ecasue that doesn't solve any of the problems. diesel is nasty, it still require reliance on foreign suppliers, bio diesel is not a practical replacement and diesel is more expensive the gas iun the US. It will be even more expensive as it continues to strive to the Europeans diesel standards.
If you double the average MPG of the fleet then it follows that fuel usage will drop in half. Since we use 19.5 million barrels a day and import roughly 9 million a day... We might actually stop funding dictatorships the world over in my lifetime.
I agree diesel isn't a long term solution, but only if you will concede that an electric car is not a short or even medium term solution. The fact is a TDI is far more efficient then even todays hybrids. No battery technology exists that can compete with modern clean diesel in any area much less the all important areas of cost and (overall) pollution. Storing electricity in batteries only makes sense to people who do not have a firm grasp of physics. There is no safe efficient way to store massive numbers of electrons in a portable manner.
Your heart is in the right place, but you need to understand that batteries are universally:
Toxic
Expensive
Heavy
Inefficient
Charging a battery will require up to 2x the energy that the battery will deliver back. So you waste the charge energy EVERY SINGLE DAY. Couple the production and delivery of 2x the electricity with the pollution footprint of manufacturing the battery and you begin to understand how the electric car might be far less "green" then just burning 1/2 the fuel we do now.
TDI is the answer for TODAY. Maybe the electric car tomorrow, but I seriously doubt it. My money on long term mobile energy is not in batteries but rather in compressed air. There is much less conversion energy required to store, it can be efficiently transported, etc.
Don't think with your heart, think with your brain!
How can it make economic sense? I'd much rather have a VW Sharan that gets 7 and still gets 40+ to the gallon. Why on earth are we trying to build electric cars that make no sense instead of using cheap, proven turbo-diesel technologies? Why can't I buy a car that will ride 7 and get 40+ to the gallon in the US? I'm baffled...
In the US tax code a business donating simply reduces that compaines "profit. It therefore only saves the company money if that company actually has profits to write off.
If you are not profitable then the donation doesn't save you jack. Sell it before it is worthless.
Yeah, bashing him for a move like this is kinda like tossing a sack full of kittens into a lake. I was not terribly impressed with Mr. Obama or Mc. Cain, but I'm willing to give anyone a chance. So far so good, more transparency, taking steps to close camp X-Ray. At this rate, and if he gets my extended family members who are in Iraq home soon I may even come to like him. But then again we are only two days in;-)
I agree. I would have bought one and donated another $50-$100, but I just couldn't justify spending $400 and an 800mhz machine. I'm also a long time Linux user and software hack who has been known to submit a patch or two on occasion, so discouraging people like me from buying one certainly didn't help OLPC.
Inexperienced users might use Access, maybe. But Postgres or MySQL? Seems like someone shooting to move up that rung up the ladder would likely start with a tutorial, I know I did.
I think story of The Mule could translate just fine with the right writer/director/actors. Other then that I'm with you, I just do not see how they can pull it off. Even Asimov admitted he never understood why the foundation series was so popular with Sci-Fi fans as it has little of the traditional blast-em and lots of good ole dialog.
Your modulator/demodulator (AKA MODEM) already compresses everything coming over the wire as part of the protocol it uses to communicate with the modem on the other end of the line. If you are using a "compression" service all you are doing is compressing compressed data, and then de-compressing it twice. If you have a sh*tty software modem you are doing the double de-compression on your CPU, and even if you have a real modem you are still going through the pointless extra step of decompressing again after the modem has already decompressed the data. Therefore compressing web pages for modem users is often fairly pointless and may actually increase the size of the data transfer in some situations. Mostly this will just eat clock cycles on the modem users CPU.
Yeah, that was my point. The Freerunner is an unlocked phone, you plug in any SIM card and it just works. I'm not sure why I'm being modded a Troll above, I'm just speaking the truth.
The big difference between this and an iPhone is you can plug nearly any sim-card into a freerunner and it just works. You have to open the case of your iPhone and solder things the last I heard to get equivalent functionality with an iPhone.
I tend to agree, I don't let my kids play video games or watch TV/Movies on week nights. On the weekend assuming all homeworks is done, their rooms are clean, all their chores are done, etc they can of course game as much as they want (as long as as-much-as-they-want isn't for more then about 2 hours straight;-)
This feature is worth nada to me, what I wish is that the game manufacturers would make it so I could point the machine towards a bank of test question (on the network PC, or even on the internet, maybe something like Moodle) Then every 5 minutes or so it would pause the game until they had answered X number of questions correctly (kinda like putting a couple of more quarters into the slot for more time...) Then I could check and see what questions they were having problems with so I know to go over those concepts with them again. Now THAT would be a cool feature even for those parents like myself who allow our kids to game, but don't use technology in general as a baby sitter. Besides, video games are far noisier then a book which is far more effective at keeping mine "out of my hair":-)
Going straight to astro-imaging is an recipe for a letdown. The best thing the submitter could do would be to first grab an old pair of binoculars and just learn the sky. Once he can name most every constellation on site he will already know where all the really cool "big" stuff in the sky is (all the Messier objects, as most are very apparent in any pair of binoculars under dark skies) and he will know where he needs to point his scope. THe first scope should probably be an 8-12" Dobson as it is trivial to setup and operate (an F6 8" is especially forgiving collimation wise also). Once he has done the whole visual observing thing for a while he will know whether the hobby might mean enough to him go onto astro-photography. If so he can buy or build an equatorial platform for the Dob and do some basic imaging with a CCD device. This will get him experience in stacking photos, aligning the scope, etc. If he is still interested at that point he can drop the $3-5k on a serious astro-photography setup.
Or he can buy some cheap piece of junk mount and try to do astro-photography for ~ $1k and be very disappointed.
My biggest piece of advice to the newby: Green laser pointer, you can see the beam. Mount it to your telescope, I built a mount of wood (drilled 3 holes, glued on two rare-earth magnets from think-geek, it took 10 minutes) or you can buy a $100 setup, but any way you cut it the green laser pointer will help you locate things in scope much, much faster. You simply aim the "canon" by pointing the laser at the spot in the sky you want to see. Other accessories very useful for the newb: right-angle corrected finder, laser collimator (get the "deluxe" so you can align your primary with the barlowed-laser approach)
Get a barlow so you can use the barlowed laser approach to colimate your primary, it makes it dead-simple. The Barlow of course also can be used to double the "power" of all your eyepieces so you need less glass to get going (good glass is very expensive)
Pay the $12 so you can shop at Astromart, you can pick up most everything 30-50% off there.
You already joined your astronomy club, this is good, Cloudy Nights is a great resource too, the people in the beginners forum are extremely friendly and helpful. The one CloudyNights star party I went to (Buck-Eye-On-The-Sky) this summer was a great place to learn from the masters and it was a lot of fun too.
Stelarrium rocks, there are a lot of other programs that work too, but Stellarium is dead-simple to use, perfect for the beginner, OSS, free, and it runs on anything with any 3d card.
Most importantly, Have fun! Seriously though download Stellarium onto your laptop. Take it and any pair of binoculars you can find and go out tonight about an hour after dark. Look to the south for the "teapot" that is Sagittarius, the center of our galaxy. It is just exploding with star-clusters and is a delight through binoculars, and Stellarium will guide you through what there is to see in it. If that doesn't do it for you, then a telescope isn't gonna help;-)
Here is what my feedback looked like: I think it is a serious mistake for the DNC to closely associate itself with the RIAA. The RIAA is despised in more technical literate circles, and increasingly at universities for their questionable legal maneuvers in their holy war against file sharing.
Close association with the RIAA reinforces stereotypes about the DNC being "no different" then the RNC as both are "owned by corporate interests". Please reconsider the decision to appoint Jenni Engebretsen to the Convention leadership team. I'm sure she is a great lady and did wonderful things for Kerry/Edwards, but I have serious problems with the morality of her employer. Her involvement at a leadership position casts a shadow over the entire Democratic party in my eyes, and in the eyes of many others.
Thanks for your time, a few links about the RIAA follow.
It is all relative, so it really depends on where you live. If you live in Southern California, they might not even bother mentioning any murders save for the really sensational ones... But you are talking about a metro area (SoCal) with more people (24 million) then all of Australia(20 million)... I doubt Australias national news news reports on Perths murders (except for the really sensational ones), but I could be wrong.
If you live in a smaller metro like here in Grand Rapids/Western MI a metro of about.75 million, all murders definitely make the news (as do the followups on who, what, when, and what the sentence was).
They did the same thing to me on a brand new $800 video camera back in the late 90s. I vowed to never buy anything Sony ever again, and so far I haven't.
I'll try and refine that into something he might actually answer...
1. With Ubuntu storming over the desktop, and the ever growing support for Debian among large corporations for server roles, where does that leave RH/Fedora?
2. Has the Fedora community seen growth in the last year? I know this is probably hard to measure, but I'm curous if your project has any metrics that would indicate whether Fedora is on the way up, or down at this point.
Maybe he is implying that since Gore likely wouldn't have invaded Iraq, we'd have an extra third of trillion or so in the budget to help out NOLa.
I don't think Democrats are gods gift to my personal freedom, far from it. I only vote for democrats because they are the lesser of two evils. They have in the last 30 years shown themselves to be more financially prudent. They also dont invadethird worldcountries.
If it were up to me all uniformed police would have to wear cameras and mics at all times so we could all watch the watchers. The government would stop spying on it's own people. We would legalize all the silly vices (sex, drugs) and tax them instead. The government would spend hundreds of billions on public transit and getting us off of foreign oil, not on trying to force democracies on countries that crave theocracies.
Most days I just wish we had a parliamentary system ala Iraq or Sweden where smaller parties could actually have a say, as there is no greater personal freedom then castinv a vote that actually counts.
You are right that Windows has COM and it works mostly. What you neglect to mention is that COM is the reason that a macro virus could email its self to everyone in your (Outlook) address book. COM works a little too well in many cases simply because it is ubiquitous on the win32 platform.
There was a/. article a while back on "diversity" being a natural defense against viruses in the real world and in the computer world. I agree that having to work with multiple RPC mechanisms on the desktop is cumbersome on the *nix side, but I wonder how different the windows virus scene would be without COM.
Their is no "free market" for ISPs. Dubya and crew made sure of that years ago when they ruled that cable companies don't have to share their networks. That is why I can get DSL from exactly one provider (SBC/ATT) and my only alternative is Comcast. So in this "free market" who the fuck am I supposed to buy my bandwidth from if both of those monopolies enforce this tiered Internet crap? (And don't tell me about Satellite, the latencies are too low for it to be a comparable product and it is expensive besides, Verizon Wireless? Guess what, they are on board with this idea too)
This is not a free market, this is a collection of monopolies playing the same tricks they have been playing for decades. They figured out a new way to extort the little guy and it looks like they will succeed in buying off congress to legislate their monopoly power far into the future.
We were all sunk years ago when dubya and crew decided that the cable monopolies didn't have to open up their network to competition (http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/News_Releases/20 02/nrcb0201.html) and further ruled that they are not subject to Common Carrier status. That effectively locked us into one of three monopolies for broadband (phone company, cable company, or power company in theory at least). In theory the phone companies must share their lines but in reality the cost structure is prohibitive to third parties as well. This action ensured that the smaller mom/pop ISPs would die and never be allowed to grow to offer real competition in the telecom sector (which would sink this whole tiered internet idea as I could just switch providers if Comcast decided to implement it).
The fact that the industries are now using their monopoly/oligopoly power to extort other businesses upstream should not come as a surprise. In fact I would imagine those same lovely republicans would call this "innovation" as the monopolists did figure out a new extortion/business model. The rich get richer, the little guy gets screwed, and life goes on. Watch another episode of American Idle and eat your Mc Donalds numbskull and don't think so much, your ruining the (old) economy with your "fair play" terrorist talk.
You assume the legislator actually gives a sh*t about what his constituents think. My guess is they care a lot more about what the people lining their pockets think.
That is because you have never done any work in 3D graphics. It isn't at all unusual for the video memory to have incredible write speeds and painfully slow read speeds (back to the CPU that is). The reason is that in 3d graphics the video card does the actual rendering. Therefore you simply tell it "I want a blue triangle at the coordinates X,Y,Z (x3) with T texture applied". The card renders it and applies the texture from texture memory and then displays it onto the screen. You never need to read the (texture) memory, because the data contained in it is throw away (why would you need to read the texture in that you sent to the card?)
So it is perfectly normal for texture memory to be nearly write-only. As long as writing to it is extremely fast (which it is in this case according to the PP slide), that isn't a problem.
Non-competes are pretty much standard fair in the software biz AFAICT, or at least every job I've ever been offered required one.. The "non-compete" agreement usually indicates that you can't go to work for a competitor or steal a bunch of company talent and start your own competitor. From what I can tell this was just Apple starting up a support center in India, so it wasn't software dev.. So your "they should just leave and make something better" comment doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
It was a pretty stupid move anyway IMHO as Apple charges an arm and a leg for their stuff and people pay the premium to have a premium experience. If I want to talk to tech support in India, I'll just buy a Dell for half the cost.
The UStream.tv stuff seems broken. None if it will play with FF on Linux even with the Flash 9 player installed.
If you double the average MPG of the fleet then it follows that fuel usage will drop in half. Since we use 19.5 million barrels a day and import roughly 9 million a day... We might actually stop funding dictatorships the world over in my lifetime.
I agree diesel isn't a long term solution, but only if you will concede that an electric car is not a short or even medium term solution. The fact is a TDI is far more efficient then even todays hybrids. No battery technology exists that can compete with modern clean diesel in any area much less the all important areas of cost and (overall) pollution. Storing electricity in batteries only makes sense to people who do not have a firm grasp of physics. There is no safe efficient way to store massive numbers of electrons in a portable manner.
Your heart is in the right place, but you need to understand that batteries are universally:
Charging a battery will require up to 2x the energy that the battery will deliver back. So you waste the charge energy EVERY SINGLE DAY. Couple the production and delivery of 2x the electricity with the pollution footprint of manufacturing the battery and you begin to understand how the electric car might be far less "green" then just burning 1/2 the fuel we do now.
TDI is the answer for TODAY. Maybe the electric car tomorrow, but I seriously doubt it. My money on long term mobile energy is not in batteries but rather in compressed air. There is much less conversion energy required to store, it can be efficiently transported, etc.
Don't think with your heart, think with your brain!
How can it make economic sense? I'd much rather have a VW Sharan that gets 7 and still gets 40+ to the gallon. Why on earth are we trying to build electric cars that make no sense instead of using cheap, proven turbo-diesel technologies? Why can't I buy a car that will ride 7 and get 40+ to the gallon in the US? I'm baffled...
In the US tax code a business donating simply reduces that compaines "profit. It therefore only saves the company money if that company actually has profits to write off.
If you are not profitable then the donation doesn't save you jack. Sell it before it is worthless.
Yeah, bashing him for a move like this is kinda like tossing a sack full of kittens into a lake. I was not terribly impressed with Mr. Obama or Mc. Cain, but I'm willing to give anyone a chance. So far so good, more transparency, taking steps to close camp X-Ray. At this rate, and if he gets my extended family members who are in Iraq home soon I may even come to like him. But then again we are only two days in ;-)
I agree. I would have bought one and donated another $50-$100, but I just couldn't justify spending $400 and an 800mhz machine. I'm also a long time Linux user and software hack who has been known to submit a patch or two on occasion, so discouraging people like me from buying one certainly didn't help OLPC.
Inexperienced users use client/server databases?
Inexperienced users might use Access, maybe. But Postgres or MySQL? Seems like someone shooting to move up that rung up the ladder would likely start with a tutorial, I know I did.
I think story of The Mule could translate just fine with the right writer/director/actors. Other then that I'm with you, I just do not see how they can pull it off. Even Asimov admitted he never understood why the foundation series was so popular with Sci-Fi fans as it has little of the traditional blast-em and lots of good ole dialog.
Your modulator/demodulator (AKA MODEM) already compresses everything coming over the wire as part of the protocol it uses to communicate with the modem on the other end of the line. If you are using a "compression" service all you are doing is compressing compressed data, and then de-compressing it twice. If you have a sh*tty software modem you are doing the double de-compression on your CPU, and even if you have a real modem you are still going through the pointless extra step of decompressing again after the modem has already decompressed the data. Therefore compressing web pages for modem users is often fairly pointless and may actually increase the size of the data transfer in some situations. Mostly this will just eat clock cycles on the modem users CPU.
Try Firefox, it has spellcheck built in.
Yeah, that was my point. The Freerunner is an unlocked phone, you plug in any SIM card and it just works. I'm not sure why I'm being modded a Troll above, I'm just speaking the truth.
The big difference between this and an iPhone is you can plug nearly any sim-card into a freerunner and it just works. You have to open the case of your iPhone and solder things the last I heard to get equivalent functionality with an iPhone.
Nice troll, BTW.
I tend to agree, I don't let my kids play video games or watch TV/Movies on week nights. On the weekend assuming all homeworks is done, their rooms are clean, all their chores are done, etc they can of course game as much as they want (as long as as-much-as-they-want isn't for more then about 2 hours straight ;-)
:-)
This feature is worth nada to me, what I wish is that the game manufacturers would make it so I could point the machine towards a bank of test question (on the network PC, or even on the internet, maybe something like Moodle) Then every 5 minutes or so it would pause the game until they had answered X number of questions correctly (kinda like putting a couple of more quarters into the slot for more time...) Then I could check and see what questions they were having problems with so I know to go over those concepts with them again. Now THAT would be a cool feature even for those parents like myself who allow our kids to game, but don't use technology in general as a baby sitter. Besides, video games are far noisier then a book which is far more effective at keeping mine "out of my hair"
Or he can buy some cheap piece of junk mount and try to do astro-photography for ~ $1k and be very disappointed.
My biggest piece of advice to the newby: Green laser pointer, you can see the beam. Mount it to your telescope, I built a mount of wood (drilled 3 holes, glued on two rare-earth magnets from think-geek, it took 10 minutes) or you can buy a $100 setup, but any way you cut it the green laser pointer will help you locate things in scope much, much faster. You simply aim the "canon" by pointing the laser at the spot in the sky you want to see. Other accessories very useful for the newb: right-angle corrected finder, laser collimator (get the "deluxe" so you can align your primary with the barlowed-laser approach)
Get a barlow so you can use the barlowed laser approach to colimate your primary, it makes it dead-simple. The Barlow of course also can be used to double the "power" of all your eyepieces so you need less glass to get going (good glass is very expensive)
Pay the $12 so you can shop at Astromart, you can pick up most everything 30-50% off there.
You already joined your astronomy club, this is good, Cloudy Nights is a great resource too, the people in the beginners forum are extremely friendly and helpful. The one CloudyNights star party I went to (Buck-Eye-On-The-Sky) this summer was a great place to learn from the masters and it was a lot of fun too.
Stelarrium rocks, there are a lot of other programs that work too, but Stellarium is dead-simple to use, perfect for the beginner, OSS, free, and it runs on anything with any 3d card.
Most importantly, Have fun! Seriously though download Stellarium onto your laptop. Take it and any pair of binoculars you can find and go out tonight about an hour after dark. Look to the south for the "teapot" that is Sagittarius, the center of our galaxy. It is just exploding with star-clusters and is a delight through binoculars, and Stellarium will guide you through what there is to see in it. If that doesn't do it for you, then a telescope isn't gonna help ;-)
I for one am leaving the DNC feedback on their feedback page:
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http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contactissues
Here is what my feedback looked like:
I think it is a serious mistake for the DNC to closely associate itself with the RIAA. The RIAA is despised in more technical literate circles, and increasingly at universities for their questionable legal maneuvers in their holy war against file sharing.
Close association with the RIAA reinforces stereotypes about the DNC being "no different" then the RNC as both are "owned by corporate interests". Please reconsider the decision to appoint Jenni Engebretsen to the Convention leadership team. I'm sure she is a great lady and did wonderful things for Kerry/Edwards, but I have serious problems with the morality of her employer. Her involvement at a leadership position casts a shadow over the entire Democratic party in my eyes, and in the eyes of many others.
Thanks for your time, a few links about the RIAA follow.
http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/07/04/13/16
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061219/121441.
http://www.riaaradar.com/
http://consumerist.com/consumer/worst-company-in-
It is all relative, so it really depends on where you live. If you live in Southern California, they might not even bother mentioning any murders save for the really sensational ones... But you are talking about a metro area (SoCal) with more people (24 million) then all of Australia(20 million)... I doubt Australias national news news reports on Perths murders (except for the really sensational ones), but I could be wrong.
.75 million, all murders definitely make the news (as do the followups on who, what, when, and what the sentence was).
If you live in a smaller metro like here in Grand Rapids/Western MI a metro of about
It is all about scale my friend.
They did the same thing to me on a brand new $800 video camera back in the late 90s. I vowed to never buy anything Sony ever again, and so far I haven't.
I'll try and refine that into something he might actually answer...
1. With Ubuntu storming over the desktop, and the ever growing support for Debian among large corporations for server roles, where does that leave RH/Fedora?
2. Has the Fedora community seen growth in the last year? I know this is probably hard to measure, but I'm curous if your project has any metrics that would indicate whether Fedora is on the way up, or down at this point.
Maybe he is implying that since Gore likely wouldn't have invaded Iraq, we'd have an extra third of trillion or so in the budget to help out NOLa.
I don't think Democrats are gods gift to my personal freedom, far from it. I only vote for democrats because they are the lesser of two evils. They have in the last 30 years shown themselves to be more financially prudent. They also dont invade third world countries.
If it were up to me all uniformed police would have to wear cameras and mics at all times so we could all watch the watchers. The government would stop spying on it's own people. We would legalize all the silly vices (sex, drugs) and tax them instead. The government would spend hundreds of billions on public transit and getting us off of foreign oil, not on trying to force democracies on countries that crave theocracies.
Most days I just wish we had a parliamentary system ala Iraq or Sweden where smaller parties could actually have a say, as there is no greater personal freedom then castinv a vote that actually counts.
You are right that Windows has COM and it works mostly. What you neglect to mention is that COM is the reason that a macro virus could email its self to everyone in your (Outlook) address book. COM works a little too well in many cases simply because it is ubiquitous on the win32 platform.
/. article a while back on "diversity" being a natural defense against viruses in the real world and in the computer world. I agree that having to work with multiple RPC mechanisms on the desktop is cumbersome on the *nix side, but I wonder how different the windows virus scene would be without COM.
There was a
Their is no "free market" for ISPs. Dubya and crew made sure of that years ago when they ruled that cable companies don't have to share their networks. That is why I can get DSL from exactly one provider (SBC/ATT) and my only alternative is Comcast. So in this "free market" who the fuck am I supposed to buy my bandwidth from if both of those monopolies enforce this tiered Internet crap? (And don't tell me about Satellite, the latencies are too low for it to be a comparable product and it is expensive besides, Verizon Wireless? Guess what, they are on board with this idea too)
This is not a free market, this is a collection of monopolies playing the same tricks they have been playing for decades. They figured out a new way to extort the little guy and it looks like they will succeed in buying off congress to legislate their monopoly power far into the future.
We were all sunk years ago when dubya and crew decided that the cable monopolies didn't have to open up their network to competition (http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/News_Releases/2
The fact that the industries are now using their monopoly/oligopoly power to extort other businesses upstream should not come as a surprise. In fact I would imagine those same lovely republicans would call this "innovation" as the monopolists did figure out a new extortion/business model. The rich get richer, the little guy gets screwed, and life goes on. Watch another episode of American Idle and eat your Mc Donalds numbskull and don't think so much, your ruining the (old) economy with your "fair play" terrorist talk.
You assume the legislator actually gives a sh*t about what his constituents think. My guess is they care a lot more about what the people lining their pockets think.
That is because you have never done any work in 3D graphics. It isn't at all unusual for the video memory to have incredible write speeds and painfully slow read speeds (back to the CPU that is). The reason is that in 3d graphics the video card does the actual rendering. Therefore you simply tell it "I want a blue triangle at the coordinates X,Y,Z (x3) with T texture applied". The card renders it and applies the texture from texture memory and then displays it onto the screen. You never need to read the (texture) memory, because the data contained in it is throw away (why would you need to read the texture in that you sent to the card?)
So it is perfectly normal for texture memory to be nearly write-only. As long as writing to it is extremely fast (which it is in this case according to the PP slide), that isn't a problem.
Non-competes are pretty much standard fair in the software biz AFAICT, or at least every job I've ever been offered required one.. The "non-compete" agreement usually indicates that you can't go to work for a competitor or steal a bunch of company talent and start your own competitor. From what I can tell this was just Apple starting up a support center in India, so it wasn't software dev.. So your "they should just leave and make something better" comment doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
It was a pretty stupid move anyway IMHO as Apple charges an arm and a leg for their stuff and people pay the premium to have a premium experience. If I want to talk to tech support in India, I'll just buy a Dell for half the cost.