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Slashback tonight with more on SBC's claim to own patents covering basic Web navigation techniques, an eyebrow-raising look at Slammer's spread, bad news for Ogg streams from the BBC, and more. Read on for the details. Update: 02/04 00:13 GMT by T : And late-breaking good news from SDF regarding its Public Access UNIX System.

FedEx should take notes. nweaver writes "We have completed our preliminary analysis of the Sapphire/Slammer SQL worm. This worm required roughly 10 minutes to spread worldwide, scanning at a peak rate of over 55 million IP addresses per second, making it by far the fastest worm to date and nearly two orders of magnitude faster than Code Red. It infected at least 75,000 victims and possibly considerably more. The remarkable speed was due to the use of a bandwidth-limited scanner. There were also two bugs in the random number generator. Copies of our analysis are available from CAIDA, Silicon Defense, and UC Berkeley."

"Sir, this patent application needs to filled out in ink. Not Crayon." We recently posted that the company SBC was calling in the chips on patents it holds which the company claim cover certain types of navigation links found on many web pages. Dan Gillmor writes "Noticed the link to Cringley's piece. Well, I did ask readers for prior art and got quite a bit, some of which I've posted..."

Speaking of SBC, theodp writes "The SBC Intellectual Property folks are back in the news, this time for donating a $7.3 million virus screening patent to the University of Texas. While patent donations are one of the latest twists on corporate philanthropy, the practice has aroused the curiosity of the IRS as a possible tax avoidance scheme."

I wonder how much they'd feel justified in writing off if they donated their web patent portfolio to the FSF.

Can we call this an on-again, off-again relationship? Albanach writes "It seems the BBC who had pioneered Ogg Vorbis broadcasting on a serious scale have abandoned Ogg indefinitely. They say other work commitments make Ogg support no longer a priority. Their statement can be read here"

What, and let all my pigeons escape? FedeTXF writes "We already love pop-up blocking in Mozilla and some other related browsers, now Blogzilla is reporting a great trick to get rid of embedded ads (banners and iframes) using plain CCS and the always amazing Mozilla flexibility and openness. Go check this page if you are anxious to see how to set it up."

Did you have your video camera trained on Columbia? Finally, Child of Apollo writes ""For anyone who has recorded video or taken photos that they believe may be of aid in the investigation of the Space Shuttle Columbia accident, NASA has established a special location on the Web where Internet users may upload their media files to be reviewed by NASA." Although sad news all around, thanks to pleasant for the link."

Here's the late-breaker. fonixmunkee writes "looks like SDF will return soon. a message stating that they negotiated a new contract graced the single page in the "members area" of the temporary www.lonestar.org, but did not cite who specifically with. a few different ideas were tossed around for hosting, so only time will tell with who. i also just today got an e-mail from the Washington State Attorney General's Office that offered a small ray (read: none) of hope for assistance with SDF's run-in with NWLink. (NWLink breached SDF's contract.) hope all is well soon." This is good news, especially so soon after SDF got the rug yanked from under them.

254 comments

  1. Valid CSS? by interiot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is that Mozilla trick valid CSS syntax? I've never seen anything like it before.

    1. Re:Valid CSS? by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nope, it doesn't validate with the w3c's CSS validator. Do we get to start making up random syntax like MSIE now?

    2. Re:Valid CSS? by CrocOS · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup, this sure is valid!

      The bits in square-brackets are attribute-matching: 'SRC' and 'HREF' are valid attributes, and the way that these are loaded is it is using a partial-match, which is why this works.

      Unfortunately, this does NOT save the bandwidth wasted by loading these sites: you are just telling 'zilla not to display them, but they are still downloaded and loaded, and any javascript (eg in the IFRAMEs) is still run, and so on.

      Still, it tidys things up nicely =)
      -Trav

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    3. Re:Valid CSS? by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 2, Informative

      The validator complains about using the *= combinator between selectors, but as far as I know, that's actually valid.

      Similarly, the validator bitches about things like a:hover:visited, which is accepted in most browsers that support CSS.

      The validator isn't all knowing, I guess.

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    4. Re:Valid CSS? by FatalTourist · · Score: 1

      Actually it says using plain CCS.
      So maybe it's valid CCS... whatever the hell that is. ;)

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    5. Re:Valid CSS? by KnightStalker · · Score: 3, Informative
      That's valid CSS3. I've been using this trick for months. One addition they don't have is selecting:
      *[action*="doubleclick"] * { display: none!important; }
      to turn off Doubleclick HTML ads.
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    6. Re:Valid CSS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only is it not valid, it's not for mozilla either. the 'trick' only works on Netscape7... as mozilla doesn't use 'user' profiles. (there is only a default system profile, which doesn't read any local .css files, for security reasons)
      if I'vw wrond correct me because i put the css code file into ever directory under program files/moxilla.org/mozilla and reloaded and still no change. nothing under documents and settings is even related to mozilla, so it obviously doesn't work with mozilla.

    7. Re:Valid CSS? by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not only is it not valid, it's not for mozilla either. the 'trick' only works on Netscape7... as mozilla doesn't use 'user' profiles. (there is only a default system profile, which doesn't read any local .css files, for security reasons)

      Wrong, wrong, wrong.

      I've been using a UserContent.css file since M17 that displays links italicized with no underlines. Under Unices, the file goes in $HOME/.galeon/mozilla/galeon/chrome. In Mozilla, the file goes into .mozilla/*.slt/chrome

      Maybe under Win9x, user profiles aren't used, in which case the file would just go into the default chrome directory. There may already be a UserContent.css file there; edit that.

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    8. Re:Valid CSS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you'vw definitely wrond.

    9. Re:Valid CSS? by rworne · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is cool. So does this mean I can:

      1. Block their crap by not seeing it displayed
      2. Waste advertisers' money by not having a pair of eyeballs see the ad
      3. Block it without anyone being able to tell I'm blocking

      All this for a small price of a bit of my bandwidth? Sign me up!

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    10. Re:Valid CSS? by Jim+the+Bad · · Score: 1

      On windows, you have to stick the file in C:\Documents and Settings\**username**\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\**random string**\chrome

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    11. Re:Valid CSS? by Alan_Smithee · · Score: 1

      (didn't see this mentioned yet)

      You can translate into english what those CSS selectors are doing:

      http://gallery.theopalgroup.com/selectoracle/

    12. Re:Valid CSS? by tuxracer · · Score: 1

      display: none will actually not even download the image (or flash or whatever). So you do save bandwidth. Mozilla (or other Gecko based browser) sees display: none and then starts loading the rest of the code and for any of the markup that matches the conditions set for something that is set for display: none it will skip over that and not download the resource. You can check this by clearning your cache, and putting "img { display: none }" in your UserContent.css file and then loading up pages and if you cleared your cache and not loaded any pages inbetween the time you put that in your UserContent.css file you will notice that no images get downloaded.

      I say Mozilla/Gecko based because they are the only type of browsers I know work like that. IE, Opera, etc... prolly work the same way, but I don't know because I haven't tested it like I have with Mozilla.

    13. Re:Valid CSS? by CrocOS · · Score: 1

      Cheers TR, I didn't know that one. I was under the impression that because the display property can be altered through the DOM that the content was still downloaded. Unfortunately I don't have Moz installed to try this out on.

      Cheers!
      -Trav

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    14. Re:Valid CSS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is the userContent.css file I've been using, extending little by little. I've been using rules that match the typical ad dimensions (728x90, 468x60, 336x90, 336x280, 300x250, 180x150, 160x600, 120x600) for selectors of images that are children of anchors ("a img"), iframes, and objects.

      But this still doesn't get all the ads. Many sites leave off the dimensions of the img tags, so I have src and href selectors of "/ads/", "/ad/", "doubleclick.net/". There aren't many that remain after those, so I haven't bothered coming up with more host-matching rules.

      I also suppress all iframes with a src attribute. If someone can't put the content on the same page, I'm not really interested in reading it.

      I have some wishes for future versions. I wish "script { display: none ! important }" would suppress script-generated content, but it doesn't. I wish I could select on the absence of attributes from tags. I wish I could use the proprietary -moz-outline style to draw the internal borders of cells for examination of table structures.

      I also override fixed-width tables:
      table[width] { width: auto; }
      td[width] { width: auto; }
      th[width] { width: auto; }
      col[width] { width: auto; }
      And block web tracker and images used to wedge cells open:
      img[width="1"] { display: none ! important }
      img[height="1"] { display: none ! important }
      A lot of my stylesheet (which I can't reproduce in its entirety because it has too few characters per line for acceptance here) evolved from visiting sites linked to by slashdot.

      I wish Mozilla had better client-side stylesheet support. I should be able to select one or more of several stylesheets to apply to any given page, including or excluding the sheets provided by the page itself. Or even sheets to apply by domain automatically. I have a rule that overrides the nowrap attribute on table cells that I only want to use on my intranet.

      A killer feature for Mozilla would be a way to easily modify the web page by right-clicking on an image and tell it to suppress it. Or, even better, entire rows or columns, allowing creatin of my own printer-ready pages!
    15. Re:Valid CSS? by KnightStalker · · Score: 1
      I wish I could select on the absence of attributes from tags.

      Like so:

      img:not([ALT]) { border: 5px dotted red; }

      You're welcome :-)

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    16. Re:Valid CSS? by Teknogeek · · Score: 1

      Cardcaptor Sakura?

      Odd. I don't remember any Clow cards that were designed to work against banner ads.

      Though I suppose the Shadow card could hide them...

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  2. And in other news.. by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Funny

    SBC patents patents.

    Other well noted SBC patents include:

    Oxegenating blood by inhalation of atmosphere. Secreting water onto the surface of the skin when hot/tired to assist in heat loss.
    Excretion of urea in solution via a hose type device.

    They'd better clear that last one up quick. I'm dying for a piss but I don't have any change for the SBC lawyer.

    1. Re:And in other news.. by Autonymous+Toaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nothing important then. As long as they don't have a patent on "method of modifying carbohydrate chains by application of dry heat", I think we're gonna be OK.

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    2. Re:And in other news.. by Fruny · · Score: 1

      I believe I have a quick solution to the last problem. If you call now with your credit card, you get free painkillers.

    3. Re:And in other news.. by LongJohnStewartMill · · Score: 1

      Patent for Excretion of urea in solution via a hose type device.

      That sounds like the ultimate bathroom key, only instead of a hunk of metal, there are a few lawyers attached to it. =)

    4. Re:And in other news.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Excretion of urea in solution via a hose type device.

      so females aren't covered?

    5. Re:And in other news.. by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2, Funny
      That sounds like the ultimate bathroom key, only instead of a hunk of metal, there are a few lawyers attached to it.

      Ah...and the results when the IP lawyers delay things too long...

      "Oops. Sorry about that. Guess I don't need to get into the bathroom any more. Here's a quarter for the laundry."

      Though afterwards, think what the "what are you in for" conversation the poor guy will have with his cellmate will sound like...

    6. Re:And in other news.. by jo_ham · · Score: 2, Insightful

      so females aren't covered?

      There's no way even SBC would have the balls to attempt to patent the female genitals and associated plumbing. It's far too beautiful.

    7. Re:And in other news.. by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 1

      Females also have a urethra, which could be considered a "hose-type device."

      -If

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    8. Re:And in other news.. by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh...

      So izzat why they call 'em IP lawyers?

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    9. Re:And in other news.. by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      There's no way even SBC would have the balls to attempt to patent the female genitals and associated plumbing. It's far too beautiful.

      That is a matter of opinion subject to debate. One man's beauty is another man's... well you get my point.

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  3. Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 4, Informative
    Mozilla flexibility and openness

    Well, personally I use IE, and thanks to a well-maintained boffo hosts file I've yet to see an ad in just about any commercial website, including those that use iframes (no page, no ad). That includes Slashdot.

    The popunders or popups I don't really care about so long as I know no revenue is going to anyone for the page hit (since the browser window comes up with a 404 anyway).

    99% effective, in my experience. No openness needed, just a little bit of common sense and some network know-how. Not that openness is not good and all.

    1. Re:Ah, yes by mrjive · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seems like it would be a lot easier just to use a popup stopper instead. This is what I did with IE until I installed mozilla.

      Panicware has a good one that's freely downloadable. I still have it installed at home but just leave it disabled now (since Mozilla catches them all).

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    2. Re:Ah, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A serious question ... do you feel the internet should be a free experience? Do you experience any feelings at all concerning the revenue impacting mode in which you operate?

    3. Re:Ah, yes by sqlrob · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you go to the bathroom during commercials? Do you experience any feelings at all concerning the revenue impacting mode in which you operate?

    4. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1

      I tried the Proxomitron for a while, but I ended up not minding the popups since, again, nobody's making any money on them. Everything else is covered by the hosts file.

    5. Re:Ah, yes by teetam · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I use IE and Mozilla and honestly, Mozilla kicks butt. Even with a 404, your desktop will still be cluttered with too many windows (pop ups, unders etc.)

      With Mozilla, not only do I get no popups, but I also have only one window open when I navigate multiple websites using tabbed browsing.

      Try it out.

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    6. Re:Ah, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welll... Let's see this "Boffo" hosts file.

    7. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Try it out

      I do. I think it's a great browser, and it's better at rendering CSS than IE is in some cases (scrolling overflow anyone?)

      But it's waaaaaay too slow to load. IE6 loads in about 1/4th of a second, where Mozilla 1.2 takes about 6-7 seconds. That's really my only beef with it - other than that I like it a lot.

    8. Re:Ah, yes by John+Harrison · · Score: 1
      You are a wanker for looking at censored websites. Why would you want to look at a website that has been sanitized?

      In your own words:

      IMO it's stupid to want to watch a movie that has been "sanitized".

      You might say this is apples and oranges, but I say you are a bit of a hypocrite.

      :P

      p.s. I approve of you viewing the web as you choose. However, you are stealing and the people that you call "wankers" are not.

    9. Re:Ah, yes by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Seems like it would be a lot easier just to use a popup stopper instead. This is what I did with IE until I installed mozilla."

      One neat thing you can do with IE is call it as an ActiveX control in Visual Basic. I'm by no means a programmer, but I was able to download the HTML into a text buffer, edit the buffer, and then display it in the IE/ActiveX Window. The idea was (eventually) to write a parser that had a few rules about omitting certain lines of HTML. Something along the lines of "remove any line that refers to opening windows on page load or on aexit."

      So why didn't I complete it? I didn't know how! Heh. Seriously, I'm not much of a programmer, and I didn't have the drive to write the parser necessary to do that. The main problem is that I would have had to have re-written a lot of IE's interface. I probably had a month or so (at my ameteurish pace) to go before I could get that in workable shape. And then what?

      I do hope somebody comes along and implements a feature simmilar to what I described in a browser. (Preferably Opera.) I'd rather filter out HTML than wait for new features to pop up every time somebody discovers a new way to be annoying.

    10. Re:Ah, yes by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why would you want to look at a website that has been sanitized?

      Kudos for making your point (nice and sharp... I approve), but ads do not count as part of the artistic merit of a movie/website/landscape. Usually the director/author/wildlife don't even know what ads will end up appearing in their creation, so unless the intent of a work involves making fun of ads, the ads just detract from it. Skipping commercials does not mean "sanitizing".

    11. Re:Ah, yes by Coke+in+a+Can · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, AFAIK, IE also takes a few seconds to load. It just happens to be loaded with the OS. Mozilla has a doohickey for loading it into RAM too (it's not on by default tho), if you really care about startup time.

    12. Re:Ah, yes by morningstar8 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hmph. If IE didn't autoload with Windows, I bet it'd load a lot slower.

      Personally, I've set up Mozilla on my Windows box to enable Quick Launch. That way, part of Mozilla starts up with Windows, so launches are faster. On my box, Mozilla loads in about half a second.

      Under Windows, in Mozilla's preferences dialog, go to the top-level of Advanced, then choose "Quick Launch".

    13. Re:Ah, yes by GimmeFuel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most pop-up and ad blockers use a method similiar to this, except they use a proxy server. When the webserver sends whatever page I requested to me, the proxy parses the HTML and kills any IMG tags for ads, etc., then passes the HTML back to the browser. BTW, the best such program I've found is Privoxy

    14. Re:Ah, yes by afidel · · Score: 3, Informative

      The best popup killer for IE is crazy browser at Here. It does smart popup filtering, tabbed browsing and some other nifty features, all with the IE engine. Small download too since it just wraps around the IE core. Best demonstration of object reuse I've seen =)

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    15. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 2, Funny
      You are a wanker [slashdot.org] for looking at censored websites. Why would you want to look at a website that has been sanitized?

      d00d, if ads make up content for you, may I suggest something different?

      :P

      Ah, I get it. No, I do =)

      However, you are stealing

      Are you a subscriber?.

    16. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      It just happens to be loaded with the OS

      Proof?

    17. Re:Ah, yes by aaza · · Score: 3, Funny
      It just happens to be loaded with the OS

      Proof?

      1. Load IE (a fraction of a second)
      2. Load local page (a few more seconds)
      3. Open a new window, which loads the same page (5 - 10 seconds, disk grinding like anything)
      4. ???
      5. profit

      OK, how the hell did steps 4 and 5 get in there? This is a serious post!

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    18. Re:Ah, yes by AvitarX · · Score: 0

      Why on Earth would you give up the screen real estate and yet not allow the sight you like to make any money.

      You should support the sights you like. I can understand blovking pop-ups, but slashdot has a legit and reasonable way to pay for their sight, why block their adds?

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    19. Re:Ah, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill Gates testimony under oath.

    20. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      Open a new window, which loads the same page (5 - 10 seconds, disk grinding like anything)

      Sorry, I'm just a lowly Windows user. Bear with me here. When you say "local page" do you mean a page served off of IIS in your local machine? Or what?

    21. Re:Ah, yes by Coke+in+a+Can · · Score: 1

      Well, explorer shell = IE. It's handled a bit differently, but the engine is still loaded. It just has to load a few menus and other gooey stuff.

      At least that's how it was when I was using 98 SE, although it looks to be the same with XP. Damnit I wanna get my linux box up and running.

      (gooey = GUI, for those who can't read between the lines)

    22. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Well, explorer shell = IE. It's handled a bit differently, but the engine is still loaded.

      I don't think so. The shell and IE use some shared components that are loaded with the shell itself (the Windows common controls). Unless you have Active Desktop enabled (and I don't), the HTML parsing engine is not yet loaded when the shell itself initializes. And I know that because I've profiled it.

      IE is basically three things: the common controls, the HTML parsing engine and a few shell extensions (which you can turn off). The EXE is just a stub.

      Now, some people consider the whole common controls thing to one of the Evil Monopolistic Practices, when it really is an excellent alternative to having 18 different "widget" sets to choose from and having two thirds of them double over and die because glibc happens to be an older (or newer) version.

      In fact, if you've ever run an alternative shell you'll see why this "loads with the OS" is just FUD, because IE runs at the same speed. And no other process in the entire system uses the HTML parser.

      I understand "loads with the OS" to be something like a WDM driver, a kernel-space service or something like that. But that's just me.

    23. Re:Ah, yes by Gantoris · · Score: 3, Informative

      This works in WinXP should work with 2k as well.

      1. Open the task manager, and view the running proceses.
      2. Start IE, notice that there is now an IEXPLORE.exe item in the task list, close IE.
      3. Start windows explorer, notice that there is no new process in the task manager.
      4. Feed a web address into the "location bar" in windows explorer, suddenly you're using IE. But there is no IEXPLORE.exe in the task manager. This is because the whole thing is wrapped up in explorer.exe, which is the desktop shell process, which is loaded with the OS.

    24. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Who the heck said I like Slashdot??

    25. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 2
      Quick Launch

      Quick, yes. And only 24MB of memory consumed!

    26. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      This works in WinXP should work with 2k as well.

      Nope. In Windows 2000 I see multiple separate instances of IEXPLORE.EXE. Each one goes away when I close their respective windows. As expected.

      Perhaps that has something to do with Active Desktop, a "feature" that I don't like and always turn off.

      In any case, load times are the same.

      This is because the whole thing is wrapped up in explorer.exe, which is the desktop shell process, which is loaded with the OS.

      Use another shell, and try your experiment. Then tell me IE loads any slower (or Mozilla is faster). Unless "wrapped up" means something I'm misunderstanding, here.

    27. Re:Ah, yes by NudeZiggy · · Score: 1, Informative

      and by sight, you mean vision? right?

    28. Re:Ah, yes by Blkdeath · · Score: 1
      Use another shell, and try your experiment. Then tell me IE loads any slower (or Mozilla is faster). Unless "wrapped up" means something I'm misunderstanding, here.

      You're far too stuck on the explorer.exe shell. Windows is more than just an executable. Tell me honestly that you can remove all .DLL files related to Internet Explorer and still have a functional operating system.

      BTW - Do try Windows XP before you make authoritative comments regarding things like Active Desktop, Internet Explorer, and integration.

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    29. Re:Ah, yes by ctar · · Score: 1

      Can I ask how you manage to create and manage an updated list of all the hosts that are used strictly for adverts? I tried to do this once, and quickly realized how unwieldy a process it is...

    30. Re:Ah, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea and how much does IE use? What? You don't know, I wonder why.

    31. Re:Ah, yes by uspsguy · · Score: 1

      So you use $5.00 worth of RAM to make your box a lot faster every time you open your browser. As much as we bemoan program bloat, that's the way it is today. My Windows box has 640 meg and uses up 61% by the time it finishes startup. I agree that 400 meg for the O S and background jobs is rediculous but I'm enough of a realist to know I'm not likely to change the trend anytime soon so the first bucks I spent were for enough RAM to give everything room to run. Memory is the cheapest performance upgrade you can do.

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    32. Re:Ah, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yes, and I bet you love every single one of the security holes built into IE?

      Unpatched IE security holes

    33. Re:Ah, yes by nahdude812 · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's a neat but very dangerous way to manage that. The danger is that you have to be very careful what zone of security you're executing in, it's very easy to run that in the "Local Computer" zone, which opens you up to countless highly dangerous attacks. So if you play with IE as an ActiveX, and spoon feed it HTML at all, be very very careful!

    34. Re:Ah, yes by Coke+in+a+Can · · Score: 1

      I suppose I stand corrected, although after my long experience with 98, I was pretty sure of it.

    35. Re:Ah, yes by IPFreely · · Score: 1
      Do you go to the bathroom during commercials?

      I've occasionally gone to the bathroom during popup adds.

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    36. Re:Ah, yes by Mr.+Shiny+And+New · · Score: 1

      >And no other process in the entire system uses the HTML parser.

      Actually, lots of windows tools use the Html parser. I'm pretty sure that Explorer (the local file browsing thingy) uses it for the "web content" in folders. Also, The search for files tool uses html. There is html help in Windows. And lots of programs embed IE for one reason or another.

    37. Re:Ah, yes by John+Harrison · · Score: 1
      Glad you got the joke.

      While we're on the subject, there is some actual overlap here between website ads and movies. Paid product placements are becoming more and more common. Spiderman went so far as to digitally replace the actual billboards in Times Square with brands associated with the company releasing the movie. Of course, maybe Spiderman is the AOL of movies...

    38. Re:Ah, yes by zootread · · Score: 1

      Well, the idea behind this is that the banner ad does not show up at all. Meaning the space that the banner would normally take up is not even used, giving you more space and more of the actual content of the page. Where as just using a hosts file with IE, with the blocks sites set to 127.0.0.1 (I'm assuming you're not using any additional software here), you see the not found error in the place where the ad would be, using up space on your screen. As for pop-ups, if you're using Mozilla, they never even pop up. It's not a matter of giving revenue (if they make money, that's fine with me, as long as it doesn't annoy me), its a matter of improving the browsing experience so you don't have to waste time closing windows or scrolling past ad banners.

      I tried this Mozilla CSS hack, but only on a few pages.. It works, but not flawlessly. Most pages loaded up nicely, without any banner ads and freeing up space where the ad would normally be. There are false-positives though, where images that were somewhat important to the page were blocked.

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    39. Re:Ah, yes by slick_rick · · Score: 2, Insightful
      A serious question ... do you feel the internet should be a free experience?


      The internet experience is not free. I pay $50 a month for my DSL service. Even if you don't count my quasi-fixed investment in the computer itself and the network that it operates on the internet is in no way "free".

      Do you experience any feelings at all concerning the revenue impacting mode in which you operate?


      There were web sites before there was an ad supported revenue model, and there will still be web sites after all the ad supported sites are dead and gone (RIP).
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    40. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      You're far too stuck on the explorer.exe shell. Windows is more than just an executable.

      And I think you don't know what you're talking about. Of course Windows is "more than just an executable", but the level of IE integration within the OS begins and ends with the shell. If you don't load the shell, IE is nowhere to be found. If you don't believe me, try it. Get a professional profiler and a tool (www.sysinternals.com) that can look at the working set of a process, including mapped libraries. Then boot Windows with an alternative shell, like Blackbox or Geoshell.

      Tell me honestly that you can remove all .DLL files related to Internet Explorer and still have a functional operating system.

      I suppose you're basing this statement on the court case? Because it has no technical merit whatsoever. Microsoft does not consider the OS to be separate from the shell (which is unfortunate, but still) and that's what eventually did them in. But that doesn't mean that you can't get rid of the shell. These DLLs you mention, do you know which ones merely ship with IE and which are actually an integral part of the browser?

      Do try Windows XP before you make authoritative comments regarding things like Active Desktop, Internet Explorer, and integration.

      I don't use XP because I don't like it, but if *you* are going to make authoritative statements regarding XP and IE, do try this little experiment I mentioned.

    41. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      Actually, lots of windows tools use the Html parser

      Yes, they do. I'm not saying the parser is used exclusively by the browser.

      I'm pretty sure that Explorer (the local file browsing thingy) uses it for the "web content" in folders

      Again, a "feature" that, IMO, is stupid and can be turned off. Indeed, if you turn it off you'll see that the window hierarchy in an Explorer window changes. The IE "shell view" window disappears completely and mshtml.dll is unmapped from the explorer process.

      And lots of programs embed IE for one reason or another.

      The point is, IE is loaded with the shell, not with the operating system itself. You can use an alternative shell, and watch in wonder as IE performs at exactly the same speed. So its responsiveness is not tied to being loaded through some evil, hidden OS hook. It's just fast.

    42. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      I was being a bit facetious there. My primary home desktop box has 1GB of RAM, so I'm not really worried about using 24MB to allow Mozilla to run faster.

      The problem is that Mozilla needs to be cross-platform so it has to create *everything* from scratch. Every control is owner-drawn and created from thin air. The whole socket implementation is less than ideal (for Windows at least). I understand why it is designed this way, and I think it's impressive that the Mozilla team managed to pull it off. But I also think it's a shame, because it is a very good browser. But the load times are unacceptable, at least for 90% of people out there (and not many can spare 24MB of RAM).

      In fact, for a while there when the first few betas were being released I thought about creating a version that used the native Windows controls and a better socket implementation and simply "plugged in" the Gecko engine. Now *that* would be a rockin' browser. I wish I had time for something like that. It would definitely give IE a run for its money.

    43. Re:Ah, yes by ianezz · · Score: 1
      Quick, yes. And only 24MB of memory consumed!

      Of what use is memory if it stays unused?

      If you are going to need that 24MB for other apps, they are paged out on the swap file anyways, (it can also happen incrementally, while the system is idle), and can be paged in when needed (which is faster than allocating and constructing ex novo everything).

    44. Re:Ah, yes by John+Harrison · · Score: 1

      So what does paid product placement in movies count as? Why does Clark Kent's mom feed him Cheerios?

    45. Re:Ah, yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      Can I ask how you manage to create and manage an updated list of all the hosts that are used strictly for adverts

      I let other people do it for me =)

      It's not 100% accurate, and some ads do get through. But it's good enough. Doubleclick can only throw so many servers out there.

      And the number of false positives I've come across is exactly 1 (some canadian domain), after more than two years of doing this.

    46. Re:Ah, yes by pla · · Score: 1

      So what does paid product placement in movies count as?

      Tougher question, but I would say "unspecified variables".

      In some cases, the script may have called for Cheerios. It much more likely said "cereal", and the producer replaced that ambiguity with the brand of cereal by the highest bidder.

      As for how that affects the artistic merit of a work, I would say it doesn't - If the author didn't specify the brand, the director needs to pick *something*, and I personally find Cheerios less intrusive than an obviously nonexistant brand.

      If the author *did* specify a brand, or only a related food (perhaps the script said "sausage & eggs", but Jimmy Dean's didn't want to pay for a placement), and the director/producer went against that, then I find it offensive. But, I have no control over that, and we don't really have the technology to "santize" something like that without making it glaringly obvious.

    47. Re:Ah, yes by Xiadix · · Score: 1

      Smartin-Designs has a HUGE host file that is updated regulary and seems to work well.

      http://www.smartin-designs.com/

      KevG

    48. Re:Ah, yes by John+Harrison · · Score: 1
      we don't really have the technology to "santize" something like that without making it glaringly obvious.

      How long will that last? In another post I mentioned that in Spiderman all the billbaords in one scene were changed from what really appears there to compnaies that paid for placement. There was even a lawsuit over it.

      As fot the Cheerios, that was a paid placement. Superman II is worse. The producers were paid $43k to place Marlboro's logo prominently in the movie and to not portray the brand in a negative light. To me this is worse than a banner ad, but maybe not as bad as a pop-up/under.

  4. Popup code hidden at slashdot pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    1. Re:Popup code hidden at slashdot pages by pigfukr · · Score: 1

      You sir, are a cruel bastard. hahahah

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  5. BBC Support by jdh28 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out the detail the BBC provide about their servers and network.

    john

    1. Re:BBC Support by krisguy · · Score: 1

      At least they like Linux. Internet Support picture has a giant Tux hanging on the wall.

      Just because they dropped OGG doesn't mean that they don't value Open Source.

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  6. Slammer 1.1 by Lu+Xun · · Score: 5, Funny

    There were also two bugs in the random number generator

    Does that mean someone's going to release a patch for it then?

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    1. Re:Slammer 1.1 by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah don't people know enough not to get infected by version 1.0 software?

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    2. Re:Slammer 1.1 by ktakki · · Score: 1
      Does that mean someone's going to release a patch for it then?


      When the Morris Worm hit back in 1988, it had a few bugs that prevented it from becoming even more virulent. Keith Bostic at Berkeley suggested posting a patch.

      k.
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  7. Re:Newsflash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You got that right

  8. Finally? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you have your video camera trained on Columbia? Finally, Child of Apollo writes ...

    What's with this "finally" stuff? Have people been holding their breath to hear what Child of Apollo has to say or something?

    GMD

    1. Re:Finally? by Zillatron · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What's with this "finally" stuff? Have people been holding their breath to hear what Child of Apollo has to say or something?

      Um... Since the item after it is listed as late-breaking, I'm guessing that at one point the item in question was the final item...

    2. Re:Finally? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You're an idiot. "Finally" is commonly used to signify the last in a series of statements. You know, kind of like "first," "second," "next," and "then." However, because of the update by Timothy, the "Finally, Child of Apollo..." blurb isn't the last on the page. Still, you should be intelligent enough to figure out what "finally" meant.

  9. So you want a "structured document browser"? by Pac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I will give you a "structured document browser". Its name was Gopher and it was the structured document browser" before fancy graphics and godammed blinking text took the servers by storm. Will you have a coke with that prior art, sir?

  10. What is /. thinking? by Eros · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did they just seriously link to a page that easily allows the blocking of all banners on Slashdot and other sites?

    If you can't call this website sucide, I don't know what you can call it.

    BTW, for Galeon users, check your preferences under "Rendering" to add a CSS and check the box "Apply by Default" to use the adblocking CSS.

    1. Re:What is /. thinking? by sgtsanity · · Score: 1

      No, they're trying to get the page slashdotted (and taken out of commission) for the good of the entire ad industry.

    2. Re:What is /. thinking? by Jezral · · Score: 1

      The banner is only hidden from view.
      Nobody tells the browser not to download it, counting a hit, etc.

      So it's a "nice-guy" banner stopper. Counts the hit although nobody views the thing. Devious, isn't it?

      -- Tino Didriksen / ProjectJJ.dk

    3. Re:What is /. thinking? by Yosi · · Score: 1

      >Nobody tells the browser not to download it, counting a hit, etc.

      Actually, AFAIK, Mozilla is smart enough NOT to download an image that has the style display:none

      And we are talking about Mozilla here.

    4. Re:What is /. thinking? by sean23007 · · Score: 1

      I don't think any ad agencies count every download as a "hit" anymore. Isn't it only a hit if someone clicks on it, and isn't that impossible if it is invisible?

      --

      Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
    5. Re:What is /. thinking? by KalvinB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since many sites are too dense to use ads in a non visitor annoying fashion and many visitors are too stupid/ignorant to accept the fact that it costs money to run a quality web-site and passivly help offset the costs by putting up with the ads on their favorite sites, many major web-sites are forcing visitors to take an active role in paying for costs or forcing them away. The method of choice seems to be subscriptions of some form or another with a crippled free service.

      Pick your poison: suck up the ads or start getting used to paying up.

      I switched IcarusIndie.com over to a subscription model at the beginning of the year for the most bandwidth intensive sections and it was probably the best thing I could have done for the site. My Alexa ranking is up, bandwidth costs are being offset significantly, bandwidth usage has been drastically reduced.

      If a significant number of users stop viewing the ads on Slashdot I wouldn't be surprised if you had to start paying the membership fee to see everything.

      Ben

  11. SBC and Money by Valiss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The SBC Intellectual Property folks are back in the news, this time for donating a $7.3 million virus screening patent to the University of Texas. While patent donations are one of the latest twists on corporate philanthropy, the practice has aroused the curiosity of the IRS as a possible tax avoidance scheme."

    SBC should seriously consider burning in hell. I mean how low can they go? Is M$ thier model company? First off, thier whole Frames(tm)(r)(c) is complete bull, and we all know it. I doubt that will win, and they must know this, so why do it? What do they have to gain?

    Now seeminly random donations to the of Texas (nothing against U of T). Perhaps they should just focus on having the DSL lines up 24/7 and not persuing meaningless lawsuits and then attempting to cover them up with some bs donation. Someone want to explain to me what "patent donations" are? If it's what I think then I'm calling shenanagens on them.

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    1. Re:SBC and Money by g4dget · · Score: 1
      Is M$ thier model company?

      Microsoft engages in all sorts of sleazy business tactics, and they produce poor quality software to boot, but they generally doesn't use patent lawsuits to get their way. In fact, there would be little legally wrong with Microsoft's business tactics if Microsoft didn't have the majority market share in several market segments.

  12. It may be. by Carme · · Score: 5, Informative

    It actually looks like valid CSS v.3 to me, but that would mean that yeah, it wouldn't validate yet.

    I'm not expert on the v.3 spec, so don't quote me, but I believe Mozilla has partial support already. That would explain why it works in Moz and not IE/others. Bloody brilliant idea, though.

    1. Re:It may be. by Carme · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's not even CSS3, it looks like CSS2.

      The W3 spec has details on the new selectors CSS2 allows.

    2. Re:It may be. by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative
      Ahh, yeah, you're right. See CSS3 spec, "Selectors" recommendation, section 2. Nifty stuff coming. For some reason this CSS makes me excited every time I learn new things about it, and I'm not that hardcore of a geek...

      And we can play with this stuff in Mozilla. Oh happy day. :)

    3. Re:It may be. by CrocOS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The reason that this works in Mozilla is the filename and location: that's the proprietary part. There is no reason that you cannot include similar code to this on your page for, eg, hiding that pesky Geocities banner. True, not all browsers support this, but it should work for all Moz-based browsers and (I think) IE 5.5+ - though I havn't tried it with IE =) -Trav

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    4. Re:It may be. by interiot · · Score: 1

      Yeah, part of it is there, the CSS2 validator didn't completely freak out. The *= (and $= and ^= and so on) syntax is new in CSS3 though, I think.

    5. Re:It may be. by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My question is, why not use XPath instead of coming up with a chinsy alternate-but-similar notation for selecting nodes in HTML? XPath is a w3 property... why not be consistent? They are trying to retrofit HTML to XML anyway, and IE lets you select nodes in scripts using XPath. (I thought it was part of the DOM standard, but I can't find it - I guess it's an MS extension.)

      I guess it would cause some of the CSS syntax to be incompatible with new versions. But that should be solvable by having a well defined way of specifying which version of CSS a CSS file or section is, like you can with javascript. You can specify language="JavaScript1.0" or "Javascript1.2" or whatever to load a JS engine that conforms to that version's specifications (which, unfortunately, conflict in some cases).

      I often think that these web standards have all evolved in the wrong order. HTML came before XML and DOM. CSS came before XSL. Bleah.

      -If

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    6. Re:It may be. by interiot · · Score: 1

      Well, it was SGML => HTML => XML which is a wee bit odd.

    7. Re:It may be. by Xiadix · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try adding this to your host file:

      127.0.0.1 us.adserver.yahoo.com

      It shows, but it is empty.

      KevG

    8. Re:It may be. by bheerssen · · Score: 1

      Actually,

      SGML => HTML
      SGML => XML

      XML is in no way derived from HTML. It just came a little later.

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    9. Re:It may be. by 9jack9 · · Score: 2, Funny
      . . . CSS makes me excited every time I learn new things about it, and I'm not that hardcore of a geek...

      And we can play with this stuff in Mozilla. Oh happy day. :)

      Uhhh, if CSS makes you excited then, yeah, you're a geek. If it makes you excited over and over, then that makes you a hardcore geek. If you are unsure, use the "random unknown female test". Walk up to some random unknown female and say, "CSS makes me excited every time I learn new things about it. Does that make me a geek?". If she says, "Oh, I saw CSS on TV last night! That's so cool!", then you aren't a geek. Otherwise you are. Welcome to the brotherhood. ;)

    10. Re:It may be. by CrocOS · · Score: 1

      Yep, I've got that one - and a few others too =) Because I surf and /. etc from work, I am obliged to use Internet Explorer, and a well maintained host file is the easiest way to sort this with IE. Take a look at tuxracers reply to my comment for more info on how 'zilla handles display: none http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=52559&cid=5222 775 -Trav

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    11. Re:It may be. by Sir+Tristam · · Score: 1
      Uhhh, if CSS makes you excited then, yeah, you're a geek. If it makes you excited over and over, then that makes you a hardcore geek. If you are unsure, use the "random unknown female test". Walk up to some random unknown female and say, "CSS makes me excited every time I learn new things about it. Does that make me a geek?". If she says, "Oh, I saw CSS on TV last night! That's so cool!", then you aren't a geek.
      No, that just makes her not a geek. You'd still be one. Even though you're talking to a female.

      Chris

    12. Re:It may be. by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean to imply that XML was derived from HTML. I was just saying that you should come up with your syntax standard (XML) before applying it (HTML). Because this happened in the reverse order, we have to retrofit HTML to XML (XHTML), and content developers don't want to deal with it.

      Similarly, CSS1 had a confusing and inexpressive way of setting properties of nodes via rules. XSL/XSLT required a much more powerful way of querying an XML document, and they used XPath, which does the job rather well. But now CSS is stuck with this awkward node selection syntax. So, to retrofit CSS, they add some XPath-like selectors and whatnot, but that's arguably more confusing to someone who has to deal with both. The fact that CSS can't be specified in an XML format kind of bites, too.

      When does Internet 2 come out? We need to start over, knowing what we know now.

      -If

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  13. That Slammer analysis paper is quite interesting. by Thagg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Read the paper, it's good, short, well written, and has some important insights. The most amazing statistic from the paper is that the doubling time for the virus was about 8 seconds. Within ten minutes it had covered the entire 'net.

    I'm still waiting for the paper describing why systems like Bank of America's ATM's were shut down. Whatever the case, we are sure to see more worms like this in the future, with the possibility of serious damage.

    thad

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  14. No, the internet should not be free. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    You should have to pay for the bandwidth I use looking at your site. You should pay for your hosting, out of your own pocket. If you want me to read your self-promoting crap, don't force adverts upon me.

    There's enough poorly-written shite out there without having to put annoying flashy adverts on it too.

  15. Re:What is /. using? by The+Notorious+ASP · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, I'd be really interested in seeing some stats on browsers that hit slashdot. Granted a large percentage of regular posters are running mozilla, opera, netscape, whatever, I bet there is a very high percentage of MSIE users hitting slashdot.

    Anybody got any numbers?

  16. Ads with noise by EverStoned · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't stand ads with noise. I listen to music really loudly on headphones. Then all of a sudden I hear "BUY A TOYATA" and blow an eardrum. Thank god I switched to Opera - no more pop ups, but some banner flash ads still get to me.

    1. Re:Ads with noise by Marticus · · Score: 1

      F12 -> Deselect "Enable plug-ins"

    2. Re:Ads with noise by aldheorte · · Score: 1

      EverStoned and any others who like to listen to loud headphones, please read this immediately. If you are turning up the volume to drown out ambient noise, consider getting an set of earbuds like the Etymotic ER-4P.

    3. Re:Ads with noise by aldheorte · · Score: 1

      EverStoned and any others who like to listen to loud headphones, please read this immediately. Quote:

      Hearing damage from headphones is probably more common than from loudspeakers, because many people exploit the acoustic isolation by listening at higher volumes. Moreover, the risk of hearing damage from headphones is higher than with loudspeakers, even at comparable volumes, due to the close coupling of the transducers to the ears. One of the benefits of headphone listening is the ability to detect musical details. Any hearing damage would have substantial impact on that experience. This article takes a look at the process of human hearing and offers guidelines for safe listening. (The information given here does not substitute for medical expertise. Readers should consult a physician for a diagnosis of hearing damage.)

      If you are turning up the volume to drown out ambient noise, consider getting an set of earbuds like the Etymotic ER-4P.

  17. Re:What is /. using? by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 5, Informative

    last time Slashdot mentioned any browser stats, IE's dominance was very similar to it's position for websites generally - ie, IE was over 90%.

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  18. Here's the late-breaker by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Funny
    "looks like SDF will return soon.

    Any sign of the Zentraedi following them?

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  19. Ad-Blocker plugin by alanjstr · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you don't feel like maintaining a userContent.css file, check out Adblock over on mozdev. Bannerblind also kicked ass, but it seems abandoned.

  20. 'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by KernelSanders · · Score: 3, Informative



    In case you haven't seen it, here's a story running on the San Francisco Chronicle site about an amateur astronomer who photographed the shuttle during re-entry.

    From the story:

    'Photos show odd images near shuttle'

    "The pictures, taken with a Nikon-880 digital camera on a tripod, reveal what appear to be bright electrical phenomena flashing around the track of the shuttle's passage, but the photographer, who asked not to be identified, will not make them public immediately.

    "They clearly record an electrical discharge like a lightning bolt flashing past, and I was snapping the pictures almost exactly . . . when the Columbia may have begun breaking up during re-entry," he said..."

    1. Re:'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by SoCalChris · · Score: 1

      "I was taking pictures at the exact time it started to break up, but I won't release them to the public..."

      Sounds like a publicity stunt by someone seeking 15 minutes of fame. Hopefully it isn't that, and the guy has morals and won't release the images to the media, but will release them to NASA.

    2. Re:'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by uhoreg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "...taken with a Nikon-880 digital camera..."

      "...but it showed up clear and bright on the film when I developed it..."

      Huh?

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    3. Re:'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Photographer was using a digital camera buthe is quoted as saying:
      "I couldn't see the discharge with own eyes, but it showed up clear and bright on the film when I developed it,"

      How exactly do you develop film from a digital camera?

    4. Re:'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Throw the camera into the developer solution for three minutes, transfer to the stopbath, and then after a while, move it to the fixer. By golly, I bet a digital camera would show some weird images after that!

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    5. Re:'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by anubi · · Score: 1
      Yeh, maybe he got a bit excited when he was typing his post and minced a few words. I do it a lot.

      Maybe what this is all about is that a digital camera does not have the same spectral sensitivity as a human eye. Note you can take pictures of infrared handheld remotes with a digital camera, as the IR emitters are within the spectral window of the silicon imager, however our human retinas do not register a thing.

      There is a very good chance the camera recorded phenomena in the infrared range that our human eyes cannot see.

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    6. Re:'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by uhoreg · · Score: 1
      Yeh, maybe he got a bit excited when he was typing his post and minced a few words. I do it a lot.

      Nah. The part I quoted was from the SF Chronicle article, not from the post.

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    7. Re:'Photos Show Odd Images Near Shuttle' by ctar · · Score: 2, Funny

      "...taken with a Nikon-880 digital camera..."

      "...but it showed up clear and bright on the film when I developed it..."

      Huh?


      Maybe thats why he has orange and electrical looking streaks on the images.

  21. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by GregGardner · · Score: 1

    I agree that I would like to know how/why it shut down Bank of America's ATMs. I really _hope_ that it doesn't mean that the ATMs are connected to the public Internet. My guess is that they are on some private frame relay network (which shares bandwidth with Internet frame relay connections) and that the frame relay network was hosed for a while while Slammer propogated.

    As a Bank of America customer, I would sure like to read an offical response by the company.

  22. Nasty worm! by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative
    That Slammer/Sapphire was a really nasty worm! It fired a 404 byte UDP packet to infect a target, and it didn't even have to wait for a response, bang, on to the next attempt. (I'm not certain, but that could also mean that the packets with forged IP addresses, making tracking a lot harder.)

    404 fscking bytes! No wonder it clogged the Internet!

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    1. Re:Nasty worm! by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "404 fscking bytes! No wonder it clogged the Internet!"

      I'm new to Linux, but how does checking the file system clog the internet?

    2. Re:Nasty worm! by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's not checking the file system. (And it's a MS SQL Server bug, not Linux.) Each infected machine is suddenly using its maximum bandwidth to send 404 byte packets to randomish targets -- and each unpatched SQL Server machine that it hits instantly is also infected and uses it's max bandwidth. And at 404 bytes, it can hit a lot of targets in a short period of time.

      If you have a company with a number of machines infected, they're going sending over a 100BaseT LAN to the company pipe to the Internet, which will clog it pretty bad.

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    3. Re:Nasty worm! by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "It's not checking the file system...."

      Hrmm. I guess my joke wasn't delivered to well.

      The guy said "404 fscking bytes!" I was making fun of his self-censorship there.

      Oh well. Hawkeye Pierce I am not.

    4. Re:Nasty worm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he's referring to your "fscking bytes" comment...
      fsck=file system check.
      -1 humor impaired..

    5. Re:Nasty worm! by freeweed · · Score: 1

      Well, most of the packets seen were 376 bytes, but apparently there was some slight variation as far as the worm went. As far as it not waiting for a response, no, it did *not* spoof source IP addresses - it didn't need to, the entire point of using UDP is that you don't need to wait for a response.

      I'm rather amazed no one has really done something this before - what better way to flood networks than to use all available bandwidth, with seemingly legit traffic. We should be happy this ONLY infected MSSQL Server - just imagine an IIS bug like this (Code Red times what, a million??) Unfortunately, like as not we're gonna see something with a payload next time. Oh well, who needs sleep on the weekends?

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    6. Re:Nasty worm! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I'm coming down with something, and my brain hurts. (What? No I'm not running SQL Server, why? :)

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    7. Re:Nasty worm! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      If they spoofed the IP address, it would make it harder to locate infected machines. But they were probably going for KISS.

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  23. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by rgmoore · · Score: 3, Informative

    One scary though was the comment that most of the previous fast propagating worms are latency limited, since they have to wait for a response from each scan they attempt. They speed things up by spawning multiple threads, but that's inefficient. Sapphire/Slammer got around that by being small enough to fit into a single packet(!) so that it didn't have to wait for a return message, but that small size sharply limited its possible payload. I'm sort of worried about a worm using advanced techniques such as scanrand. As mentioned in a previous slashdot article, it was able to scan an entire class B network in just 4 seconds. With that kind of performance, you could have a similar speed of spread even with a large, sophisticated, and malicious worm.

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  24. Interesting tidbit from Slammer analysis... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    One implication of this advance is that smaller susceptible populations are now vulnerable to attack. Formerly, small populations (<20,000 machines or less on the Internet) were not viewed as particularly vulnerable to worms, as the probability of finding a susceptible machine in any given scan is quite low. However, a worm which can infect a population of 75,000 hosts in 10 minutes can similarly infect a population of 20,000 hosts in under an hour. Thus, exploits for less popular software present a viable breeding ground for new worms.


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  25. Slammer Traffic Analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So I'm reading the Slammer Traffic analysis linked from that link, and they talk about capturing header data at a peering exchange...

    Ok. Why didn't they block the ports instead of just scooping out the headers? I don't understand, is this not feasible? Seems a bit mean spirited to let it rampage on regardless to buff up your dissertation paper on Worms...

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    1. Re:Slammer Traffic Analysis by Fzz · · Score: 1
      The data is captured and logged on a continuous basis to allow after-the-fact analysis of events that you can't predict in advance, or just to provide a window into how the network functions under normal conditions.

      Typically the logger is a very fast PC or workstation with one of more gigabit ethernet cards. Usually those gig-E cards receive their data from a ethernet-switch port that is configured to mirror another switch port (ie send a duplicate of all the packets on one port to the monitoring port), or alternatively the monitoring machine may be connected to a passive optical tap. In either case, the monitoring machine usually cannot send packets on the port that's being monitored.

      Also, if the tap is at a very busy location, the logger might not be able to log fast enough to keep up with the link, so it may only be logging a random sample of packets.

      Thus these sort of logs are useful primarily for offline analysis.

      To actually filter the traffic would require access to the routers. But the researchers running the monitors usually are not the network operators, but more likely to be research scientists. Thus even if they saw what was going on before the network operators did, they still wouldn't be able to do anything about it directly.

      -Fzz

  26. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The fact that each infected machine suddenly switched to max bandwidth sending was bad enough. The ATMs, 911, etc probably failed due to congestion at bottlenecks.

    At least "wormy" was nice (for small values of nice) enough to launch it over a weekend. What if the next one gets launched during something like 9/11 or Desert Storm II?

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  27. More on the Shuttle by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Turns out that NASA fired people on the safety committee who made noise about safety.

    It will be interesting to see how 'independent' the investigation ends up being. If its like the 9/11 investigation we will know there is something they need to hide.

    My top pick to head the committee would be Ted Postol of MIT. I doubt he is the administrations pick. Although the Democrats in Congress might possibly get a clue and select him as one of their picks.

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    1. Re:More on the Shuttle by anubi · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I think they hit the nail on the head.

      "Faster, Better, Cheaper."

      I think the pizza driver who is coerced into unsafe practices to deliver $10 worth of pizza knows it firsthand. If he doesn't deliver, they will find someone else who says they will.

      NASA was forced to "cut corners" to save "costs". But maintain "productivity".

      We did not allocate enough resources to do it right. Now we will have to do it over.

      Its a lesson we have to learn over and over.

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  28. Not The End Of Ogg by Cnik70 · · Score: 1

    I believe that with Red Hat's recent removal of MP3 support, which will probably be followed by many other Linux distros, we will see a rise in the interest into Ogg format. There are already small footsteps to get Ogg's onto iPod's and other portable devices, streaming in a large scale is only logical for a next step. Just because the BBC ends one project doesn't mean that we should all suddenly abandon Ogg as a serious multimedia format.

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  29. SSsshh!!! Don't tell the Editors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but that Mozilla ad blocking stuff even works on /.!

  30. cool moz trick by RestiffBard · · Score: 1

    works in phoenix perfectly too.

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  31. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is exactly why we must eliminate UDP from the Internet. UDP sucks. All Internet traffic should be TCP as this worm would not have spread anywhere near as fast if it had to wait for connection buildup and tear-down, properly deal with sequence numbers, etc. UDP is a shit protocol.

  32. This trick is two and a half years old by plastik55 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The concept of CSS-based ad blocking has been previously covered here, and here. I've been using it to make my Slashdot ad-free for some time now.

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    1. Re:This trick is two and a half years old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Sir or Madam...

      Sure this an old trick, for YOU. However a Mozilla and CSS newbie like me found it very informative! If a topic like this is repeated once every 2 and a half years, then I would argue that it helps far more people (like me) than it annoys (clearly you).

    2. Re:This trick is two and a half years old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      honestly, are the ads on /. really that annoying?

    3. Re:This trick is two and a half years old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The current slashdot repeat rate is every few days, but yeah it is a cool little trick, and I find it acceptable that it was posted in a 'group' discussion and not as a single article.

    4. Re:This trick is two and a half years old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Especially the ones with women in bikinis or whatever I saw on slashdot the other day while reading it from work. Those kinds of ads are not acceptable for work, and are reason enough for me to block the ads. It is block the ads or find something else to read during lunch...

  33. NASA doesn't need more video by eclectro · · Score: 1, Insightful


    They need to cancel the shuttle program and replace it.

    Here is an article from 1980

    And here is an article from this same author this last weekend.

    We all love the space program and grew up with it. But no significant science is being gained from continuing to send man into space. Having to send man into space is a cold-war relic of the space-race. And so for the cries "we need to send man back to the moon" or "we need to send man to mars" is looking for something for man to do in space, not accomplish science. Because that science can be accomplished with unmanned probes just as well.

    I am not saying kill the space program. I am saying that a major reorganizing is appropriate. And I am not saying stop space science. I am saying that spending billions on continued shuttle flights and space station to achieve it is not justified and fiscally irresponsible. NASA would get far better science by increasing probes to the planets.

    It's so irrelevant that the general public never notices the shuttle program unless there is a disaster. That was same in 1986 and its true this past weekend.

    The statement by NASA administrator O'Keefe that "We will find out what is wrong, fix the problem, and continue flying" particularly saccharin. Is everybody's eyes so glassed over with the idea of a man in space that they are willing to go forward until this tragedy repeats itself for a third time, and another seven astronauts die?? What then? Is spider's spinning their webs and ants digging tunnels in weightlessness worth seven men dying? Doesn't the technology exist that this could be done on an ummanned rocket?

    From a scientific perspective that NASA seems to sorely lack, the Space Shuttle is something that needs to be retired now.

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    1. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      You act like the shuttle is a commuter craft that should fly 100% reliably. It is still very much experimental. It is completely rehauled from the inside out every year or so. New electronics, new control systems. The only thing going back into space over and over again is the hull.

      The latest I've read today seems to indicate that the fancy new computers could have been to blame, overcompensating when the shuttle pitched on its approach, sending it into a roll which caused it to break up. So it could be the brand new cutting edge components that caused it to break up, not the 30 year old design for the hull.

      It's still flown over 120 missions with 2 such failures. That's excellent so far considering how little we know about space flight.

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    2. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by crhernandez · · Score: 2, Insightful

      From a scientific perspective, perhaps. But we're humans. We do or don't do a lot of things for completely unscientific reasons: art, adventure, beauty.

      Isn't there something wondrous about a person floating unsupported? About seeing a sunrise every 90 minutes? About knowing that star you see has a crew?

      I think these things are worth billions of dollars, and a proportional share of my income.

    3. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by koreth · · Score: 1
      I want to go to space. That'll be a lot harder if we stop sending people to space. I don't imagine I'm alone in my desire.

      It's never just been about the science.

    4. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by eyegone · · Score: 1
      I saw some excerpts from a NASA press conference on The Newshour with Jim Leher. Apparently they were getting excessive drag from the damaged wing. The guidance system was trying to compensate -- using both the control surfaces and the maneuvering jets -- and "losing the battle," as the NASA guy put it.

      When the yaw becomes great enough at that speed.... (I get queasy just thinking about it.)

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    5. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by KewlPC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Aside from the no-immediate-use stuff like "How do ants behave in space?" (answer: they dig like crazy), sooner or later we are going to have to send humans off-planet on a permanent/extended trip. Maybe we decide to start mining asteroids, or whatever, but it will most certainly require a human to be present.

      There is only so much that a probe can do. A human geologist on-site could learn more about Mars' geology in a short while than a probe could over the course of its entire mission. You're forgetting that if you landed a probe on Mars, it would be extremely difficult to maneuver it, because of things like a 20 minute communications lag, the fact that you can only communicate with the probe for part of the day, and the limited computing power of the probe's computer.

      The onboard computer is limited because it has to not only be extremly reliable, but it also has to be rad-hardened (maybe not once on Mars, but to survive the trip), which means using slower technology (it's slower because, in order to decrease the odds of cosmic radiation flipping bits, the gates and transistors have to be larger).

      Besides all that, there is the "being there" aspect of it. Seeing what the earth looks like from the moon, school children communicating with astronauts (and even thinking up experiments to try in space, like the ants thing I mentioned above), and things like that, which may not have a direct and immediate scientific value, are no less important.

      Or we could listen to you and just sit here, think small, look up at the stars and planets, but never visit them, because you think it's too expensive and dangerous.

      Your post reminded me of something someone once said:
      "We choose to do these things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
      -John F. Kennedy

    6. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, JFK didn't give a rat's ass about space exploration. It was a total political win for him to say that stuff. The television president..

    7. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 1

      Are you for real? Why have a space program at all, when you are studying places that mankind will never go?

      As for science ... fuck science, it can hang on the coattails of orbital industry. Build comm satellites, solar power stations, and finally the means to reach the asteroids and Jupiter/Saturn to harvest ores and water. (The energy requirements mandate the use of Lunar industry to get it done, hence Moonbases are essential.) Once this kind of stuff is in place, there will be plenty of infrastructure for science to finally eke out its existence and finally have to justify itself for once. The "scientific research" model for space exploration is clearly a failure and the continued flying of its flag is just more whining from PhD's who don't want to get real jobs.

      Finally, putting man in space may not harden the nipples of your average scientist and engineer who are just dying to solve the problems of remote administration, but I don't want billions of dollars spent just to jack off their nerdly hobbies and satisfy their academic egos. Men in space are the real problem solvers for things that happen in space. How many more spacecraft do we have to lose around Mars and Jupiter before we see the light of this truth?

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    8. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by XO · · Score: 1

      Well, the article that I read (earlier mentioned from SFGate) kind of seemed to imply that the craft had started to tilt towards one direction unexpectedly, so the computers straightened it out as they should under air turbulence procedures.

      Here's where my speculation comes in:

      Maybe it was losing pieces of itself at this point in time (perhaps the heat shielding was coming off in larger than to be expected quantities, or something else had fallen off it, or who knows, maybe the wing snapped off?) causing it to bank unexpectedly, the computer thinking it turbulence corrected, and it didn't really matter one bit, because the thing was falling apart at that point in time, and went into the presumed end-over-end roll that caused it to burn into nothing.

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    9. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      So... Just what do we need to mine in the asteroids that is so important that we can't stripmine back home a hundred times cheaper, eh?

      Plenty o' water floatin' the chunk of rock under our feet, too.

      O' course, Industry is busy raping the planet as it is. I doubt they need to go off and muck about with others when this one's still got some life left in her.

    10. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by eclectro · · Score: 1

      Aside from the no-immediate-use stuff like "How do ants behave in space?" (answer: they dig like crazy), sooner or later we are going to have to send humans off-planet on a permanent/extended trip. Maybe we decide to start mining asteroids, or whatever, but it will most certainly require a human to be present.

      Until we decide specifically why we need a human in space, we shouldn't be throwing humans up to space in outdated dangerous technology just for the sake of "sending men to space". That seems to be the overiding purpose of NASA right now.

      A far more reliable and economical vehicle than the space shuttle needs to be developed. $500 million (low end estimate) per launch is not reasonable.

      There is only so much that a probe can do. A human geologist on-site could learn more about Mars' geology in a short while than a probe could over the course of its entire mission.

      And how many trillions of dollars should we spend on this?? Giving the history of NASA to vastly underestimate the cost of a project, to trust any budget numbers from them would be foolish to the extreme. I think that until we have technology that we can trust to safely and cost effectively carry humans to earth orbit (let alone the moon or mars) we should stop the shuttle program and use the billions to send probes to mars and bring back rocks and pictures for the Geologists to analyze on earth. I bet we could bring back alot of rocks for the cost of a single years worth of shuttle flights alot sooner. Sending a geologist to mars is not just decades away, but more likely a century distant. Or are you suggesting that we retrofit the shuttle to go to mars???

      You're forgetting that if you landed a probe on Mars, it would be extremely difficult to maneuver it, because of things like a 20 minute communications lag, the fact that you can only communicate with the probe for part of the day, and the limited computing power of the probe's computer

      Most of these problems have been overcome with the pathfinder missions. Incidentally, the cost of the pathfinder mission is one-half the cost of a single shuttle launch.

      The onboard computer is limited because it has to not only be extremly reliable, but it also has to be rad-hardened (maybe not once on Mars, but to survive the trip), which means using slower technology (it's slower because, in order to decrease the odds of cosmic radiation flipping bits, the gates and transistors have to be larger).

      So are you saying that by having a human in a space vehicle that the computers will then have to be less complicated??? Humans aren't rad-hardened either. Your statement makes no sense.

      Computer technology is evolving so extremely fast, they will be able to think in a few years. Computers are sufficently powerful enough and rad-hardened enough to accomplish sophisticated tasks now. Look at the computers they use in present day communications satellites and the Galileo probe.

      How far has space-shuttle technology evolved in the past few years?? It hasn't evolved a drop. It's the same 70's apollo-era technology. There is nothing about the space shuttle that is going to get people to mars other than it's a rocket.

      I will put my money on computers evolving to the point that a probe can bring back mars rocks (the technology is ready now actually). And if anything does happen to an unmanned probe, a human doesn't die.

      Besides all that, there is the "being there" aspect of it. Seeing what the earth looks like from the moon, school children communicating with astronauts (and even thinking up experiments to try in space, like the ants thing I mentioned above), and things like that, which may not have a direct and immediate scientific value, are no less important.

      We already know what the earth looks like from the moon. People already stopped caring what it looks like before the apollo program ended. Having children talk with the astronauts and the kid's experiments are really neat. But it really is hard explaining to the children what happened to the astronauts after their vehicle exploded on launch or re-entry. Flying the dangerous/outdated shuttle to accomplish great PR is short-sighted beyond belief.

      I think Richard Feynman put it best at the end of his report after the challenger disaster;

      For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

      Or we could listen to you and just sit here, think small, look up at the stars and planets, but never visit them, because you think it's too expensive and dangerous.

      Please take the time to read my post. I did not call for the end of space exploration. I do call for the end of shuttle flights immediately, because they are expensive and dangerous. We could accomplish alot more unmanned exploration for what we spend on shuttle flights. Who is really thinking small here???

      When NASA can present an honest solution to safe and economical manned space travel (not the one in thirty odds of catastrophic failure we apparently have now) perhaps a return to manned spaceflight could be undertaken if there is a specific rational goal to accomplish. But NASA in its current incarnation will have to be dismantled to accomplish this. To throw many billions on another orbiter to accomplish the same marginal (at best) science is a useless goal also.

      When people say we need a man in space "for the romance of it all" and saying that we need space shuttles to do it, people might as well say "it is romantic to die in a billion dollar explosion". People's infatuation with the space shuttle needs to end, otherwise they will again have to pick up pieces of astronauts over three states.

      Your post reminded me of something someone once said: "We choose to do these things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
      -John F. Kennedy


      Your only logical reflection. It would be hard to reorganize NASA.

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    11. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by eclectro · · Score: 1

      Isn't there something wondrous about a person floating unsupported? About seeing a sunrise every 90 minutes? About knowing that star you see has a crew?

      Yes it is wonderous, and it's also called infatuation.

      As long the infatuation with the space shuttle continues, people will have to pick up pieces of astronauts over a three state area.

      We do or don't do a lot of things for completely unscientific reasons: art, adventure, beauty.

      Yes, but art doesn't fall from the sky in flames unless it is a firework.

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    12. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by Mark+Bainter · · Score: 1
      The statement by NASA administrator O'Keefe that "We will find out what is wrong, fix the problem, and continue flying" particularly saccharin. Is everybody's eyes so glassed over with the idea of a man in space that they are willing to go forward until this tragedy repeats itself for a third time, and another seven astronauts die??

      That's a completely vacuous argument. The astronauts sign up for this fully knowing the risks involved. Do you get this upset when planes crash and /hundreds/ of people die? Do you go to forums and announce that we should cease all flights?

      I'd say that NASA's safety record speaks pretty well for it, considering the extreme risks and lack of margin for error that these missions have. I feel for the families of those that were lost, but this was a choice they made. Nobody forced them to sign up to be astronauts, and no-one told them it was going to be all sunshine and roses. There was no deception as to the risks or dangers involved.

      While I'd like to see NASA do more than it currently does, I think what it /is/ doing is still valuable. But for them to do /more/ they are going to have to actually have funding and support. Personally, my ideal would be for NASA to become a private enterprise, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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    13. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by KewlPC · · Score: 1

      So are you saying that by having a human in a space vehicle that the computers will then have to be less complicated??? Humans aren't rad-hardened either. Your statement makes no sense.

      Actually, it makes perfect sense. You missed the point, though. It isn't that the computers would have to be less complicated, in fact they might be MORE complicated. But since you would have to shield the whole craft from radiaton anyway (for the humans), the computers would not have to be quite so rad-hardened.

      Computer technology is evolving so extremely fast, they will be able to think in a few years.

      Think in a few years? Not likely. Asking whether or not machines think is like asking if submarines can swim, but that's beside the point. AI is like those flying cars we were all supposed to be driving by now, in that much of it was just unrealistic "Wouldn't it be cool if..." pipe dreaming.

      Computers are sufficently powerful enough and rad-hardened enough to accomplish sophisticated tasks now. Look at the computers they use in present day communications satellites and the Galileo probe.

      Yeah, they seem sufficiently rad hardened on earth because they are being shielded from most of the cosmic and sun's radiation by the earth's atmosphere and magnetic field. In space, though, it's another matter. The Pentium 4 I'm typing this on would be unreliable at best, and wouldn't work at all at worst.

      Also, it's interesting that you mention the Galileo probe, seeing that its computer was deep fried by the radiation and had all sorts of problems.

      How far has space-shuttle technology evolved in the past few years?? It hasn't evolved a drop. It's the same 70's apollo-era technology. There is nothing about the space shuttle that is going to get people to mars other than it's a rocket.

      No one has ever suggested that the shuttle would be a good vehicle for traveling to Mars in. In fact, even if the shuttle featured the most cutting edge in computing technology it would be unsuitable because it just can't carry enough fuel. In fact, IIRC most of the fuel for its engines gets used up during takeoff.

      The most likely candidate would be to build an entirely new design, one that used nuclear propulsion so that the trip would be as short as possible.

      As for it costing trillions of dollars? I don't think so. But, maybe this time we should just ask NASA, "Ok, how much realistically (i.e. taking into account unforseen problems, test failures, redesigns, etc.) will it cost?" instead of, "Ok, you've got this much to spend. Can you do it?" And then decide if it's too expensive.

      The Columbia was 25 years old. It probably shouldn't have been used for that long, and was only intended to be used for 10 years. But still, if the shuttle were redesigned from scratch today, it probably would be safer and more economical. We've already gotten over the hurdle of building reusable vehicles, and we now know how to solve a lot of the pitfals and problems.

      We already know what the earth looks like from the moon.

      That wasn't the point of that statement. What I meant was seeing what the earth looks like from space or the moon IN PERSON. I would imagine that no picture in existence could do it justice.

      And you can count on the public to get tired of just about anything after a few months of seeing it on the news nonstop. That alone doesn't mean you should stop doing it, though.

      When NASA can present an honest solution to safe and economical manned space travel (not the one in thirty odds of catastrophic failure we apparently have now) perhaps a return to manned spaceflight could be undertaken if there is a specific rational goal to accomplish.

      Except that traveling in space is inherently dangerous. There is no place in the solar system more inhospitable to humans than space. But the only way we are going to learn how to make space travel safer for humans is by doing it. Sort of like how we've learned to make airplanes safer by having flown so often.

      The thing is, for all the times that the shuttle has has gone into space, there have only been two failures (catastrophic ones, though), and one of them (maybe both, we'll see in a few months when the investigation is over) was caused by human oversight and "It's good enough" thinking. Rockets, on the other hand, fail all the time.

    14. Re:NASA doesn't need more video by eclectro · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they seem sufficiently rad hardened on earth because they are being shielded from most of the cosmic and sun's radiation by the earth's atmosphere and magnetic field. In space, though, it's another matter. The Pentium 4 I'm typing this on would be unreliable at best, and wouldn't work at all at worst

      Your ignoring the obvious. If this is such a big problem, then NASA could use some of the billions that they use on the shuttle to overcome it. The fact is that it is no longer a problem

      Quoting the article;

      "NASA administrator Daniel Goldin said the Pentium will help NASA "plumb the depths of the oceans of [Jupiter moon] Europa, take samples from Mars and explore the outer limits of our own solar system."

      Sounds to me that pratical unmanned missions are possible right now. NASA spends all of its money on the shuttle and ISS though.

      As for it costing trillions of dollars? I don't think so. But, maybe this time we should just ask NASA, "Ok, how much realistically (i.e. taking into account unforseen problems, test failures, redesigns, etc.) will it cost?" instead of, "Ok, you've got this much to spend. Can you do it?" And then decide if it's too expensive

      In the middle of the seventies, NASA was asked how much it would cost to go to mars. There response? $500 billion dollars Knowing that NASA has a history of underestimating everything by a factor of least three (look at the price of all the International Space Station overruns)-- that's 1.5 trillion, and that's 1973 dollars. Today it would cost much more. so yes, it would be trillions of dollars

      That wasn't the point of that statement. What I meant was seeing what the earth looks like from space or the moon IN PERSON. I would imagine that no picture in existence could do it justice.

      It's only significant for the single astronaut standing there. So we should spend billions of dollars for the view?? So the astronaut can stand there and be awed?? The experience?? The Hubble space telescope takes great pictures of far away places, and an astronaut is not required for this. Unmanned probes have and can accomplish the same thing with the planets.

      But the only way we are going to learn how to make space travel safer for humans is by doing it.

      That's just it. We aren't learning anything from patching up old shuttle technology and flying it. Nothing is being gained from it. To spend billions on another "safer" vehicle to do exactly what the shuttle is doing makes no sense either

      Having a man in space is "neat", but that's all that it is. the cost is not justified

      I understand what you are trying to say -- because its the same thing NASA has been trying to say.

      In fact though, it's more like a religion, not science.

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      Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
  34. Opera by freeweed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Opera, Opera, Opera, and the chant goes on.

    If you hate popups, AND enjoy a fast browsing experience (esp load times!), it can't be said enough times: give Opera a whirl.

    I know the concept of paying for decent software seems foreign to some here, and your favourite new Flash site of the week may not display 100%, but for everything you say you don't like about IE and Moz, Opera has them beat pants down.

    It's gotten so bad at work that I'm regularly screaming at my machines every time I'm forced to surf the web (stupid default IE installs).

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    1. Re:Opera by Spam+Bandito · · Score: 1

      Amen.

      Seriously, though, try it out. You don't have to pay for it, the free version simply has an ad bar at the top of the screen. You don't even notice it most of the time.

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    2. Re:Opera by samoverton · · Score: 1


      Ironic that you should be so emphatic about Opera on the same day that five new vulnerabilities are discovered in it.

      Long live Mozilla \o/

  35. Re:What is /. using? by On+Lawn · · Score: 5, Informative

    I can't say directly, but indirectly the people that come to my site *ahem*OnRoad a great place for Automotive Engineering discussion *ahem* from slashdot shows that only 20% of them use IE. Opera is only slightly less (15%), with links/linx getting 5%, Netscape getting 20% and Mozilla getting 30%, Pheonix and Galeon get 10%.

    From other sites (like ezboards and Yahoo mailing lists) I get a high percentage of IE and AOL users (50%, 35% respectively) and most of the rest are netscape at 10%.

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  36. I must be alone but... by Stigmata669 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Sometimes I like banner adds if they aren't insane flashing gifs. I visit thinkgeek from slashdot banners sometimes when I see something cool, and often use banners on PC hardward sites to find good online vendors for 'specialized' parts.

    I find tasteful or site specific banners helpful rather than hurtful to my browsing experiance. Plus, I think the user can help keep the ad supported web alive if they don't kill all ads.

    I believe that the model is failing because websites are too indiscriminate in chosing ads to run.

    --
    Yawn.
    1. Re:I must be alone but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      two cents of an AC:

      Readers of Penny Arcade may recall Tycho/Gabe mentioning a little while back about their advertisement policies. No animation/etc. They noted that advertisers were impressed with the results they got on PA even though they were forced to avoid obnoxious banners.

      I am personally rather enjoying my netflix subscription I clicked through from PA to sign up for ;-)

      ~Blake

    2. Re:I must be alone but... by CPT+Carl · · Score: 1

      You're right, you are alone on this one...

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    3. Re:I must be alone but... by anubi · · Score: 1
      No, I do not think you are alone.

      Many times while surfing the net, I am looking for something I need. They do not need a big ad, but it needs to be appropriately placed.

      My best example of ads done right is Google.

      Many times, their ads along the right of the results page have been exactly what I was looking for, and their appropriate placement saved me a lot of time.

      --
      "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]

    4. Re:I must be alone but... by mrmag00 · · Score: 1

      I believe that the model is failing because websites are too indiscriminate in chosing ads to run.

      Exactly. Since most of the content on the internet I can simpley get somewhere else, I do exactly that. If your website is ugly, has a bad design, or has intrusive flash banners that impare reading -achem-, I go somewhere else. I have other things to do with my time then trying to discover how to navigate your inheritly flawed design.

      Exactly why I use google, google news, google newsgroups, and CLICK on their ads. Their useful, non-intrusive, and they aren't bothering me when I'm serious about doing the task at hand (searching).

      An example of bad design would be Slashdot's left bar, in my opinion. It is better filled with content than links most people won't click on. When I go to Slashdot, I am looking for news. If I was looking for the faq, awards, bugs, jobs, etc, I would scroll to the bottom and expect the links to be there.

      But then again, since when did the customer matter anyway.

    5. Re:I must be alone but... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I think you're right about that. Banner ads used to be little more than text and a logo, and the few animated banner ads were funny (I've even saved a few that were particularly creative -- one involved a shark eating a lawyer, another started "Crashed NT server make man angry!" with appropriate silly animation). So at first, banner ads were mostly either unobtrusive or amusing.

      At some point they became the visual equivalent of throwing a tantrum to get attention. Who the hell needs that in their face?

      I solved the problem by disabling images. Others turned to banner blocking methods (and pop-up blocking as that replaced obnoxious banners). But the long and the short of it is, they brought this on themselves.

      Funny thing ... not only do text ads avoid annoying the user (I actually sometimes read and follow relevant textads such as Google coughs up), they also can't be blocked. You'd think advertisers would notice this??

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  37. I made the move to Ogg by djsable · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have begun broadcasting in the Ogg media format recently.. I am using it to replace the Real Media stream from my radio show. At its smallest setting, the sound quality is pretty good, and Win Amp has a plug in for Ogg, so it made it an easy bet to go Ogg instead of Real. Whose advertising methods with its free player drive me nuts, I have been looking for a replacement for Real for a while, and Ogg is it. Ogg joins Win Media as my two formats for the Show.

    badger

  38. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by freeweed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sapphire/Slammer got around that by being small enough to fit into a single packet(!) so that it didn't have to wait for a return message, but that small size sharply limited its possible payload.

    Slammer was under 400 bytes as it was. Now, won't most IP networks pass 1500 or so byte packets without fragmenting? That's a lot of extra room to toss in a nasty payload. Maybe all we need to do is convince MS to force their buffer overflows to require at least 1500 bytes :)

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  39. Thought of CSS before... by Jezral · · Score: 2, Informative

    I thought of the CSS trick before, since it's a pretty "nice" way of not showing ads.

    The hit still gets counted, the ad still gets downloaded, but nobody views it.

    Even made a small proxy program in PHP to test it, just going by my hosts file and adding style="display: none;" to the tags of the ads.
    That way, it works with any browser.
    Bloody ate my CPU, though. RegExp is a hog...

    -- Tino Didriksen / ProjectJJ.dk

    1. Re:Thought of CSS before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Bloody ate my CPU, though. RegExp is a hog...]

      try using perl, instead of PHP.

  40. RE: Mozilla CSS Trick - I hate to say it, but... by thecampbeln · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... wouldn't "solutions" like this hinder mozilla-esque support adoption amongst major sites? I mean ads are how most web sites pay for the content that we otherwise get for free. Except for the annoying as hell pop-over/iframe and Flash ads, I can't say I mind banners at all. If a lot of users implement this kind of thing (which is virtually undecidable from the web server's POV thanks to it being client-side CSS), what would stop the marketing drones from saying "if Mozilla won't show the ads, lets not allow access from Mozilla browsers"? Or worse implement the click-thru style of advertising that some site have already begun using!?

    Do note that I am implementing this CSS on Phoenix as we speak ;) But still, I'm happy with the current paradigm of banner ads, is it a good idea to futz with that paradigm for fear of something even more annoying?

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  41. useful addition to the CSS by fenrissmurf · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Adding the line:
    EMBED[SRC*="ads/"] { display: none ! important }
    (and its various permutations) gets rid of shockwave ads, which are becoming more and more popular, especially in everyones favorite (free registration req'd) online newspaper.

    1. Re:useful addition to the CSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So? Go an implement it instead of sitting around bitching, you knob gobbler.

  42. Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    a great trick to get rid of embedded ads (banners and iframes) using plain CCS and the always amazing Mozilla flexibility and openness.
    Great, Mozilla finally has a feature iCab has had for years, only instead of pointing and clicking, I have to write some obscure CSS shit! Thanks to the openness of Mozilla!
  43. Scarily Warhol-speed propagation by billstewart · · Score: 4, Interesting
    At its peak, it was scanning about 100 times as many machines as it eventually infected (though the exact number of victims is very hard to determine.) Now, this is partly because the average victim could spray over 100 targets per second, since the infection method required just one amazingly fast packet, so you'd expect this kind of thing to happen ;-) But it felt a lot like A Fire Upon The Deep, where the computer virus found in the old library is becoming self-aware and jumping onto the escaping rocket ship - it was clearly Warhol speed. We don't know how many machines were really infected, because the random number generator was slightly buggy, so any given virus-detection point would only see hits from the numerically-nearby infected machines.

    It would probably have taken very little extra work to add an arbitrarily large payload to it, built as a second module. Leave the original scanner blasting away with the small packets, since most of them won't succeed in infecting a machine, but have a newly-infected machine contact the machine that infected it to fetch the second payload (and then forget where that one came from, to make later back-tracing harder).

    I doubt you'll see a detailed white paper about Bank of America's system; most big companies would consider that kind of thing proprietary, though almost any large financial company would have put together a large team to spend several days of argument, wrangling, and recrimination to find out what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again, but you'll only see a technical explanation if they decide that's the best public-relations move. Most of the guesses I've seen on the net (or at least the ones that sounded plausible to me :-) are that they were probably just using internet-based VPNs to support those ATMs, and got flooded out by the worm's volume, but didn't actually get infected. Hard to say whether the parts that got flooded were the little ends near each ATM, the big end near the bank, or somewhere in the middle like some ATM network service provider. Remember that 10-15000 IP addresses makes a much bigger target than a single IP address, so if there's anywhere that their connections are all visible, the traffic flood could be pretty heavy.

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
    1. Re:Scarily Warhol-speed propagation by chiph · · Score: 1

      Back when I did some work for BofA (when they had just become NationsBank), they were using SNA for running their ATM network. While I'm sure SNA is as vulnerable to worms/attacks as any other protocol, there's something to be said about running an obscure networking OS. Chip H.

    2. Re:Scarily Warhol-speed propagation by billstewart · · Score: 1
      I did actually work on some parts of that network in a previous job. The big security advantage of SNA is that, unlike on the Internet where anybody can send packets to anybody else if there's no firewall in the way, in an SNA network people can only send stuff on their own networks after somebody's done lots of work making sure it's all connected right. Of course, these days lots of the SNA is really tunneled across IP, so it could also be carried on the Internet or a private network, but back when lots of banks still ran their ATMs on 9600 baud multi-drop circuits with 10-20 ATMs on them and various polling protocols, there wasn't anybody else's packet that could get on your wires.

      It was possible to port UUCP to run on top of it. Spectacularly bad idea, but possible....

      --

      Bill Stewart
      New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  44. I see a DDoS coming... by emc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Great, first NASA had to watch the Colombia be destroyed...

    Now, countless copies of goatse.cx are going to be uploaded to their server, blinding many of our nations finest...

    My heart is extended to the families of the (soon-to-be) victims.

    1. Re:I see a DDoS coming... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

      MOD PARENT UP

      That's the first time I've ever seen goatse.cx in a slashdot post and not screamed in pain!!!!!

    2. Re:I see a DDoS coming... by evilviper · · Score: 1

      It's their own fault... All this could have been avoided if they just hadn't given the shuttles names that started with a "C". It should be a law...

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  45. To block the IGN flash ads... by blake213 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I added my own little customization to block IGN's ultra-annoying flash ads:

    /* Flash ads */
    EMBED[SRC*="ads."] { display: none ! important }
    EMBED[SRC*="ad."] { display: none ! important }

    Works pretty well.

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    mund freud.
  46. Re:help NASA out! by satanami69 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Bend over and I'll re-enter my shuttle up your ass a few times, take pictures and upload those.

    --
    I really hate Dan Patrick.
  47. Remember, blocking advertisements is STEALING!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or so that's what every single marketing person/faceless corporation that advertises on the net believes.

  48. Just great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can see it now- 10 million dweebs opening up their favorite image editing program so they can submit faked or edited pics of columbia to NASA. If you were seriously considering doing so, please save the rest of the world some trouble by going outside and shooting yourself.

  49. Me too! by cwsulliv · · Score: 1

    I've been making Slashdot ad-free too -- I subscribed!

  50. Re:Right on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "Your petty whining and retardedness have caused us to finally get the hardware and bandwidth that we've been craving all these years at a price we can afford."
    Unless we've all got 100Mb fibre lines (I certainly don't), I think, sadly enough, that the AOL'ers are not quite finished just yet.
  51. i choose you, proxomitron by vena · · Score: 1

    on a windows system (yeah, i know), i haven't found a better all around annoyance blocker than the proxomitron.

    check it - http://www.proxomitron.org/

    1. Re:i choose you, proxomitron by SoftwareTechie · · Score: 1

      I second this. As well as built-in filters you can add your own. It has its own regex-style pattern matching language too.

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      Political Correctness is doubleplusungood.
  52. Military involved..... by anonymous+cupboard · · Score: 1

    It sounds like (at the press conference today)they are getting a lot of military involved in the investigation panels. Why military? I would rather have some more independent people there (esp. with O'Keefe's Navy connections).

    1. Re:Military involved..... by Zeinfeld · · Score: 1
      It sounds like (at the press conference today)they are getting a lot of military involved in the investigation panels. Why military?

      That is not too suprising since NASA is a quasi-military outfit. All the early astronauts were test pilots, all the shuttle commanders and pilots are military officers.

      The shuttles are built by military contractors and much of the design is classified as military secrets. Basically if you understand how to build those booster rockets you understand a good deal that would help you build an ICBM.

      Basically the military is the main place outside of NASA you would find the expertise to examine the issues. The other place would be the elite engineering universities like MIT.

      However expertise is not everything. Feynman did not find out about the rubber O rings himself, he just knew how to ask the right questions to get to the bottom of things. He was actually tipped off about the O rings. However the panel could dissmis the peons who were suggesting an O ring failure but there was no way they could dismiss Dick Feynman.

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    2. Re:Military involved..... by AndyDeck · · Score: 1

      > It sounds like (at the press conference today)they are getting a lot of military involved in the investigation panels. Why military?

      That is not too suprising since NASA is a quasi-military outfit. All the early astronauts were test pilots, all the shuttle commanders and pilots are military officers.

      The shuttles are built by military contractors and much of the design is classified as military secrets. Basically if you understand how to build those booster rockets you understand a good deal that would help you build an ICBM.

      Basically the military is the main place outside of NASA you would find the expertise to examine the issues. The other place would be the elite engineering universities like MIT.

      However expertise is not everything. Feynman did not find out about the rubber O rings himself, he just knew how to ask the right questions to get to the bottom of things. He was actually tipped off about the O rings. However the panel could dissmis the peons who were suggesting an O ring failure but there was no way they could dismiss Dick Feynman.


      That was my second (or third) thought on Saturday morning (after "I can't believe we lost another one" and "Did they have time/warning enough to get out?") - that it's a damn shame we won't be able to call on Feynman to help us figure this one out.

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  53. Paranoid followup to my own article by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's even worse than it appears :-) If the percentage of systems vulnerable to Slammer / Sapphire had been much higher, they could still have been infected in the same amount of time or faster, because the infection only depends on the vulnerable machine being hit by the packet, so those 55 million attacks/second at peak could infect 55 million machines just as easily as one machine. (And of course, more infected machines means more attacks getting out, subject to ISP bandwidth bottlenecks, so the peak speed would probably have been even highter.)

    The main Warhol Worm / Flash Worm papers were concerned about worms that had some level of efficiency and coordination of their targets - first scan for targets over a long period of time, then take 10,000 zombies and give each one a partial list of targets to attack, and hauling around the list of targets turns out to slow the process significantly, in return for increased efficiency. This one just used random search and let it rip, so it didn't need the overhead of using a list, though it's possible that the perpetrator had some set of targets pre-planned, as opposed to just taking an 0wnzr'd Korean proxy server and spraypainting Korea with it to start off the process.

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  54. Opera fix info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.aagh.net/projects/antibanner

  55. Yeah by mlk · · Score: 1

    Advertise a feature which will remove your primary means of funding.

    Go slashdot, go :)

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    Wow, I should not post when knackered.
  56. plasma by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    Film cameras have no problems picking up things like ionized gas or plasma that the naked eye can't see. Not sure about his digital cam though.

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  57. Horse Hockey! It was right on the money. by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 1
    I guess my joke wasn't delivered to well.

    It made me laugh out loud with no 'splanation. I'd mod it up if I could.

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    Sigs are bad for your health.
  58. but no one installs patches anyway. by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 1

    so it doesn't matter.

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  59. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by KnightStalker · · Score: 1

    According to eweek the BofA infection was traced to some manager with an infected laptop. Still, that's too close for my comfort.

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  60. Duh by KnightStalker · · Score: 1

    Sorry, that was JP Morgan Chase, not BofA. No word on their infection. :-)

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  61. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    ``What if the next one gets launched during something like 9/11 or Desert Storm II?''
    If they launch it during something like 9/11, not much is going to happen, because the 'net will be flooded anyway. At least there weren't too many sites, let alone news sites, that I could access reliably during 9/11.

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  62. Circumvention of the Pee patent by rworne · · Score: 1

    The answer to your prayers:

    I have here a document showing how women engineered around the "Excretion of urea in solution via a hose type device" patent:

    How to pee standing without devices

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    I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
  63. Yes and no by cscx · · Score: 1

    If you disable IE's autoloading (by changing the shell) -- you'll notice because it displays a logo box "Microsoft Internet Explorer 6" or whatnot. It takes a little bit longer, but still less than half the time that Mozilla takes to load. I've tried this on a Win98 machine with the new shell stripped (using 98Lite).

  64. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    because the 'net will be flooded anyway

    That's my point. What happens when the net is under heavy load, and someone dumps another heavy load on top of it? How many other 911/bank/ATM sevices would fail? It could even affect pr0n downloads!

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  65. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by cscx · · Score: 1

    You might try asking this guy.

  66. you know by AnimeFreak · · Score: 1

    I find it funny that Slashdot disabled the ability to block sites using your own preferences. Yet, they advocate the useage of ad-blocking software.

    Double standard?

  67. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah, I forgot: The military is supposed to have their own independant routing and whatnot, but I didn't see any assurances that none of their systems were affected by Slammer.

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  68. UDP should not be banned. It is useful by moncyb · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Internet is more than just the web and email. UDP does have it's uses. Some types of networking will just work better with it. How would you do multicasting with TCP? What about video games? I doubt they'd work as well with TCP. If you think games are useless, you are wrong. FPS are early generation virtual reality systems. I think the Internet will be a better place if the VR dream comes true.

    This problem happened because Microsoft is made up of idiots. This port was open because of thier "easy to use" bullshit. There is no need to open a second fixed port you are unable to disable so that other systems can figure out which port the database server is on, and they had a buffer overflow in this code too! There is a reason there are both default ports and places you can specify ports in URLs and such. Why have a discovery service in the first place? Bad judgment.

  69. Mozilla Speed [Re:Ah, yes] by gweg · · Score: 1

    I've been testing the nightly builds for Mozilla 1.3 on RedHat 8 and Windoz and they have made some significant performance improvements. I think Mozilla will be ready for the mainstream pretty soon.

    1. Re:Mozilla Speed [Re:Ah, yes] by The+Bungi · · Score: 2, Funny
      Your post was beginning to sound interesting when all of the sudden...

      Windoz

      ... I lost you.

  70. Ad fix for Phoenix on Windows XP by scythian · · Score: 1

    Two of you have posted that it works great on phoenix. I can't seem to get it working, and I've tried posting it here and there. Where exactly does it go, and is there a checkbox to enable in preferences or advanced prefs?
    Anyone give me a good demo site?
    Thanks!
    -Rob

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  71. User style sheets by jesser · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Floppymoose's ad blocking CSS is an example of a user style sheet. User style sheets can do much more than hide parts of pages.

    The user style sheet I use does the following:
    • Link styles:
      • Links to Slashdot are bold and Slashdot-green.
      • Links to mozilla.org have a 16x16 red-dino logo next to them.
      • Links to goatse.cx are brown and crossed out.
      • javascript: links are green.
      • mailto: links have an envolope icon next to them.
    • Borders for image links. Solid blue for unvisited links, dashed purple for visited links.
    • Hide all reset buttons.
    • Before each named anchor, display the name in the format [#foo], but make it 80% transparent so it doesn't get in the way of the actual text of the page.
    • Ignore the effects of blink and marquee tags
    The CSS code for most of these is on http://www.squarefree.com/userstyles/.

    I also use the "test styles" bookmarklet to create temporary, site-specific user style sheets. My most common temporary user style sheets hide visited links (useful on sites that serve random image links every time you load them), make all text lowercase (useful for reading all-caps text), and change the color of visited links (useful for sites that use the same color for unvisited links).
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  72. why we need the shuttle (or something like it) by mattorb · · Score: 1
    You say that "no significant science is being gained from continuing to send man into space." I humbly submit that you are wrong. :-)


    I won't bore you with arguments about spin-off technology and so forth; I've never completely bought into them myself. I just want to tell you about a telescope.


    For me, the Hubble Space Telescope is probably the best continuing example of why we need continuing manned spaceflight. You can argue that HST isn't worth the money, that the money would be better spent on Earth, etc., but I don't think you can argue that it doesn't return good scientific results -- if you do hold that view, I guess you can stop reading this now.


    It's true that HST would have been largely useless without direct astronaut intervention early in its life. You remember those first photos, don't you? Those would've been all we had for our $2 billion or so initial investment, had HST not been serviceable. Those images of the Eagle Nebula (the "pillars of creation" that have become almost an icon)? Gone, along with countless less-heralded spectra and images and insights.


    It's also true that HST should never have been screwed up in the first place, so maybe that's not a great argument for the Shuttle. :-) But there have been lots of less dramatic improvements to the instruments aboard HST over the years, continuing even today. Take, for example, the Cosmic Origins Spectrograph scheduled to be placed on HST in the next servicing mission -- I won't bore you with a catalog of all the scientific justifications for COS (you can find them if you want), but rest assured that the astronomical community, anyway, was excited by it. We need human intervention to install COS on HST, as we have needed it for countless other maintenance tasks and as we will need it again. (We also, incidentally, need the Shuttle to periodically reboost HST -- fortunately this was done in the last servicing mission, so we're fine till maybe 2007. But if the Shuttle isn't in operation again by then, HST will come down.)


    There will probably be other missions like HST, missions that for whatever reason will require human intervention if they are to succeed. Maybe they will be faulty in some regard, and in need of repair; maybe they'll just need maintenance or upgrading or whatever. But they'll need something, every great once in a while.


    You can argue that it isn't worth it, that the costs and risks of manned spaceflight outweigh the benefits; it's a perfectly legitimate argument, one I respect a great deal. I just want you to realize that there are scientific benefits, and that you (or some of us, anyway) will miss them if the capability for manned spaceflight disappears. Note that I'm not arguing that the Shuttle itself is a perfect launch vehicle, and I'm sure as hell not arguing that the ISS alone is a reason for sustaining human spaceflight.


    There are other, less tangible benefits to human spaceflight; but they are appeals to the soul, not the mind, and it is for each of us to decide how much weight they can hold. That is a topic for another post; this one is long enough.


    Just my 2 cents. (and yes, IAAA.)

    1. Re:why we need the shuttle (or something like it) by LarsBT · · Score: 1
      So Hubble cost $2 billion

      A shuttle launch in excess of $500 million.

      It doesn't take to many service missions to make it cheaper just to launch a new telescope.

      There are benefits of manned flights, if not just for the purpose of seing what it does to the austronauts - and see what they need and can perform in space. Collecting data for the illustrious colonization of the solar system.

      But the shuttle is not the way to go to get the scientific data. IMHO the space shuttle is too ancient. NASA should be able to build a better manned vehicle with the experiences of the shuttle missions.

      And separate payload missions from the manned ones. The austronauts don't need to carry their baggage.

    2. Re:why we need the shuttle (or something like it) by eclectro · · Score: 1

      You know, the Hubble Telescope has to be the brightest gem of the Space Shuttle. And the science that it produces is wonderful and worthwhile.

      But how much did this cost? From this FAQ;

      "Initially Hubble cost $1.5 billion to build and put into orbit."

      Then from this budget FAQ;

      "For fiscal year 2000, the Shuttle budget is $2.98 billion."

      So using NASA's own numbers you could nearly replace the Hubble Space Telescope twice over every year for what it costs to fly the space shuttles yearly. So if you need different equipment in a space telescope, you could just send up a new telescope for what it costs to fly the shuttle a couple of flights.

      That's why commercial satellites are replaced outright rather than retrieved and repaired. It's just not worth it.

      In fact, NASA's next generation space telescope doesn't use a space shuttle to get it into orbit nor will it use a space shuttle to service it.

      There will probably be other missions like HST, missions that for whatever reason will require human intervention if they are to succeed. Maybe they will be faulty in some regard, and in need of repair; maybe they'll just need maintenance or upgrading or whatever. But they'll need something, every great once in a while

      The space shuttle is only accomplishing a small fraction of it's original designed mission. The space shuttle truly fits the cliche' of "being able to do all things, but is good at none of them." The space station seems created as an afterthought to give the shuttle something to do. If a manned spaceflight "is needed every great once in a while" then have manned spaceflight as needed "every great once in a while". But using the shuttle as a commuter to space is not wise From that report "...this has had very unfortunate consequences, the most serious of which is to encourage ordinary citizens to fly in such a dangerous machine, as if it had attained the safety of an ordinary airliner."

      I am sure that the need for manned spaceflight may appear. But in light of this recent disaster, one has to ask at what cost that the need will be met at.

      There are other, less tangible benefits to human spaceflight; but they are appeals to the soul, not the mind, and it is for each of us to decide how much weight they can hold. That is a topic for another post; this one is long enough.

      I stayed up all night and watched in wonder and awe as the Coulmbia first launched into space. I really believed in NASA and the space shuttle. Even after the first Challenger disaster I was able to believe that it was a "one-off" and that the problems were really fixed.

      Up to this last weekend, I towed the NASA line and thought the space program was on track. I always thought the chances of a disaster, while high, would not be seen in the shuttle's lifetime.

      But after this disaster, something was bothering me. It was like a quiet voice down deep that I wasn't listening to. Hearing the statements by everybody sounded just the same as after the Challenger disaster. The more I thought about, the more I asked "what is it we are trying to do here???"

      It's like the little string on the sweater, once you pull it the whole thing becomes unravelled

      The more I looked, the more I realized that the space shuttle is a deluded effort, and delusions were what driving most of the decisions made at NASA. The more I researched it, the more it became apparent that it was "the less tangible benefits" that was driving the space program, not the search for quality science. NASA is not being honest by saying otherwise. Otherwise they would give up the PR stunt of getting a teacher into space.

      As Richard Feynman put it "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."

      I think that perhaps that is my rub. NASA is not being honest with the public as to the real costs of continuuing to fly the shuttle. Not just the risks to human life, but what missed opportunites that are lost because the funds are spent on trying to keep the shuttle flying.

      It's the "less tangible benefits" that is preventing real science from moving forward. And I do not think they are worth having to pick up pieces of shuttle and astronauts over three states either.

      The need for manned spaceflight at the costs (both human risk and fiscally) just is not apparent to me at this time. And pursuing the "less tangible benefits" while noble can not be justified with current shuttle technology.

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      Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
    3. Re:why we need the shuttle (or something like it) by mattorb · · Score: 1
      Please understand: I actually agree that the Shuttle is by this point a bloated and perhaps misguided enterprise. It's by no means an ideal vehicle for manned spaceflight.


      But it's all we have, and all we will have for a while. I'm all for replacing it with something else, but in the meantime we need to keep it running.


      FYI, you're correct that the NGST will not be serviceable... but that's a source of great concern to a lot of people right now, and I wouldn't be shocked if it changed. We don't want it to get out to L2 and then find out it's useless. Some folks are calling for NGST to be deployed to LEO, tested, and then somehow boosted to its final orbit; I've even heard mutterings about modifying the Shuttle to go to L2 (ha!). There are very, very compelling scientific reasons for placing NGST in a non-serviceable orbit, but it's a decision that wasn't taken lightly.

  73. "Faster, Better, Cheaper." by DoctorFrog · · Score: 1
    Pick any two!

    ...

    Bad choice.

  74. worm speed/automatic defenses by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From TFA:

    Sapphire reached its peak scanning rate of over 55 million scans per second across the Internet in under 3 minutes... worm defenses need to be automatic; there is no conceivable way for system administrators to respond to threats of this speed

    That statement borders in irresponsible. There is no reasonable way to deal with a threat like this after the fact, however fast your gee-whiz IDP solution claims to shut down an anomaly incident. Don't even get me started on the estimated response speed of a federal Internet crisis center. The bottom line is that more public thought needs to go into making long term security decisions, starting with what software is selected for a particular purpose and how effectively and strictly that software is managed.

    All this statement is going to do is give the executive level FUD meisters at (insert your favorite security/network gear company here) more ammo to shut down the ability of IT administrators to do their job.

  75. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this all points back to Steve Gibson and his "small is beautiful"-campaign :)

  76. Re: Mozilla CSS Trick - I hate to say it, but... by juahonen · · Score: 1

    It's not much different from ad-filtering proxies. Or firewalls with ad and popup filtering. And what if some site makes the decision to ban Mozilla? I'll bet there's soon a patch available which enables the user to set the UA identification string to whatever they like.

    You can't disallow access for open-source on open protocol.

  77. Re:What is /. using? by g4dget · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but that's not a reliable number. Some web sites see over 90% IE usage. You can easily up your IE prevalence by making your site work worse with non-IE browsers. The actual percentage of users who use IE as their primary browser is different from the percentage of users who use IE to reach specific web sites. A good guess is that it probably doesn't quite reach 90%. (This message is actually being posted from IE, but IE is not my primary browser, nor is Windows my primary OS.)

  78. just charge people by g4dget · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If you just institute properly designed volume-based charges, then sites that get compromised by worms will pay for the actual cost they impose on the rest of the Internet. I guarantee you that after they get presented with their first $100k bill, most administrators will get a bit more careful about patching their IIS or MSSQL servers.

  79. Consider that the PRNG may not have been buggy... by Sun+Tzu · · Score: 1
    ...But, rather, may have increased the rate of infection.

    Most SQL Servers are, presumably, behind firewalls so a random number generator that generates numerically closer IP's would tend to spread behind firewalls far, far faster than a truly random one covering the entire IP address range.

    I think the 'bug' was deliberate.

    Send us your Linux Sysadmin articles.

  80. Ad blocking with CSS by Fweeky · · Score: 1

    I wrote anti-banner.css ages ago which uses some of these tricks to remove banners, although it mostly goes with object sizes, since I use Opera, which doesn't yet support the more fancy CSS 3 selectors.

    So, do I get a front page post on /. now? :P

  81. Slapper was a variation on an older worm, I think by sirshannon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The original actually tried to do something. It logged into SQL Server using the SA account and a blank password (if someone was dumb enough to leave that...) and then emailed the schema (and data, maybe, I didn't actually test it, just read it) to it's author, set up a new account with it's own password, changed the sa account's password to that password, and then looked for any other SQL Server on the net.

    unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), this scanning for other servers slowed the server down so much that it was noticable if you were in the room with the machine. It sounds to me like someone saw what a load it was putting on the net and the machines infected and decided to cut out the section that gathered the database information and just let it spread freely, assuming it would lock up the net the way it did.

    I'm not completely certain that this is the same worm, but it sounds like it.

  82. Re: Mozilla CSS Trick - I hate to say it, but... by f0rt0r · · Score: 1

    Put this into perspective, when you decide to run a web site that is connected to the Internet, you need to understand that anyone else who is also connected to the Internet can potentially access it. You know what the costs are, and it was YOUR decision to put up the web site in the first place, and it's also your risk that your site will become popular and start using a large amount of resources ( including bandwidth ). I personnaly don't believe in charging people to access web content, nor do I believe in ads. This all stems from the fact I came on the Internet when both of these ideas were foreign, and I really wish either commercial interests had stayed off the Internet, or at least formed their own network ( maybe .com specific? ) separate from the original net that offered everything for free with NO ADS whatsoever. My web server hosts serveral domains for FREE and I wouldn't have it any other way.

    Ahh. how I miss those early days of downloading Pamela Anderson pics off an Ad-free Internet.

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  83. Hey editors! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    When posting a slashback story, it would be really nice if you populated the posts with inital heading posts for each category. That way, all the comments related to one category could all be in one thread instead of all mixed together amongst lame 'first post' attempts.

    (This would also preemptively derail all 'first posts' -- a nice side effect!)

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  84. Crazy Browser|IE|ETC Vs. Mozilla by tuxracer · · Score: 1
  85. Tax Avoidance is not Tax Evasion by kence · · Score: 1

    "While patent donations are one of the latest twists on corporate philanthropy, the practice has aroused the curiosity of the IRS as a possible tax avoidance scheme."

    So what if it's a scheme for tax avoidance? There is nothing illegal about tax avoidance, only tax evasion -- an important distinction people often miss.

  86. Adzapper for squid proxy server by jgerry · · Score: 1

    adzapper.sourceforge.net

    Filters ads at the proxy level, works great, unobtrusive.

  87. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by SillySlashdotName · · Score: 1

    READ, people READ!

    The original article stated that the worm was effectivly DDOSing the ATMs - they were timing out before the transaction was completed.

    The MS SQL WORM was not hitting the terminals - front or back end - it was utilizing the bandwidth so the bank transaction could not complete in the time allotted by the bank.

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  88. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by GregGardner · · Score: 1

    Ok, calm down Mr. Huffy. Do you have a link to said article? I have yet to find one that didn't say anything more than "BofA's ATM network was affected, people were unable to withdraw money, now it's fixed."

    I didn't imply that it was hitting the terminals or not, front end or back end. I am theorizing that they are using a private network (like frame relay or ATM (the other kind of ATM) ) that's not connected to the Internet in any way, but shares bandwidth with other Internet-connected machines that were over-utilizing the network with Slammer. This theory seems to go with what you are saying was stated in some article. I would like to read this article if you have a URL. Thanks.

  89. Re:That Slammer analysis paper is quite interestin by SillySlashdotName · · Score: 1

    Hey! _MR_ Huffy is my father! :)

    Sorry, I was not trying to rant in my post.

    I got that from (I believe) the Washington Post - which I also thought was referenced in the original article but I could have found it from some other surfing start point, but the article now does not specify the transactions "timed out", only that it made transactions "difficult".

    Washington Post

    From the article (current?)

    "Gagnon said that the worm, which slows down computer networks by replicating rapidly and spreading to other servers, did not cause any damage to customer information, but slowed down or blocked access to that sensitive information, making transactions difficult. "

    Other reading seems to point to the slowdown being caused, as you said, by the overlap of services that use ATM as well as public internet.

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    Acts of massive stupidity are almost never covered by warranty. --me.