"Do you really, seriously, truthfully believe that the Nanny State banning big sodas won't prevent soda addicts from... drum roll please... buying two of them?"
Sounds to me like you are both equally confident in your hypothetical conclusions. Typical partisan close-mindedness.
Get over it. People are fucking stupid and need to be babysat otherwise they eat themselves to death and we have to pay for their end of life care, even though, ironically, that same health-safety net was designed for people who really need help.
Are you defending Monsanto, or just pointing out that the 400+ patent violation cases instigated by Monsanto that are in the judicial system (as of 1999) and are NOT public record don't count as "monsanto up and suing people"? We can't tell if they are cross-pollenation cases becasue they aren't public record due to uncertain influence of Monsanto at the local level:
I agree that contract violation is illegal (saving seed and all that). Have you stopped to consider why they sign these contracts that don't allow them to save seed, and force them to buy more each year at increasing prices? Jeez, I'd have to have a gun pointed to my head to sign something so ludicrous./sarcasm
I also agree that it should be illegal to extort people into having no choice but to buy from Monsanto or go broke. Because I'm sure you can google, and I'm sure you can find limitless cases where Monsanto bullies and threatens farmers.
don't worry about cross-pollenation with organic farms: monsanto will just sue the farm out of business if they detect Monsanto DNA in the crops, then buy the land and expand their business.
Let's ask the target audience of a psychological disorder if they believe in it?
Because if there's one thing people are great at (especially adolescent boys and grown man-children) it is saying to themselves, "Hm, I might actually have a problem."
It wouldn't matter that much to me because unless the content served up on my iPhone is designed for a mobile platform, it is almost impossible tor read, so I prefer the APP to the browser. as long as it is free, that is.
occasionally i do need to go to a website, and it is kind of a hellish experience because the sites I need to go to (local store's hours, phone #) are written for a desktop browser.
so unless the browser can magically convert a poorly designed website into something readable in a mobile format, it won't make a difference. (i'm also assuming mom&pop shops on the interwebz won't shell out cash for two platform designs, since they are still using flashing fonts and high-contrast tiled gif backgrounds.. ugh)
oddly, i was trying to think of the last thing i pirated, and i haven't pirated software since probably 1997. fortunately my company gives me a laptop with MS office on it. feels kinda weird, I guess, to be legit. because i remember looking for copies of autocad, proengineer, 3dstudio max, and photoshop back in the 90's. i remember getting a lot of stuff off zurich.ai.mit.edu via ftp.
jeez, not even games. oh wait, i tried to pirate doom3 off... limewire? shit, i can't remember, it was a napster clone... but i ended up downloading a warez trojan and never did that again.
> You need to find a more convincing argument than "a mob told me so".
I'm not trying to change your mind or convince you. In fact, I told you the exact opposite: change the law if you don't like it. Did you miss my point entirely? I'm just saying that you're in the minority, and in the realm of invented moralities, that's "wrong". (even though "right" and "wrong" is utterly meaningless in issues of subjectivity).
How people react does mean jack shit. Because we as a society agree on it. And society generally has empathy and compassion. (Note I said "generally".)
If you think victims of bullying or harassment don't need protection, get together enough people and change the laws. I recommend watching Fox News, reading Drudge, and voting republican, but I'm sure you already do. Also might want to invest in a Tricorn and Tetley stock.
But right now, on this largely subjective issue, society agrees that you are wrong.
I was just about to comment on this, but you caught it. I've been to plenty seminars and class on being trans. I am cis-gendered, but I find the entire topic fascinating. No one, absolutely non one in any of these gatherings would ever dream of using the term "shemale." I can't speak for any trans person, or claim to know what any or every single one is thinking, but I finding HIGHLY unlikely she is OK with that label.
two extremely, extremely intelligent engineers i work with think the earth is ~4000 years old. yes, they are brilliant when it comes to circuits and fab process and rtl, but they are young-earth creationists.
why does this announcement surprise anyone other than fox news, who will now use this guy as street cred for the teabaggers?/shakes head/
And I wasn't trying to make things sounds simple, lol!
I have a kneejerk reaction when people start blaming a subset of the poor/obese demo that literally has no choice but to eat shit foot.
Another side of the coin, like you point out, is middle-class/upper-class obesity. I'm right there with you: There's no effing excuse for these fatties. I know genetics play a real role in obesity, but I haven't seen any compelling data that it is more than just a few % of the problem (e.g., there were obese folks during the great depression, or in the famine-stricken appalacians.) Seriously, if you live in a burb where every mile you hit a grocery store, a taco bell, McD's and tanning salon, haul your lazy ass into the store and buy a salad instead of the supersized tacoburgercombo. Take that priveleged free time and walk for 30 minutes a day rather than watching another episode of Jersey Cunts or Bridezillas... Damn, now I'm angry.
Anyway, yes, I only went after one aspect of the obesity problem: issues in poverty areas. But there are many more as you point out.
Wait, did you just compare Japan and America and then blame americans? Odd logic.
And white rice spikes insulin production, so its not "healthier" than pasta in most regards, unless it is highly refined pasta that has lost a great deal of vitamins and needs to be fortified. But generally japanese eat smaller rice portions compared to america's pasta portions, so the insulin spike probably isn't that big.
But living in japan with 3 convenience stores and 2 supermarkets in walking distance???/jealous
You're looking at it from a perspective of great privilege.
For example: do you have a grocery story in your neighborhood that cells vegetables? That is assumption #1 most people don't realize. Impoverished areas have quick-e-marts, because why would a grocery chain with fresh produce open in a ghetto?
Second: if you didn't have a car, how long would it take for you to get to the nearest grocery store? What about if the nearest store was outside your ghetto, and took 1-hour both ways on public transportation (because funding is being cut for busses). That's 2 hours of travel and 30 minutes of shopping out of your day.
Are you even strong enough to carry all of the groceries yourself (a family of 4's weekly groceries are pretty damn heavy if you don't have a car and have to change busses to get home).
What if you worked two jobs, when do you have 2.5 hours free?
And then time to cook?
Being privileged makes it really easy to throw stones from your high horse. Try taking a closer look
Heh, one could point the the utter failure of the "Us" festival in the 80's, I think he get's a lifetime "titanhood" pass if you look at the sheer # of problems he had to solve to make the Apple 1 & 2 work:...an expansion bus and it's own (open) electrical and logical specification...affordable 5.25" disk i/o (this alone would be a single major accomplishment for one hacker)...his creative use of banked video memory to display high resolutions (280x192 was considered hi-res back then)...and an F'ing basic interpreter in less than 8KB of ROM!!!
the fact that one person knocked a home run with all of these at the time earned him a pass.
I mean, just think of lack of resources and debug hardware: he couldn't google ApNotes or datasheets, he couldn't google for other problems people have (look at the arduino forums, now imagine developing without those). there were no digital storage scopes! he did it all by brute force of intelligence.
yeah, i gotta admit i'm a total fanboy. i'm barely qualified to praise the man.
Woz is pretty much a failure as a business owner. Yes, he's an engineering titan, a legend even, but why he should be taken seriously in a domain where he has an awful track record is beyond me.
Kinda like the Greek government asking Mario Batalli for financial advice...
"Organic" pertaining to food also refers to production methods consistent with sustainability, not just reduction of carcinogenic pesticide use.
While I also partake in the joys of shooting down uneducated neohippies who shell out money without a skeptical eye toward marketing (re: "all natural"), it's almost impossible to rationally defend industrial agriculture as a peer to certified organic farming. I know you weren't doing that, but it sounded like you may be headed down that path, so I offer my unsolicited comment.
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"Do you really, seriously, truthfully believe that the Nanny State banning big sodas won't prevent soda addicts from... drum roll please... buying two of them?"
Sounds to me like you are both equally confident in your hypothetical conclusions. Typical partisan close-mindedness.
Get over it. People are fucking stupid and need to be babysat otherwise they eat themselves to death and we have to pay for their end of life care, even though, ironically, that same health-safety net was designed for people who really need help.
This will cost us all less in the long run.
Shhhh! This is how the privileged get to sleep at night! Don't ruin it for them!
Elbert Dallas Thomason
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Monsanto-Beats-LA-Farmer.htm
Why would a mysterious agriculture department sprout up months after Monsanto threatens a local farmer and illegally takes samples of his crops?
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-4048288.html
Or going after the infrastructure that non-Monsanto farmers require to make a living:
http://www.gmwatch.org/gm-videos/6-must-see-videos/12161-monsanto-vs-seed-cleaner-moe-parr
Are you defending Monsanto, or just pointing out that the 400+ patent violation cases instigated by Monsanto that are in the judicial system (as of 1999) and are NOT public record don't count as "monsanto up and suing people"? We can't tell if they are cross-pollenation cases becasue they aren't public record due to uncertain influence of Monsanto at the local level:
http://grist.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/cfsmonsantovsfarmerreport1.13.05.pdf
I agree that contract violation is illegal (saving seed and all that). Have you stopped to consider why they sign these contracts that don't allow them to save seed, and force them to buy more each year at increasing prices? Jeez, I'd have to have a gun pointed to my head to sign something so ludicrous. /sarcasm
I also agree that it should be illegal to extort people into having no choice but to buy from Monsanto or go broke. Because I'm sure you can google, and I'm sure you can find limitless cases where Monsanto bullies and threatens farmers.
many people will buy it without caring. people still eat fast food, right?
unlikely:
look at mcdonalds...
look at cigarettes...
look at crack...
(am I too many decades off with the crack joke?)
those are proven killers and people consume them by the ton (well, except for crack).
don't worry about cross-pollenation with organic farms: monsanto will just sue the farm out of business if they detect Monsanto DNA in the crops, then buy the land and expand their business.
lol.
actually.... /cry/
Hey, I know:
Let's ask the target audience of a psychological disorder if they believe in it?
Because if there's one thing people are great at (especially adolescent boys and grown man-children) it is saying to themselves, "Hm, I might actually have a problem."
Yeah, they're just great at that.
yay, just what i want to do: download a dozen or more browsers and try all my wesbsites on them.
i can't possibly think of a more productive use of my time than evaluating them.
Yay for sarcasm friday! :-)
This is a thinly veiled attempt to put Python on the same level as R. /shakes head/
It wouldn't matter that much to me because unless the content served up on my iPhone is designed for a mobile platform, it is almost impossible tor read, so I prefer the APP to the browser. as long as it is free, that is.
occasionally i do need to go to a website, and it is kind of a hellish experience because the sites I need to go to (local store's hours, phone #) are written for a desktop browser.
so unless the browser can magically convert a poorly designed website into something readable in a mobile format, it won't make a difference. (i'm also assuming mom&pop shops on the interwebz won't shell out cash for two platform designs, since they are still using flashing fonts and high-contrast tiled gif backgrounds.. ugh)
oddly, i was trying to think of the last thing i pirated, and i haven't pirated software since probably 1997. fortunately my company gives me a laptop with MS office on it. feels kinda weird, I guess, to be legit. because i remember looking for copies of autocad, proengineer, 3dstudio max, and photoshop back in the 90's. i remember getting a lot of stuff off zurich.ai.mit.edu via ftp.
jeez, not even games. oh wait, i tried to pirate doom3 off ... limewire? shit, i can't remember, it was a napster clone... but i ended up downloading a warez trojan and never did that again.
so... yay me? i guess...
huh.
Ah, missed that. That makes sense, as I noticed your English was a little oblique to begin with. Thanks for clarifying!
> You need to find a more convincing argument than "a mob told me so".
I'm not trying to change your mind or convince you. In fact, I told you the exact opposite: change the law if you don't like it. Did you miss my point entirely? I'm just saying that you're in the minority, and in the realm of invented moralities, that's "wrong". (even though "right" and "wrong" is utterly meaningless in issues of subjectivity).
How people react does mean jack shit. Because we as a society agree on it. And society generally has empathy and compassion. (Note I said "generally".)
If you think victims of bullying or harassment don't need protection, get together enough people and change the laws. I recommend watching Fox News, reading Drudge, and voting republican, but I'm sure you already do. Also might want to invest in a Tricorn and Tetley stock.
But right now, on this largely subjective issue, society agrees that you are wrong.
I was just about to comment on this, but you caught it. I've been to plenty seminars and class on being trans. I am cis-gendered, but I find the entire topic fascinating. No one, absolutely non one in any of these gatherings would ever dream of using the term "shemale." I can't speak for any trans person, or claim to know what any or every single one is thinking, but I finding HIGHLY unlikely she is OK with that label.
Isn't that the same as deficit spending, kinda like the US?
two extremely, extremely intelligent engineers i work with think the earth is ~4000 years old. yes, they are brilliant when it comes to circuits and fab process and rtl, but they are young-earth creationists.
why does this announcement surprise anyone other than fox news, who will now use this guy as street cred for the teabaggers? /shakes head/
That's a good point, about privelege and obesity.
And I wasn't trying to make things sounds simple, lol!
I have a kneejerk reaction when people start blaming a subset of the poor/obese demo that literally has no choice but to eat shit foot.
Another side of the coin, like you point out, is middle-class/upper-class obesity. I'm right there with you: There's no effing excuse for these fatties. I know genetics play a real role in obesity, but I haven't seen any compelling data that it is more than just a few % of the problem (e.g., there were obese folks during the great depression, or in the famine-stricken appalacians.) Seriously, if you live in a burb where every mile you hit a grocery store, a taco bell, McD's and tanning salon, haul your lazy ass into the store and buy a salad instead of the supersized tacoburgercombo. Take that priveleged free time and walk for 30 minutes a day rather than watching another episode of Jersey Cunts or Bridezillas... Damn, now I'm angry.
Anyway, yes, I only went after one aspect of the obesity problem: issues in poverty areas. But there are many more as you point out.
Wait, did you just compare Japan and America and then blame americans? Odd logic.
And white rice spikes insulin production, so its not "healthier" than pasta in most regards, unless it is highly refined pasta that has lost a great deal of vitamins and needs to be fortified. But generally japanese eat smaller rice portions compared to america's pasta portions, so the insulin spike probably isn't that big.
But living in japan with 3 convenience stores and 2 supermarkets in walking distance??? /jealous
You're looking at it from a perspective of great privilege.
For example: do you have a grocery story in your neighborhood that cells vegetables? That is assumption #1 most people don't realize. Impoverished areas have quick-e-marts, because why would a grocery chain with fresh produce open in a ghetto?
Second: if you didn't have a car, how long would it take for you to get to the nearest grocery store? What about if the nearest store was outside your ghetto, and took 1-hour both ways on public transportation (because funding is being cut for busses). That's 2 hours of travel and 30 minutes of shopping out of your day.
Are you even strong enough to carry all of the groceries yourself (a family of 4's weekly groceries are pretty damn heavy if you don't have a car and have to change busses to get home).
What if you worked two jobs, when do you have 2.5 hours free?
And then time to cook?
Being privileged makes it really easy to throw stones from your high horse. Try taking a closer look
Heh, one could point the the utter failure of the "Us" festival in the 80's, I think he get's a lifetime "titanhood" pass if you look at the sheer # of problems he had to solve to make the Apple 1 & 2 work: ...an expansion bus and it's own (open) electrical and logical specification ...affordable 5.25" disk i/o (this alone would be a single major accomplishment for one hacker) ...his creative use of banked video memory to display high resolutions (280x192 was considered hi-res back then) ...and an F'ing basic interpreter in less than 8KB of ROM!!!
the fact that one person knocked a home run with all of these at the time earned him a pass.
I mean, just think of lack of resources and debug hardware: he couldn't google ApNotes or datasheets, he couldn't google for other problems people have (look at the arduino forums, now imagine developing without those). there were no digital storage scopes! he did it all by brute force of intelligence.
yeah, i gotta admit i'm a total fanboy. i'm barely qualified to praise the man.
Woz is pretty much a failure as a business owner. Yes, he's an engineering titan, a legend even, but why he should be taken seriously in a domain where he has an awful track record is beyond me.
Kinda like the Greek government asking Mario Batalli for financial advice...
"Organic" pertaining to food also refers to production methods consistent with sustainability, not just reduction of carcinogenic pesticide use.
While I also partake in the joys of shooting down uneducated neohippies who shell out money without a skeptical eye toward marketing (re: "all natural"), it's almost impossible to rationally defend industrial agriculture as a peer to certified organic farming. I know you weren't doing that, but it sounded like you may be headed down that path, so I offer my unsolicited comment.
Gah! /fail