Not to defend the people who brought us The Real World and The Hills (the sense of disgust I feel even have typed the name of that show is so gorss and profound that I have thought of killing myself, but that would probably make the news which would bring more publicity to that show, which would bring forth the further decline of western civilization, honestly I am doing you all a favor by staying alive), but don't they censor most business names? Or at least censor business names that aren't paying for the right to have their name aired on MTV, or might sue MTV if they don't like the way their name is being used.
Goodness knows for a long time I was never sure what sort of bathroom Humpty Hump got busy in until I head the the uncensored version and realized he was saying "Burger King".
Of course not, if you ordered one a couple of months ago you would already have it. Instead of madly lining up at some retail shop to buy your new piece of hip candy (and then still have to take the damn thing home to activate it), you can order it and wait for it to be delivered to your door.
Apple does make good products, but they also are very adept at engineering a crowd to harness for marketing purposes.
So you are saying that to fix a problem with procedure where someone (or some group) was obviously either breaking, misinterpreting, or ignoring the existing law (ballots postmarked by x date WILL be counted), is to stop doing things in a way that works as designed so long as no party is trying to actively break, misinterpret, or ignore the law by replacing it with an untested, unverifiable, expensive way of doing things that will PROBABLY work so long as some party isn't trying to actively break, misinterpret, or ignore the law?
But how does this set up save any money? It's not like there has been a huge public outcry for more automated voting systems. It seems like someone got some money to buy a flashy new toy to to the job that could have been done in a safe and verifiable manner with paper ballots.
Most implementations of electronic voting are flawed because they don't provide a way to verify that a person honestly voted a certain way. It's super messed up because the right is pushing to automation and validation and the left is pushing for anonymity and privacy and the compromise we have been getting is usually of dubious quality.
I know there is some kind of page click metric that people get paid on, but honestly, would it hurt to put a list on the first page so I don't have to try to click through a site that is probably already getting hammered.
How does the state rationalize the cost of a Kiosk for 5 or 6 hundred voters? Part of automation is recognizing when it is not cost effective (or sensical) to install an automated solution.
Have you ever done tech support for the general public? There are tons of legitimately side splittingly crazy people out there that I am sure you are crushing by calling their ravings spam.
"Be well advised that my last email contains information about the persons that this script was, in fact, not written for. this section contains authorizations as to ensure that authorizations would work. Also be advised that the infromation therein is no longer valid."
I dunno, I think that was a direct reference to the Microsoft Windows XP EULA.
I drive through financially prosperous areas and depressed areas, and while there are assholes everywhere, the thickest concentration of them seems to be in your more well to do areas.
I think if you drive a circles around Seattle on I-5 and loop back around on 405 a couple of times you may start agreeing with me.
T-mobile will let you can unlock a Sidekick. I have no personal experience with AT&T but a googling has told me that they at least used to use Sim cards and therefore should be usable on AT&T.
I have used T-mobile for years because they are the least bastardy carrier that I have a choice to use. As nice as it might be to have an iPhone, I won't switch carriers to have one, and I prefer not to void a warranty that I can't afford to shrug off.
Lawyers and Accountants have certification processes that make anything in IT look like Junior High. One could argue that an interview IS a test for a Sales person and an HR person as their medium is people. Our livelihood relies on ability and willingness and I don't think think it's inappropriate to ask for some proof of either.
In our line of work there are people who can and can't. Those who are the former can be divided into into those who will and won't.
Where I work we ask potential hires to write a subroutine, usually one to find the area of a circle. We even give the formula and do not put a restriction on language so long as someone here can grok it.
You would be shocked how many people can't do this.
If you are too much of a princess to prove you know something it is certainly for the best that you don't work with me.
I am not sure where you are getting your "upgrade" terminology from in this case. Apple sells an operating system. I looked through a couple of product listings on Apple and Best Buy's sites and see no mention of "Upgrade", hardware requirements, nor any mention of a previous purchase.
Also, if I purchase your software, how am I copying it?
If you sell your software at Best Buy your darn tootin that I can. At that point I am simply providing a service of building a cheap PC with two NICs and installing your Software which I payed you for. We both make money and you should take the money you made with almost no effort to the bank and kindly stfu.
You don't even have to offer support as support probably only comes with your hardware anyway.
"The sale is premised on the existing possession of a Mac, but this is nothing new. Upgrades are always sold in this manner; it's not unique to software, either."
I simply don't think that Apple can ride this pony both ways. I don't think that they will be able to have easy retail sales with their hardnose hardware tactics. It is one thing when you tightly control who get's your software, as many vendors do in enterprise software. It is another thing entirely to take a product that is readily available to purchase almost anywhere and say that it can only be used in a certain way. Courts have proven these post purchase EULAs to be insufficient and I don't see that changing much in this case.
"It is not immoral or illegal to set the terms under which you will or will not sell something. It further is not incumbent on that party to devise a foolproof system--the argument that an individual can buy one off the shelf and finagle an installation out of the disc is not convincing. It's an argument that seems to be begging for invasive sales procedures and DRM. Apple offers owners of its computers a good product at a low price and trusts consumers to honor that."
I disagree. What I do with what I purchase should be of no concern to anyone but myself, my wife and my parole officer (my wife). The problem with DRM is that you end up assuming that everyone wants to steal from you. These practices lead to less people wanting to buy your products and more people looking for ways to steal them. Here Apple is once again trying stymie itself by refusing to take money that people want to give to legitimately give to them. They could have a much larger market share if they would just concentrate on doing what they do well, which is bringing desirable products to market, and ignore issues like these which are a simply a matter of control.
What I am saying is that there is nothing to stop me from walking into the Apple store and paying for a copy of OSX and I don't own an Apple (computer). How is that theft and how does me paying them for their labors hurt their business?
That was before they were really running on commodity hardware. When an Mac was a physically different piece of hardware from an abstract perspective (different processor, running a different instruction set) they could more easily make the case, since they've flipped to the 86 platform, I don't think their case will be as strong.
I just can't help but wonder if Apples case will be weakened by the fact that they switched to X86 architecture. When the first Mac clones came out they were the only ones doing anything with PowerPC chips so it was a bit easier to lock things down, but now any 15 year old with enough money and attention span can probably get OSX running on (probably carefully selected) commodity hardware.
This is enormous waste of time. I vote to redirect that 10Gbps line to my house and we can split the 12 mil on beer.
Putting this in a little bit of perspective. 12 Million isn't really all that much money when you consider the cost of a data center, or even a fair size building.
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Welcome to to Slashdot, sonny. Getting bitter about it will worsen your inevitable heartache and sirosis of the liver.
Anymore I am just tickled when someone wastes there mod points on me by modding me up or down. At least someone is reading.
On topic, this sounds like the preamble to a bad comic book.
Probably mostly the same. I guess I just never look at grep as much more than something to pipe something else into.
I use xargs with grep all the time.
ls | xargs grep foo
Not to defend the people who brought us The Real World and The Hills (the sense of disgust I feel even have typed the name of that show is so gorss and profound that I have thought of killing myself, but that would probably make the news which would bring more publicity to that show, which would bring forth the further decline of western civilization, honestly I am doing you all a favor by staying alive), but don't they censor most business names? Or at least censor business names that aren't paying for the right to have their name aired on MTV, or might sue MTV if they don't like the way their name is being used.
Goodness knows for a long time I was never sure what sort of bathroom Humpty Hump got busy in until I head the the uncensored version and realized he was saying "Burger King".
Of course not, if you ordered one a couple of months ago you would already have it. Instead of madly lining up at some retail shop to buy your new piece of hip candy (and then still have to take the damn thing home to activate it), you can order it and wait for it to be delivered to your door.
Apple does make good products, but they also are very adept at engineering a crowd to harness for marketing purposes.
So you are saying that to fix a problem with procedure where someone (or some group) was obviously either breaking, misinterpreting, or ignoring the existing law (ballots postmarked by x date WILL be counted), is to stop doing things in a way that works as designed so long as no party is trying to actively break, misinterpret, or ignore the law by replacing it with an untested, unverifiable, expensive way of doing things that will PROBABLY work so long as some party isn't trying to actively break, misinterpret, or ignore the law?
But how does this set up save any money? It's not like there has been a huge public outcry for more automated voting systems. It seems like someone got some money to buy a flashy new toy to to the job that could have been done in a safe and verifiable manner with paper ballots.
Most implementations of electronic voting are flawed because they don't provide a way to verify that a person honestly voted a certain way. It's super messed up because the right is pushing to automation and validation and the left is pushing for anonymity and privacy and the compromise we have been getting is usually of dubious quality.
I know there is some kind of page click metric that people get paid on, but honestly, would it hurt to put a list on the first page so I don't have to try to click through a site that is probably already getting hammered.
How does the state rationalize the cost of a Kiosk for 5 or 6 hundred voters? Part of automation is recognizing when it is not cost effective (or sensical) to install an automated solution.
Someone in Florida has the techno-madness.
Have you ever done tech support for the general public? There are tons of legitimately side splittingly crazy people out there that I am sure you are crushing by calling their ravings spam.
"Be well advised that my last email contains information about the persons that this script was, in fact, not written for. this section contains authorizations as to ensure that authorizations would work. Also be advised that the infromation therein is no longer valid."
I dunno, I think that was a direct reference to the Microsoft Windows XP EULA.
Non-sequitors, false accusations, pointless drivel, and complete misunderstandings. How do you not see how this is related to Slashdot.
Your inflatable sheep is in the post.
I drive through financially prosperous areas and depressed areas, and while there are assholes everywhere, the thickest concentration of them seems to be in your more well to do areas.
I think if you drive a circles around Seattle on I-5 and loop back around on 405 a couple of times you may start agreeing with me.
You must live in a red state.
T-mobile will let you can unlock a Sidekick. I have no personal experience with AT&T but a googling has told me that they at least used to use Sim cards and therefore should be usable on AT&T.
I have used T-mobile for years because they are the least bastardy carrier that I have a choice to use. As nice as it might be to have an iPhone, I won't switch carriers to have one, and I prefer not to void a warranty that I can't afford to shrug off.
I wish for your last paragraph to come true.
If the BOFH excuse server told me to.
Lawyers and Accountants have certification processes that make anything in IT look like Junior High. One could argue that an interview IS a test for a Sales person and an HR person as their medium is people. Our livelihood relies on ability and willingness and I don't think think it's inappropriate to ask for some proof of either.
In our line of work there are people who can and can't. Those who are the former can be divided into into those who will and won't.
Where I work we ask potential hires to write a subroutine, usually one to find the area of a circle. We even give the formula and do not put a restriction on language so long as someone here can grok it.
You would be shocked how many people can't do this.
If you are too much of a princess to prove you know something it is certainly for the best that you don't work with me.
I am not sure where you are getting your "upgrade" terminology from in this case. Apple sells an operating system. I looked through a couple of product listings on Apple and Best Buy's sites and see no mention of "Upgrade", hardware requirements, nor any mention of a previous purchase.
Also, if I purchase your software, how am I copying it?
If you sell your software at Best Buy your darn tootin that I can. At that point I am simply providing a service of building a cheap PC with two NICs and installing your Software which I payed you for. We both make money and you should take the money you made with almost no effort to the bank and kindly stfu.
You don't even have to offer support as support probably only comes with your hardware anyway.
I seriously don't see what the beef is.
"The sale is premised on the existing possession of a Mac, but this is nothing new. Upgrades are always sold in this manner; it's not unique to software, either."
I simply don't think that Apple can ride this pony both ways. I don't think that they will be able to have easy retail sales with their hardnose hardware tactics. It is one thing when you tightly control who get's your software, as many vendors do in enterprise software. It is another thing entirely to take a product that is readily available to purchase almost anywhere and say that it can only be used in a certain way. Courts have proven these post purchase EULAs to be insufficient and I don't see that changing much in this case.
"It is not immoral or illegal to set the terms under which you will or will not sell something. It further is not incumbent on that party to devise a foolproof system--the argument that an individual can buy one off the shelf and finagle an installation out of the disc is not convincing. It's an argument that seems to be begging for invasive sales procedures and DRM. Apple offers owners of its computers a good product at a low price and trusts consumers to honor that."
I disagree. What I do with what I purchase should be of no concern to anyone but myself, my wife and my parole officer (my wife). The problem with DRM is that you end up assuming that everyone wants to steal from you. These practices lead to less people wanting to buy your products and more people looking for ways to steal them. Here Apple is once again trying stymie itself by refusing to take money that people want to give to legitimately give to them. They could have a much larger market share if they would just concentrate on doing what they do well, which is bringing desirable products to market, and ignore issues like these which are a simply a matter of control.
If they sell it over the counter we are. :-)
What I am saying is that there is nothing to stop me from walking into the Apple store and paying for a copy of OSX and I don't own an Apple (computer). How is that theft and how does me paying them for their labors hurt their business?
That was before they were really running on commodity hardware. When an Mac was a physically different piece of hardware from an abstract perspective (different processor, running a different instruction set) they could more easily make the case, since they've flipped to the 86 platform, I don't think their case will be as strong.
I just can't help but wonder if Apples case will be weakened by the fact that they switched to X86 architecture. When the first Mac clones came out they were the only ones doing anything with PowerPC chips so it was a bit easier to lock things down, but now any 15 year old with enough money and attention span can probably get OSX running on (probably carefully selected) commodity hardware.
Let's not forget about Broken Transport while we are talking about Apple's software flubs.
This is enormous waste of time. I vote to redirect that 10Gbps line to my house and we can split the 12 mil on beer.
Putting this in a little bit of perspective. 12 Million isn't really all that much money when you consider the cost of a data center, or even a fair size building.