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Google's New Calendar CL2
pvt_medic writes "Google is apparently working on its own calendar (CL2) program to integrate with Gmail. The closed beta is ongoing with about 200 participants - people involved are not allowed to invite outsiders to see the calendar and are under strict rules not to share any details with outsiders. Here are some leaked photos of the CL2."
I'm guessing this will be one, of posssibly many, new things Google will be releasing April 1st. Knowing Google's history for releasing things on this date, it seems logical.
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Well, with only 200 participants it does make finding the source of the leak noticably easier...
How long until law enforcement uses the Google Calendar to solve crimes? Say the local QuikEMart is knocked off, they just have to Google it: Knock off QuikEMart at 10PM brings up one hit: Snake.
Oh You POS
Does anyone even use an online calendar? Why not use the one on your phone, PDA, laptop? What benefit does one get from using an online one?
I dont know about anyone else but I had a good chuckle from this:
"people involved are not allowed to invite outsiders to see the calendar and are under strict rules not to share any details with outsiders. Here are some leaked photos of the CL2."
I love the internet.
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Google has become too prolific. They have lost their focus and their original tenet. They are no longer a search company, they are an advertising company that does search.
I refuse to use any product that Google made, bought, or comes into contact with. If they get into bed with Sun, I guess I'll go over to AbiWord or just use a text editor. Likewise, I'll need to find a new browser if they mangle Mozilla's stuff. Google needs to leave things to the people that do them best. Google is not to be trusted.
Google never ceases to impress me. It seems that they always have something new up their sleeves. Earlier today I was reading about a program called, "Wrightly" (also posted on /.) that is supposed to be the killer Google Word Processor App that everyone's been talking about.
Anyway, what I really find amazing is Google's ability to find and promote those technologies that we would never have heard of. For example, Picasa and Google Earth. I played with Google' Earths previous self (KH) but I didn't want to pay $30 or whatever they were charging... and I would have passed Picasa off as yet another cheap knock-off.
I'm not saying that these are great programs in anyway, but they sure are great for free stuff... and that really amazes me -- Google really does have an aptitude for providing quality "free" software.
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I'm a student who uses campus computers at times, I work in an office, and I divide the little time that remains between my own home and my partner's. Between all of these points, any sort of synchronisation with a diary app is extremely unlikely, and with assignments, work events & a social life (yeah, right) all slipping randomly from my mind, I can see the value in this. Sure, an actual diary might be an idea, but I'm used to logging on to my gmail account every time I sit at a desk, whereas over the past few years I've tried half a dozen times to get into the habit of using a proper diary, and I fail miserably, usually after writing and promptly forgetting to check a single entry.
Even funnier is that if you take the images into gimp and change the levels to make all the colours really dark, what looks like a username stands out quite legibly in two of the images.
:)
Hope you don't work at google, solomanj
Anyhow, With google rolling out gmail for corporate users, good calendar integration could put a dent in outlook's market share.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Will Google let people use their application logic without requiring we store our personal data on their servers (subject to cracking, government requisition, backup tapes "lost in the mail", etc)? For that matter, how easy is it now to connect our own Jabber networks to Google's version?
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It's nice to see how well NDAs work in the wild, wild world of closed beta testing.
I remember the NDA I had to fill out to get into the Everquest beta. Ugh. That thing was monstrous. I'm sure I violated it at least once.
I found the page was a little slow, so before it goes down completely, here are the screenshots. Also works for the lazy. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
OK its in the quick add, which is the second image?
This reminds me a interesting article JMZ wrote on the subject of groupware. It's worth reading just for the quote "How will this software get my users laid", but it's got some good points that are relevant here. I daresay Google's been reading it too.
With their talents and GMail's strengths, it looks like they're ready to come out with just what JMZ is proposing. Which may make Hula dead in the water, but we'll just have to wait and see...
I heard you were dead.
Is that "stream of consciousness"? What the Hell are you saying?
You want everything for free, right? Google needs to get some value out of it, they are a business after all. And, as we all know, targeted ads are their business. So, no, I think they want to run their fingers through your data, that's the whole point.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
I thought you were taller.
You're assuming that someone from google didn't leak it.
It's been said that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Making something 'secret' only adds to the interest.
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Everyone is saying "the point is so that you can access your calendar from anywhere."
Whatever happened to the popular Slashdot meme: Don't access [Online Service that requires a password] from public places?
About the only places I would consider 'secure' are home, work, or a friend's house. And I wouldn't be so sure about the friend's house, because some of my friends are sneaky bastards like that.
Taking the Calendar away from a fixed computer, or appt. book or laptop/pda seems like it'll encourage people to check their schedule everywhere. Because, if the point is not to check it anywhere, then why not keep your schedule with you? Home ---> work doesn't seem very troublesome to me.
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Anyone else here think that Google should throw some cash at RIM to get CL2 and GMail doing full wireless sync with BlackBerries? I would gladly pay money for that feature.
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Yes, that should be JWZ; typo on my part, sorry.
Wanna rename it? It is disgusting. How about full disclosue for those schmucks who actually paid for your "subscription?"
Has anybody tried Caledarhub (http://www.calendarhub.com? What sets Google apart from this? I was a pretty staunch Yahoo calendar user until I found Caldarhub.
Before we went to the Julian calendar, a lunar calendar more than sufficed. Just add a leap second for every 1200 years or so, to compensate for lunar drift.
Ironically, we wouldn't have had to deal with all of these end time religious types (who decided to ignore the difference between the two) today, since their end of the world prophecies would have been scheduled for at least a few hundred years from now, rather than based on the year 2000.
Missing Mars due to a glitch in converting imperial to metric is one thing, destroying the Earth to speed up various religious prophecies due to a glitch in calendar systems is another.
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I will really like this. Mail, chat and calendar all in one place, with a nice interface and enough storage. I usually do work from 3 different places, from 4 computers, and accessing everything from Gmail will be a fine indeed, easier than always synch.ing calendars, and sometimes forgetting to do so. What we could spend quite an amount of time talking about would be privacy and security related issues, but I'm willing to lower some bars if this thing will be as functional as I expect it to be.
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
I cannot find the hidden name
where it is ?
could you please give more details ?
which image ?
where ?
is it a form of watermarking ?
thanks
http://www.google.com/cl2 yields a login prompt that says:
"Sign in to Google CL2 with your Google Account"
So now that Google already knows what we're searching for and can read our e-mail, it will also be able to know what we're doing at any given time? I'm definitely signing up!! What's next, Google Personal Diary? Google Thought Recorder?
Remember the quote, "We're moving to a Google that knows more about you" ? You'd better.
Once all of the google apps are out of beta, the office apps, chat, blogger, search, etc. the origami frier will be activated. a portable wifi terminal, able to access all google tools all of the time. This is especially obvious considering google's work towards city-wide wifi in philly, and work towards creating their "own internet". With the fewer resources required to create such a "dumb" device, everyone will have one.
Wow, too late, seems that they are offering ICAL format :-))
i dont know. Yahoo, MSN, and everyone has had calendar. What's the big deal about Google? Nothing innovative here.. a little dhtml? Tired of these guys.. Everyone wants to complain about MSFT but really looking to act like them. I like google, but copy cats. That's all. My 2 cents.
Maybe not by Apple, but in this particular case on Apple's OS.
SubEthaEdit is an awesome collaborative editor.
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What we ought to have now is a server based approach, where all devices access the same version of the data. For now, this implies a browser solution, though a DAV solution or dedicated protocol would be better. Nothing I have looked at is exactly right, but Yahoo Calendar (full version when on a computer, wap version on a cell phone) is getting there.
Hmm.... I suppose something like this could help me better manage my social life...
..oh wait...
I love humanity, it is people I hate
It's really getting fairly old 'leaking' screenshots etc to raise some easy hype :D
But anyway, this calandar program looks neat! Maybe if they stopped adding new features every week gmail could come out of "Beta" (ie, if it stuffs up don't bitch to us) sometime this century.
What I'd like to know is what AJAX library they use. Does Google build its own library and do they plan to release it to the public (OpenSource) or do they use another? I guess they don't use Yahoo's library and probably also not Zimbra's, so what else?
I'm starting to use the Dojo toolkit (http://dojotoolkit.org/) which might become the top free AJAX library. See my first easy samples "tree?.html" at (http://wyoguide.sf.net/test/.
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... CL2 doesn't stand for CaLendar2 but CL2. What if this is the begining of Client releases for google? Each version number introducing a new network oriented utility. What if this is just wishful thinking?
To allow Google to skim even more of your data. The calendar bit is just candy to keep the users happy. I still like my ultra portable, battery free solution with freeform user interface. That's right, a little book and a pen. I can use it anywhere. I can even add doodles.
Google COULD, if they want to, have a calendaring system in which the data is encrypted the entire time it is in transit, and the entire time it is stored on their systems, and only decrypted locally by a java applet within the browser of the user accessing the data. They could also still support this with advertising, and people would be more inclined to use it with the knowledge that their data would be safe.
Do you think businesses are going to want their employees scheduling confidential meetings on a calendaring system which Google has full access to? But if it were fully encrypted and only accessed by password locally, this would suddenly be a potent and secure tool which makes the PDA a lot less useful in a networked world.
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When I saw that screenshot I got a shiver down my spine
Next question: where are the screenshots?
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Hope you don't work at google, solomanj :)
Maybe it's an anagram? There are several names hidden in there - like "Joan Loms"
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The second image shows the 'Agenda' tab. Now, Google only released this to 200 people and they want it kept quiet. Have we at last found their hidden agenda?
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What? The door is over there, you say? OK, I'll be off then
What I have always wanted is a web calendar that I can sync with my desktop calendaring app (preferably via an open standard.) It'd be especially nice if it was acccessible via my cellphone, too. But what I'd really like it to do is this:
- show my schedule to the public
- allow me to choose which calendar events I have posted are (in)visible, and with or without description (since I don't - necessarily want everyone to know _what I'm doing then. just that i'm busy.)
- allow people to select a time range from the calendar and "apply" for that range of my time
- have me emailed/IMd/otherwise contacted when such an application occurs so I can confirm/reject it
- then have them notified of the acceptance/rejection.
I have a pretty busy and variable schedule. It would be nice for me to have my calendar available to me at all times. And to let people figure out what time suits both of us without having to trust that neither of us are forgetting anything.
Does such a calendar exist?
*Note: feel free to steal this idea. i know i'm not going to develop it...
What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
Where are the screen shots? Taken down by the google secret police?
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It's amazing - just a day or two ago, I was thinking how convenient it would be to have a calendar in Gmail, rather than have my schedule sitting in Outlook on my home desktop and doing nothing.
And now it turns out they're working on it.
And just a few months ago, I was hoping that Google would make an Israel version of Google News - and that came out on Tuesday, and looks great.
How often does it happen that a company consistently puts out programs and services that you'd wanted to use before they made them?
More likely it is SolomanJ, last name then first initial.
I don't think many people are aware of it but a 'new' standard is finally emerging that allows mobile devices to synchronize over the internet. A great number of mobile phones and smartphones (like my Nokia 9300) support this. See the website below for a list of devices that support SyncML. So does the Mozilla Sunbird Calendar...
;)
List of devices: https://www.mobical.net/mobical/phonesetup/
What use is an online calendar if it doesn't support online synchronisation?
I know that Gmail has ignored the wonderful imap standard, so I'm not entirely cnvinced they won't ignore this one.
So: Please Google, don't be evil, and use the open SyncML standard
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Here's the link to Cached version of ScreenShots. And, Google says, it doesn't know what this cache is. Google can police even cache, beware!!
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Yoink! So long, dudes!
There has been ALOT of discussion on Calendars, and EXCHANGE. There was a comment made that EXCHANGE is the clear choice (and something only choice) for corporate informational exchange. Well, the company I worked for refused Exchange. What they are using is OpenXchange. http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community// Which is a open sourced version of novells Version http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/screen shots.html/ For those who need a "Calendar" or "Email" Server without sticking your stuff into google.
. html/ and here http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/onl ine.htm/
The Open Sourced version is a little hectic to setup as it does not contain an administrative backend, so most of of the work is done through the command line... which is a small price to pay if you compare what is costs for MS Exchange. A Demo could be located here http://www.openexchange.com/EN/product/onlinedemo
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That business about groupware sucking is bullshit. Some of us *are* managers, and we need to know what's going on with the projects we're responsible for. So rather than, let's say, walking around to everyone's door asking what they did yesterday, if I have groupware I can check the common tasklist and not piss off my people with an interruption. Case in point--where would you programmers be without your ticket system? That's groupware. Duh. Stupid, stupid, stupid. F that groupware shit! Gonna stick it to the MAN!
bahahah i thought that may have been my TA at school, but his address is actually solomonj@usc.edu , i should've really checked before pestering him about it lol.
The original host is down, so I have taken my life and bandwidth allowance in my hands and stuck a mirror up. http://jaduncan.net/google-calendar-cl2-leaked-pic tures
"To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious that I am right."
Does this mean that now, when Google is forced to bend to the pressure of the Current Administration through some laws that will no-doubt be passed to ensure compliance, that the Gubbermint will now be able to see where every person is at any given time, as well as what email they're sending, to whom, and what web searches they're using?
Oh wait, don't use Google, use Yahoo! to search, or AOL, or MSN... Riiiight, the .gov will just aggregate those search results (that they've already secured access to) through a real-time query and figure out exactly WHERE you sent that email or did that search from, then cross-reference that with your calendar, and figure out exactly what you were doing at the time.
As long as there are ridiculous draconian laws that allow .gov to demand logs and other details from providers, there can be no anonymity. At least so far, my provider is Pro-Privacy, and "Gets It(tm)". It pays to go with one of the little guys sometimes.
I don't quite know why, but I got the same vibe now that I got from that guy (cousin or whatever) who was supervising for a bit in "American Chopper".
You know, the guy they finished things in spite of instead of because of.
I've been waiting for this
- Their search engine is superior.
- gmail was the first with Gig storage; It also has the superior interface.
- Maps is killing mapquest and microsoft's stuff. Mapquest has been dieing for a bit, but over the last couple of years it has been put into the ground.
- Gtalk is so so. Nothing inovative, other than using jabber (the first that talks to all the others).
And now they bought Writely.Dollar for Dollar, I would expect good things from their calendar.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
But isn't vCal just a way to send calendar events between calendars? I didn't think it could actually synchronize, say, the calendar on your phone with with the one on your desktop. If, for example, you sent an appointment from your desktop calendar to your phone with vCal, then changed the desktop instance of the appointment, there'd be no way to synchronize that change with the phone using vCal - you'd have to delete the appointment from your phone and send the updated instance (again) from your desktop... right?
Sean
I really like some of the new online calendar projects out there. They have a nice slick interfaces and allow you to share events with others, create personal rss-feeds, and there are hacks for convienent bookmarklets on browser for event entry.
The one I am using now is new and is called 30boxes.com. Very nice interface, very good features. However, if google implememented something similar, I would switch to google. They are more likely to continue to exist in the forseeable future and that helps me to put more trust investment into a calendar run by them.
Somehow, this reminds of write brothers... just dont know how!
Gmail
Gdrive
Gcalendar
Gdesktop
Gword (word processor)
Gsheet (spreadsheet)
Gbase
Gthis
Gthat
Brings us to the online version of the majorty of business and home desktops. Only now online and available wherever you are.
Scary Cool!
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I can't go an hour without somehow using Google to make my everyday life easier. They really know how to make everything convienent. I would marry Google if I could.... I really would.
By the way, the Hula project is pretty much dead at this point.
c hbrowse.php/hula-commits/2006-March/thread.html?id =1613&prjname=hula&mlname=commits
66 messages in the Hula svn-commit mailing list in March (so far) (and ~150 in February) disagree with you.
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I'm really glad to see this. caledar/email support is by far the nicest feature in Outlook, but the main issue is that enough people had to use outlook in some sort of networked fashion to make it really work. Gmail is much more pervasive in usage outside of the corporate world and has the network setup since it's webmail. I really hope they get the usability of this right.
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I seriously cannot believe you would do that. That is like, against the Slashdot Code of Honor.
You should be banned.
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What I find interesting is that Google is developing products that are the building blocks for something larger. Orkut seems like it was a test run, and Google doesn't care about it anymore. Myspace and Facebook are the fads these days, but they still aren't very good. But Google has blogging, shared calendars, maps, chat, classifieds and email. Add in a few more mechanisms to figure out what you like and where you live (which someone like Amazon has, through your purchasing habits), then Google can auto-generate a large portion of a profile for you, and further make some pretty good guesses about who you might like to be friends with. But most importantly, it can tie it in to actual, real-world events. You like band X, Google can tell you when that band is coming, how to get there, and who might be interested in joining you. Then it can put it into your calendar for you. Want to go to dinner? Google can give you information on the restaurants in your area. Social Networking isn't that useful unless it connects to your real-world life. Google is building the pieces to do that. And no doubt it can make plenty of ad dollars off of being your social life's facilitator.
From the screenshots, it looks like it lacks a Marcus Bains Line.
Oh well. At least we can greasemonkey it in.
Looks cool. Calendar is really the only thing I still use over at Yahoo.
One step closer!
Google Life
It's going to happen. I'm interested in WHEN.
Google has been rumored to state that they would like to house everyones data and files... and we know GDrive is coming. Now we have a Calendar application. I see a trend here, where Google wants to be our operating system, and you fanboys are buying into it. They want your stuff, and you're cheering them for it.
I have a calendar. It hangs on my wall.
Under strict rules to not share, but wait some leaked photos get out.
I am not just excited to see a calender to go with my cranbers@gmail.com account but I am thanking google for the days I won't have to use yahoo's crap anymore. The thing that is great about google is that, they are not the first to do these things, but I have no doubt they will be the first to do it right. Their office offering is going to be great as well I have no doubt!
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