Every big city has at least a dozen big cineplexes that take in MEGA dollars for the movie industry on weekends. Just get a permit to picket these cineplexes on weekends, walking out in front, carrying around signs about these hamfisted tactics, and if you can make a big enough dent, and get some PR, you can make them back off.
As for the timing of movie boycott weekend, we need a lead time of 1-3 months.
We CAN hurt their revenue, and we can prove that we can hurt them. The revenue for all movies are posted each day on the box office websites. We can start tracking weekend revenue, post those results on our movieboycott.com website, then choose a date for the movie boycott weekend, and start publicizing it.
Start posting all over the internet on boards and forums, with sigs like you have. And then start putting signs up on the freeways.
A big chunk of the movie industry revenue comes from about one dozen or so cineplexes in the largest cities in America.
On movieboycott.com, list the addresses of all these cineplexes. On movieboycott.com, ask people to post signs advertising movie boycott weekend near these cineplexes. Ask them to post on internet forums using the movie boycott weekend sig and link.
Then just before the movie boycott weekend, plan some sort of publicity stunt.
I just talked to SBC. After about 2 hours, I was able to get an answer: they do not log IP addys assigned to individuals. THey only keep subnet information. The SBC guy said that info is associated only with a large group of users (e.g., 100 users) that are assigned dynamic IPs for a particular subnet. He did not say how long they kept the subnet info.
I am not up on networking all that much, so what could RIAA/MPAA tell from that info if anything...
The same people who go to movie cineplexes are the same people who are on the Internet a lot. How about we organize a one-weekend boycott of movies: no going to the cineplex, no rentals, no pay per view for that weekend. Also picket that weekend.
If you can make a big enough dent in their revenue for that weekend, it will make them pay attention
Every big city has at least a dozen big cineplexes that take in MEGA dollars for the movie industry on weekends. Just get a permit to picket these cineplexes on weekends, walking out in front, carrying around signs about these hamfisted tactics, and if you can make a big enough dent, and get some PR, you can make them back off.
picketing of multiplex cinemas could stop this
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Hit the movie industry where it really hurts them--by picketing these big multiple theater cineplexes.... If it costs them money, they will stop it. Every bog city has a couple dozen of these huge cineplexes. They rake in HUGE dollars on the weekend. If you can somehow make a dent in that revenue stream, they will stop this. I think you need a permit to picket in most cities, but it is doable.
yes, I am glad someone is talking about this. THere is no doubt that there is a preponderance of rightwing opinion in the control of Wikipedia. This is no doubt the reason for Wikipedia's relatively high profile in the mass media.
first, paying for something like this is just strange, in my opinion.
But then the whole thing of having 3rd world sweatshops to produce virtual real estate is like something out of a science fiction novel. But I doubt any SF novel has ever dealt with that subject. SF is really not all that original or truly predictive of our real world, in my opinion.
I recommend that we try George W. Bush for treason in a recognized court of law, with a jury of his peers. And do the same for Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al. Do the same for Clinton and Bush, Sr, too. All traitors. Enemies of the people, and friends of the rich and the megacorporations. Try 'em all, and then if found guilty, punish them in the "old school" fashion.
Fascinating that virtually NOWHERE in the mass media (network TV, big cable stations, major radio, elite newspapers) is this kind of discussion taking place (i.e., a discussion about what much of what is offered in the mass media).
I think a lot of people, including myself, have started to see that much of what is superficially seen as Infotainment is really corporate propaganda. And the media is NOT discussing this at all.
why not tax Gates and Buffet et al., on their wealth, and use THAT revenue to recycle PCs?
And let's be honest: they aint gonna use much of any revenue from such a pc recycling tax to actually recycle PCs: they are gonna instead use it for the war machine, or for corporate welfare, or for Congressional pay raises.....
from a chart of the top 50 nations for "Revenues per capita" (meaning how much they have in the budget to spend per citizen: >>>>> 27. United States $6702.42 per person 28. Jersey $6666.22 per person 29. Man, Isle of $6531.01 per person 30. Austria $6472.72 per person 31. Cayman Islands $6324.22 per person 32. Israel $6294.41 per person 33. Qatar $6119.56 per person 34. Singapore $6053.90 per person 35. Guernsey $5882.62 per person 36. British Virgin Islands $5591.34 per person 37. Andorra $5567.60 per person 38. Canada $5545.35 per person
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OK, now I know you are a "free market" conservative, and everything, but I really think that even YOU can see that $6702 is more than $5545. But since you are what you are (hey, I used to be one myself), I am going to put a real fine point on this for you: the taxes in America, all totalled up and everything, are MORE per person that they are in Canada. Period.
Can we please finally start to admit that other primates (apes, and extinct primates, such as Neanderthal, homo erectus, etc) are/were a lot more like us than we care to admit?
Isn't it likely that Australian aborigines are part homo erectus (see here and here and here.
And that Europeans are probably part Neanderthal. And then you have homo florensis....
I wonder why we cannot admit that apes are a lot like us? Maybe because we eat them sometimes? Maybe it is similar to the rationalization people used in the past to justify slavery?
This goes back a LONG way. It has a lot to do with America having been a nation based on exploitation of raw nature, destruction of the natives and mass enslavement of human beings. THen you add on top the mass media and educational which are basically evolved systems, evolved by forces exerted by the rich, the powerful and the corporations and govt. These mass media and educationals systems have been evolved to create a culture of intellectual/ideoliogical submission to authority. Intellectual/ideological submission to hierarchical authority, but not necessarily relating to submission of person and property. The American culture has a deeply engrained motif relating sacrosantness of personal and private private, but a submissive intellectual attitude when it comes to political and policy decisions.
hence, we have Americans thinking "locally" when it comes to politics. Hence, the NIMBy phenomenon. But when it comes to big picture stuff, our educational and mass media systems, evolved by Power, created us to submit.
THe state owns everything under communism. The state pays all salaries. Why would they want to tax anyone if they pay the salaries in the first. You might wanna consider reading something on the subect before making a fool of yourself on Slashdot....
Same trend for those in power everywhere
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From the school principal to the president to the CIA to corporations.
THe Net is returning us to a type of tribal, village society, one where everyone knows everyone else's business. In that kind of society, the powerful have less leverage when it comes to propaganda and knowledge. In that kind of society, they can only rely on force.
As America has become atomized, it has isolated us from the urban, unionized neighborhoods of the Northeast and midwest, and the grange halls of the great plains. Our political information now comes from the mass media, i.e., CorpGovMedia, meaning it is as much disinformation and propaganda as anything else.
But the net does not suffer bullshit or propaganda gladly, and instead skewers it on innumerable web forums (you're soaking in it now!).
Once broadband becomes cheap, look for America to become more like Sweden or Denmark--more united against the rich and powerful....
There is a certain leftist school of thought that holds that the school system was developed especially to churn out factory workers and consumers. And furthermore that the US Govt and corporate lobbies extended this idea to develop citizens that are subservient.
According to this theory, in general all this molding of youth is accomplished by propaganda, basically: Pledge of Allegiance, regimented classrooms, watered down curriculum, portrayal of American system of capitalism is positive, leftist forms of govt are portrayed negatively.
Well, it may sound farfetched to some, but I think this idea is more or less true. THe school system was not set up like this in some smoke filled room, but instead evolved to be like this and accomplish these goals through decades of top-down pressures by powerful interests who act to evolve a school system that operates to reinforce the status quo and to inculcate ideas in children that favor the powerful institutions that already exist in society. In that sense, the propaganda is built into the system.
So, you might wonder whether there are powerful forces acting upon the school systems that favor demonization of the Internet and favor scaring children away from the Internet, for a variety of reasons, principally because the Net is a disuptive force, one that challenges the status quo. In particular, the net offers easy access to historical materials and writing that are both accessible, and that portary America and its histor in a rather unfavorable light. That exposure of those ideas to children could threaten the powerful institutions and people in contol of them.
So, in line with that theory, the entire Internet is tainted in the minds of youth. As the children get older, these ideas in their heads will make it easier to control or cripple the internet through political means.
Also, in current time, associating the Net with pedophilia will make it easier right now to cripple the net or p2p through political means. Once people become parents, they will allow many bad things to be done by their government if it can be made to seem that it is in the name of protecting their children.
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Every big city has at least a dozen big cineplexes that take in MEGA dollars for the movie industry on weekends. Just get a permit to picket these cineplexes on weekends, walking out in front, carrying around signs about these hamfisted tactics, and if you can make a big enough dent, and get some PR, you can make them back off.
As for the timing of movie boycott weekend, we need a lead time of 1-3 months.
We CAN hurt their revenue, and we can prove that we can hurt them. The revenue for all movies are posted each day on the box office websites. We can start tracking weekend revenue, post those results on our movieboycott.com website, then choose a date for the movie boycott weekend, and start publicizing it.
Start posting all over the internet on boards and forums, with sigs like you have. And then start putting signs up on the freeways.
A big chunk of the movie industry revenue comes from about one dozen or so cineplexes in the largest cities in America.
On movieboycott.com, list the addresses of all these cineplexes. On movieboycott.com, ask people to post signs advertising movie boycott weekend near these cineplexes. Ask them to post on internet forums using the movie boycott weekend sig and link.
Then just before the movie boycott weekend, plan some sort of publicity stunt.
I just talked to SBC. After about 2 hours, I was able to get an answer: they do not log IP addys assigned to individuals. THey only keep subnet information. The SBC guy said that info is associated only with a large group of users (e.g., 100 users) that are assigned dynamic IPs for a particular subnet. He did not say how long they kept the subnet info.
I am not up on networking all that much, so what could RIAA/MPAA tell from that info if anything...
The same people who go to movie cineplexes are the same people who are on the Internet a lot. How about we organize a one-weekend boycott of movies: no going to the cineplex, no rentals, no pay per view for that weekend. Also picket that weekend.
If you can make a big enough dent in their revenue for that weekend, it will make them pay attention
Every big city has at least a dozen big cineplexes that take in MEGA dollars for the movie industry on weekends. Just get a permit to picket these cineplexes on weekends, walking out in front, carrying around signs about these hamfisted tactics, and if you can make a big enough dent, and get some PR, you can make them back off.
Hit the movie industry where it really hurts them--by picketing these big multiple theater cineplexes....
If it costs them money, they will stop it. Every bog city has a couple dozen of these huge cineplexes. They rake in HUGE dollars on the weekend. If you can somehow make a dent in that revenue stream, they will stop this.
I think you need a permit to picket in most cities, but it is doable.
Just askin', that's all.....
yes, I am glad someone is talking about this. THere is no doubt that there is a preponderance of rightwing opinion in the control of Wikipedia. This is no doubt the reason for Wikipedia's relatively high profile in the mass media.
Does anyone here actually make a living at this?
How about advertising this sort computer doctor services? Anyone here do that?
I did not mention searching. Searching is not what RIAA can use. Downloads, maybe. Sharing, yes.
Anyway, this whole thread is about downloading. You download from peers, not supernodes.
first, paying for something like this is just strange, in my opinion.
But then the whole thing of having 3rd world sweatshops to produce virtual real estate is like something out of a science fiction novel. But I doubt any SF novel has ever dealt with that subject. SF is really not all that original or truly predictive of our real world, in my opinion.
I recommend that we try George W. Bush for treason in a recognized court of law, with a jury of his peers. And do the same for Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al. Do the same for Clinton and Bush, Sr, too. All traitors. Enemies of the people, and friends of the rich and the megacorporations. Try 'em all, and then if found guilty, punish them in the "old school" fashion.
Just my ever-humble opinion....
Fascinating that virtually NOWHERE in the mass media (network TV, big cable stations, major radio, elite newspapers) is this kind of discussion taking place (i.e., a discussion about what much of what is offered in the mass media).
I think a lot of people, including myself, have started to see that much of what is superficially seen as Infotainment is really corporate propaganda. And the media is NOT discussing this at all.
why not tax Gates and Buffet et al., on their wealth, and use THAT revenue to recycle PCs?
And let's be honest: they aint gonna use much of any revenue from such a pc recycling tax to actually recycle PCs: they are gonna instead use it for the war machine, or for corporate welfare, or for Congressional pay raises.....
from a chart of the top 50 nations for "Revenues per capita" (meaning how much they have in the budget to spend per citizen:
>>>>>
27. United States $6702.42 per person
28. Jersey $6666.22 per person
29. Man, Isle of $6531.01 per person
30. Austria $6472.72 per person
31. Cayman Islands $6324.22 per person
32. Israel $6294.41 per person
33. Qatar $6119.56 per person
34. Singapore $6053.90 per person
35. Guernsey $5882.62 per person
36. British Virgin Islands $5591.34 per person
37. Andorra $5567.60 per person
38. Canada $5545.35 per person
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OK, now I know you are a "free market" conservative, and everything, but I really think that even YOU can see that $6702 is more than $5545. But since you are what you are (hey, I used to be one myself), I am going to put a real fine point on this for you: the taxes in America, all totalled up and everything, are MORE per person that they are in Canada. Period.
are you saying the pix are photoshopped? Or are you just being a media-sheeple?
half the stuff in the news is corporate lobbying disguised as news and infortainment.
BTW, this topic is very important and really should be front page on slashdot.
Can we please finally start to admit that other primates (apes, and extinct primates, such as Neanderthal, homo erectus, etc) are/were a lot more like us than we care to admit?
Isn't it likely that Australian aborigines are part homo erectus (see here
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here.
And that Europeans are probably part Neanderthal. And then you have homo florensis....
I wonder why we cannot admit that apes are a lot like us? Maybe because we eat them sometimes? Maybe it is similar to the rationalization people used in the past to justify slavery?
This goes back a LONG way. It has a lot to do with America having been a nation based on exploitation of raw nature, destruction of the natives and mass enslavement of human beings. THen you add on top the mass media and educational which are basically evolved systems, evolved by forces exerted by the rich, the powerful and the corporations and govt. These mass media and educationals systems have been evolved to create a culture of intellectual/ideoliogical submission to authority. Intellectual/ideological submission to hierarchical authority, but not necessarily relating to submission of person and property. The American culture has a deeply engrained motif relating sacrosantness of personal and private private, but a submissive intellectual attitude when it comes to political and policy decisions.
hence, we have Americans thinking "locally" when it comes to politics. Hence, the NIMBy phenomenon. But when it comes to big picture stuff, our educational and mass media systems, evolved by Power, created us to submit.
According to the Constitution, America is for the people, by the people, and operated for the "general welfare".
We own this country. If you do business here, we take a cut. If you do really well, we take a really big cut. You don't like it? Tough!
billionaires like gates should be subject to wealth taxes and heavy income taxes. We could use the money to pay for healthcare for all Americans.
THe state owns everything under communism. The state pays all salaries. Why would they want to tax anyone if they pay the salaries in the first. You might wanna consider reading something on the subect before making a fool of yourself on Slashdot....
even paper!
From the school principal to the president to the CIA to corporations.
THe Net is returning us to a type of tribal, village society, one where everyone knows everyone else's business. In that kind of society, the powerful have less leverage when it comes to propaganda and knowledge. In that kind of society, they can only rely on force.
As America has become atomized, it has isolated us from the urban, unionized neighborhoods of the Northeast and midwest, and the grange halls of the great plains. Our political information now comes from the mass media, i.e., CorpGovMedia, meaning it is as much disinformation and propaganda as anything else.
But the net does not suffer bullshit or propaganda gladly, and instead skewers it on innumerable web forums (you're soaking in it now!).
Once broadband becomes cheap, look for America to become more like Sweden or Denmark--more united against the rich and powerful....
that link you gave is wackier than Hades....what kind of lawyer has to sell tshirts and stuff on ebay?!
There is a certain leftist school of thought that holds that the school system was developed especially to churn out factory workers and consumers. And furthermore that the US Govt and corporate lobbies extended this idea to develop citizens that are subservient.
According to this theory, in general all this molding of youth is accomplished by propaganda, basically: Pledge of Allegiance, regimented classrooms, watered down curriculum, portrayal of American system of capitalism is positive, leftist forms of govt are portrayed negatively.
Well, it may sound farfetched to some, but I think this idea is more or less true. THe school system was not set up like this in some smoke filled room, but instead evolved to be like this and accomplish these goals through decades of top-down pressures by powerful interests who act to evolve a school system that operates to reinforce the status quo and to inculcate ideas in children that favor the powerful institutions that already exist in society. In that sense, the propaganda is built into the system.
So, you might wonder whether there are powerful forces acting upon the school systems that favor demonization of the Internet and favor scaring children away from the Internet, for a variety of reasons, principally because the Net is a disuptive force, one that challenges the status quo. In particular, the net offers easy access to historical materials and writing that are both accessible, and that portary America and its histor in a rather unfavorable light. That exposure of those ideas to children could threaten the powerful institutions and people in contol of them.
So, in line with that theory, the entire Internet is tainted in the minds of youth. As the children get older, these ideas in their heads will make it easier to control or cripple the internet through political means.
Also, in current time, associating the Net with pedophilia will make it easier right now to cripple the net or p2p through political means. Once people become parents, they will allow many bad things to be done by their government if it can be made to seem that it is in the name of protecting their children.