want to say, "Gee, we really don't know what kids will do with it, but I'm sure they'll figure something out", fine. But to read their website, FAQ, and wiki page, it feels like a big fluffy marketing campaign that will solve hunger, poverty and illness in these nations.
Like I said, I'm patiently waiting for some examples of why this is such a big deal. Maybe they will be $100 text messaging boxes... Maybe they will be used like dry erase boards for classes, where kids can stay at home to attend... I dunno, I just wish the developers knew and would tell us.
...will we see a group of, oh, 20 or 30 kids get these, open the box, and do something with them? I revisited TFWebsite, and even the Wiki page is completely devoid of softare. I'm still waiting to see exactly what these things will do. Seriously, I want to see a study where they give a few dozen kids brand new boxes and show me how the peer2peer is going to revolutionize things.
I remember being this excited about Ginger (aka Segway), and Transmeta's plans to dominate the CPU world. I'd like to hope there's some new concept behind this, but it is very fuzzy, even after reading the Business and BBC articles. I don't even know what to get my hopes up about yet.
Patiently waiting for some substance. I guess I'm just not a smart as everyone who is frothing at the mouth at how this is going to be so revolutionary.
I used to write jacket copy for Prima publishing ($100 a pop!), and jacket authors never read the book! You just skim it, pick up some big words, get to know the TOC, look for a few important concepts, and big-bang-boom, you're done in about 1~2 hours.
Don't judge a book by its cover, because the people that write the covers are idiots (yes, that means me).
I wonder if the dinner ended with a touching monologue by Spencer Tracy about the subtle complexities of facing one's racist upbringing, as a teary-eyed Katherin Hepburn glazed over in the background...
Except that Bush lied about it to the American public. From the whitehouse website via salon.com:
[["Now, by the way," he said, "any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think 'Patriot Act,' constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution."
That certainly seems to be different from what Bush is saying now -- that over the past three years, he has authorized and repeatedly reauthorized the "interception" of communications without warrants.]]
Judging by the number of links you've sent out, clearly you understand this much better than I ever could. My knuckles reach so far to the floor I can barely Google, unlike you.
But don't worry, though - your ignorance is amusing.
So is your desperate attempts to convince me how much smarter you are than me.
Please send more links. I think I can almost grasp the enormity of your staggering intellect with my barely-simian cortex.
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Maybe they just make it for the supercomputer folks... a niche market which is probably 10x larger and 100x more profitable than the propeller-beanie AMD fanboy crowd that trolls around here, scoffing at neon-illumiation-free chassis.
I wonder how many of those accidents were caused by some yokel and a gas-powered trencher from The Home Depot?
When you match that with their server options AMD are wiping the floor with Intel at almost every level.
Retail Desktop - Intel
Server - Intel
Corporate Desktop - Intel
Mobile - Intel
AMD is making headway in retail and server (intel has squat on their roadmap).
However, AMD is making much less on the segments they are competing in. Server is high ASP, but very low volume. Retail desktop is high volume, and razor thin ASP.
AMD needs to focus on being competitive in price to dominate corporate desktop (Intel's fab capacity means they can easily underprice AMD in this arena). Everyone keeps quoting the CPU price for a boxed part, but that is the HIGHEST POSSIBLE PRICE Intel will charge for a CPU. It can be 50-60-70% cheaper per CPU for high volume corporate sales. AMD is fukked in this area because in 30 years, they have still failed to even come close to Intel's volume. AMD hasn't had enough R&D dollars to compete here, but that can change.
And AMD also needs a competitive part in mobile, where the volume is growing every year and ASPs are sky high. This is where Intel is focusing. AMD is years behind Intel in mobile power-miserly processors.
So it is shaping up to be an interesting battle. Lets see if AMD can hang on to their lead this time.
Thank you for the armchair pre-Economincs 101 analysis.
First time arguing as a Libertarian?
Yeah, I know, I was just teasing. :')
Yes, but Nvidia or ATI components would require more cooling.
Wait: if you said there are four billion locations, and then you say computers can do billions of things a second, why can't a computer search all locations in 4 seconds instead of days, like you said?
See how complicated this discussion becomes....
Bad example. Mechanics are way out of touch.
I also know a lot of mechanics who drive tricked out, oh excuse me, pimped out or monster cars and obsess about meaningless details (THC 4 speed better than Mopar! No way, my chevy 350 smallblock will bury your hemi!) Nitrous bottles? Bored over engines? How exactly is this good advice to someone looking for a reliable fuel efficient car? Most mechanics obsess about performance cars and have zero grasp of practicality.
The PC service industry and the Car service industry are staffed by the same kind of folk: non-college-degree white men who are obsessed with meaningless details and tricked out chassis.
My favorite is when mechanics disagree with the engineering manuals and claim to "know better" than the designers. That cracks me up.
Finally, someone with a brain. Good post.
> Intelligent Design, in its simplest form, really means order and complexity don't
> spontaneously happen. It doesn't mean science is invalid, just the opposite.
Intelligent Design absolutely is anti-science.
It says, "This is too complicated to understand, the designer made it."
Last time I checked, that ain't since, sonny boy.
I'm sure Steve is upset that he just lost 0.0000001% of his consumer base.
Yes, we all see the irony comparing today with Job's vitriolic hatred of Intel when he returned to Apple in the 90's, but this is starting to turn into a Chevy vs. Mopar vs. THC discussion about transmissions. CPUs are such a commodity and so hard for the typical user (and even the advanced user) to see any notable perf difference in CPU, that it all comes down to what they look like (status-y Apples), or how cheap they are (Ma Joad's Discount PC Hut Special: Free Bowl of Soup with every PC!)
I used to be pissed off at the contradictions, but there's no point wasting energy being angry at business decisions made by executive boards at the cost of billions paid to countless promoters, advertisers and analysts. Arguing of CPUs is like arguing about how much it would hurt to be poked in the eye with a blunt stick: pointless. (Ba-dum-bum, ching.)
Please point me in the direction of the next technology to become a commodity. That's what I want to start watching.
Yes, this is redundant, but I just want to help make the chorus louder:
NORTON SUCKS.
January of last year I set up a test platform and installed all of the AV programs recommended by the microsoft link page (you know, the page it sends you to when you install XP without AV software)?
Panda, McAfee, Norton, F-Secure, and two others. They all sucked except F-Secure. It just sits there and quietly does its job -- No bullshit menus or intrusions or dialogs that won't go away. (Hell, Panda even put an icon on my xp LOGIN screen that wouldn't go away after de-install).
I think this is one of those cases when redundancy is essential.
But pork chops are so cheap! Are you suggesting the government invest in pork belly futures to offset the glut of would-be time travellers?
Mmmmm... pork chops...
Then: Microsoft sucks because they use file extensions!
Now: Microsoft sucks because they don't use file extentions!
scitsofrenic => schizophrenic
Damn IM and text-messaging are rotting the kids' brains these days.
Bah!
Grumble grumble grumble.
I agree with you.
When I say "revolutionary" I'm referring to a flame war that started when I asked the same question weeks ago. A barrage of posters were telling me how fantastic this thing would be, but no one could say how.
Your comment sort of leans that way, by emphasizing the connectedness of the gadget.
If the makers of this thing want to say, "Gee, we really don't know what kids will do with it, but I'm sure they'll figure something out", fine. But to read their website, FAQ, and wiki page, it feels like a big fluffy marketing campaign that will solve hunger, poverty and illness in these nations.
Like I said, I'm patiently waiting for some examples of why this is such a big deal. Maybe they will be $100 text messaging boxes... Maybe they will be used like dry erase boards for classes, where kids can stay at home to attend... I dunno, I just wish the developers knew and would tell us.
...will we see a group of, oh, 20 or 30 kids get these, open the box, and do something with them? I revisited TFWebsite, and even the Wiki page is completely devoid of softare. I'm still waiting to see exactly what these things will do. Seriously, I want to see a study where they give a few dozen kids brand new boxes and show me how the peer2peer is going to revolutionize things.
I remember being this excited about Ginger (aka Segway), and Transmeta's plans to dominate the CPU world. I'd like to hope there's some new concept behind this, but it is very fuzzy, even after reading the Business and BBC articles. I don't even know what to get my hopes up about yet.
Patiently waiting for some substance. I guess I'm just not a smart as everyone who is frothing at the mouth at how this is going to be so revolutionary.
I used to write jacket copy for Prima publishing ($100 a pop!), and jacket authors never read the book! You just skim it, pick up some big words, get to know the TOC, look for a few important concepts, and big-bang-boom, you're done in about 1~2 hours.
Don't judge a book by its cover, because the people that write the covers are idiots (yes, that means me).
I wonder if the dinner ended with a touching monologue by Spencer Tracy about the subtle complexities of facing one's racist upbringing, as a teary-eyed Katherin Hepburn glazed over in the background...
Here's a link to back you up:
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/politics/20fbi.
Except that Bush lied about it to the American public. From the whitehouse website via salon.com:
[["Now, by the way," he said, "any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think 'Patriot Act,' constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution."
That certainly seems to be different from what Bush is saying now -- that over the past three years, he has authorized and repeatedly reauthorized the "interception" of communications without warrants.]]
Just one comment:
Firefly --> ~12 episodes
Futurama --> 72 episodes (or 36 1-hour episodes to be fair)
This may be a reason why futurama is more lucrative.
Go back a few posts, Professor Fallacy: I never received an answer to my original question.
Q: "What does it do?"
A: "Everything and anything, you silly little fool! How dare you question the establishment that MIT are the gods of all knowledge! Begone!"
Although I wonder at the prudence of insulting simians thus.
Nice cop out.
Just answer the original question with substance, and not loads of lofty fanboy horseshit.
This is as pathetic as the Transmeta Flamewars of the late 90's. It was real fun watching TM go down a few years later.
Judging by the number of links you've sent out, clearly you understand this much better than I ever could. My knuckles reach so far to the floor I can barely Google, unlike you.
But don't worry, though - your ignorance is amusing.
So is your desperate attempts to convince me how much smarter you are than me.
Please send more links. I think I can almost grasp the enormity of your staggering intellect with my barely-simian cortex.
Wow, what a load of horseshit you just piled up.
You = Fanboy + Academic
The worst combination, neither understands "fluff".