Most of the companies I've worked for simply wouldn't be able to exist given today's volumes.
Stock brokers, for instance, have been around for a long time writing stuff down - y'know, using PAPER. But they wouldn't be able to execute many trades that way today. (Of course, that might be a good thing!)
and if you're a consultant you pretty much have to have it to subcontract. So yeah, it costs $600/yr for $2M in insurance and then they can sue you if you accidentally delete a database or something.
Yeah, I've forgotten my old Blazer has this "feature" a few times because my other cars all beep or make some kinda fuss or just leave the parking lights on. Result: dead battery. Now I carry a battery booster so I can restart the damn thing.
It's nice to know I can light up the countryside in a libertarian way without an annoying buzzer going off to scare the deer, but a dead battery is a pain.
I've also posted three times as much as you, so by my standards you're the relative newbie.
Oh I see, more is better. Glad I don't have to look at your code.
Look, you're just trying to justify the attitude that says "you can't violate our agreement because we're good, but we can violate yours all we want because you're a corporate entity". Situational ethics or not, that's just bullshit.
Until you learn the difference between a group, Slashdot, and its individual members, you deserve to be ignored and down-moded
The message was a reply to the story posting, if you didn't notice; intended for the editors who posted the story and run the place and anyone else for whom the shoe fits.
You wouldn't want someone to get around the GPL on a technicality. If you want GPL'd code you need to abide by the rules. Likewise, if you want NY Times content you ought to abide by THEIR rules. "Big media", your paranoia about being tracked, etc. is irrelevant.
But, above all, remember that Slashdot is not a singular entity.
Excuse me, but if our account #'s are any indication I've been around here a lot longer than you have, so piss off. The GPL is all about ethics, but they seem to only matter if it's the GPL that's being violated. Real ethics don't work that way.
And if you think I give a flying rat's ass about the bullshit that passes for moderation around here then you've got another think coming. Real karma has nothing to do with Slashdot.
Why is it you guys don't want to acknowledge the NY Times for the article and abide by THEIR "license" agreement? I mean the license issues (re:GPL) are so important to Linux you spend hours arguing about minutia, but you feel free to skate around the NY Times quite reasonable (and free) requests. How hypocritical is that?
The F.B.I. has not yet found computer records or other documents left by the hijackers that help explain the plot. They say that there are few phone or other communications records showing that the four known hijacking groups communicated with each other.
Hell, if they didn't even use the phone much what's to say they used encrypted emails?
Why bother? You could just post it here as a troll or hidden in one of those stupid ASCII "art" posts.
If you disagree with the government then you are a nutcase and need to be locked in prison.
That statement pretty neatly summarizes why we need to be ever-vigilant for our freedoms, not just against foreign terrorists but also against idots like this.
Hey Mr. "We're at War", what changed Sept. 11? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The World Trade Center was attacked FIRST in '93! The USS Cole was just put back in the water. Since when is an attack on a warship net an attack on our military?
troll shit, when you fucking assholes grow up you'll realize the meaning of the word opinion, even when you disagree with it. Everything I wrote is factually true and in response to the original (off-topic!) message.
for the vast majority of you i was a moderator long before you found the place.
He's been indicted for a number of other terrorist acts already, we just don't convict people in absentia or it would have been done long ago.
undeniably bloated US ego, but I thought it would be nice to get a point of view from actual Americans
lemme see, we're the world's largest economy, brought the world (all the rest of which is full of supremely humble and morally-superior people) things like transistors, the telephone, TV, and possibly saved the world from the Nazi's... no, no reason for US to have a big ego I guess.
No, they were in a position to do that if it had gotten any farther but it went down instead. The passengers found out about the WTC via cell-hone and apparently decided that if they were going to die they'd go out on their own terms.
Hmm, well glad to hear it. I worked for 'em for 10 weeks. They were completely unethical bastards. Hired me for a 5 month contract, which turned out to be really 4 months, then pressured me to go on full-time at half my consulting rate. When I didn't take the deal they fired me, then used my 10 weeks of work to fulfill 1 yr contract with the NSA.
First, if they playing in GPL-land they should certainly play by the rules. That said...
Aren't you missing a piece here? If they give away what they did, nobody needs to buy it anyway. So how much could they lose? Nothing from nothing...
I'm sure I'll be modded down for pointing out this totally obvious economic issue with free software, but the reality is it's difficult to make a lot of (read: any) money off of something you give away, I don't care what it is. In their case (unlike most others) they probably could make some money on support, but most of the guys doing real-time stuff are pretty resourceful by definition.
Many people think that Linux needs an Office clone to gain acceptance, but the truth is that monolithic software is not the future.
In principle I agree, but as others have pointed out much of MS software IS small pieces that work together. But more importantly, what we need to provide is an Office app as close to the MS version as possible. If companies can sit somebody proficient with Office down at a Linux machine and have them give the thumbs up, then Linux can really make inroads because of the "free beer" aspect.
Well, not many Tim McVeigh types carry flight manuals written in Arabic, so that narrows it down a bit, eh? There were reports from the planes that the men were from the mideast, and the accent heard on one of the tapes was Arabic. What's YOUR deduction Sherlock?
Instead, kill the people that you know who did this
I would love to but they KILLED THEMSELVES. Martyrs do this because they know their wives and children will be cared for by the community. If they know we'll be willing to kill the entire community for their actions maybe they'll think twice about it. In any case, the next guy in line won't BE there to follow his brother.
Killing innocents in revenge would:
1) make you as evil as them
2) make the country subject to more attacks
I don't think you understand. They already think we're evil. They'll continue to attack. This is NOT the first time! I don't have a problem being as evil as they are. That's why they call it war.
Drinking doesn't help, I know from many experiences.
People go to their local restaurant/bar to eat, have a beer and talk about things. I was relaying what I heard in several places I visited during the day where people had congregated. I spoke with TV engineers, mechanics, and local businessmen, not drunks. Spare me the platitudes.
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Most of the companies I've worked for simply wouldn't be able to exist given today's volumes.
Stock brokers, for instance, have been around for a long time writing stuff down - y'know, using PAPER. But they wouldn't be able to execute many trades that way today. (Of course, that might be a good thing!)
and if you're a consultant you pretty much have to have it to subcontract. So yeah, it costs $600/yr for $2M in insurance and then they can sue you if you accidentally delete a database or something.
AND you have all those lovely blondes, to say nothing of native Swedish massage. :-)
Yeah, I've forgotten my old Blazer has this "feature" a few times because my other cars all beep or make some kinda fuss or just leave the parking lights on. Result: dead battery. Now I carry a battery booster so I can restart the damn thing.
It's nice to know I can light up the countryside in a libertarian way without an annoying buzzer going off to scare the deer, but a dead battery is a pain.
Yeah, but what about mine?
And do they take into account the unbridled joy of finding the whole "Rat Patrol" series on tape? Hmmm?
I thought not.
I resign, I had no idea I was dealing with a professional Slashdot poster.
Have a nice life. You apparently don't have one now.
I've also posted three times as much as you, so by my standards you're the relative newbie.
Oh I see, more is better. Glad I don't have to look at your code.
Look, you're just trying to justify the attitude that says "you can't violate our agreement because we're good, but we can violate yours all we want because you're a corporate entity". Situational ethics or not, that's just bullshit.
Until you learn the difference between a group, Slashdot, and its individual members, you deserve to be ignored and down-moded
The message was a reply to the story posting, if you didn't notice; intended for the editors who posted the story and run the place and anyone else for whom the shoe fits.
You wouldn't want someone to get around the GPL on a technicality. If you want GPL'd code you need to abide by the rules. Likewise, if you want NY Times content you ought to abide by THEIR rules. "Big media", your paranoia about being tracked, etc. is irrelevant.
But, above all, remember that Slashdot is not a singular entity.
Excuse me, but if our account #'s are any indication I've been around here a lot longer than you have, so piss off. The GPL is all about ethics, but they seem to only matter if it's the GPL that's being violated. Real ethics don't work that way.
And if you think I give a flying rat's ass about the bullshit that passes for moderation around here then you've got another think coming. Real karma has nothing to do with Slashdot.
Why is it you guys don't want to acknowledge the NY Times for the article and abide by THEIR "license" agreement? I mean the license issues (re:GPL) are so important to Linux you spend hours arguing about minutia, but you feel free to skate around the NY Times quite reasonable (and free) requests. How hypocritical is that?
I don't recall anyone hiding that they were Democrats.
From the NY Times report:
The F.B.I. has not yet found computer records or other documents left by the hijackers that help explain the plot. They say that there are few phone or other communications records showing that the four known hijacking groups communicated with each other.
Hell, if they didn't even use the phone much what's to say they used encrypted emails?
Why bother? You could just post it here as a troll or hidden in one of those stupid ASCII "art" posts.
If you disagree with the government then you are a nutcase and need to be locked in prison.
That statement pretty neatly summarizes why we need to be ever-vigilant for our freedoms, not just against foreign terrorists but also against idots like this.
Hey Mr. "We're at War", what changed Sept. 11? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The World Trade Center was attacked FIRST in '93! The USS Cole was just put back in the water. Since when is an attack on a warship net an attack on our military?
troll shit, when you fucking assholes grow up you'll realize the meaning of the word opinion, even when you disagree with it. Everything I wrote is factually true and in response to the original (off-topic!) message.
for the vast majority of you i was a moderator long before you found the place.
read the guidelines again.
He's been indicted for a number of other terrorist acts already, we just don't convict people in absentia or it would have been done long ago.
undeniably bloated US ego, but I thought it would be nice to get a point of view from actual Americans
lemme see, we're the world's largest economy, brought the world (all the rest of which is full of supremely humble and morally-superior people) things like transistors, the telephone, TV, and possibly saved the world from the Nazi's... no, no reason for US to have a big ego I guess.
God and religion are two seperate things, and if and when everyone realizes this, the world will be a better place.
Amen brother.
I believe you're thinking about Eric Raymond's comments, not Richard Stallman's.
What, and let the beer get warm!?
I don't THINK so...
No, they were in a position to do that if it had gotten any farther but it went down instead. The passengers found out about the WTC via cell-hone and apparently decided that if they were going to die they'd go out on their own terms.
Hmm, well glad to hear it. I worked for 'em for 10 weeks. They were completely unethical bastards. Hired me for a 5 month contract, which turned out to be really 4 months, then pressured me to go on full-time at half my consulting rate. When I didn't take the deal they fired me, then used my 10 weeks of work to fulfill 1 yr contract with the NSA.
Nice, real nice.
First, if they playing in GPL-land they should certainly play by the rules. That said...
Aren't you missing a piece here? If they give away what they did, nobody needs to buy it anyway. So how much could they lose? Nothing from nothing...
I'm sure I'll be modded down for pointing out this totally obvious economic issue with free software, but the reality is it's difficult to make a lot of (read: any) money off of something you give away, I don't care what it is. In their case (unlike most others) they probably could make some money on support, but most of the guys doing real-time stuff are pretty resourceful by definition.
Looney bin conspiracy you mean...
Many people think that Linux needs an Office clone to gain acceptance, but the truth is that monolithic software is not the future.
In principle I agree, but as others have pointed out much of MS software IS small pieces that work together. But more importantly, what we need to provide is an Office app as close to the MS version as possible. If companies can sit somebody proficient with Office down at a Linux machine and have them give the thumbs up, then Linux can really make inroads because of the "free beer" aspect.
Bottom line is the bottom line.
You do not know who did this.
Well, not many Tim McVeigh types carry flight manuals written in Arabic, so that narrows it down a bit, eh? There were reports from the planes that the men were from the mideast, and the accent heard on one of the tapes was Arabic. What's YOUR deduction Sherlock?
Instead, kill the people that you know who did this
I would love to but they KILLED THEMSELVES. Martyrs do this because they know their wives and children will be cared for by the community. If they know we'll be willing to kill the entire community for their actions maybe they'll think twice about it. In any case, the next guy in line won't BE there to follow his brother.
Killing innocents in revenge would:
1) make you as evil as them
2) make the country subject to more attacks
I don't think you understand. They already think we're evil. They'll continue to attack. This is NOT the first time! I don't have a problem being as evil as they are. That's why they call it war.
Drinking doesn't help, I know from many experiences.
People go to their local restaurant/bar to eat, have a beer and talk about things. I was relaying what I heard in several places I visited during the day where people had congregated. I spoke with TV engineers, mechanics, and local businessmen, not drunks. Spare me the platitudes.
Possibly you don't understand the meaning of the word "revolution"? It refers to action taken by the citizens OF the country, not by external agents.
You don't NEED guns OR explosives and it's not hard to fly a 757 ONCE IT'S UP IN THE AIR.
The hard part is LANDING, which is not a problem if you plan to fly into a building!