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The NVIDIA GeForce 7900 Series
An anonymous reader writes "HardOCP has posted their evaluation of the new GeForce 7900 technology. They fully cover widescreen gaming this time around too. 'NVIDIA has worked hard to try and produce a more powerful, albeit power-efficient GPU in the 7900 GTX and GT, and they've succeeded. They run cooler; are smaller, have less transistors, and they don't make you stuff cotton in your ears. The 7900 GTX and GT are just more efficient while being lightning fast.'"
i bet with the SLI i can still cook two eggs at once. :)
'...if only "Jumping to a Conclusion" was an event in the Olympics.'
So GPU's are also now on the Performance/Watt bandwagon.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
NVIDIA has launched the latest refresh of their GeForce 7 series of 3D Graphics for the desktop today and took the wraps off their new GeForce 7900GTX, GeForce 7900GT and GeForce 7600GT cards. There's a full review and showcase at HotHardware, along with benchmarks that show these new 90nm built GPUs have very strong performance with lower power and even better price points. In fact the GeForce 7900 series will cost much less than NVIDIA's former high-end the GeForce 7800 series. The GeForce 7900GT in particular offers $500 graphics card level performance, reportedly at a much more palatable $299 price point.
NVIDIA is now offering a quad-SLI solution which can bake 2 biscuits to accompany those eggs.
Have PCs already caught up to the XBOX 360 in graphics? I know you can't compare the two price-wise, but what about a mid-range gaming PC?
Religion for nerds. Stuff that really matters
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http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/326/
http://pcper.com/article.php?aid=213
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/9529
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/09/ati_and_nv
And yet another graphics card is released. Is it worth my money to upgrade my dual 6800 XTs? Let's find out by reading the review.
Unfortunately, I can't. I'm better off going to NVidia and trusting their product sheets. Why? Because I'm not looking to play Need for Speed Most Wanted or Quake Four or Half Life Two, I'm looking to do some actual graphics processing with an SLI setup. Yes, brace yourselves, I don't actually use these beasts for gaming.
If you read the reviews, it may look like these cards have no purpose other than to play the higher end games.
It is my responsibility to make a kind of "Google Earth on Steroids" for my employer. And this requires that five (yes, five) terabytes of mapping data be available for a multi-monitor (and by "multi" I mean many) display. What's my current choke point? Simply data bandwidth into the card.
Where does this review leave me? I now know intimately how high I can get my frame rate up in a first person shooter. Huzzah!
I know there are product sheets that tell me what kind of bandwidth I have but I'm more interested in what a non-interested third party has to say about it. Where are the real benchmarking tests? What about a simple program that loads up the card with as much data as possible as quickly as possible? I'm not even sure if the choking point is on the card or at the interface level with the motherboard (PCIe 16x).
Why can I not find objective reviews that aim to look at cold hard numbers?
My work here is dung.
The biggest news (for me at least) is that the MSRP of the 7900GT is $299. Considering the 7900GT performs on par with the 7800GTX, which is about $100 more, the 7900GT is starting to look like a bargain.
If any of you bleeding-edge gamers want to sell off your "old" 7800GTX for $250 or so, drop me a line
Being a non-native english speaker; What is the difference? Or is it simply incorrect to use "less" in this case?
Au contraire. Taco says that grammatical errors are perfectly acceptable, and in fact give slashdot much of it's "flavor." To me this says that gross grammatical errors are actually encouraged, so as to give it even more flavor.
This guy's the limit!
Where as the main character looked like this before (screenshot below):
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Now on this new video card it looks like this:
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best 500 bucks I have ever spent
To combat the new GeForce 7600 GT and GeForce 7900 GT, ATI just launched the new Radeon X1800 GTO. The only review I can find so far is at Hot Hardware.
How about linux support for these new features and hardware itself?
After all, they're discrete components.
(pun intended)
Fewer is used for things you can count one by one (things that are numbered). Less is used for amounts that can be measured but not counted. There are fewer cars on the street. There is less gin in my glass.
Except on slashhdot, where the two words are interchangeable.
None of them can see the clouds; The polished wings don't care.
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:P
if you could count them (people at a meeting) you used "fewer"; if you couldn't count it (sugar) you used "less."
Frankly, I think it'd be good to have fewer grammatical rules, and about this one, I could't care less
hmmm I wonder if these cards will be HDCP compatible?
In English, the word you use depends on whether the thing you are describing is countable or uncountable. If English isn't your first language, that is the best way to think about it. Native speakers, of course, don't stop to think about it (and often get it wrong, for that matter :-) )
Some examples:
Countable:
A cow
"I have three cows"
You can see individual cows; you can't divide a single cow into other cows.
Uncountable:
Water is uncountable*
You don't say "I have waters" (unless you are being strangely poetic)
instead, you say "I have some water."
If you divide up some water, each piece is still just "water".
How does this affect language?
"I have many cows, and I have much water."
"I have few cows. I have little water."
"I have fewer cows than Michael. I have less water than Michael"
Hope that helps.
*Water itself is uncountable, but you can count the quantities it is in.
"I much water" vs. "I have many litres of water"
A preposition is a terrible thing to end a sentence with.
"Taco says that grammatical errors are perfectly acceptable, and in fact give slashdot much of it's "flavor." To me this says that gross grammatical errors are actually encouraged, so as to give it even more flavor."
I think what you meant to say was:
Taco says he's fine with grammer mistakes and spelling. Errors, are double-plus good flavor, so they are encouraged, IMO.
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63/64 FPS Max in Q4... Did they even bother to remove the vsync?
Your eyes are full of hate. That's good. Hate keeps a man alive. It gives him strength.
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This guy's the limit!
Actually, gross grammatical mistakes are de rigueur in /. summaries. As are factual inaccuracies, misrepresentations and outright distortion. I'm also beginning to suspect there are bonus karma points for having your submission posted to the front page when the summary is completely unrelated to TFA.
That being said, it's what makes /., well, /. Enjoy! ;)
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Simple, jut convince your employer to open-source his program to the slashdot community.
We'll tell you how it runs on all sorts of different systems.
[grin]
You could even submit your request as a slashdot question. It has all the right ingredients, after all: "How do I do [impossible task A] with [irresponsibly innapropriate hardware setup X] within [absurdly low budget constraint Y]."
Well, it's good to see that some moderator wants to make slashdot as flavorful as possible.
This guy's the limit!
Namely, the Quadro. The GeForce series are their gamer cards. That's their target market, well at least with the higher end ones. Hence, they send them to gamer sites and they get reviewed for gamers. nVidia's professional line of cards are the Quadros. They are the same chips as the GeForces, but use different drivers, certified for pro apps, and have features available not found on consumer cards like HDSDI output.
Now if you feel like saving money by getting the gamer card instead of the pro one, I don't have a problem with that, however don't get angry that everyone else taks about it and reviews it as though it were a gamer card since, in fact, it is. If you want a card taht's treated like a pro card, look at a Quadro.
I get tired of the constant barrage of newer and faster video cards on a 6 month cycle. Most people can't afford $700 for the latest video card, so its like 12 months before these video cards become feasible for the average user to consider in their new system, and by then a newer faster $700 video card has already come out.
The problem is, with each generation of video card, full of hype and claims of high performance, wait 6 months and a video game is usually released where it cripples the card. I have an x700 video card and, while not the x800, it was still in a generation of video cards that can play the newest games at the highest resolutions with the best quality settings. Playing F.E.A.R I can barely get 30 fps out of the card with minimum to medium quality settings, that on a video card not more then a year old.
Video cards are one of those products that are sold for way too much money when it is first released. I mean, nVidia and ATI may think it is necessary to jack up the cost to cover R&D investment, but how much R&D is really going on? With the 7900, nVidia just looked to shrink some of the components and optimize existing architecture, something they have been doing consistently with the Geforce lineup. Are they spending billions in R&D, or just millions? Do they need to sell new cards for $700, or perhaps can we start seeing a price war that will drive down costs of new products to reasonable prices.
In any case, so what, nVidia has a new lineup of video cards. Add that to the list of literally hundreds of available video cards on the market, with 16 versions of every model and generation by 16 different companies, the video card market has become muddy and overly complicated and I just don't care when something new enters the market now because it won't run the games well that I want to play 6 months from now, and I don't have $700 burning a hole in my pocket every 6 months to buy the next latest and greatest.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
Now that they're about the same price, how do they compare to each other?
My HDTV doesn't need a fan. Can I get a Linux PC with HDTV videocard that doesn't need a fan to play widescreen "HDVDs" off my hard drive?
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A very handy videocard database for those shopping for a card.
It says the price is $449 for a 7800 GT.. but thats off by some 150 dollars... newegg has these cards priced at $285 to $350!
The human race is artificial intelligence created using object orientated programming.
Right now, I'm looking to upgrade my gaming rig to PCI-E, and I'm confused. nVidia seem to have about 50 different chipsets available, all with numbers that look vaguely the same, all with suffixes that look vaguely the same, all available on different cards, from different manufacturers, with different amounts of RAM.
ATI are getting to be just as bad. So, my question: what should I be looking for when I'm trying to decide between BFG or Leadtek or Asus or whatever?
I don't even know whether I want SLI! Someone enlighten me, please.
And when you gaze long enough into the code, the code will also gaze into you.
are these the DirectX 10 cards?
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Ok, I've got a Radeon 9800 Pro card that I got with my machine about 4 years ago. The machine itself is a P4 running at or near (perhaps slightly over) 3 GHz with 1 GB of RAM. Warcraft CRAWLS for me. At best, in the overworld, I get 20-30fps. I was looking to spec out a new machine and discovered that what I bought 4 years ago isn't that far behind what you get today in terms of processors and RAM, so I'm wondering if that uber Radeon 9800 Pro card is significantly less haus that what typical 3d gamers have these days. And, if so, could I expect a significant performance boost by simply swapping out my GFX card? And, if so, which one should I get? Presume I'd prefer to spend no more than $400.
"I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
You can check out the XFX XXX 7900GTX, 7900GT, and 7600GT here.
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This is the only review of these cards, and they are clocked higher than any others available.
ignorance is bliss. googlefiberatx.com
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It's a grammar nazi blitzkrieg!
(sorry, not directed at any particular member of the conjugatenmacht)
"...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
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I'd love to read some general purpose GPU type benchmarks for these cards. I'm really curious how they perform compared to say the original Nvidia 6800 card. It might be fun to graph the performance and see what the curve looks like compared to CPU performance graphs.
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As of Jan 2006 here are your choices:
budget:
card 1 ($45)
card 2 ($50)
mid-level:
card 3 ($100)
card 4
gamer:
card 5 ($130)
crazy gamer:
card 6 ($450)
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I couldn't find one. The usual review sites have too much info for me to digest (latest GPU specs, how many million polygons
Does any one know a site like this that has uptodate info?
thanks so much
Fewwwweeeeeerrrrrrrrr.........
"i bet with the SLI i can still cook two eggs at once. :)"
Well the women gamers should keep that in mind.
It's amazing that people are so put off by announcements like this. "Oh great, ANOTHER new video card. Whoop-dee-doo!" The graphics industry has apparently been too good to all of you. Imagine if any other industry on the planet moved like the graphics industry... Would you complain if every six months you could buy a car that went twice as fast as your old one and consumed half as much gas? So maybe you don't want to pay top dollar for the latest and greatest video card, but here's the secret: you don't have to! There are never games that require the latest and greatest card. Game developers are smart guys, and they know who their audience is. They aren't going to write a game that only 0.001% of the population can play. People seem to feel like they're being left behind by this ongoing horsepower race in the graphics industry, when in reality, what's happening is that they're getting substantial leaps in technology at a fairly constant price. The top-of-the-line today is $600-$700, and the card that was the top of the line six months ago is somewhere around $300-$400. Not to mention that they're providing derivative cards at every possible level, so you can spend just about whatever you want, all the way down below $100, and still get something that plays a vast majority of the games out there. Just enjoy it. You are the winner here, any way you look at it. If you're so annoyed by all this technology that's being developed for you, just download MAME and relive the glory days of 300x200 resolution with 16 colors.
How does this get a +4? This isn't the "news for Luddites, new technology is dumb" website. It is a new card, that has better performance than the old card. It is more expensive, than the old cards (actually some versions are cheaper than the old cards and have better performance). Deal with it. If you don't care, then go read something else. Go buy a console if you can't deal with choice.
Just because you THINK there is some purpose in Nvidia's naming scheme doesn't mean there actually IS any purpose.
Take the GeForce 6 series, for example:
Within the first six months of release, Nvidia had laid-out a very simple set of cards (in performance order):
6800 Ultra
6800 GT
6800
6600 GT
6600
6200
6200 TC
Now, they had this great arrangement of performance levels, where all the cards within a lower numbered range were slower than the cards in the next higher numbered range. but like any company they had to deal with inefficiencies in their production processes, and try to keep their brands fresh. Thus, many cards were added to fit small but profitible niche or OEM markets.
So, by the end of 2005, you had a whole mess of cards. Some of them were added to compete with ATI, others were added to deal with yields (and had disabled pipes), while still others were introduced to replace a product that was "old" with something easier to make.
The mapping, in true performance, of all GeForce 6 chips, end of 2005:
6800 Ultra
6800 GT
6800 GS (Added as a reduced-cost replacement to 6800 GT)
6800 GTO (Added in response to ATI's x800 GTO)
6800
6600 GT
6800 XT
6800 LE
6600 DDR2
6600
6500
6600 LE
6200
6200 TC
See how confusing that became? It's just a natural progression, and ATI does the same thing. The 7 series is already beginning to see the effects of the naming scheme madness. Once Nvidia transitions fully over to the 7 series, expect the same product fragmentation to occur.
Oh, and I must correct you on this:
x extension (gtx, fx) was for a while PCI-X, but they've since dropped it.
Do you mean PCIe?
Incorrect. The FX series (GeForce 5) was entirely AGP. Board makers later released versions of the FX series with PCI-e bridge chips so they could dump their stock as "PCIe" cards.
The 7800 GTX is the only card EVER MADE by Nvidia to wear the "GTX" monkier. The 7800 GTX is PCIe, but so is the 7800 GT...see the problem with your assertion?
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And occasionally whores for Karma.
... you actually have to follow up on and read all the links to "verify" the article summaries. (Did they *really* mean that?)
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The ATI Radeon 7000VE Dual Display will support two DVI-D monitors at 1280x1024 and one DVI-D monitor at 1920x1200.
It's the lowest-end ATI kit you can get nowadays except for the Rage line, and that's only embedded in server chipsets.
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You are missing a fundamental part of capitalism yourself. You can either say "Who will pay $1000 for this?" and get 5 people or say "Who will pay $100 for this?" and get 50. His point is that why can't they sell it for less and sell it to more people? It sounds more like they play on the psychology of lack for some reason instead of selling in volume.
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These cards cost too dam much and dont offer that much value for the high costs.
The language geeks are out in force today. (Why is it that computer geeks are "geeks", whereas language geeks are "grammar nazis"? Can we start referring to wilfully illiterate slobs as "language lusers"? I think that'd be fair.)
less applies to continuous amounts. "Less milk" is an example. fewer means discrete things, like "fewer eggs". Also, note "less money" vs "fewer dollars", and "less sand" vs "fewer grains of sand". Some nearly continuous things like money and sand also go with "less".
How about, "I am going to be eating fewer meals this week since I bought my shiny new 7900GTX"?
y are u using those cards for 3D purpose. u better get a quadro card. or mod ur card to quadro versions. and no way that PCI-E x16 is a bottleneck for ur card. As the numbers with x32 and x16 are same.
i work for money, if u want loyalty, Go get a Dog.
the 7600GT which is launched by nvidia is against X1600 series not X1800GTO well nvidia can come up with 7600GTX later as some sites have found that 7600GT has 16 Pipes but only 12 of them are enabled :)
i work for money, if u want loyalty, Go get a Dog.
i can suggest u something if u can only tell me ur budget and requirements :)
i work for money, if u want loyalty, Go get a Dog.