Personally I think the main problem with this analogy (not that I disagree with your main point mind you) is that if you copy someone else's car, you had to put a ton of effort into it. You had to buy (or steal I suppose) the parts and put them together and paint it and so forth. When you copy a movie all it takes is a little electricity and bandwidth. I think the real difference is that even if you completely copy someone's car, it is still a different car. An engine cannot occupy two places in space and be inside two cars. A digital movie can be duplicated with perfect accuracy and be in a thousand computers, and still be the same exact movie.
Then again, what movie studios get pissed at is that you are copying the IDEA behind the movie, not the movie itself. If they cared only about the bits of data they wouldn't have grounds for lawsuits, since the bits that I torrent are very different from the bits that you see on a DVD (different encoding, different levels of quality, ect). So in a way they are upset that you are copying their idea without putting in the effort. Now let's take that same car story and apply it to movies. Say you see a movie and really like the idea so you hire some actors and get the script and shoot it. Then you give away copies for free to other people. This is perfectly legal (look at the recent Three Musketeers that just came out, there was one that came out probably 4-5 years ago with the same name).
However that's not an exact copy of the movie. I imagine they would be much more upset if you hired the SAME actors and got the SAME script and made the SAME exact movie again. So maybe you're right, maybe it doesn't make any sense. Maybe the problem is that we as a society still see a gap between tangible objects like cars and intangible objects like an AVI file.
Sorry this was so long, I tend to ramble when I'm trying to say something that I haven't quite figured out in my head.
Just playing devil's advocate here: Didn't most copyright law originate in the US? Ergo it's not a completely ridiculous thing to bring up when discussing copyright.
You know that's a good point. A large segment of the population has stated that current copyright laws are not something that they wish to have to follow. And the government did modify them. Sadly they just made them worse....
No I'm not talking about how the people you WANT to get the file, I'm talking about the people who you want to hide it from. I think I may have misunderstood what OP and GGP were talking about.
I just recently upgraded from an LG Vortex to an LG Enlighten. The Enlighten has a slide-out physical keyboard, while the Vortex does not. I used to think that the slide-out keyboards would be too small to use, but now I can't imagine how I went without one. The onscreen keyboards are so slow in comparison (even using swype). I'm guessing you have one of the Android phones that doesn't have the physical keyboard. If so I'd suggest that you look at getting one with the keyboard as your next phone. It doesn't actually add that much to the weight and bulk, and as you say, they are definitely superior to the on-screen keyboards.
Do you really think lawmakers are gonna care? They've been edging in on first amendment rights for years now. Someone will say "It's to stop all those nasty pirates" and someone else will say "it's for the children" and it will be passed.
But then how would they know? You could just say "yes that's a strange looking image. I felt like drawing something abstract involving random dots of color everywhere".
They already have this in the US. I was fiddling around with my Android phone the other day and saw a box in the settings "Presidential level alerts", which I can only assume means a text message. It could not be de-selected. There were also several other levels of alerts. I don't know if iPhones/Blackberries/ect have this but I can only assume that the newer ones do.
I imagine the test (like tests of the public broadcasting system) will start with something like: "This is only a test". Though I bet if you went into a theater and yelled "This is a test! Fire!" people would still panic.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, "
Personally I think this applies to data about one's self but I do not know if the law agrees.
Yeah if you're a dev there I could see needing a more powerful machine. I thought in your first post that you were talking about the actual bank tellers.
People coming in on the H1B visa is not outsourcing. Those people live here, work here, spend money here, and improve the products we buy. That's the point of a visa. Outsourcing is going to other countries and setting up shop there where people will work for cheap. Yes people brought in on an H1B work for cheaper than people educated here, but they still demand a livable wage (and are able to take advantage of min wage laws).
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Personally I think the main problem with this analogy (not that I disagree with your main point mind you) is that if you copy someone else's car, you had to put a ton of effort into it. You had to buy (or steal I suppose) the parts and put them together and paint it and so forth. When you copy a movie all it takes is a little electricity and bandwidth. I think the real difference is that even if you completely copy someone's car, it is still a different car. An engine cannot occupy two places in space and be inside two cars. A digital movie can be duplicated with perfect accuracy and be in a thousand computers, and still be the same exact movie.
Then again, what movie studios get pissed at is that you are copying the IDEA behind the movie, not the movie itself. If they cared only about the bits of data they wouldn't have grounds for lawsuits, since the bits that I torrent are very different from the bits that you see on a DVD (different encoding, different levels of quality, ect). So in a way they are upset that you are copying their idea without putting in the effort. Now let's take that same car story and apply it to movies. Say you see a movie and really like the idea so you hire some actors and get the script and shoot it. Then you give away copies for free to other people. This is perfectly legal (look at the recent Three Musketeers that just came out, there was one that came out probably 4-5 years ago with the same name).
However that's not an exact copy of the movie. I imagine they would be much more upset if you hired the SAME actors and got the SAME script and made the SAME exact movie again. So maybe you're right, maybe it doesn't make any sense. Maybe the problem is that we as a society still see a gap between tangible objects like cars and intangible objects like an AVI file.
Sorry this was so long, I tend to ramble when I'm trying to say something that I haven't quite figured out in my head.
Just playing devil's advocate here: Didn't most copyright law originate in the US? Ergo it's not a completely ridiculous thing to bring up when discussing copyright.
You know that's a good point. A large segment of the population has stated that current copyright laws are not something that they wish to have to follow. And the government did modify them. Sadly they just made them worse....
What purpose do you tea party guys think the government serves if not to protect its citizens?
To oppress it's citizens (not saying I believe this myself, but I imagine a lot of tea party members think so).
Damn, you're all semantic crazy-people.
Welcome to /. ;)
Ok forgive me for being completely ignorant of planetary physics but... if it's experiencing friction shouldn't it slow down eventually?
No I'm not talking about how the people you WANT to get the file, I'm talking about the people who you want to hide it from. I think I may have misunderstood what OP and GGP were talking about.
If the original inventors actually patented their inventions the iPhone wouldn't exist.
More likely Apple would have bought out the original inventors.
I just recently upgraded from an LG Vortex to an LG Enlighten. The Enlighten has a slide-out physical keyboard, while the Vortex does not. I used to think that the slide-out keyboards would be too small to use, but now I can't imagine how I went without one. The onscreen keyboards are so slow in comparison (even using swype). I'm guessing you have one of the Android phones that doesn't have the physical keyboard. If so I'd suggest that you look at getting one with the keyboard as your next phone. It doesn't actually add that much to the weight and bulk, and as you say, they are definitely superior to the on-screen keyboards.
Who decides if the idea is stupid or basic? That was supposed to be the job of the US patent office, once upon a time.
Do you really think lawmakers are gonna care? They've been edging in on first amendment rights for years now. Someone will say "It's to stop all those nasty pirates" and someone else will say "it's for the children" and it will be passed.
But then how would they know? You could just say "yes that's a strange looking image. I felt like drawing something abstract involving random dots of color everywhere".
I imagine Facebook wouldn't go down easy.... Think about all the dirt they probably have on senators.
That's why you listen to both. And anything they agree on you can assume is either the truth or both parties are pushing it...
They already have this in the US. I was fiddling around with my Android phone the other day and saw a box in the settings "Presidential level alerts", which I can only assume means a text message. It could not be de-selected. There were also several other levels of alerts. I don't know if iPhones/Blackberries/ect have this but I can only assume that the newer ones do.
I imagine the test (like tests of the public broadcasting system) will start with something like: "This is only a test". Though I bet if you went into a theater and yelled "This is a test! Fire!" people would still panic.
Cats can be trained, but it's very very difficult As with every other trainable animal, positive reinforcement is always better than negative.
Well you could still put garbage for that, as long as you remembered what it was for entering later.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, "
Personally I think this applies to data about one's self but I do not know if the law agrees.
And then you turn around and charge them consulting fees when it breaks or doesn't work how they expected.
Wouldn't that report on the 32 bit memory though? (just guessing based on the 86)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_xp
XP 64 bit can handle 128 GB (somewhat of a surprise to me, when I looked it up I actually thought the same as you).
Yeah if you're a dev there I could see needing a more powerful machine. I thought in your first post that you were talking about the actual bank tellers.
What do you mean might explode? :P
People coming in on the H1B visa is not outsourcing. Those people live here, work here, spend money here, and improve the products we buy. That's the point of a visa. Outsourcing is going to other countries and setting up shop there where people will work for cheap. Yes people brought in on an H1B work for cheaper than people educated here, but they still demand a livable wage (and are able to take advantage of min wage laws).