Sorry... I just have to say this. CDs are incredibly inconvenient. I have several hundred of them at the house, not that they do me any good at work, or in the car, or while on vacation. I had to go through the time-consuming process of "ripping" them just to make them convenient enough to be fairly portable. I do not think many people are arguing that the artists and songwriters shouldn't get paid. I don't think the model we have now where Britney Spears becomes a multi-millionaire is going to survive either however.
Perhaps more artists will be forced to tour constantly to earn a living. Gone will be the good old days when they could just set back, get fat/stoned/whatever off royalty money. It breaks my heart to know that they will have to WORK ON AVERAGE 40 OR MORE HOURS A WEEK 50 WEEKS A YEAR to get by. I mean, that should be criminal. What if we were all forced to do that?!
Perhaps songwriters will be forced to move to a flat fee system instead of getting royalty checks until the cows come home (oh the horror! Only getting payed ONCE for something instead of for the rest of your life! Blasphemy!)
Delphi stomp who what? I think you mean VB an Java, not Delphi. ( I started with Delphi and remember it fondly, but you don't run across it much in the business world and never have). The reason VB succeeded is obvious, however the Java smash is more subtle. The real key in the enterprise is databases. There is no "one true way" of accessing a database through C++ (ALA JDBC or whatever model VB is using these days, it was ADO when I last had a VB contract.)
The IDEs do also cater to the business community, probably why you don't see more Perl. The fact is "business software" is usually just glue, and Perl/Python/Java/VB/tcl will always be better glue then C++, because they were DESIGNED to be glue and C++ was designed to be the bricks and mortar.
What I would really like to see in C++ would be compile-time exception enforcement ALA Java. I mean Jesus, when you are trying to work with a class library they can't even document what functions may throw what, how the hell are you supposed to write robust code? In Java this documentation comes for free when you write the function, and is forced to be correct by the compiler.
Wow, you installed a new OS, wrote some arcane code just so you wouldn't have to remember to turn on your scanner? Congratulations.
I can't believe I'm biting on such an obvious troll, but here it goes...
No, I wrote a tiny shell script (a lot like a batch file for those stuck in the windows world) that automates the re-loading of the driver. I did this so I wouldn't have to reboot the computer just to use the scanner. The computer goes down occasionally when I go on vacation or install new PCI card or a new kernel, but I have no urge to reboot it every time I need the scanner.
In no particular order... 1 netfilter (firewalling) 2 hotloading/unloading device drivers 3 software raid
1. I know windows has some limited firewalling, but it is really a joke compared to iptables. SNAT/DNAT/TOS/Full customizable logging/Packet Mangling/ARP/TTL, I could go on. Many many commercial firewalls are based on linux, just look around.
2. I still have a windows box for my wife/kids. I used to have a scanner hooked up to it via an Adaptec 2904 SCSI adapter. Problem is windows would only "scan the bus" on boot, so if it wasn't turned on when I booted the machine (had to turn scanner off when not in use as the lamp stayed on all the time) I had to reboot windows. Moved it to my Linux machine, now I just rmmod aic7xxx then modprobe aic7xxx every time I want the scanner. I even wrote a tiny little shell script and put an icon on the desktop so my wife/kids can do it.
#3 is a life saver to. At work we have a Linux backup server that has four 60 gig IDE hard drives in a raid5. The whole thing cost us less then $700 2 years ago for 180 gigs of file server/backup space. We are upgrading the drives to 120 gigs soon to double our space. Nothing like having 60 days of full backups a click away.
I could actually go on and on and on. It is astonishing how many usefull features are in the Linux kernel (not to mention the user-space stuff). I converted from windows three years ago now and I can't ever imagine going back. Windows is just so... limited.
I own over 200 cds. You really expect me to dig through them once and hour and decide what I want to hear next? Or listen to the same 5 or 6 CD in rotation? Or perhaps you expect me to shell out a wad of cash for some monstrosity that will hold all 200? Don't I atleast own right to listen to the music on the CDs I bought? I have a 5 Gig Ogg collection. I only had to dig all my CDs out of the hall closet once to rip them. It was a long painfull process and I have no urge to ever do it again.
It is about convencience, just like every other new household appliance in the history of man. If you owned all the music you listen to you would understand.
A serious question... do you feel the internet should be a free experience?
The internet experience is not free. I pay $50 a month for my DSL service. Even if you don't count my quasi-fixed investment in the computer itself and the network that it operates on the internet is in no way "free".
Do you experience any feelings at all concerning the revenue impacting mode in which you operate?
There were web sites before there was an ad supported revenue model, and there will still be web sites after all the ad supported sites are dead and gone (RIP).
Trolltech has a (free) tool to do that. It is called qmake. It will generate a "project file" for you, then you generate a makefile from that (again with qmake). It is insanely simple, works anywhere QT does (including compilers other then GCC, like M$VC++, BCC, ICC, etc)
Caliber: an assault rifle is usually smaller caliber than a machine gun. For example, the M-16 assault rifle fires 5.56 mm NATO rounds, while the M-60 machine gun fires.50 inch rounds.
Actually, no. A M60 fires 7.62mm NATO rounds, which is a 30 caliber round not unlike those used in 30-06 hunting rifles. You are correct about the M16 firing 5.56 however. There are 50 caliber machine guns, but the M60 is not one of them.
Would this work? Install, then configure on one machine. Pull the hard drive out and put it in another box with a CDR. Make a bootable CD where init is replaced with a small C/C++/perl/python/whatever app. The app runs parted then mkfs to partition/format hda. Then it simply copies the image onto the drive, mounts it, then runs lilo. If you only have a few types of video cards you can even try to get X working using lspci and a bit of grep magic.
I haven't tried it, but I have copied my / from on HD to the next three times now and it doesn't seem to care.
On another note... Doesn't RH have a unmanned install mode? I'm a debian guy myself, but I seem to remember RH had some tools to do auto-installs.
Is a daemon that would work as a server for evolution ala exchange. Now if I could get exchange without Windows and Evolution on every desktop (even the ones with windows) I would buy.
I think it is great that they are trying, but really, how many companies have linux on every desktop? I can't see taking our sales/marketing/support staff off Windows.
The problem with evolutions is that is doesn't run on windows, so it is fairly usless to mixed shops. Also, it only supports exchange AFAIK when it comes to calendar/scheduling. In theory it supports LDAP for the address book, but the gloss factor in the manual on that point is very high. (see for yourself: here)
I know that the small software company I work for would love to have Evolution on every desktop (windows and linux) using LDAP for a shared address book and calendar, but it just can't happen today. Oh well, here is hoping that the Kompany can get Aethera right sometime this decade...
I agree, there is no rationale for having a choice in any matter is there? I mean choice is bad.. And if the BNET network goes down or is laggy, or Blizzard folds tommorrow ala Cavedog & Boneyard.net we should all just sit around and hammer our shlangs cause that is what legitimate people should do.
I keep seeing people in the thread saying "yeah, it might be a bit laggy, but that is OK". I don't know about you, but when I'm playing BZFlag or RTCW, or UT, or whatever and the server is laggy... I LEAVE AND FIND ANOTHER SERVER.
Get a grip dude, choice is good thing. I haven't bought/played a Blizzard game since Diablo/Starcraft because I gave up Windoze back then, but If I could play WCIII on linux and I could host my own game on my own server (now there is a novel concept) I would rush out and buy it (mostly cause I love the RTS genre).
The fact is if I can't play on my Linux box, or I can't even host my own game on my own server... Well then I will stick to the games I can play & host on my box. So I guess I see more bzflag and RTCW in my future... (and hoping TA2 plays under Linux!)
Hey Taco, dosen't work on the latest Mozilla release(Build 2002020415). I get no paypal logo at all. Sucks to 'cause I would gladly pay, even through (ugh) Paypal.
My mom surfs the web and checks her email. Maybe on a weird day she might spark up a word processor. Linux does all three of these things fine... I put it on her box and the support calls from here nearly stopped.
Linux is great (on the desktop) for gurus and complete newbies. For everyone between Windows is king of the destop.
While browsing through the kernel mailing list a while back... I noticed a post that went unanswered about some specific problems Google was having with 2.4 kernels and the new/old VM.
It seems obvious from this post that Google can't use 2.4 until this gets worked out, and Google is one of Linux's big success stories...
How does that weigh in on the todo scale versus my problem with the Visor driver? What if it was Connectiva that had the problem? (Or Redhat?)
(and a quick second question: How can any human read teh 7000 posts a month to the mailing list and still get any coding done?)
Here is a link to an old Linux World article talking about how HP had/has a product that is a drop in replacement for M$ Exchange.
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I do have the Intel branded motherboard (850GB). In a two year-old generic ATX case which housed a Pentium 100.
Err, the ATX didn't come about till the PII era. How did you manage to get an AT motherboard (100mhz is a P5 and most certainly on an AT MB at that clock speed) in a ATX case?
This could really be a good thing. They could fix many of the "problems" that prevent Linux from dominating the desktop.
Setting a standard set of APIs for stuff like the clipboard, file associations, desktop integration, etc. The Windoze way to handle clipboard stuff is to first "register" a type for the data you are placing there. Most apps use a canned type and therefore you can cut and paste between almost any windows program. Why is it bad for things to work? Couldn't we do the same thing in X with a XML spec of some sort?
And how about standardizing the interface a bit. I can't tell you how hard it is to explain to my wife that in KMail you use CTRL+C to copy, but then to paste it in Netscape you push the middle mouse button, and hope...
Not to mention the 15 different file open dialogs I see every day. Some of them are really rotten too...
I love Linux, don't get me wrong. However, I believe that standardizing some of the more obvious stuff for the GUI crowd would benefit us all immensely.
Device3Dfx is the source for the actual driver, the second is the "developer" package, the third is the Glide runtime stuff. I believe you need all three.
First, su -. The source rpm I just did an rpm -i on. This puts the sources in/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES. I then went to that directory, and did a make. When the make is finished you should have a 3dfx.o file in the same directory. This is your voodoo driver. Copy it to/lib/modules/yourkernelname where yourkernelname is the name of the kernel you are using.
Now check/dev for a file name 3dfx, mine looks like so: workstation:/usr/local/rpms# ls -l/dev/3dfx crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 107, 0 Feb 1 03:45/dev/3dfx
Next I did an rpm -i on the other two RPMs. Now go to/usr/local/glide/bin and run the test programs (I believe there are three). They should work. If not try to do a ldconfig first then try them again. If they work, try running the tests as a non super user. If they work as root, and not super user, then check your permisions on the/dev/3dfx file.
Mine works great. I play UT all the time, and I even dabble in Mesa (OpenGL) programming and the acceleration works fine.
The really scarry part is, how good is the pattern matching really? Sure, they say it is great, but I'm skeptical. I have yet to see OCR software that worked reliably and that is a order of magnitude less complicated then this. I would really be interested to see what the type II error rate is....
One a semi-related note:
Now imagine, you are a peacefull demonstrator at the Republican National Convention and the police system identifies you as a "ring leader" and haul you off to jail for inciting... Err.. Wait, that already happens dosen't it?
When Windows crashes you blame the OS... When Linux crashes you start troubleshooting your hardware.
I had a similar problems with my P2 box. NT went down every few days, so I tried linux. When linux crashed too, that clued me in... I replaced the memory and now the box works like a charm. I never went back to Windows either;-)
Err. to keep this on topic: I would LOVE to try the OSX shell running on top of my favorite Linux distro. Now why can't apple figure out that there is very little money to be make in low-end hardware, and start selling a nice cross-platform GUI that the world could fall in love with? Worked for M$ (everything but the cross-platform part that is)
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Sorry... I just have to say this. CDs are incredibly inconvenient. I have several hundred of them at the house, not that they do me any good at work, or in the car, or while on vacation. I had to go through the time-consuming process of "ripping" them just to make them convenient enough to be fairly portable. I do not think many people are arguing that the artists and songwriters shouldn't get paid. I don't think the model we have now where Britney Spears becomes a multi-millionaire is going to survive either however.
Perhaps more artists will be forced to tour constantly to earn a living. Gone will be the good old days when they could just set back, get fat/stoned/whatever off royalty money. It breaks my heart to know that they will have to WORK ON AVERAGE 40 OR MORE HOURS A WEEK 50 WEEKS A YEAR to get by. I mean, that should be criminal. What if we were all forced to do that?!
Perhaps songwriters will be forced to move to a flat fee system instead of getting royalty checks until the cows come home (oh the horror! Only getting payed ONCE for something instead of for the rest of your life! Blasphemy!)
The IDEs do also cater to the business community, probably why you don't see more Perl. The fact is "business software" is usually just glue, and Perl/Python/Java/VB/tcl will always be better glue then C++, because they were DESIGNED to be glue and C++ was designed to be the bricks and mortar.
What I would really like to see in C++ would be compile-time exception enforcement ALA Java. I mean Jesus, when you are trying to work with a class library they can't even document what functions may throw what, how the hell are you supposed to write robust code? In Java this documentation comes for free when you write the function, and is forced to be correct by the compiler.
I can't believe I'm biting on such an obvious troll, but here it goes...
No, I wrote a tiny shell script (a lot like a batch file for those stuck in the windows world) that automates the re-loading of the driver. I did this so I wouldn't have to reboot the computer just to use the scanner. The computer goes down occasionally when I go on vacation or install new PCI card or a new kernel, but I have no urge to reboot it every time I need the scanner.
In no particular order...
1 netfilter (firewalling)
2 hotloading/unloading device drivers
3 software raid
1. I know windows has some limited firewalling, but it is really a joke compared to iptables. SNAT/DNAT/TOS/Full customizable logging/Packet Mangling/ARP/TTL, I could go on. Many many commercial firewalls are based on linux, just look around.
2. I still have a windows box for my wife/kids. I used to have a scanner hooked up to it via an Adaptec 2904 SCSI adapter. Problem is windows would only "scan the bus" on boot, so if it wasn't turned on when I booted the machine (had to turn scanner off when not in use as the lamp stayed on all the time) I had to reboot windows.
Moved it to my Linux machine, now I just rmmod aic7xxx then modprobe aic7xxx every time I want the scanner. I even wrote a tiny little shell script and put an icon on the desktop so my wife/kids can do it.
#3 is a life saver to. At work we have a Linux backup server that has four 60 gig IDE hard drives in a raid5. The whole thing cost us less then $700 2 years ago for 180 gigs of file server/backup space. We are upgrading the drives to 120 gigs soon to double our space. Nothing like having 60 days of full backups a click away.
I could actually go on and on and on. It is astonishing how many usefull features are in the Linux kernel (not to mention the user-space stuff). I converted from windows three years ago now and I can't ever imagine going back. Windows is just so... limited.
So what does
DONT SPREAD THE FUD. Java is far more portable then
They have already done it, it is called FREENET and you can find it on sourceforge.
Ok, I will bite troll.
I own over 200 cds. You really expect me to dig through them once and hour and decide what I want to hear next? Or listen to the same 5 or 6 CD in rotation? Or perhaps you expect me to shell out a wad of cash for some monstrosity that will hold all 200? Don't I atleast own right to listen to the music on the CDs I bought? I have a 5 Gig Ogg collection. I only had to dig all my CDs out of the hall closet once to rip them. It was a long painfull process and I have no urge to ever do it again.
It is about convencience, just like every other new household appliance in the history of man. If you owned all the music you listen to you would understand.
The internet experience is not free. I pay $50 a month for my DSL service. Even if you don't count my quasi-fixed investment in the computer itself and the network that it operates on the internet is in no way "free".
There were web sites before there was an ad supported revenue model, and there will still be web sites after all the ad supported sites are dead and gone (RIP).
Trolltech has a (free) tool to do that. It is called qmake. It will generate a "project file" for you, then you generate a makefile from that (again with qmake). It is insanely simple, works anywhere QT does (including compilers other then GCC, like M$VC++, BCC, ICC, etc)
Would this work? Install, then configure on one machine. Pull the hard drive out and put it in another box with a CDR. Make a bootable CD where init is replaced with a small C/C++/perl/python/whatever app. The app runs parted then mkfs to partition/format hda. Then it simply copies the image onto the drive, mounts it, then runs lilo. If you only have a few types of video cards you can even try to get X working using lspci and a bit of grep magic.
I haven't tried it, but I have copied my / from on HD to the next three times now and it doesn't seem to care.
On another note... Doesn't RH have a unmanned install mode? I'm a debian guy myself, but I seem to remember RH had some tools to do auto-installs.
Is a daemon that would work as a server for evolution ala exchange. Now if I could get exchange without Windows and Evolution on every desktop (even the ones with windows) I would buy.
I think it is great that they are trying, but really, how many companies have linux on every desktop? I can't see taking our sales/marketing/support staff off Windows.
The problem with evolutions is that is doesn't run on windows, so it is fairly usless to mixed shops. Also, it only supports exchange AFAIK when it comes to calendar/scheduling. In theory it supports LDAP for the address book, but the gloss factor in the manual on that point is very high. (see for yourself: here)
I know that the small software company I work for would love to have Evolution on every desktop (windows and linux) using LDAP for a shared address book and calendar, but it just can't happen today. Oh well, here is hoping that the Kompany can get Aethera right sometime this decade...
I agree, there is no rationale for having a choice in any matter is there? I mean choice is bad.. And if the BNET network goes down or is laggy, or Blizzard folds tommorrow ala Cavedog & Boneyard.net we should all just sit around and hammer our shlangs cause that is what legitimate people should do.
I keep seeing people in the thread saying "yeah, it might be a bit laggy, but that is OK". I don't know about you, but when I'm playing BZFlag or RTCW, or UT, or whatever and the server is laggy... I LEAVE AND FIND ANOTHER SERVER.
Get a grip dude, choice is good thing. I haven't bought/played a Blizzard game since Diablo/Starcraft because I gave up Windoze back then, but If I could play WCIII on linux and I could host my own game on my own server (now there is a novel concept) I would rush out and buy it (mostly cause I love the RTS genre).
The fact is if I can't play on my Linux box, or I can't even host my own game on my own server... Well then I will stick to the games I can play & host on my box. So I guess I see more bzflag and RTCW in my future... (and hoping TA2 plays under Linux!)
Hey Taco, dosen't work on the latest Mozilla release(Build 2002020415). I get no paypal logo at all. Sucks to 'cause I would gladly pay, even through (ugh) Paypal.
When PDAs do wind up in the general consumer market, what they buy will be driven primarily by cost, just like every other consumer good.
Err... Is that why everyone I know uses a $250+ copy of MS Office and a $250+ MS Win2k/XP or a $100+ Win98/ME?
Consumers buy what the marketing droids tell them to and little else.
My mom surfs the web and checks her email. Maybe on a weird day she might spark up a word processor. Linux does all three of these things fine... I put it on her box and the support calls from here nearly stopped.
Linux is great (on the desktop) for gurus and complete newbies. For everyone between Windows is king of the destop.
While browsing through the kernel mailing list a while back... I noticed a post that went unanswered about some specific problems Google was having with 2.4 kernels and the new/old VM.
It seems obvious from this post that Google can't use 2.4 until this gets worked out, and Google is one of Linux's big success stories...
How does that weigh in on the todo scale versus my problem with the Visor driver? What if it was Connectiva that had the problem? (Or Redhat?)
(and a quick second question: How can any human read teh 7000 posts a month to the mailing list and still get any coding done?)
Here is a link to an old Linux World article talking about how HP had/has a product that is a drop in replacement for M$ Exchange.
This could really be a good thing. They could fix many of the "problems" that prevent Linux from dominating the desktop.
Setting a standard set of APIs for stuff like the clipboard, file associations, desktop integration, etc. The Windoze way to handle clipboard stuff is to first "register" a type for the data you are placing there. Most apps use a canned type and therefore you can cut and paste between almost any windows program. Why is it bad for things to work? Couldn't we do the same thing in X with a XML spec of some sort?
And how about standardizing the interface a bit. I can't tell you how hard it is to explain to my wife that in KMail you use CTRL+C to copy, but then to paste it in Netscape you push the middle mouse button, and hope...
Not to mention the 15 different file open dialogs I see every day. Some of them are really rotten too...
I love Linux, don't get me wrong. However, I believe that standardizing some of the more obvious stuff for the GUI crowd would benefit us all immensely.
I have a VoodooII 8 meg PCI. I recently got it working under Debian. The following is how:
. rpm
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES. I then went to that directory, and did a make. When the make is finished you should have a 3dfx.o file in the same directory. This is your voodoo driver. Copy it to /lib/modules/yourkernelname where yourkernelname is the name of the kernel you are using.
/dev for a file name 3dfx, mine looks like so: /dev/3dfx /dev/3dfx
/usr/local/glide/bin and run the test programs (I believe there are three). They should work. If not try to do a ldconfig first then try them again. If they work, try running the tests as a non super user. If they work as root, and not super user, then check your permisions on the /dev/3dfx file.
These are the three RPMs I used.
Device3Dfx-2.3-5.src.rpm
Glide_SDK-2.2-14.i386
Glide_V2-2.53-6.i386.rpm
Device3Dfx is the source for the actual driver, the second is the "developer" package, the third is the Glide runtime stuff. I believe you need all three.
First, su -.
The source rpm I just did an rpm -i on. This puts the sources in
Now check
workstation:/usr/local/rpms# ls -l
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 107, 0 Feb 1 03:45
Next I did an rpm -i on the other two RPMs. Now go to
Mine works great. I play UT all the time, and I even dabble in Mesa (OpenGL) programming and the acceleration works fine.
Good luck!
One a semi-related note:
Now imagine, you are a peacefull demonstrator at the Republican National Convention and the police system identifies you as a "ring leader" and haul you off to jail for inciting... Err.. Wait, that already happens dosen't it?
I had a similar problems with my P2 box. NT went down every few days, so I tried linux. When linux crashed too, that clued me in... I replaced the memory and now the box works like a charm. I never went back to Windows either ;-)
Err. to keep this on topic: I would LOVE to try the OSX shell running on top of my favorite Linux distro. Now why can't apple figure out that there is very little money to be make in low-end hardware, and start selling a nice cross-platform GUI that the world could fall in love with? Worked for M$ (everything but the cross-platform part that is)