And I am the reverse. I haven't used Windows for work in about seven years now... I use KDE on Linux on a day to day basis. When I bought my current laptop, I booted into XP and couldn't even figure out how to drag windows around using the trackpad (some sort of odd "sticky" drag that seemed to be based on a delay). Every app seemed to have a different, nonintuitive interface. Annoying as hell.
My SO is a scientist. She uses million dollar machines all day, collects data on a *nix box, puts it onto a USB key and processes it with her Powerbook running OSX. She doesn't use Windows either. I don't think she's ever owned a Windows machine.
Now, we'll cross the two. She wanted season five of Angel on her system. I had no idea how to use her system, and finally just opened a command line to scp the files over to her ~/Desktop. She has no idea how to use my system, but I can open a Konqueror window for her to check her email.
But when either of us want to get WORK done, we use... our own system.
Why is it a revelation (like you make it out to be) that you go to the system you're most comfortable with to get work done?
It's pretty easy to relearn. I have Copy set to Shift-Del and Paste to Shift-Ins (they are next to the spacebar on my laptop). That leaves control C available for break in terminal windows. I also have Shift left and right move between tabs and control left and right move between screen sessions. Alt-Tab is still switch apps, but that's because I'm used to it and there's no easy extra modifier to alter the left and right for app switching (plus it jibes with Alt-Tab for apps and Control-Tab for desktops).
in some weird alternate reality where that kind of thing could help promote your product.
That reality is generally referred to as "the 80's". The original Mtv, Reganomics, the Bangles and Max Headroom all make those pictures look rather staid. Besides, that was when PCs were the new, hip thing, bringing down the big companies because even the smallest business could afford what, a decade ago, took millions of dollars to buy and a team of engineers to keep running.
I've had my bio spruced up at various times by the company I work for, crossing the line way past what I would consider to be what I have done, including a degree from a more prestigious university (I had attended it for a while, but did not graduate there). I've seen such fluffing of bios in print, on the web, and mentioned during C-exec meetings... all by people other than the person whose bio was being boosted.
For that matter, my SO's mother had been credited with raising several guide dogs on a website and in marketing materials. They had been raised by my SO, who was rather miffed at the appropriation of the activity. It took a full blown row between the marketing person and mother to get the incorrect info out of materials, as the marketing person insisted that it was a "perfect human touch" to the bio -- even if it wasn't true.
Why would I use Samba? I don't have a single Windows machine, nor do any of my roommates.
When building your own, you're looking at unique specs. If you were buying something for a corporate environment I would highly recommend getting something with Samba, even if you don't use any Windows at the moment (for when the marketing consultant with a laptop needs to upload the large video file or whatever).
But for home use? "Look at your needs" is better than "here's the best".
Heh. I have an iPaq... it was what I used to "replace" my Palm IIIc. I used it for a month, carried both for a month, and then went back to the Palm. I even tried Linux on the iPaq.
In my case, it was DateBk5 and the screen. That plus the "instant app jumping" feel of Palm. To a certain extent, Palm is the CLI of handheld interfaces - less sexy and a bit more terse, but in the hands of a skilled user, it can do the things you really need really well. If I need a laptop, I'll pull mine out. Short of that, I need something I can use for 5 second moments throughout the day. Palm excels at those really really short bursts of looking up or adding tiny bits of info.
Remember how I said that, until recently I was using a Palm IIIc? I've yet to program for a recent Palm device, although I'm planning on getting the Treo 650 when TMobile releases it. I have, however, read through the documentation for 5.x and programmed for 3.5, so I think I can answer:
To 5.x+ with external memory? Yes. Not coincidently, you'll note that there are many ported and/or recent apps that have that same pair of requirements. External memory is a must to do fopen() or read() style file access. Internal memory appears to still be database records rather than any sort of file.
Note the first disclaimer, however. Palm dev on Linux with POSE/gcc is pretty simple for 3.5... I'd imagine that 5.x is similar, although I think the 5.x emulator is only available for Windows(?). Ask me in a month or two when I have my Treo.
Yup. Until very very recently I was using a Palm IIIc (an *excellent* screen for eBook reading; blocky but crisp is surprisingly good). The API isn't so much limited as different, completely oriented toward a different method of computing. For traditional applications, it is neigh impossible, which makes porting nearly impossible without a major rewrite.
5.x+ paired with external memory gives you a much more traditional environment (assuming you're used to the Unix/DOS/Windows heritage, which accounts for... well, almost everybody now).
To be fair, the last update was four years ago, and the Palm API has advanced considerably since then (especially in ways that make it easier to port POSIX style programs to the very different PalmOS).
If you're interested in Moria, Larn and Rogue on Palm, you do have other options.
You're a tougher man than I. They lost me in the first.
The abominable way they handled the Vulcans,
Fixed. T'Pol's "disease" is gone, and the Vulcans have rediscovered Kohlinar. The council is gone, replaced by what will eventually turn into the 'modern' Vulcan. The Forge was portrayed as it has been presented in the books.
the ludicrous Temporal crapola,
They slammed that to the side and got the *hell* rid of it at the beginning of the season. The new writers seem to despise the "Temporal war".
even bringing in the %#$^! Borg (like that card wasn't overplayed with Voyageer).
Totally gone. Zero Next Gen and beyond aliens. We do have the Orions (complete with the slave trade), a growing Klingon breakdown (to lead to the Klingon war?) and they carry the Vulcans and Andorians. In the Orion slave camps, you could also spot Tellarites in the background. Cutesy "a special episode" stuff is gone - story arcs are three episodes, and take place in pre-TOS time and conclude at the end.
Bad scripts, crappy actors, totally blowing the enormous possibilities of a pre-TOS series, it deserves cancellation.
And this season, they have seriously overhauled the show. I wouldn't watch the first seasons on DVD if they were a gift. This season, I'll happily buy. It's now the asskicking, green alien chicks and Vulcan alien mysticism of TOS with better effects, not the inbred self-referential repetitive crap of the beginning of the series.
I like the Who-ish three episode story arcs. I also really really like the fact that they are delving into the core mythologies of Trek, ones that only the books have gone into.
I've preferred the books to the television for a long time now, especially the classic series books, which have built up a strong background unto themselves.
Somebody finds a half finished, unreleased bit of software, warez'es it, and then the people who run it complain that it's a half finished, not ready for release bit of software.
They got rid of the temporal war and started working towards the war with the Klingons. They brought in the classic trek aliens, green Orion slave girls and Katra spheres.
And I'll say it again: they got rid of the temporal war.
It's a damn shame. This season was easily the best Trek since DS9, and possibly one of the best Trek seasons of any of the series.
I believe the point of the person that you are replying to is that, at one time, speaking out about the right of women to vote was politically incorrect. If everybody had taken your advice and 'kept their mouths shut', we would have a very different society.
Politically incorrect statements are the fringes of thought. Some, over the course of years, will become accepted as the "right and moral" form of thought. Discouraging people from speaking their mind discourages social progress and reform.
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Nope. "Connections" in German is "Anschlüsse".
This contrasts with "console", which is "konsole", and all the other names of apps in KDE that people think are "cute spellings" because they don't realize that other countries have developers.
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Mandrake uses KDE as their default desktop, and Fedora Core is not commercial (which was the focus of the grandparent comment - *commercial* activities by the desktops).
In fact, Mandrake started out as a clone of Red Hat with KDE instead of Gnome. It's come a long way since.
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Soooo where is the KDE team in all of this?
With Novell (who also owns Ximian) via SUSE and other large companies like IBM. The default desktop for *all* of the commercially successful desktop distros (commercially successful, since you're talking about commercial alliances). Connected to state contracts with national governments like Germany's Kolab project.
KDE does have plenty of connections, as does Gnome. I'd hardly say that either is ignoring that aspect of their projects. Both have excellent people working toward commercial advocacy.
Meh - part of the reason it was written was to have as many inside references as could be stuffed in it. Almost every character is a sly reference to a scientist or science fiction author or fan. Most of the dialogue is lifted from common debates at conventions. Think of it as a Platonic debate crossed with a Harvard Lampoon article, spoofing a very specific niche.
It sold quite well before it was put up (and placed on CD-ROMs in the back of several of Baen's books), and sales went up after it was make available for free.
So, who else read this and immediately considered the fact that this is the basic plot of Fallen Angels by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle & Michael Flynn? Pollution is actually holding the climate in a more "human friendly" mode, and the Earth enters a minimum - basically a short ice age - which all the eco-nuts thinks is a good thing, since it's "natural"... despite glaciers grinding away at major cities.
Incidently, that link goes directly to the first chapter - it is one of Baen's first experiments with putting books still in print online.
You assume the servers are plugged in. In, for instance, the TiVo and iTunes case, they are both operating off of WiFi. The TiVo pulls from WiFi, one of the iTunes databases is on a BSD box, but others are on Apple laptops... all on WiFi.
So, such a setup is useless.
That said, isn't your traffic still going through the neighbor's LAN if even one half is on WiFi?
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My SO is a scientist. She uses million dollar machines all day, collects data on a *nix box, puts it onto a USB key and processes it with her Powerbook running OSX. She doesn't use Windows either. I don't think she's ever owned a Windows machine.
Now, we'll cross the two. She wanted season five of Angel on her system. I had no idea how to use her system, and finally just opened a command line to scp the files over to her ~/Desktop. She has no idea how to use my system, but I can open a Konqueror window for her to check her email.
But when either of us want to get WORK done, we use... our own system.
Why is it a revelation (like you make it out to be) that you go to the system you're most comfortable with to get work done?
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That reality is generally referred to as "the 80's". The original Mtv, Reganomics, the Bangles and Max Headroom all make those pictures look rather staid. Besides, that was when PCs were the new, hip thing, bringing down the big companies because even the smallest business could afford what, a decade ago, took millions of dollars to buy and a team of engineers to keep running.
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For that matter, my SO's mother had been credited with raising several guide dogs on a website and in marketing materials. They had been raised by my SO, who was rather miffed at the appropriation of the activity. It took a full blown row between the marketing person and mother to get the incorrect info out of materials, as the marketing person insisted that it was a "perfect human touch" to the bio -- even if it wasn't true.
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When building your own, you're looking at unique specs. If you were buying something for a corporate environment I would highly recommend getting something with Samba, even if you don't use any Windows at the moment (for when the marketing consultant with a laptop needs to upload the large video file or whatever).
But for home use? "Look at your needs" is better than "here's the best".
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Evan
In my case, it was DateBk5 and the screen. That plus the "instant app jumping" feel of Palm. To a certain extent, Palm is the CLI of handheld interfaces - less sexy and a bit more terse, but in the hands of a skilled user, it can do the things you really need really well. If I need a laptop, I'll pull mine out. Short of that, I need something I can use for 5 second moments throughout the day. Palm excels at those really really short bursts of looking up or adding tiny bits of info.
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Evan
To 5.x+ with external memory? Yes. Not coincidently, you'll note that there are many ported and/or recent apps that have that same pair of requirements. External memory is a must to do fopen() or read() style file access. Internal memory appears to still be database records rather than any sort of file.
Note the first disclaimer, however. Palm dev on Linux with POSE/gcc is pretty simple for 3.5... I'd imagine that 5.x is similar, although I think the 5.x emulator is only available for Windows(?). Ask me in a month or two when I have my Treo.
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5.x+ paired with external memory gives you a much more traditional environment (assuming you're used to the Unix/DOS/Windows heritage, which accounts for... well, almost everybody now).
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If you're interested in Moria, Larn and Rogue on Palm, you do have other options.
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You're a tougher man than I. They lost me in the first.
The abominable way they handled the Vulcans,
Fixed. T'Pol's "disease" is gone, and the Vulcans have rediscovered Kohlinar. The council is gone, replaced by what will eventually turn into the 'modern' Vulcan. The Forge was portrayed as it has been presented in the books.
the ludicrous Temporal crapola,
They slammed that to the side and got the *hell* rid of it at the beginning of the season. The new writers seem to despise the "Temporal war".
even bringing in the %#$^! Borg (like that card wasn't overplayed with Voyageer).
Totally gone. Zero Next Gen and beyond aliens. We do have the Orions (complete with the slave trade), a growing Klingon breakdown (to lead to the Klingon war?) and they carry the Vulcans and Andorians. In the Orion slave camps, you could also spot Tellarites in the background. Cutesy "a special episode" stuff is gone - story arcs are three episodes, and take place in pre-TOS time and conclude at the end.
Bad scripts, crappy actors, totally blowing the enormous possibilities of a pre-TOS series, it deserves cancellation.
And this season, they have seriously overhauled the show. I wouldn't watch the first seasons on DVD if they were a gift. This season, I'll happily buy. It's now the asskicking, green alien chicks and Vulcan alien mysticism of TOS with better effects, not the inbred self-referential repetitive crap of the beginning of the series.
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I've preferred the books to the television for a long time now, especially the classic series books, which have built up a strong background unto themselves.
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Somebody finds a half finished, unreleased bit of software, warez'es it, and then the people who run it complain that it's a half finished, not ready for release bit of software.
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Evan
They got rid of the temporal war and started working towards the war with the Klingons. They brought in the classic trek aliens, green Orion slave girls and Katra spheres.
And I'll say it again: they got rid of the temporal war.
It's a damn shame. This season was easily the best Trek since DS9, and possibly one of the best Trek seasons of any of the series.
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Evan
Politically incorrect statements are the fringes of thought. Some, over the course of years, will become accepted as the "right and moral" form of thought. Discouraging people from speaking their mind discourages social progress and reform.
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Evan
This contrasts with "console", which is "konsole", and all the other names of apps in KDE that people think are "cute spellings" because they don't realize that other countries have developers.
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Evan
In fact, Mandrake started out as a clone of Red Hat with KDE instead of Gnome. It's come a long way since.
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With Novell (who also owns Ximian) via SUSE and other large companies like IBM. The default desktop for *all* of the commercially successful desktop distros (commercially successful, since you're talking about commercial alliances). Connected to state contracts with national governments like Germany's Kolab project.
KDE does have plenty of connections, as does Gnome. I'd hardly say that either is ignoring that aspect of their projects. Both have excellent people working toward commercial advocacy.
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It sold quite well before it was put up (and placed on CD-ROMs in the back of several of Baen's books), and sales went up after it was make available for free.
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Incidently, that link goes directly to the first chapter - it is one of Baen's first experiments with putting books still in print online.
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Evan
Beyond that, there's apparently a very popular song of the same title on the top of the charts... in Germany.
Why is it that people can't understand that many of the 'k's in KDE apps and codenames are because many of the developers are in Germany.
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So, such a setup is useless.
That said, isn't your traffic still going through the neighbor's LAN if even one half is on WiFi?
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