I'm as interested in restoring a sense of personal responsibility to the world as you are. I'm also interested in restoring a sense of professional and/or corporate responsibilty. As part of that, I think it is reasonable to expect PayPal to at least persue fraud allegations promptly. I agree that they shouldn't be expected to eat the costs of fraud, but they shouldn't abandon their customers to the winds, either.
In the end, though, you are correct: the only real, effective recourse is to take our business elsewhere. Nothing says "You Suck!" like being put out of business because you pissed off your customers.
I'm not an ADC member, so perhaps the article was just wrong, but Sun has 1.4.1_01 (first patch release to 1.4.1) out and available for Linux, Solaris and Windows.
1.4.1 had some major breakage (e.g. drag-n-drop was f'ed up pretty good). I just dloaded 1.4.1_01, and haven't yet read the release notes, but if they fixed the things that were obviously borken in 1.4.1, it'll be a damn fine upgrade for those Mac folk stuck back on 1.3.1. Lots of bugs fixed, lots of improvements.
Though I don't use Macs, here's hoping that Apple has a clue and either releases 1.4.1_01 or at least merges the most importent bug fixes back into their 1.4.1 tree (assuming their contract with Sun allows for that).
My mother should have taught me better than to feed the trolls, but what the hell...
So then, you have no idea at all what the NRA is really about, do you? They do more than any other group to educate children about gun saftey with their "Eddie Eagle" program. They work hard to make sure that the laws of our country are actually applied, as opposed to simply used as PR for political campaigns. They help to organize and promote a wide array of shooting sports. And, of course, they work their asses off to ensure that we don't lose our right to bear arms.
I think the poster you're replying to has a very interesting and sensable giving program. ACLU to protect most of our Constitutional rights (they read more into the 1st Amendment than I think is warranted and ignore the 2nd, but that's for another rant), NRA to cover the 2nd (in addition to all the other good they do), and the EFF because the "mainstream" groups don't really get how technology changes the challanges to our liberty. Very nice.
What you, dear troll, seem to be saying (in your delightfully ignorant way) is: "I don't like the NRA, so they shouldn't get any special status." Very enlightened of you. Guess what? Millions of people disagree with you. They are off all races and creeds, both men and women, young and old. They span the political spectrum from way off the Right edge to just shy of falling off the left edge. What they have in common is an abiding belief in our basic right to defend ourself and those we love against those who would rob us of our property, or liberty or our life.
Yeah, I'm sure the scanner problem is just a config issue. I probably went through the same thing in 7.2 and just have forgotten.
As for gnome 2.0, I ran null for about a week and it seemed ok for me. No panel crashes, anyway. Since I just installed psyche last night, I cannot speak for it with certainty, but it panel was fine during the time I did run it.
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Actually, only three are installation discs. Two are source (SRPMs) and one is docs. In their defense, there is roughly one metric shitload of stuff that you can install. One thing I found refreshing (though I've not yet tested it) is an option for "minimal" package install taht is for routers, firewalls and such. I may have a look at that this weekend.
I did install 8.0 last night. I was running "null" for the last week or so, and it looks like most of my problems with null were fixed. One hassle is that my laptop doesn't have APM support; like most new laptops it is ACPI only. The kernel RedHat ships isn't ACPI enabled, unforch. Easy enough to fix, of course, but annoying none the less.
My only real outstanding issues are suspend (which swsusp should cover if I can't get Toshiba's ACPI BIOS to cooperate) and scanner support.
Unforch, the latter was a problem in 7.3 as well, and I never did get it working. Worked fine in 7.2, IIRC. Epson Perfection 1200U Photo is the scanner model. I haven't really done any looking into the issue, though, just tried SANE and it couldn't find the scanner.
All in all 8.0 looks pretty nice. The root menu (or the "start menu" that has replaced it $#@%!) is still a fsking mess, with many config tools not there. I do virtually all my config using my favorite config tool though (vi), so that is mostly an issue for interfaces they've changed. Some of the new GUI prefs tools are pretty nice, though, so I may well start using them.
The AI fonts looke nice, though the only fonts available for gnome-terminal (using the std prefs dialog anyway, haven't checked to see if good ole "fixed" is available) look like shite when made small enough to fit two terms side-by-side on my XGA display. Quick install of either the old fonts or rxvt should fix that, though, and the tradeoff is well worth it for most users (nice clear text in slightly larger sizes).
In short, I approve of 8.0. The new compiler tool chain, Python 2.2.1, Mozilla 1.0.1, GTK+/GNOME 2.0, etc. made upgrading an eazy decision for me.
Well, though I have no idea whether they would be more or less common over urban areas, it certainly would make sense that their formation might well be affected by the heat island effect. In addition, the particulates from industry may well have an affect as well. Please note: IANACNAMNDIPEOT.
Um, no, they wouldn't. Neither would most of the rest of we non-believers.
It would suck, of course, but at no time would I think "God struck her down" or anything like that.
Further, your assumptions are bogus.
People are not spread evenly accross the surface of the planet. They are concentrated in urban areas; those living out futher are spread out widely.
Huge chunks of ice falling from the sky are pretty rare. But a) we have no idea how rare, because the evidence tends to disappear, and b) according to the article (you did read the article, right?), 50 were found in the last decade, and that is an estimated 1/5 of the total in that time. I question how the estimate was reached, but it is probably conservative.
Atheists don't generally carry rosary beads. We're kinda funny that way, not believing in God and all. I think I may have a rosary somewhere back at my mom's place, as I was raised Catholic sorta half heartedly as a child. I don't remember for sure if I ever got a rosary, though, as that was close to thirty years ago, and the whole Christian thing didn't take, anyway. Regardless, they're just not common fasion accessories amongst non-believers, be they atheist, agnostic or just apathetic.
If you had read the article, you would have learned that these climactic changes are common. They have happened many times in the past, and will most likely happen again in the future.
The only thing mentioned about global warming in the article (other than the hype^h^h^h^hheadline) was the assertion (un-supported) that "It is reasonable to assume that greenhouse warming can exacerbate the possibility of precipitating large, abrupt, and regional or global climatic changes."
Hardly a statement that the climate change is "BECAUSE OF" global warming.
So, perhaps you should consider reading the article before calling people "bonhead", eh?
Financial records are pertinant. They should be considered, in concert with all the other points. No one point should necessarily produce a warning. But in concert, they may well. For instance, a sudden large deposit followed by the purchase of large ticket items in cash (say a private plane, plane tickets, flight school tuition, etc.) might be an indicator. Again, not to have someone hauled off in chains, but to flag them for closer inspection. Most folks so flagged would be immediately cleared. It is one way to help prioritize the actions by human agents, but certainly couldn't replace them.
As for the trust issue, I'm afraid I'm of the opinon that trust is earned. I agree that "foreigners" would be disproportionally targeted for investigation. So would people who like to move around a lot. So? Makes sense to me. Someone who has lived in an area for a long time, has worked there in long held positions, has family in the area, etc. is unlikely to be a threat. Unlikely, I said, not impossible. If enough other factors point to a person being a threat, they should be investigated even if they and their family have been living in the same town for three generations.
I'm not advocating constant, wholesale observation here. I'm just pointing out that, while the methods and means need to be watched closely, they have not yet (IMHO) reached concerning proportions. The phrase is "eternal vigilence" not "constant paranoia". If and when proposals are made (or prolicies are uncovered) that go beyond what is reasonable, I'll be on the front lines of the fight to defeat them. Until then, I'll just watch and consider. I do think that rational people can disagree on where the line is drawn. Perhaps you and I just draw our line in a different place? I don't know. I'm not willing to trade liberty for security, but I'm not convinced that this is a check on my liberty.
I'm not seeing how CAPPS II is different that what I mentioned. From the second link in the story:
The system is likely to focus on passengers who pay cash, buy one-way tickets or have questionable or conflicting identification documents, criminal records or other information in databases that arouses suspicion, he said. Similar automated background checks are common in the financial industry and commerce, Shay said. Banks, for example, check employment, credit and financial records when marketing loans.
As for the question of whether or not someone is "rooted in the community", again, I don't see the issue; someone new to a community is obviously not going to elicit the same level of trust as somone who has been around for years. So? This is a pre-screening tool. It is to flag folks for further scrutiny. I don't doubt that there is much room for improvement, and I certainly think that a close look needs to be taken at providing a way for folks to correct bad data.
How exactly do you see this as being "quite a different thing" from basic intelligence work?
I don't think it's such a fine line. The difference is, if the end user purchases the movie, the movie's producer has sold the product they intended to sell, and, by doctrine of first sale, the owner of that copy can do what she will with it (within the scope of personal use). The courts have been pretty clear on that point.
As soon as a distributer gets into the picture, the whole deal changes. End users are treated differently than distributers, legally, and I believe that is as it should be.
But what the hell, feeding the f'ing troll beats working.
Never once did I attack the parent poster. Never once did I say (or even imply) "[sic]IF YOUR NOT WITH THE USA, YOU MUST BE AGAINST USA!". I simply said that if he doesn't like the way things work in this country, he is welcome to either go elsewhere, or become a citizen and work to change it.
As for being a "little patriot", yes, I'm little (5'6" or so) and damn right I'm a patriot. You say that like it's a bad thing. OTOH, I'm not a mindless patriot. And my rights are vital to me. I watch what anyone in govt does, regardless of whether I normally agree with them.
Seems to me that offering to edit movies that people have already purchased is beyond reproach. As an owner of a copy of a movie, I should certainly be able to make a "clean" version to watch with my family. If I can do it myself, I should be able to contract another to do it for me.
Rental and sales of already edited movies is another thing entirely. Just as I should not be able to edit The Lord of the Rings, then sell it, and just as I should not be able to change Perl to no longer have regexes and still distribute it as "Perl", I shouldn't be able to edit out the good bits of a movie and distribute the movie. Unless, of course, I got the permission of the copyright holder.
Fair use is good. Further, Cleanflicks could still stay in business, albeit with a change of focus to the editing business. Further, with appropriate automation, they should be able to turn things around nearly as fast as if they just stocked edited movies. I think preserving the distinction between stocking edited movies and actually producing an edited version of the owner's copy is important.
Are you sure you've been reading and posting on/.?
I only ask because your post is one of the more worthwhile I've read; by my user number you can see that I've been here for some time.
Your points are all good ones. You do seem to have missed the attack on the Pentagon and the (heroicly averted) fourth attempt on 9/11. Doesn't change your point, just a nit I had to pick.
So, we agree that racial profiling is pointless. What is your take on non-racial "profiling". Keeping tabs on countries that have been visited, patterns of such visits, any suspicious contacts that have been noticed by govt agents, etc. None of these are "private" information. Anyone with enough desire and resources could get this information by having you tailed by a private investigator. So, assuming keeping and analysing such information might help to narrow the list of folk that human agents need to investigate, why not do so?
Feel free. If this "crappy country" doesn't suit you, don't come back. Or become a citizen and work to change the things you don't like.
Apparently there must be something non-crappy about this "crappy country" if you came here for work in the first place. Naw. It must just suck. I'm sure you came here to work just to help us poor folk out by working here.
Well, we wouldn't want such self sacrifice weighing on our shoulders. Please, feel free to go to Canada instead. We here in this "crappy country" will do our best to get along without you.
Unless you need the absolute fastest performance, in which case you have to go SCSI.
Um... no.
If you want the "absolute fastest performance" you have to go FibreChannel. 2 Gb/s is current FibreChannel tech and 10 Gb/s is on the horizon (with a short stop at 4 Gb/s in between, only likely to be seen in the enclosure). And that's on a transport that supports switched fabrics, so your agregate bandwitch can be enormous, as can reliability. And Fibre Channel typically uses Fiber rather than copper, adding to reliablity (and cost, of course). There's a reason Sun is using Fibre Channel drives in their newer machines!
apparently impossible to swap caps lock and control on an iBook. I use vim as an editor, and make heavy use of control, as well as using Sun boxen alot. If I were in the market for a desktop, it would be a non-issue, as I'd just get a new keyboard, but w/the iBook that is (obviously) not an option.
Bang for the buck is pretty low relative to similarly priced x86 laptops.
The dock is an atrocious monstrosity, though I understand that it can be shrunk, which would help a lot.
The keyboard issue is the main current showstopper, I think.
Well, that and the cost, but you said not to ask for money!
Well, if that is indeed true then I *won't* be switching. At least not until and unless I need and can afford a new desktop. Right now I'm laptop only, and my fingers bloody well expect that control key next to 'A'. For short periods of time I can adjust (e.g. doing an ethernet trace on someone's Windows workstation), but I don't think I could go back to having ctrl so far out of the way. I'm a programmer and I use vim, I use the control key alot.
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In the end, though, you are correct: the only real, effective recourse is to take our business elsewhere. Nothing says "You Suck!" like being put out of business because you pissed off your customers.
1.4.1 had some major breakage (e.g. drag-n-drop was f'ed up pretty good). I just dloaded 1.4.1_01, and haven't yet read the release notes, but if they fixed the things that were obviously borken in 1.4.1, it'll be a damn fine upgrade for those Mac folk stuck back on 1.3.1. Lots of bugs fixed, lots of improvements.
Though I don't use Macs, here's hoping that Apple has a clue and either releases 1.4.1_01 or at least merges the most importent bug fixes back into their 1.4.1 tree (assuming their contract with Sun allows for that).
So then, you have no idea at all what the NRA is really about, do you? They do more than any other group to educate children about gun saftey with their "Eddie Eagle" program. They work hard to make sure that the laws of our country are actually applied, as opposed to simply used as PR for political campaigns. They help to organize and promote a wide array of shooting sports. And, of course, they work their asses off to ensure that we don't lose our right to bear arms.
I think the poster you're replying to has a very interesting and sensable giving program. ACLU to protect most of our Constitutional rights (they read more into the 1st Amendment than I think is warranted and ignore the 2nd, but that's for another rant), NRA to cover the 2nd (in addition to all the other good they do), and the EFF because the "mainstream" groups don't really get how technology changes the challanges to our liberty. Very nice.
What you, dear troll, seem to be saying (in your delightfully ignorant way) is: "I don't like the NRA, so they shouldn't get any special status." Very enlightened of you. Guess what? Millions of people disagree with you. They are off all races and creeds, both men and women, young and old. They span the political spectrum from way off the Right edge to just shy of falling off the left edge. What they have in common is an abiding belief in our basic right to defend ourself and those we love against those who would rob us of our property, or liberty or our life.
He meant that Microsoft was going to hide the evedence in the pudding! His statemement makes much more sense when I look at it that way.
The proof is certainly not in the pudding. That doesn't even make sense, not that incoherancy has stopped Balmer before.
pah! People should occasionally think about what they parrot...
As for gnome 2.0, I ran null for about a week and it seemed ok for me. No panel crashes, anyway. Since I just installed psyche last night, I cannot speak for it with certainty, but it panel was fine during the time I did run it.
I did install 8.0 last night. I was running "null" for the last week or so, and it looks like most of my problems with null were fixed. One hassle is that my laptop doesn't have APM support; like most new laptops it is ACPI only. The kernel RedHat ships isn't ACPI enabled, unforch. Easy enough to fix, of course, but annoying none the less.
My only real outstanding issues are suspend (which swsusp should cover if I can't get Toshiba's ACPI BIOS to cooperate) and scanner support.
Unforch, the latter was a problem in 7.3 as well, and I never did get it working. Worked fine in 7.2, IIRC. Epson Perfection 1200U Photo is the scanner model. I haven't really done any looking into the issue, though, just tried SANE and it couldn't find the scanner.
All in all 8.0 looks pretty nice. The root menu (or the "start menu" that has replaced it $#@%!) is still a fsking mess, with many config tools not there. I do virtually all my config using my favorite config tool though (vi), so that is mostly an issue for interfaces they've changed. Some of the new GUI prefs tools are pretty nice, though, so I may well start using them.
The AI fonts looke nice, though the only fonts available for gnome-terminal (using the std prefs dialog anyway, haven't checked to see if good ole "fixed" is available) look like shite when made small enough to fit two terms side-by-side on my XGA display. Quick install of either the old fonts or rxvt should fix that, though, and the tradeoff is well worth it for most users (nice clear text in slightly larger sizes).
In short, I approve of 8.0. The new compiler tool chain, Python 2.2.1, Mozilla 1.0.1, GTK+/GNOME 2.0, etc. made upgrading an eazy decision for me.
Well, though I have no idea whether they would be more or less common over urban areas, it certainly would make sense that their formation might well be affected by the heat island effect. In addition, the particulates from industry may well have an affect as well. Please note: IANACNAMNDIPEOT.
It would suck, of course, but at no time would I think "God struck her down" or anything like that.
Further, your assumptions are bogus.
shit.
I'm never getting that time back, am I?
Oh, well ... you can't take it with you!
If you had read the article, you would have learned that these climactic changes are common. They have happened many times in the past, and will most likely happen again in the future.
The only thing mentioned about global warming in the article (other than the hype^h^h^h^hheadline) was the assertion (un-supported) that "It is reasonable to assume that greenhouse warming can exacerbate the possibility of precipitating large, abrupt, and regional or global climatic changes."
Hardly a statement that the climate change is "BECAUSE OF" global warming.
So, perhaps you should consider reading the article before calling people "bonhead", eh?
Hmmm .. pray tell me, what GUI toolkit is KDE developed with?
My ass GNOME was "only created to kill KDE". It was created to replace KDE, because KDE had license issues.
As for the trust issue, I'm afraid I'm of the opinon that trust is earned. I agree that "foreigners" would be disproportionally targeted for investigation. So would people who like to move around a lot. So? Makes sense to me. Someone who has lived in an area for a long time, has worked there in long held positions, has family in the area, etc. is unlikely to be a threat. Unlikely, I said, not impossible. If enough other factors point to a person being a threat, they should be investigated even if they and their family have been living in the same town for three generations.
I'm not advocating constant, wholesale observation here. I'm just pointing out that, while the methods and means need to be watched closely, they have not yet (IMHO) reached concerning proportions. The phrase is "eternal vigilence" not "constant paranoia". If and when proposals are made (or prolicies are uncovered) that go beyond what is reasonable, I'll be on the front lines of the fight to defeat them. Until then, I'll just watch and consider. I do think that rational people can disagree on where the line is drawn. Perhaps you and I just draw our line in a different place? I don't know. I'm not willing to trade liberty for security, but I'm not convinced that this is a check on my liberty.
How exactly do you see this as being "quite a different thing" from basic intelligence work?
As soon as a distributer gets into the picture, the whole deal changes. End users are treated differently than distributers, legally, and I believe that is as it should be.
But what the hell, feeding the f'ing troll beats working.
Never once did I attack the parent poster. Never once did I say (or even imply) "[sic]IF YOUR NOT WITH THE USA, YOU MUST BE AGAINST USA!". I simply said that if he doesn't like the way things work in this country, he is welcome to either go elsewhere, or become a citizen and work to change it.
As for being a "little patriot", yes, I'm little (5'6" or so) and damn right I'm a patriot. You say that like it's a bad thing. OTOH, I'm not a mindless patriot. And my rights are vital to me. I watch what anyone in govt does, regardless of whether I normally agree with them.
Rental and sales of already edited movies is another thing entirely. Just as I should not be able to edit The Lord of the Rings, then sell it, and just as I should not be able to change Perl to no longer have regexes and still distribute it as "Perl", I shouldn't be able to edit out the good bits of a movie and distribute the movie. Unless, of course, I got the permission of the copyright holder.
Fair use is good. Further, Cleanflicks could still stay in business, albeit with a change of focus to the editing business. Further, with appropriate automation, they should be able to turn things around nearly as fast as if they just stocked edited movies. I think preserving the distinction between stocking edited movies and actually producing an edited version of the owner's copy is important.
I only ask because your post is one of the more worthwhile I've read; by my user number you can see that I've been here for some time.
Your points are all good ones. You do seem to have missed the attack on the Pentagon and the (heroicly averted) fourth attempt on 9/11. Doesn't change your point, just a nit I had to pick.
So, we agree that racial profiling is pointless. What is your take on non-racial "profiling". Keeping tabs on countries that have been visited, patterns of such visits, any suspicious contacts that have been noticed by govt agents, etc. None of these are "private" information. Anyone with enough desire and resources could get this information by having you tailed by a private investigator. So, assuming keeping and analysing such information might help to narrow the list of folk that human agents need to investigate, why not do so?
Apparently there must be something non-crappy about this "crappy country" if you came here for work in the first place. Naw. It must just suck. I'm sure you came here to work just to help us poor folk out by working here.
Well, we wouldn't want such self sacrifice weighing on our shoulders. Please, feel free to go to Canada instead. We here in this "crappy country" will do our best to get along without you.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
If you want the "absolute fastest performance" you have to go FibreChannel. 2 Gb/s is current FibreChannel tech and 10 Gb/s is on the horizon (with a short stop at 4 Gb/s in between, only likely to be seen in the enclosure). And that's on a transport that supports switched fabrics, so your agregate bandwitch can be enormous, as can reliability. And Fibre Channel typically uses Fiber rather than copper, adding to reliablity (and cost, of course). There's a reason Sun is using Fibre Channel drives in their newer machines!
Well, that and the cost, but you said not to ask for money!
Well, if that is indeed true then I *won't* be switching. At least not until and unless I need and can afford a new desktop. Right now I'm laptop only, and my fingers bloody well expect that control key next to 'A'. For short periods of time I can adjust (e.g. doing an ethernet trace on someone's Windows workstation), but I don't think I could go back to having ctrl so far out of the way. I'm a programmer and I use vim, I use the control key alot.