I'm under the impression that as soon as some small company has a good idea it's researching, Microsoft tends to "snap" it up for themselves. Hence a wide-range of research areas.
I doubt they necessarily buy the company doing the research, but they probably exclusively fund it until it can be used in their products.
Raymond is a visible and vocal advocate of open-source software -- a radically different approach to software development that has produced, most famously, the Linux operating system, the Apache Web server, and the Perl scripting language.
So you people who were annoyed that Apache, as an Open-Source success, never got a mention seem to have been heard somewhere.
They will be real Linux apps. The will just look like Windows NT apps. Does anyone remember fvwm95? Not too long ago we were trying to make X look like Windows, now we abhore it. What is going on?
Oh and Quake is a really useful app, isn't it? Corporate Entities are going to flock to buy Quake licenses for all their employees are they?
This is not really an issue. I believe OS/2 emulated DOS and Windows then just ran on top of it. MainWin appears to actually use NT C++ source code in order to support the applications.
Also the programs here will be Linux runtime programs and not Windows runtimes. They will just have the Win32 look and feel (As long as the Window manager allows it:))
Does this mean that MS Internet Explorer will become available for Linux shortly?
A lot of the manufacturing that used to be done in Taiwan was moved to factories on the Chinese mainland, because of the lower cost of the work-force there. It's R&D, Marketing and Sales that tends to be done in Taiwan.
At least this is how it used to be 4 years ago when I left the industry there.
The first one was due to me being slightly overeager with the configuration settings and I left things in a real mess. It was therefore my fault.
The next time I don't know what happenned, X caught some signal or something and bombed out. I was then left at the shell prompt, I restarted X and everything was OK again.
The thrid time was a complete lockup, I couldn't do anything although if I'd had a network I could probably have telneted in and killed X to recover. Instead I crossed my fingers and hit that reset button.
At work I use NT I only have to go back a month to tell you about the last three crashes, which leave me no option but to remove the power cord from the back.
Also: Note that it isn't necessary to have a network or even a second PC. If you enable a virtual terminal on a serial port then you can use a PalmPilot to login and kill processes. I expect any PDA with a serial connection can be used to do the same.
I would say Embedded Applications have to be as robust as possible, because once you have embedded them, they have to work reliably all the time. You can't easily go in and re-install or make fine-tuning changes to the configuration.
I know the context was probably more towards transaction databases, but the spokesperson generalised his statement and then went on to allow it be quoted out-of-context.
Judging by your other posts, you seem to be fond of one liners, dispelling other peoples views. Why not justify you own ones with a bit more prose and we can enter into a dialogue.
It is strange. No one asked people to install Linux on corporate workstations, yet there is so much "DON'T DO IT" (you will turn into a pink elephant if you do) articles around the place at the moment.
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I don't like NT either, but ini files should only exist in WINNT for two reasons:
1. I have no problems with my ZIP drive 2. If you have hardware that isn't supported then you can't expect it to work 3. This problem is most probably related to (2) 4. Still a hardware problem
All your problems appear to be hardware related. You can only compare the two operating systems on hardware that both are at home with.
I understand you have problems with Linux, and am sure that you will get more advice from friendly sources about how to resolve them, which you have to admit, is a darn sight more than you would have from Microsoft.
"Linux does not have the robustness built in it yet for mission critical applications."
Why... thank you for your comment. Now can you tell me why you are using Embedded Linux Systems in your L and X ranges of HP Entria Thin Client stations and X-Terminals.
I don't have a modem, but from the picture of the Dreamcast "builtin" modem at http://www.sega.com/console/index.shtml is seems clear to me that it probably connects to a high speed serial port. It would be quite easy to develop something that interfaced to ethernet instead of a phone jack.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was something in the works at sega to put Dreamcasts on the LAN, but it's probably of secondary importance to them.
This is good, forge an alliance and fight against the common enemy.
You ask: What will they do when Linux is in place of Microsoft as the dominant operating system?
Well, come on, what can they do? This is the beauty of it all, all they can wait for is something better, and who's going to beat thousands of coders giving up free time to develop Linux into the best there is.
2. Installing Windows NT where it doesn't belong ...Install Windows NT in a partition or separate hard drive. Don't share it with another operating system, especially Windows 95/98...
...you'll end up sharing the \Program Files directory, which could be catastrophic for Internet Explorer, for instance. This is an easy one to avoid...
Absolutely, you see NT wasn't designed to co-operate with our own operating systems and our own software...
Regardless of the fact that NT installation suggests that you should install in the same folder as Windows so that you can share Program files. Administrators should know that this is a trick question, and should say no.
Obviously the aformentioned clauses are the silly things that protect the MCPs and MCSEs of this world and make the rest of us look silly.
... People make the mistake of letting Windows NT suggest the default Pagefile size for your system. This is the amount of memory in your system plus 12 megabytes. This just isn't sufficient for today's applications. As a result, your system will perform rather poorly in just about all cases...
Of course, we can't accept the default setting, we should know it's a stupid value. It will make NT slow all the time.
Arggghhh, so now I have 1500 NT workstations to make changes on...
10. Cloning Windows NT This is more for Windows NT network administrators who, if they are reading this, know exactly what I'm about to say. Many people make the mistake of using a cloning utility, such as Ghost, in order to make copies of Windows NT for their network computers. The problem is that every Windows NT installation has a unique number, a security identifier (SID). When multiple workstations have the same SID, there can be severe networking problems down the road. Note that I said could--as far as I know, there are very few, if any, concrete problems having to do with multiple SIDs. But that's not the problem. The trouble is that if you need support from Microsoft on a system that has been cloned, you're out of luck. They won't help you. You've been warned.
Don't feel bad if you've fallen into one or many of these traps. I've fallen into just about all of them myself, which is why I can speak about them. The key to success with Windows NT is knowing what you're getting into, and how to get out of it when you blow it. Heeding these tips can save you a huge amount of pain later.
No support from MS unless you pay them loads (I mean loads) of $$$ and become a Microsoft Select customer, then they will actually provide you with a utility to modify each NT machines SID. They will support you too, but you will still have to pay them for the support.
Yes very much so the case. and I did distinguish from the home market and the corporate market.
However:
Once reason Windows is used in the corporate market is that the users already have experience of it from home and hence there is little retraining required. And I am well aware of the cost of training especially in businesses where staff turnover is quite high.
This is where I base my premise that by infiltrating the games market you will make the "L" word more acceptable for the desktop in the corporate market. I'm not saying Linux is ready for the desktop and after having spent months on this I'm pretty sure it isn't, but isn't that on of the directions that we want to be heading in?
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I'm under the impression that as soon as some small company has a good idea it's researching, Microsoft tends to "snap" it up for themselves. Hence a wide-range of research areas.
I doubt they necessarily buy the company doing the research, but they probably exclusively fund it until it can be used in their products.
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In the UK the pricing is as follows:
£445 for Case
$50 for the processor Kit
£20 for delivery in the UK
add VAT @ 17.5% for these prices...
not cheap...
How many times:
Linux doesn't run on 286's - it requires a multitasking processor which a 286 isn't capable of.
Raymond is a visible and vocal advocate of open-source software -- a radically
different approach to software development that has produced,
most famously, the Linux operating system, the Apache Web server,
and the Perl scripting language.
So you people who were annoyed that Apache, as an Open-Source success, never got a mention seem to have been heard somewhere.
B&H still have the Royal Appointment seal of approval on their packets of cigarettes
Would Linux pick up the seal or would RedHat pick it up?
Lynx is hardly a useful alternative to Netscape.
They will be real Linux apps. The will just look like Windows NT apps. Does anyone remember fvwm95? Not too long ago we were trying to make X look like Windows, now we abhore it. What is going on?
Oh and Quake is a really useful app, isn't it? Corporate Entities are going to flock to buy Quake licenses for all their employees are they?
My understanding of the article tells me that this is not the same as WINE and nor is it an emulator.
WINE (Wine Is Not An Emulator either...)
* WINE runs Windows runtimes.
* MainWin runs UNIX runtimes created from Windows NT source code.
This is not really an issue. I believe OS/2 emulated DOS and Windows then just ran on top of it. MainWin appears to actually use NT C++ source code in order to support the applications.
:))
Also the programs here will be Linux runtime programs and not Windows runtimes. They will just have the Win32 look and feel (As long as the Window manager allows it
Does this mean that MS Internet Explorer will become available for Linux shortly?
Is there any point in us outside the US participating in this competition? I just wonder if the prizes are allowed to be exported from the US?
A lot of the manufacturing that used to be done in Taiwan was moved to factories on the Chinese mainland, because of the lower cost of the work-force there. It's R&D, Marketing and Sales that tends to be done in Taiwan.
At least this is how it used to be 4 years ago when I left the industry there.
How many times, as a percentage, is a user not being able to login attributable to getting cracked? 1%, maybe 2
I work in network support. It's got to be around 0.01%
I have been using Xfree since August 1995.
In that time I have had 3 X server crashes.
The first one was due to me being slightly overeager with the configuration settings and I left things in a real mess. It was therefore my fault.
The next time I don't know what happenned, X caught some signal or something and bombed out. I was then left at the shell prompt, I restarted X and everything was OK again.
The thrid time was a complete lockup, I couldn't do anything although if I'd had a network I could probably have telneted in and killed X to recover. Instead I crossed my fingers and hit that reset button.
At work I use NT I only have to go back a month to tell you about the last three crashes, which leave me no option but to remove the power cord from the back.
Also: Note that it isn't necessary to have a network or even a second PC. If you enable a virtual terminal on a serial port then you can use a PalmPilot to login and kill processes. I expect any PDA with a serial connection can be used to do the same.
I really like that - hey Rob, why not change the log for a day (April 1st) to Kreska Kropka.
I would say Embedded Applications have to be as robust as possible, because once you have embedded them, they have to work reliably all the time. You can't easily go in and re-install or make fine-tuning changes to the configuration.
I know the context was probably more towards transaction databases, but the spokesperson generalised his statement and then went on to allow it be quoted out-of-context.
Judging by your other posts, you seem to be fond of one liners, dispelling other peoples views. Why not justify you own ones with a bit more prose and we can enter into a dialogue.
It is strange. No one asked people to install Linux on corporate workstations, yet there is so much "DON'T DO IT" (you will turn into a pink elephant if you do) articles around the place at the moment.
I don't like NT either, but ini files should only exist in WINNT for two reasons:
1. badly coded applications
2. 16-bit applications
For all other cases you should use the registry, which you know has separate sections for each user and you shouldn't run 16-bit applications on NT.
1. I have no problems with my ZIP drive
2. If you have hardware that isn't supported then you can't expect it to work
3. This problem is most probably related to (2)
4. Still a hardware problem
All your problems appear to be hardware related. You can only compare the two operating systems on hardware that both are at home with.
I understand you have problems with Linux, and am sure that you will get more advice from friendly sources about how to resolve them, which you have to admit, is a darn sight more than you would have from Microsoft.
Quote the HP Spokesperson:
"Linux does not have the robustness built in it yet for mission critical applications."
Why... thank you for your comment. Now can you tell me why you are using Embedded Linux Systems in your L and X ranges of HP Entria Thin Client stations and X-Terminals.
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I don't have a modem, but from the picture of the Dreamcast "builtin" modem at http://www.sega.com/console/index.shtml is seems clear to me that it probably connects to a high speed serial port. It would be quite easy to develop something that interfaced to ethernet instead of a phone jack.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was something in the works at sega to put Dreamcasts on the LAN, but it's probably of secondary importance to them.
This is good, forge an alliance and fight against the common enemy.
:)
You ask: What will they do when Linux is in place of Microsoft as the dominant operating system?
Well, come on, what can they do? This is the beauty of it all, all they can wait for is something better, and who's going to beat thousands of coders giving up free time to develop Linux into the best there is.
Up the Revolution, viva Linux
2. Installing Windows NT where it doesn't belong
...Install Windows NT in a partition or separate hard drive. Don't share it with another operating system, especially Windows 95/98...
...you'll end up sharing the \Program Files directory, which could be catastrophic for Internet Explorer, for instance. This is an easy one to avoid...
Absolutely, you see NT wasn't designed to co-operate with our own operating systems and our own software...
Regardless of the fact that NT installation suggests that you should install in the same folder as Windows so that you can share Program files. Administrators should know that this is a trick question, and should say no.
Obviously the aformentioned clauses are the silly things that protect the MCPs and MCSEs of this world and make the rest of us look silly.
Grrrr.....
5. Using the wrong Pagefile size
... People make the mistake of letting Windows NT suggest the default Pagefile size for your system. This is the amount of memory in your system plus 12 megabytes. This just isn't sufficient for today's applications. As a result, your system will perform rather poorly in just about all cases...
Of course, we can't accept the default setting, we should know it's a stupid value. It will make NT slow all the time.
Arggghhh, so now I have 1500 NT workstations to make changes on...
Such a nice company to work with...
10. Cloning Windows NT
This is more for Windows NT network administrators who, if they are reading this, know exactly what I'm about to say. Many people make the mistake of using a cloning utility, such as Ghost, in order to make copies of Windows NT for their network computers. The problem is that every Windows NT installation has a unique number, a security identifier (SID). When multiple workstations have the same SID, there can be severe networking problems down the road. Note that I said could--as far as I know, there are very few, if any, concrete problems having to do with multiple SIDs. But that's not the problem. The trouble is that if you need support from Microsoft on a system that has been cloned, you're out of luck. They won't help you. You've been warned.
Don't feel bad if you've fallen into one or many of these traps. I've fallen into just about all of them myself, which is why I can speak about them. The key to success with Windows NT is knowing what you're getting into, and how to get out of it when you blow it. Heeding these tips can save you a huge amount of pain later.
No support from MS unless you pay them loads (I mean loads) of $$$ and become a Microsoft Select customer, then they will actually provide you with a utility to modify each NT machines SID. They will support you too, but you will still have to pay them for the support.
Arn't they such a nice company to deal with.
Yes very much so the case. and I did distinguish from the home market and the corporate market.
However:
Once reason Windows is used in the corporate market is that the users already have experience of it from home and hence there is little retraining required. And I am well aware of the cost of training especially in businesses where staff turnover is quite high.
This is where I base my premise that by infiltrating the games market you will make the "L" word more acceptable for the desktop in the corporate market. I'm not saying Linux is ready for the desktop and after having spent months on this I'm pretty sure it isn't, but isn't that on of the directions that we want to be heading in?