That is something bosses say to scare people into giving up their power. "At least you have a job." Meanwhile, they could do that at any time either way and you took it and liked it in the meantime rather than standing up to management.
The process has to be laborious. If it's too easy, it likely is too easy to make unfair. If you don't have to do any work to show cause, etc. how can it possibly be evaluated?
You have to defend the contract, no matter what the employee is doing. If management does their job and there is merit, the union will lose every time.
As I've written elsewhere, I'm on the board of my union. That is not how things go here, and frankly if they did, someone could run against the leadership (and at this point, probably win). We are public sector as well. I suspect you may not know as much of what you're talking about as you think you do. Our management says the same things about my union, and it seems some members believe it. Defending the inept? People don't do the paperwork to fire people properly. Unfortunately, we have to fight that -- if we don't, people are are NOT inept who get fired improperly are at risk legally for a variety of reasons that are too lengthy to go into here. Supress wages? The boss says this often. The union makes it so that the boss cannot unfairly hand out wages to his friends. Occasionally this makes it harder (nowhere near impossible) to give out raises as you have to be fair. Strong arming members? Yeah, right. How many unions do you know that are powerful enough anymore to strong arm someone? Money for politics? Of course. If you're public sector, you live and die by what your politicians do to you. Our governor-elect says he wants to declare a state of emergency and void our contract. Should we honestly not pay attention to that?
Thanks for the information. I didn't ask the original question, but I am currently on call for free and am on the board of the union that is attempting to change that. We've been having a rough time with proposals considering most of us are salaried. Any sort of creative ideas that don't involve getting officially paid for the hours are interesting to read.
And I did some hunting around and apparently I and all of my friends that flew internationally recently JUST missed the cutoff for this, or didn't order drinks. It seems positively insane.
Photoshop does not ship with any version of Windows or MacOS X, though, and neither does Paint Shop Pro. So, really, including anything might be a step ahead of Windows (though I do believe something does ship these days... just don't know what).
Provide one example that actually has any basis in fact? Right wing Christians have been trying to force their "moral values" on all of us for years. Progressives generally leave people to do what they want. Funny to me that conservatives tend to say they're for "small government"... unless the government happens to be in your bedroom, eh?
I really shouldn't be feeding the troll, should I?
There is at least ast much intellectual honesty on Huffington Post as on the rest of the mainstream media. I guess it's fun to make jabs and not back anything up, eh?
Since you want to draw an analogy between this situation and the one you're proposing, perhaps you want to actually do your homework.
The reason that this is funny or was even done to begin with is that this is Glenn Beck's own medicine. For example, showing a picture of Mao and saying that someone in the Obama administration takes all of her direction from him... and then moments later saying "if she didn't call to deny it, it must be true." The parody is "well, Glenn Beck is not denying that he raped and murdered a girl in 1990, so he must have." It's not funny in the case of Michele Obama -- she's not trying to pull the same shit on TV every day with impunity.
I agree, giving sweetheart deals to your friends and tax breaks to the rich is a much more important pursuit. That said, even if it's pointless (and here, it was not -- I believe these servicewomen were asked to sign a clause saying the contractor was held harmless if something like that should take place), why vote AGAINST it?
Risks are one thing. Unnecessary risks are another. If someone warns you "those O-rings are not safe," you fix them. If someone warns you "this debris falling may damage tiles which should be inspected," you do something about it. There are going to be PLENTY of risks associated with manned spaceflight about which you do not have detailed prior knowledge. That's no reason to be careless when you have a problem staring you in the face.
No, it's been easy for a long time. Not sure what you're talking about. Even if you run the non-free version from VirtualBox, it's stupid easy. You just have to re-rerun the modules compile script if you get a new kernel (and if will tell you what to do... something like/etc/init.d/vboxdrv modules or similar).
Well, at least now I'm reminded why I labeled you an idiot.
Incidentally, bipartisan cooperation? When has any Democratic administration managed that even when they were being nice to the Republicans? We had 39 Republicans vote against a ban on gang rape, essentially, the other day.
But then, so was Bush... and much less democratically. So, really, it's as democratic as any other election has ever been, and if I recall correctly, wasn't even all that close.
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That's a great argument -- are you in management?
That is something bosses say to scare people into giving up their power. "At least you have a job." Meanwhile, they could do that at any time either way and you took it and liked it in the meantime rather than standing up to management.
Sounds like you read the newspaper and folklore and take those opinions as facts, not that you have any actual experience with any union.
My union is an AFT subsidiary and your experience sounds similar to mine. Perhaps we are in one of the better unions in the US.
The process has to be laborious. If it's too easy, it likely is too easy to make unfair. If you don't have to do any work to show cause, etc. how can it possibly be evaluated?
You have to defend the contract, no matter what the employee is doing. If management does their job and there is merit, the union will lose every time.
As I've written elsewhere, I'm on the board of my union. That is not how things go here, and frankly if they did, someone could run against the leadership (and at this point, probably win). We are public sector as well. I suspect you may not know as much of what you're talking about as you think you do. Our management says the same things about my union, and it seems some members believe it. Defending the inept? People don't do the paperwork to fire people properly. Unfortunately, we have to fight that -- if we don't, people are are NOT inept who get fired improperly are at risk legally for a variety of reasons that are too lengthy to go into here. Supress wages? The boss says this often. The union makes it so that the boss cannot unfairly hand out wages to his friends. Occasionally this makes it harder (nowhere near impossible) to give out raises as you have to be fair. Strong arming members? Yeah, right. How many unions do you know that are powerful enough anymore to strong arm someone? Money for politics? Of course. If you're public sector, you live and die by what your politicians do to you. Our governor-elect says he wants to declare a state of emergency and void our contract. Should we honestly not pay attention to that?
Thanks for the information. I didn't ask the original question, but I am currently on call for free and am on the board of the union that is attempting to change that. We've been having a rough time with proposals considering most of us are salaried. Any sort of creative ideas that don't involve getting officially paid for the hours are interesting to read.
And I did some hunting around and apparently I and all of my friends that flew internationally recently JUST missed the cutoff for this, or didn't order drinks. It seems positively insane.
I am pretty sure you're incorrect.
Photoshop does not ship with any version of Windows or MacOS X, though, and neither does Paint Shop Pro. So, really, including anything might be a step ahead of Windows (though I do believe something does ship these days... just don't know what).
Provide one example that actually has any basis in fact? Right wing Christians have been trying to force their "moral values" on all of us for years. Progressives generally leave people to do what they want. Funny to me that conservatives tend to say they're for "small government"... unless the government happens to be in your bedroom, eh?
I really shouldn't be feeding the troll, should I?
Stay classy, jcr.
m.facebook.com is the mobile version, like most sites.
There is at least ast much intellectual honesty on Huffington Post as on the rest of the mainstream media. I guess it's fun to make jabs and not back anything up, eh?
Since you want to draw an analogy between this situation and the one you're proposing, perhaps you want to actually do your homework.
The reason that this is funny or was even done to begin with is that this is Glenn Beck's own medicine. For example, showing a picture of Mao and saying that someone in the Obama administration takes all of her direction from him... and then moments later saying "if she didn't call to deny it, it must be true." The parody is "well, Glenn Beck is not denying that he raped and murdered a girl in 1990, so he must have." It's not funny in the case of Michele Obama -- she's not trying to pull the same shit on TV every day with impunity.
Get it now? Thanks. PS: please read, then talk.
I have a land line and, aside from a major installation problem initially, have never had an outage in 2 years. I can't say the same for my cellular.
I agree, giving sweetheart deals to your friends and tax breaks to the rich is a much more important pursuit. That said, even if it's pointless (and here, it was not -- I believe these servicewomen were asked to sign a clause saying the contractor was held harmless if something like that should take place), why vote AGAINST it?
It was an amendment to a bill. My apologies for not making that clearer:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:SP2588:
Over there, apparently it was not legal, but it was happening and not being addressed. Isn't that enough?
Not quite so open that your brain falls out, however.
I ran into this, but I've never seen it documented. Do you have information?
Risks are one thing. Unnecessary risks are another. If someone warns you "those O-rings are not safe," you fix them. If someone warns you "this debris falling may damage tiles which should be inspected," you do something about it. There are going to be PLENTY of risks associated with manned spaceflight about which you do not have detailed prior knowledge. That's no reason to be careless when you have a problem staring you in the face.
No, it's been easy for a long time. Not sure what you're talking about. Even if you run the non-free version from VirtualBox, it's stupid easy. You just have to re-rerun the modules compile script if you get a new kernel (and if will tell you what to do... something like /etc/init.d/vboxdrv modules or similar).
Well, at least now I'm reminded why I labeled you an idiot.
Incidentally, bipartisan cooperation? When has any Democratic administration managed that even when they were being nice to the Republicans? We had 39 Republicans vote against a ban on gang rape, essentially, the other day.
But if you let people remove it from Firefox, then how does that information get back to APT? That seems like that could be MORE confusing.
I think they mean the physical hardware, like the case/etc., not the specs.
That said, Palm has confirmed the Pre on Verizon for January, so... what are these people talking about?
But then, so was Bush... and much less democratically. So, really, it's as democratic as any other election has ever been, and if I recall correctly, wasn't even all that close.