Great, so who is going to change first? The incumbant, with plenty of existing users and infrastructure, or the corporate new guy with inflexible policy?
I had a decent connection to several other sites (including in the UK). I didn't bother to trace or do quantiative QOS checks, since since "the Beeb" (wtf?) seemed to be the only one affected.
A, I said don't mod me up. I'm at the cap already. B, it took almost 60 seconds to load up, and several of the images timed out. That's generally what happens when a beautiful server turns to molten metal.
No, I mean what you heard first. The idea about automatically allowing requests for authentication through came to mind briefly, but was soon replaced with thoughts of spammers sending more html-and-gif-laden spams showing the kinds of cool ads I can get if I just authenticate them . . oh never mind it was just a one time mailing any way.
Forget work use. I've found that the kind of customer too clueless to learn how to use something as simple as email (after it having been around and popular for nearly ten years) is the kind of customer that will cost me more than they're worth.
Damn lameness filter, wtf is a 'junk' character, and where are they in this post?
That's the theory anyway. But many DVD player manufacturers have borrowed the concept of "cheat codes" from the video games industry to enable retailers or buyers to alter their machines to play DVDs from any region, rendering Region Coding completely ineffective.
DVD manufacturers' cheat codes are made up of combinations of button presses on the machine's remote control. When entered correctly, users are presented with a "secret" menu inviting them to reset the DVD player to "multi-region" - to play discs from all regions.
How are these cheat codes distributed? Although the manufacturers don't print them in their instruction manuals, they are made available directly or indirectly to retailers who often include the cheat codes on a photocopied slip of paper in the packaging, or publish them on the Internet.
Endre Lock, UK sales manager of CyberHome, a German company selling DVD players which can easily be turned into multi-region players, says the firm does not officially acknowledge its players are multi-region for legal reasons.
"We don't ship them as multi-region any more because we got into trouble. When you buy one of our DVD players now it is set to the right region for the country it is sold in," he says.
"If you find codes to make it multi-regional then good luck to you - it's not our responsibility. You can find codes for more or less all brands of DVD player including ours."
When asked where codes for CyberHome products can be found he cited a website where they are available.
CyberHome is by no means unusual - the evidence is that the sale of multi-region-capable DVD players in the UK is extremely widespread, according to Graham Sharpless, a member of the UK DVD Committee, a trade association for the video publishing industry within the UK.
"In practice, most if not all DVD players sold in the UK can be made to play discs from other regions and many, perhaps most, do," he says. "This does not mean that manufacturers are shipping players that are multi-region, but that they can be modified by retailers, or can be made multi-region by the user." Lord of the Rings has been UK's fastest selling DVD
Although Region Coding was a key plank in the film companies' strategy to maintain control of their products when released on DVD, industry sources suggest they are already admitting defeat, and a new system is emerging called Regional Code Enhancement.
This system adds another layer of security to select Region One discs - preventing them from being played on region-free DVD players.
But a more likely scenario is that Region Coding will be abandoned altogether, Mr Sharpless hinted.
"The whole issue of region coding is now somewhat irrelevant as the release windows in USA and Europe are getting closer," he says. If this happens then DVD owners will finally be able to buy films whenever and wherever they choose.
Some of your comments so far:
Your article does not mention that many DVD players are sold as multi-region, labelled as "universal". There are £99 players out there such as Alba that play discs from any region without any codes at all. Nathan, UK
RCE stops any DVD player that is set to play all regions from playing a DVD from a specific region. There is an easy way round this, instead of turning you DVD into multi region (Region Zero) you simply set it to be specifically Region One. William Adams, UK
When the European Union Copyright Directive (EUCD) is incorportated into UK law in the next few months, many of the DVD hacking activities described in the article will become criminal offences. You might be OK keying the codes into your own DVD player, but tell other folks how to do it and you could be in big trouble. Richard Simpson, UK
The really annoying thing for me is that region 2 discs sold here in Germany are cheaper than in UK but often have permanent German language subtitles on the English soundtrack. Hollywood will have its revenge! Al, Germany (ex-UK)
I see nothing wrong with DVD hacking. Indeed, my cheap DVD player has a secret menu that even disables the "Macrovision" copy protection - allowing me to pipe my DVD source around the house and/or onto tape without the copy protection scrambling the signal! Steve England, UK
Unlike the mp3 issue, where people are effectively stealing copyrighted material, a person buying a region 1 DVD in the UK is still paying the company that produced it. Therefore, region coding is simply a transparently obvious attempt to ensure that consumers outside the USA are forced to pay higher prices. Steve, UK
Your portrayal of multi-region DVD players is a little innacurrate. The facility to change the region is simply put into the players at the factory stage in order for the manufacturer to have a single manufacturing process for players sold in all six DVD regions. The remote 'hacking' is simply a way for the engineers to regionalise the players prior to selling. Keith Farmer, England
Hollywood fixed the DVD market so films could only be played in the region they were purchased. But viewers got round it with "cheat codes" and now the system is on the verge of collapse.
American film studios are rapidly learning what computer software makers found out long ago: people will always find a way to get around almost any systems put in place to restrict the copying or distributing of digital products Digital Versatile Discs (DVDs) can store digital copies of films, and a great deal of time and money has been spent trying to devise a way to ensure their use can be controlled. A key part of this is the Region Coding system, which is designed to stop European film buffs buying DVDs in America.
This is now on the point of being abandoned because so many DVD manufacturers have deliberately undermined the system.
The attraction of buying DVDs on the other side of the Atlantic is clear: not only are they usually considerably cheaper, but more importantly films are available on DVD in America up to a year before they appear on disc in Europe, and often before they have even been released in the cinema here.
The Region Coding system works by dividing the world into six regions, with the United States in Region One and the UK in Region Two. DVD players sold in any region can only play DVDs from the same region, so a film bought on DVD in the USA (Region One) won't play on a DVD player bought in the UK (Region Two).
[inset] The world in DVD regions
Region One: US, Canada
Region Two: Europe, Japan, South Africa, Middle East
Region Three: Southeast Asia, East Asia
Region Four: Australia, New Zealand, Central and South America
Region Five: Eastern Europe, Indian subcontinent, Africa
Another solution would be to automatically whitelist anyone you send email to. So, when you send a mail to mary, it adds her email address to your list, allowing her auth message through.
Why do we need to have a national ID? Why not just a federal minimum standard for ID cards, like data field locations, orientation, picture type, etc?
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The problem I've found with this is the stink factor. If I bike to work (or to the bus stop), I'll sweat (I'm not THAT fat, I'm in Houston). When I get to work I need to change, and either quickly dirty a clean suit, or have to locate a shower. I can't find a shower near my office.
Tape? Last time I heard, advertisements paid for stuff. I expect broadcast TV free, because it's laden with advertisements (pays for the distribution costs, so I don't have to - I may opt out at any time by not watching TV). The logic following, then, is why don't you get paid for watching those advertisements? I mean, you've already covered the costs of production and distribution for the disc by paying up front.
That's funny, because I've had the damndest time trying to get someone to look at my step father's abusive habits. They say there's not enough information to go on, despite my willingless to testify, under oath, that I've seen him beat up children.
"Russell said high-grain diets may cause other problems in cattle, such as bloating. He estimates that approximately three of every 1,000 cattle in feedlots die of grain-related disorders.
The beauty of this is that most beef cattle don't live long enough for it to matter.
And this whole concept of the "terminator" seed, one that only grows once, and the seed it produces is sterile. I don't think I'm being alarmist whey I say I'm very concerned about those kinds of seeds being introduced in the wild. Who is to say it wouldn't cross-breed with "normal" plants and keep them from reproducing?
The beauty of this is that the affected crops die out quickly. Say, before the beginning of the next growing season.
Slashdot Mirror
I caught that too. You beat me to the post. But still, WTF?
Great, so who is going to change first? The incumbant, with plenty of existing users and infrastructure, or the corporate new guy with inflexible policy?
Interesting. Well, the mirror I got appeared to be dying.
I had a decent connection to several other sites (including in the UK). I didn't bother to trace or do quantiative QOS checks, since since "the Beeb" (wtf?) seemed to be the only one affected.
If you're going to attempt to assert your personal dictionary as official, at least use your name, so we know whose dictionary to go by.
A, I said don't mod me up. I'm at the cap already. B, it took almost 60 seconds to load up, and several of the images timed out. That's generally what happens when a beautiful server turns to molten metal.
No, I mean what you heard first. The idea about automatically allowing requests for authentication through came to mind briefly, but was soon replaced with thoughts of spammers sending more html-and-gif-laden spams showing the kinds of cool ads I can get if I just authenticate them . . oh never mind it was just a one time mailing any way.
Forget work use. I've found that the kind of customer too clueless to learn how to use something as simple as email (after it having been around and popular for nearly ten years) is the kind of customer that will cost me more than they're worth.
Damn lameness filter, wtf is a 'junk' character, and where are they in this post?
That's the theory anyway. But many DVD player manufacturers have borrowed the concept of "cheat codes" from the video games industry to enable retailers or buyers to alter their machines to play DVDs from any region, rendering Region Coding completely ineffective.
DVD manufacturers' cheat codes are made up of combinations of button presses on the machine's remote control. When entered correctly, users are presented with a "secret" menu inviting them to reset the DVD player to "multi-region" - to play discs from all regions.
How are these cheat codes distributed? Although the manufacturers don't print them in their instruction manuals, they are made available directly or indirectly to retailers who often include the cheat codes on a photocopied slip of paper in the packaging, or publish them on the Internet.
Endre Lock, UK sales manager of CyberHome, a German company selling DVD players which can easily be turned into multi-region players, says the firm does not officially acknowledge its players are multi-region for legal reasons.
"We don't ship them as multi-region any more because we got into trouble. When you buy one of our DVD players now it is set to the right region for the country it is sold in," he says.
"If you find codes to make it multi-regional then good luck to you - it's not our responsibility. You can find codes for more or less all brands of DVD player including ours."
When asked where codes for CyberHome products can be found he cited a website where they are available.
CyberHome is by no means unusual - the evidence is that the sale of multi-region-capable DVD players in the UK is extremely widespread, according to Graham Sharpless, a member of the UK DVD Committee, a trade association for the video publishing industry within the UK.
"In practice, most if not all DVD players sold in the UK can be made to play discs from other regions and many, perhaps most, do," he says. "This does not mean that manufacturers are shipping players that are multi-region, but that they can be modified by retailers, or can be made multi-region by the user."
Lord of the Rings has been UK's fastest selling DVD
Although Region Coding was a key plank in the film companies' strategy to maintain control of their products when released on DVD, industry sources suggest they are already admitting defeat, and a new system is emerging called Regional Code Enhancement.
This system adds another layer of security to select Region One discs - preventing them from being played on region-free DVD players.
But a more likely scenario is that Region Coding will be abandoned altogether, Mr Sharpless hinted.
"The whole issue of region coding is now somewhat irrelevant as the release windows in USA and Europe are getting closer," he says. If this happens then DVD owners will finally be able to buy films whenever and wherever they choose.
Some of your comments so far:
Your article does not mention that many DVD players are sold as multi-region, labelled as "universal". There are £99 players out there such as Alba that play discs from any region without any codes at all.
Nathan, UK
RCE stops any DVD player that is set to play all regions from playing a DVD from a specific region. There is an easy way round this, instead of turning you DVD into multi region (Region Zero) you simply set it to be specifically Region One.
William Adams, UK
When the European Union Copyright Directive (EUCD) is incorportated into UK law in the next few months, many of the DVD hacking activities described in the article will become criminal offences. You might be OK keying the codes into your own DVD player, but tell other folks how to do it and you could be in big trouble.
Richard Simpson, UK
The really annoying thing for me is that region 2 discs sold here in Germany are cheaper than in UK but often have permanent German language subtitles on the English soundtrack. Hollywood will have its revenge!
Al, Germany (ex-UK)
I see nothing wrong with DVD hacking. Indeed, my cheap DVD player has a secret menu that even disables the "Macrovision" copy protection - allowing me to pipe my DVD source around the house and/or onto tape without the copy protection scrambling the signal!
Steve England, UK
Unlike the mp3 issue, where people are effectively stealing copyrighted material, a person buying a region 1 DVD in the UK is still paying the company that produced it. Therefore, region coding is simply a transparently obvious attempt to ensure that consumers outside the USA are forced to pay higher prices.
Steve, UK
Your portrayal of multi-region DVD players is a little innacurrate. The facility to change the region is simply put into the players at the factory stage in order for the manufacturer to have a single manufacturing process for players sold in all six DVD regions. The remote 'hacking' is simply a way for the engineers to regionalise the players prior to selling.
Keith Farmer, England
I have plenty of karma. Don't mod me, just read.
Border controls crumble in DVD land
DVDs can be cheated with a normal remote control
By Paul Rubens
Hollywood fixed the DVD market so films could only be played in the region they were purchased. But viewers got round it with "cheat codes" and now the system is on the verge of collapse.
American film studios are rapidly learning what computer software makers found out long ago: people will always find a way to get around almost any systems put in place to restrict the copying or distributing of digital products
Digital Versatile Discs (DVDs) can store digital copies of films, and a great deal of time and money has been spent trying to devise a way to ensure their use can be controlled. A key part of this is the Region Coding system, which is designed to stop European film buffs buying DVDs in America.
This is now on the point of being abandoned because so many DVD manufacturers have deliberately undermined the system.
The attraction of buying DVDs on the other side of the Atlantic is clear: not only are they usually considerably cheaper, but more importantly films are available on DVD in America up to a year before they appear on disc in Europe, and often before they have even been released in the cinema here.
The Region Coding system works by dividing the world into six regions, with the United States in Region One and the UK in Region Two. DVD players sold in any region can only play DVDs from the same region, so a film bought on DVD in the USA (Region One) won't play on a DVD player bought in the UK (Region Two).
[inset]
The world in DVD regions
Region One: US, Canada
Region Two: Europe, Japan, South Africa, Middle East
Region Three: Southeast Asia, East Asia
Region Four: Australia, New Zealand, Central and South America
Region Five: Eastern Europe, Indian subcontinent, Africa
Region Six: China
[/inset]
Another solution would be to automatically whitelist anyone you send email to. So, when you send a mail to mary, it adds her email address to your list, allowing her auth message through.
Too easy to trace. You'll probably be sued. Kinda like when your neighbor sued you for telling him he forgot to close his car's door one evening.
Why do we need to have a national ID? Why not just a federal minimum standard for ID cards, like data field locations, orientation, picture type, etc?
The problem I've found with this is the stink factor. If I bike to work (or to the bus stop), I'll sweat (I'm not THAT fat, I'm in Houston). When I get to work I need to change, and either quickly dirty a clean suit, or have to locate a shower. I can't find a shower near my office.
Perhaps he did, and just wants to appear witty?
Why do all these diamond sites have flash movies instead of web pages? I need information, not cheap entertainment.
a clean kill. And when I checked it, it had 0 posts. That was FAST.
It's gone. Too many jpegs? No mirror, no google cache, no nada. Just gone.
Tape? Last time I heard, advertisements paid for stuff. I expect broadcast TV free, because it's laden with advertisements (pays for the distribution costs, so I don't have to - I may opt out at any time by not watching TV). The logic following, then, is why don't you get paid for watching those advertisements? I mean, you've already covered the costs of production and distribution for the disc by paying up front.
That's funny, because I've had the damndest time trying to get someone to look at my step father's abusive habits. They say there's not enough information to go on, despite my willingless to testify, under oath, that I've seen him beat up children.
Consider this a virtual beer. :)
I was trying to be funny. I really am not an asshole, in fact I usually tell someone something like that while I'm buying them a beer.
No, it leads to the question. It does not beg the question.
So unplug the MSDOS controller instead.