It's all part of the Google hype machine. Do you think that people would really want these products so badly if they didn't expect them to be great?
In all honesty, gmail is pretty good, as are other Google services. They have to live up in some respect, but, in another, the hype means that they themselves don't have to do much advertising.
Actually, I'd say that they have always been a company focused on a few things. They've hired a good number of good scientists.
Some of this stuff requires fairly complicated techniques from the realm of research.
Need an example. Get the calendar to sufficiently put a short summary of everything that's going on in its cells by extracting that data from your email.
Cubes are fine. Just make sure that you don't have your serfs in cubes while the lords are in their offices. Your people won't appreciate the inquality.
I've never heard anybody say, "I spent 6 years in college working my ass off to get a masters in engineering, and the dude who spent all of college drinking with his frat buddies gets paid double my pay and has a private office."
Eh, but most of us never crank out a "beta." I have a simulator that runs a mathematical version of my protocol now that I have preliminary results from (I have my own version of MITs P2PSim that does a few things better that are necessary for my tests). The real version will be a program written just to carry out my test and deployed on a private university cluster, and probably also on PlanetLab. Most of the serious research isn't producing anything that these kids would want to play with.
Even if it did, it would probably be some filesharing app, and all that you'd get is kids trading 1337 warez!
I've met a number of these kids, and chatted with plenty in my day. I have always been under the impression that those who wanted to learn something did. I remember listening to Brock Meeks speak ad DefCon, only to have questioners lay into him saying, "You don't have to be interested in programming to be a good hacker." Those kids don't want to learn anything, and they won't.
I can name at least 3 of my friends from when I was 14 chatting on IRC who are off getting their PhDs now (and you can add me to that number in the Fall).
The kids who wanted to download "bitchslap" and knock a computer or two offline did that and didn't do anything more interesting than that. They ran into #2600 and barked at all of the people in there "Am I 1337 now!?!" and told all of their friends how hardcore they were.
All of that aside, most of the serious P2P research is simply outside of the reach of your standard issue coder, let alone some script kiddie who doesn't know what he's doing. Perhaps there's some simple, elegant technique out there that people haven't exploited yet. Heck, I have my own simple elegant technique that I think that everyone missed. The difference is that I'm writing a paper about it, not sitting in some IRC channel telling people how 1337 my misguided flood protocol is.
And, also, exactly, they don't have to be hackers to cause harm. They can be script kiddies and be plenty destructive. A script kiddie is called a script kiddie because he doesn't have any 1337 sk1llz though, not because he's trying to change the world. I wanted to learn about computers once too. You know what I did? I programmed.
You seem to be under the impression that these kids know how to do something. They're not good hackers who went bad, they're bored kids who downloaded some source code somewhere.
Meet one or two of them. Most of them do not write this software, and do not know how to either.
Ok. Lame. I think that the major attack on mac is that, as more people use it, it becomes less obscure, so people might actually target it for attack, not that the software is becoming less secure.
It is notable that microkernel OSs offer improved security and such, at the cost of performance. Not being a Mac fanboy, I don't know how true they are to the whole bit.
Sorry, that sounds as though I respond poorly to such criticism. It's not that at all. It's that there are about 20 replies to this single post, all of which make the same point, all of which I have answered. After 20, when I realize that the commenter had access to all of those posts at their disposal, it makes me feel as though people are correcting me merely to hear their own voice.
Yes, I replied to this notion a number of times. I realize this. The point that I made, I suppose, was insufficient. You might also want to be aware that you're more likely to reproduce with a matriarch around, and that if your children all die off from inadequate care, that that has a role as well. I suppose, essentially, that anything involving the number of descenedents that you have, is of essential impact.
Of course, I was aware of this before, and realize now that you can't even comment on the topic without covering all of your bases, or someone will come along and correct you. In the future, I'll just refrain from commenting on the topic altogether, as this has been covered in a number of the child nodes of this conversation, and still, I am unable to escape the criticism. It has been a gigantic waste of time.
Nobody is telling people to give up their automobiles except for a handful of people who want to save the planet. How popular do you think congressmen who vote to eliminate SUVs would be?
Ok. I've heard that, but what are your sources citing problems with C/C++? I've heard about equally that they are unable to do a great deal of what they would like in C#. I can't claim firsthand knowledge, but, this was from someone who has firsthand knowledge.
Point taken. It was a simplified view that I presented, and I shouldn't have said anything, really, since you're the third person to point out that I didn't mention that people who have more kids have a bigger influence, and that having a matriarch around causes you to have more kids. (Though, I would argue that the second point is just a variation on the earlier theme).
Certainly. I was making am implicit assertion that most people aren't deciding to have particularly large families, so the guy who decides to have 3 kids is normalized out by those children only having 1 or 2, but, certainly, a real Cassanova could pass his horiffic mutations on to thousands of children with a good pick up line and some free time on the strip in Vegas.
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It was nothing personal, honestly. The only thread that I can recall getting involved with that you were involved with was yesterday.
I wasn't challenging you anyway. I was offering an alternative. Don't like the Google Calendar... eh, ok, why not go with an open source one.
SunBird not good, why not start a project.
I'm not attacking YOU.
Why not just use SunBird... if you think that SunBird is inadequate... why not just join the team and hack in some features?
:-D
Seriously. Don't like what's available? Make an open source product
It's all part of the Google hype machine. Do you think that people would really want these products so badly if they didn't expect them to be great?
In all honesty, gmail is pretty good, as are other Google services. They have to live up in some respect, but, in another, the hype means that they themselves don't have to do much advertising.
They also get a lot of the best people.
Actually, I'd say that they have always been a company focused on a few things. They've hired a good number of good scientists.
Some of this stuff requires fairly complicated techniques from the realm of research.
Need an example. Get the calendar to sufficiently put a short summary of everything that's going on in its cells by extracting that data from your email.
That was my first thought actually. Gasoline is organic, but I wouldn't recommend drinking it.
Speaking of which, where the heck did the term "organic" come from as it relates to food!?!?
Yeah, but Starship Troopers was nothing like the book.
Hey! How did you know my IP!?!
Cubes are fine. Just make sure that you don't have your serfs in cubes while the lords are in their offices. Your people won't appreciate the inquality.
I've never heard anybody say, "I spent 6 years in college working my ass off to get a masters in engineering, and the dude who spent all of college drinking with his frat buddies gets paid double my pay and has a private office."
All these worlds
Are hard to survive
Terraform Enceladus
Nukes are the answer
Somebody set up us the bomb
Sort of like on Mars
True, but I heard that Apples contain arsenic!
Funny, but I'm pretty sure that consuming alien bacteria might be ill-advised.
Eh, but most of us never crank out a "beta." I have a simulator that runs a mathematical version of my protocol now that I have preliminary results from (I have my own version of MITs P2PSim that does a few things better that are necessary for my tests). The real version will be a program written just to carry out my test and deployed on a private university cluster, and probably also on PlanetLab. Most of the serious research isn't producing anything that these kids would want to play with.
Even if it did, it would probably be some filesharing app, and all that you'd get is kids trading 1337 warez!
I've met a number of these kids, and chatted with plenty in my day. I have always been under the impression that those who wanted to learn something did. I remember listening to Brock Meeks speak ad DefCon, only to have questioners lay into him saying, "You don't have to be interested in programming to be a good hacker." Those kids don't want to learn anything, and they won't.
I can name at least 3 of my friends from when I was 14 chatting on IRC who are off getting their PhDs now (and you can add me to that number in the Fall).
The kids who wanted to download "bitchslap" and knock a computer or two offline did that and didn't do anything more interesting than that. They ran into #2600 and barked at all of the people in there "Am I 1337 now!?!" and told all of their friends how hardcore they were.
All of that aside, most of the serious P2P research is simply outside of the reach of your standard issue coder, let alone some script kiddie who doesn't know what he's doing. Perhaps there's some simple, elegant technique out there that people haven't exploited yet. Heck, I have my own simple elegant technique that I think that everyone missed. The difference is that I'm writing a paper about it, not sitting in some IRC channel telling people how 1337 my misguided flood protocol is.
And, also, exactly, they don't have to be hackers to cause harm. They can be script kiddies and be plenty destructive. A script kiddie is called a script kiddie because he doesn't have any 1337 sk1llz though, not because he's trying to change the world. I wanted to learn about computers once too. You know what I did? I programmed.
You seem to be under the impression that these kids know how to do something. They're not good hackers who went bad, they're bored kids who downloaded some source code somewhere.
Meet one or two of them. Most of them do not write this software, and do not know how to either.
Where do you get the idea that you're going to find a congressman who wants to do what you're saying?
Oh, and that the performance cost isn't usually so bad (and can be non-existant0 so, don't dump a load of threads on me saying I'm wrong.
The common attack on microkernel OSs is performance.
Ok. Lame. I think that the major attack on mac is that, as more people use it, it becomes less obscure, so people might actually target it for attack, not that the software is becoming less secure.
It is notable that microkernel OSs offer improved security and such, at the cost of performance. Not being a Mac fanboy, I don't know how true they are to the whole bit.
Using fanboy review sites to help you do your job is ill advised.
I'm actually not sure either. It was just outside my area enough to where I didn't really pursue the topic.
Sorry, that sounds as though I respond poorly to such criticism. It's not that at all. It's that there are about 20 replies to this single post, all of which make the same point, all of which I have answered. After 20, when I realize that the commenter had access to all of those posts at their disposal, it makes me feel as though people are correcting me merely to hear their own voice.
Yes, I replied to this notion a number of times. I realize this. The point that I made, I suppose, was insufficient. You might also want to be aware that you're more likely to reproduce with a matriarch around, and that if your children all die off from inadequate care, that that has a role as well. I suppose, essentially, that anything involving the number of descenedents that you have, is of essential impact.
Of course, I was aware of this before, and realize now that you can't even comment on the topic without covering all of your bases, or someone will come along and correct you. In the future, I'll just refrain from commenting on the topic altogether, as this has been covered in a number of the child nodes of this conversation, and still, I am unable to escape the criticism. It has been a gigantic waste of time.
Nobody is telling people to give up their automobiles except for a handful of people who want to save the planet. How popular do you think congressmen who vote to eliminate SUVs would be?
Ok. I've heard that, but what are your sources citing problems with C/C++? I've heard about equally that they are unable to do a great deal of what they would like in C#. I can't claim firsthand knowledge, but, this was from someone who has firsthand knowledge.
Point taken. It was a simplified view that I presented, and I shouldn't have said anything, really, since you're the third person to point out that I didn't mention that people who have more kids have a bigger influence, and that having a matriarch around causes you to have more kids. (Though, I would argue that the second point is just a variation on the earlier theme).
Certainly. I was making am implicit assertion that most people aren't deciding to have particularly large families, so the guy who decides to have 3 kids is normalized out by those children only having 1 or 2, but, certainly, a real Cassanova could pass his horiffic mutations on to thousands of children with a good pick up line and some free time on the strip in Vegas.