You would build them a bit smaller and lighter and launch about 20 at a time or more. It wouldn't be one to one. Still expensive but not outrageous. We blow 80 billion a year on Iraq. A mission for about 20 rovers should be able to be kept below about 4 billion.
This is the same question I keep asking since the rovers success. I would have thought with the plans they had, you could mass produce them and save a lot on costs. Then send an army of them to mars or the moon. Students at various universities and even amateur scientists could help with planning or requests for various places to search.
Instead they came up with the idea that we should switch to manned missions again and it will take 10-20 years.
The robots are already can already do alot of the exploring for us. We should be launching robotic missions to the moons around Jupiter and more robotic missions to Mars, lots of them.
Not one or two every three years, send 10-100 at minimum.
I agree that neither method is very secure as-is. One needs to take action to keep everything secure like encrypting it. Online is _more_ secure in terms of backups and virus protection for the mojority of mom and pop users.
I would only consider it viable if Google had a way to have the stuff encrypted while online. It would be great to see them come up with a better way than there is now to access and save things online securely. Unfortunately that is probably a few years off though:-).
Having your documents online is more conveniant and more secure. You wouldn't have to pass them around to all the different PC's you use. It is more secure because most at home users computers are riddled with virus's and spyware. A good online office solution is why Google's stock price is so high. They may or may not get there but if anyone has the tools and business culture to do it would be Google. To accomplish a good online Office Suite one would have to play well with others in the standards department and be willing to give some control away. Neither of which Microsoft is capable of doing.
I was wondering if there was some documentation on how you all went about doing the conversion? Like more documentation on the CSS work for people to learn from it.
Republicans won't use it as evidence against global warming but they are already using this report as propaganda to discredit scientists. Drudge had a link just a few minutes ago stating: "SCIENTISTS WARN OF CLIMATE CHANGES -- ON MARS!..."
The more they can discredit scientists the easier it is for them to just make up science, which they do all the time.
I had thought using vegetable oil in a Diesel engine took some special processing to get it to work. However I now know it doesn't. My buddy took and converted an old Mercede's diesel into a diesel/or vegetable oil car. Kit to do it costs about 700 bux it cost him about 300. The hoses are expensive because you need to keep vegetable oil warmer in the winter than diesel fuel. Get's real thick. Anyway it costs restaurants money to dispose of vegetable oil so they will give it away for free. If enough demand comes for it I am sure it won't be free anymore but right now it is free. So now he has a car that he can run for pretty cheap. You need to have filters being that it is used vegetable oil but it does work.
Having recently watched a few shows and read some articles on the nuclear weapons used in Japan, I got to thinking nuke's are almost a purely terroristic weapon.
If you use them against terrorists you have very little chance of getting them. Even if you hit the city they are in most will survive. In Japan some girls working in a bank less than a mile from where the bomb went off are still alive to talk about it. Key to their survival was not drinking the toxic rain that fell afterwards.
The bomb creates tremendous heat and on large populated areas is so terrifying (terroristic weapon) that it scares your enemy into surrender. Which is exactly why we used them against the Japanese.
Anyway I just think the principles of the United States and what we advertise to the world should not be "we have nuke's and we can use them at a moments notice", but instead be "we want to help create a world where it is clear to everyone that fascist, expansionist empires are not a good idea and will not be tolerated".
Being a fascist, expansionist regime ourselves is not what the United States is about IMHO.
One could create a pass for the water to go through Central America instead of pooling (and warming) in the Carribean.
However, that might change the global climate to the point we kill all the life on earth we need to survive as well. Whose willing to give it a shot?
This all boils down to the need for better computer modeling. While the modeling we have is good, we need it to accurately determine the side effects. It will probably not be that good in our lifetime's.
It would actually make good business sense to hire ESR and listen to him. Right now Google and Apple are both gearing up to make a real run at MS and MS is really concentrating on all the wrong things. If they don't change their strategy they will be done in 5-10 years. Done as in not mattering and not having majority market share. Because if they are not willing to play nice there are a lot of really big companies with really big wallets all lined up to do just that: to respect their customers and their business partners.
Finally, as others have pointed out, Hydrogen merely carries the energy, you still have to generate the energy by burning fossil fuels, running nuclear reactors, setting up windmills, or some other means, and how that energy generation is done will determine the effect on the climate.
Sorry but I find it pretty silly people think it important to point out H is only an energy carrier. Fossil fuels only carry energy as well, and they take a lot longer to get the energy stored in them and are a lot dirtier getting the energy out.
As we move towards being a Type 1 civilization over the next couple hundred years we would be wise to start using Hydrogen as the storage medium as soon as possible.
Is the state of education and big oil propaganda in the world really so bad that all we get out of discussions on energy sources now is "H is only a carrier" and "H20 is a greenhouse gas"? I think we can do better than that.
I am with you on having real penalties to get kids to stay in school.
Living near Philadelphia where over 50% of the students don't graduate High School, I think our National Guard troops would make the world a better place by making these kids stay in school and graduate than being over seas.
50% not graduating in this area is going to cause much more violence and problems at home than Iraq ever will or could have. If you don't believe me check the local news on crime rate's around Philadelphia, it is practicly a war zone in some areas.
It would be much more than important. It would be the biggest discovery in the history of humanity.
Why?
Because if we know there are even a few cells living off of Earth that there is just such a vast expanse to the Universe that this would mean life was everywhere.
While it seems completely logical life would be everywhere, without the proof of it somewhere else, we just don't know.
With how many galaxies there are out there, and knowing life is so common that a planet right next to us also has it, it changes everything.
The Drake Equation getting an increase in the propensity of life elsewhere from it being next door would be profound. You can actually plug into that equation this event. Every extra planet we would find in our solar system increases the number of likely civilized societies able to communicate in our galaxy by 1000.
So if Mars has life, it is very likely a few moons of Jupiter would, and maybe Titan in some fashion. This would mean there may be thousands of civilazations in our own galaxy able to communicate.
When I lived on the West Coast (Las Vegas) I quit going to any showing that would have a significant group of people watching. The audience was always ruining the movies.
Now that I live on the East Coast this doesn't happen. If a baby is crying or someone is making a distubance the audience drives them out of the theater or shuts them up quickly. Sucks it has to come to that, but it does work.
Religion or anything to do with religion is the last thing on this administration's mind. What is on their mind?
Greed, power and money.
That is our foreign policy now and it is quite sickening. Problem is that the Dem's and Repug's have the same foreign policy essentially. So it is going to be this way until we figure out how to get a real alternative into the mix.
I wonder how come they didn't just sell them first to kids who can't afford a home computer. Maybe they just wanted to see those greedy bastards all squish each other. Both seem like charity for the good of humanity to me.
The Japanese people were to be enlisted as human guinea-pigs for a scientific experiment.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were left out of the carpet bombing campaign so the destructive force of the nuclear bombs could be measured more effectively. Not having any conventional bomb destruction mixed in would make it easier to see what the nukes did. This is another reason so many civilians were outside as well in these towns. They weren't that worried about being hit. Up to this point they were relatively safe.
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If you were president and your approval rating was as low as his is now, your advisors would probably tell you to try to keep people scared to death too.
Doesn't make it any less rediculous but the guy doesn't have a lot of options left to salvage a good reputation in history.
In what areas do you think Microsoft can play nice with Linux and still make more money?
Areas being: file system interoperability, opening document formats, software interoperability, etc.
Because we can all wish these things would happen but until it is shown to Bill that these things will actually make more money, they will not be implemented.
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You would build them a bit smaller and lighter and launch about 20 at a time or more. It wouldn't be one to one. Still expensive but not outrageous. We blow 80 billion a year on Iraq. A mission for about 20 rovers should be able to be kept below about 4 billion.
This is the same question I keep asking since the rovers success. I would have thought with the plans they had, you could mass produce them and save a lot on costs. Then send an army of them to mars or the moon. Students at various universities and even amateur scientists could help with planning or requests for various places to search.
Instead they came up with the idea that we should switch to manned missions again and it will take 10-20 years.
The robots are already can already do alot of the exploring for us. We should be launching robotic missions to the moons around Jupiter and more robotic missions to Mars, lots of them.
Not one or two every three years, send 10-100 at minimum.
I agree that neither method is very secure as-is. One needs to take action to keep everything secure like encrypting it. Online is _more_ secure in terms of backups and virus protection for the mojority of mom and pop users.
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I would only consider it viable if Google had a way to have the stuff encrypted while online. It would be great to see them come up with a better way than there is now to access and save things online securely. Unfortunately that is probably a few years off though
They have professionals looking after their security and they are backed up. How are they not more secure?
Having your documents online is more conveniant and more secure. You wouldn't have to pass them around to all the different PC's you use. It is more secure because most at home users computers are riddled with virus's and spyware. A good online office solution is why Google's stock price is so high. They may or may not get there but if anyone has the tools and business culture to do it would be Google. To accomplish a good online Office Suite one would have to play well with others in the standards department and be willing to give some control away. Neither of which Microsoft is capable of doing.
I was wondering if there was some documentation on how you all went about doing the conversion? Like more documentation on the CSS work for people to learn from it.
Yes it is a PR stunt but the reasoning is China not new technologies.
Republicans won't use it as evidence against global warming but they are already using this report as propaganda to discredit scientists. Drudge had a link just a few minutes ago stating: "SCIENTISTS WARN OF CLIMATE CHANGES -- ON MARS!..."
The more they can discredit scientists the easier it is for them to just make up science, which they do all the time.
I had thought using vegetable oil in a Diesel engine took some special processing to get it to work. However I now know it doesn't. My buddy took and converted an old Mercede's diesel into a diesel/or vegetable oil car. Kit to do it costs about 700 bux it cost him about 300. The hoses are expensive because you need to keep vegetable oil warmer in the winter than diesel fuel. Get's real thick. Anyway it costs restaurants money to dispose of vegetable oil so they will give it away for free. If enough demand comes for it I am sure it won't be free anymore but right now it is free. So now he has a car that he can run for pretty cheap. You need to have filters being that it is used vegetable oil but it does work.
Having recently watched a few shows and read some articles on the nuclear weapons used in Japan, I got to thinking nuke's are almost a purely terroristic weapon.
If you use them against terrorists you have very little chance of getting them. Even if you hit the city they are in most will survive. In Japan some girls working in a bank less than a mile from where the bomb went off are still alive to talk about it. Key to their survival was not drinking the toxic rain that fell afterwards.
The bomb creates tremendous heat and on large populated areas is so terrifying (terroristic weapon) that it scares your enemy into surrender. Which is exactly why we used them against the Japanese.
Anyway I just think the principles of the United States and what we advertise to the world should not be "we have nuke's and we can use them at a moments notice", but instead be "we want to help create a world where it is clear to everyone that fascist, expansionist empires are not a good idea and will not be tolerated".
Being a fascist, expansionist regime ourselves is not what the United States is about IMHO.
One could create a pass for the water to go through Central America instead of pooling (and warming) in the Carribean.
However, that might change the global climate to the point we kill all the life on earth we need to survive as well. Whose willing to give it a shot?
This all boils down to the need for better computer modeling. While the modeling we have is good, we need it to accurately determine the side effects. It will probably not be that good in our lifetime's.
It would actually make good business sense to hire ESR and listen to him. Right now Google and Apple are both gearing up to make a real run at MS and MS is really concentrating on all the wrong things. If they don't change their strategy they will be done in 5-10 years. Done as in not mattering and not having majority market share. Because if they are not willing to play nice there are a lot of really big companies with really big wallets all lined up to do just that: to respect their customers and their business partners.
Hopefully other companies are not far behind. Cingular tried to rip me off more than any other company I have ever dealt with.
6 months of dealing with them and the Better Business Bureau, so much fun...
Finally, as others have pointed out, Hydrogen merely carries the energy, you still have to generate the energy by burning fossil fuels, running nuclear reactors, setting up windmills, or some other means, and how that energy generation is done will determine the effect on the climate.
Sorry but I find it pretty silly people think it important to point out H is only an energy carrier. Fossil fuels only carry energy as well, and they take a lot longer to get the energy stored in them and are a lot dirtier getting the energy out.
As we move towards being a Type 1 civilization over the next couple hundred years we would be wise to start using Hydrogen as the storage medium as soon as possible.
Is the state of education and big oil propaganda in the world really so bad that all we get out of discussions on energy sources now is "H is only a carrier" and "H20 is a greenhouse gas"? I think we can do better than that.
It really surprises me we don't bar Judges from political parties as well.
4 -iraqi-constitution-draft_x.htm)
Even the new proposed constitution for Iraq does this:
Article (96): It is forbidden for a judge or a member of the prosecution to:
1st --simultaneously hold a judicial position and a legislative or executive position or any other job.
2nd -- belong to any party or political organization or engage in any political activity.
(Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-08-2
I am with you on having real penalties to get kids to stay in school.
Living near Philadelphia where over 50% of the students don't graduate High School, I think our National Guard troops would make the world a better place by making these kids stay in school and graduate than being over seas.
50% not graduating in this area is going to cause much more violence and problems at home than Iraq ever will or could have. If you don't believe me check the local news on crime rate's around Philadelphia, it is practicly a war zone in some areas.
I would define the real world/artificial world application of all three over time to equal one's Wisdom, IMHO.
It would be much more than important. It would be the biggest discovery in the history of humanity.
Why?
Because if we know there are even a few cells living off of Earth that there is just such a vast expanse to the Universe that this would mean life was everywhere.
While it seems completely logical life would be everywhere, without the proof of it somewhere else, we just don't know.
With how many galaxies there are out there, and knowing life is so common that a planet right next to us also has it, it changes everything.
The Drake Equation getting an increase in the propensity of life elsewhere from it being next door would be profound. You can actually plug into that equation this event. Every extra planet we would find in our solar system increases the number of likely civilized societies able to communicate in our galaxy by 1000.
So if Mars has life, it is very likely a few moons of Jupiter would, and maybe Titan in some fashion. This would mean there may be thousands of civilazations in our own galaxy able to communicate.
When I lived on the West Coast (Las Vegas) I quit going to any showing that would have a significant group of people watching. The audience was always ruining the movies.
Now that I live on the East Coast this doesn't happen. If a baby is crying or someone is making a distubance the audience drives them out of the theater or shuts them up quickly. Sucks it has to come to that, but it does work.
Well said.
Religion or anything to do with religion is the last thing on this administration's mind. What is on their mind?
Greed, power and money.
That is our foreign policy now and it is quite sickening. Problem is that the Dem's and Repug's have the same foreign policy essentially. So it is going to be this way until we figure out how to get a real alternative into the mix.
I wonder how come they didn't just sell them first to kids who can't afford a home computer. Maybe they just wanted to see those greedy bastards all squish each other. Both seem like charity for the good of humanity to me.
The Japanese people were to be enlisted as human guinea-pigs for a scientific experiment.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were left out of the carpet bombing campaign so the destructive force of the nuclear bombs could be measured more effectively. Not having any conventional bomb destruction mixed in would make it easier to see what the nukes did. This is another reason so many civilians were outside as well in these towns. They weren't that worried about being hit. Up to this point they were relatively safe.
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What are you talking about?
If you were president and your approval rating was as low as his is now, your advisors would probably tell you to try to keep people scared to death too.
Doesn't make it any less rediculous but the guy doesn't have a lot of options left to salvage a good reputation in history.
In what areas do you think Microsoft can play nice with Linux and still make more money?
Areas being: file system interoperability, opening document formats, software interoperability, etc.
Because we can all wish these things would happen but until it is shown to Bill that these things will actually make more money, they will not be implemented.