Something's really, really, horribly, totally fucked up with the mindset out there. My comment was modded down to -1, "Troll." "Troll?" "Troll?" "Troll?" -1, Troll????????????
You reckon the Catholic Church modded Copernicus and Galilleo down to -1, Troll, too?
I've never seen such knee-jerky stuff. Such angriness, such closed minds!
Look back at my original post and see if you think the mods are in any way commenserate, and then think about whether or not a "philosophy" has been formed!
The fact that you made the statement that I said Evolution lacked merit means you really don't understand at all my point. Hah, hah, hah, your knee jerked!
I didn't say it lacked scientific merit, or that the observations of Evolution would be proved wrong. I AM saying that a to philosophy or world-view implied by the Evolution as it is currently understood is highly likely seen to be foolish in a few hundred years, just as people who believe in Determinism based on Newtonian physics were wrong.
Newtonian Physics is not wrong. Determinism IS wrong.
And none of this means that it's a sure thing that the "philosophy inspired by belief in Evolution" won't be seen to be exactly the total truth.
I'm just saying, that based on past evidence, one should be highly skeptical of world-views based on theories, because *every* *single* *theory* mankind has posited here-to-date has been "refined" and the underlying worldview has been turned upside down.
Something's going to come along which is as "ridiculous" as string theory and charmed quarks would have seemed in the 1700s.
So, be careful of believing "science has told me there is no God." The science isn't wrong, but the philosophy is. Just the same way "science used to tell me that I can predict the entire state of the universe given a known initial condition amd the 3 basic laws."
But my point is pure newtonian physics led to certain philosophical beliefs which were Dead wrong -- a belief in Determinism. The beliefs in pure aristotelan physics before that led to certain philosophical beliefs which were Dead wrong.
Similarly............. &c.
I'm not the observations of Evolution is wrong, I'm just saying it's highly likely that any philosophy or world-view a particular science-technique appears to imply at this point in time (with Evolution, a philosophy of No God, No Plan) is HIGHLY likely to be.... Dead wrong.
Yeah, but an implication of Newtonian physics as it was understood at the time was that knowing the state of a system implied perfect knowledge of all future states. It once seemed perfectly obvious and natural. But it was wrong! In fact, the opposite is true!
Similarly, the things which evolution appears to imply could be mis-conclusions.
I don't know why you're marking the guy funny. If you parse his statement you'll see it amplifies my point.
"Atoms behave like billiard balls." is the statement which was once thought to be true. So atoms not being billiard balls is the suprising thing. Fish not being landmines is the "obvious" thing. The surprising thing would be if Fish were indeed landmines.
His statement should have been:
If Fish are landmines, how can you be sure we're really elk?
Parsing his statement out merely reinforces my point!
Yeah but I would think you would look at the fundamental flaws in Newtonian physics as very, very instructive about how not to put too much faith in Evolution. People used to use Newtonian physics to justify determinism, all on perfectly sound (at the time) basis.
If atoms aren't billard balls, how can you be sure we're monkeys? But, more to the point, should you be really drawing any conclusions?
The analogy of "atoms are billiard balls" -> "determinism":: "humans are monkeys" -> "there is no plan for the universe"
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How do you know they aren't lying? Maybe they're steering your where they want you to go.
How would you know?
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How do you know that was the best way to solve the problem?
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Sure, you type in some stuff, and get something that LOOKS highly relevant. How do you know?
Is there any device which will play DVD's ripped to hard drive back over the TV? I don't want to use a computer connected to the TV: dedicated hardware is usually better.
I don't know about you, but most projects I work on involve a database. A bit more complicated than my first app, but that's why they call it "career path."
Foam at the mouth and fall over backwards. Is he foaming at the mouth to fall over backwards or falling over backwards to foam at the mouth. Tonight 'Spectrum' examines the whole question of frothing and falling, coughing and calling, screaming and bawling, walling and stalling, galling and mauling, palling and hauling, trawling and squalling and zalling. Zalling? Is there a word zalling? If there is what does it mean...if there isn't what does it mean? Perhaps both. Maybe neither. What do I mean by the word mean? What do I mean by the word word, what do I mean by what do I mean, what do I mean by do, and what do I do by mean? What do I do by do by do and what do I do by wasting your time like this? Goodnight
BIG changes in the kernel between W2K and XP, and further big changes between XP and Server 2003.
They tweak it continuously.
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Microsoft made BIG changes to the kernel between Win2K and WinXP, and further big changes between WinXP and Server2003.
Introduction of the Low Fragmentation Heap is one, tuning of a parameter relating to User Desktop Heap Limit allowing more processes (still pitifully low compared to Unix) to be launched.
And I don't even mean from a purely "companies are evil" perspective. Apple keeps you in just as much a jail as does Microsoft. Ignorant users are still ignorant users.
Linux/Unix people are going to use the shell features of OSX. Non-Linux people aren't.
I personally use fluxbox, but I have all the eyecandy I care too -- when I want it. I'd rather have the screen repaint faster.
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Something's really, really, horribly, totally fucked up with the mindset out there. My comment was modded down to -1, "Troll." "Troll?" "Troll?" "Troll?" -1, Troll????????????
You reckon the Catholic Church modded Copernicus and Galilleo down to -1, Troll, too?
I've never seen such knee-jerky stuff. Such angriness, such closed minds!
Look back at my original post and see if you think the mods are in any way commenserate, and then think about whether or not a "philosophy" has been formed!
The fact that you made the statement that I said Evolution lacked merit means you really don't understand at all my point. Hah, hah, hah, your knee jerked!
I didn't say it lacked scientific merit, or that the observations of Evolution would be proved wrong. I AM saying that a to philosophy or world-view implied by the Evolution as it is currently understood is highly likely seen to be foolish in a few hundred years, just as people who believe in Determinism based on Newtonian physics were wrong.
Newtonian Physics is not wrong.
Determinism IS wrong.
And none of this means that it's a sure thing that the "philosophy inspired by belief in Evolution" won't be seen to be exactly the total truth.
I'm just saying, that based on past evidence, one should be highly skeptical of world-views based on theories, because *every* *single* *theory* mankind has posited here-to-date has been "refined" and the underlying worldview has been turned upside down.
Something's going to come along which is as "ridiculous" as string theory and charmed quarks would have seemed in the 1700s.
So, be careful of believing "science has told me there is no God." The science isn't wrong, but the philosophy is. Just the same way "science used to tell me that I can predict the entire state of the universe given a known initial condition amd the 3 basic laws."
But my point is pure newtonian physics led to certain philosophical beliefs which were Dead wrong -- a belief in Determinism. The beliefs in pure aristotelan physics before that led to certain philosophical beliefs which were Dead wrong.
.... Dead wrong.
Similarly............. &c.
I'm not the observations of Evolution is wrong, I'm just saying it's highly likely that any philosophy or world-view a particular science-technique appears to imply at this point in time (with Evolution, a philosophy of No God, No Plan) is HIGHLY likely to be
Just wait a thousand years.
Yeah, but an implication of Newtonian physics as it was understood at the time was that knowing the state of a system implied perfect knowledge of all future states. It once seemed perfectly obvious and natural. But it was wrong! In fact, the opposite is true!
Similarly, the things which evolution appears to imply could be mis-conclusions.
Face it, there's a new orthodoxy.
Troll? WTF?
I don't know why you're marking the guy funny. If you parse his statement you'll see it amplifies my point.
"Atoms behave like billiard balls." is the statement which was once thought to be true. So atoms not being billiard balls is the suprising thing. Fish not being landmines is the "obvious" thing. The surprising thing would be if Fish were indeed landmines.
His statement should have been:
If Fish are landmines, how can you be sure we're really elk?
Parsing his statement out merely reinforces my point!
So you're asserting Evolution is more certain that Newtonian physics?
Yeah but I would think you would look at the fundamental flaws in Newtonian physics as very, very instructive about how not to put too much faith in Evolution. People used to use Newtonian physics to justify determinism, all on perfectly sound (at the time) basis.
:: "humans are monkeys" -> "there is no plan for the universe"
If atoms aren't billard balls, how can you be sure we're monkeys? But, more to the point, should you be really drawing any conclusions?
The analogy of "atoms are billiard balls" -> "determinism"
How do you know they aren't lying? Maybe they're steering your where they want you to go.
How would you know?
How do you know that was the best way to solve the problem?
Sure, you type in some stuff, and get something that LOOKS highly relevant. How do you know?
First we get a story about Graying Mainframe maintainers, now a Venture Capital story?
What's next, Slashdot announcing a VA Linux IPO?
Is there any device which will play DVD's ripped to hard drive back over the TV? I don't want to use a computer connected to the TV: dedicated hardware is usually better.
First job.
I don't know about you, but most projects I work on involve a database. A bit more complicated than my first app, but that's why they call it "career path."
I got a B.S. in mathematics with a speciality in Numerical Analysis. My first job was writing database applications. Learned C later.
I can't write device drivers, but it's not a bad career route.
I think more people should just take pure maths with an applied bent.
Funny you should mention that:
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I like the Bitstream Vera fonts better.
You have it misconfigured.
BIG changes in the kernel between W2K and XP, and further big changes between XP and Server 2003.
They tweak it continuously.
Microsoft made BIG changes to the kernel between Win2K and WinXP, and further big changes between WinXP and Server2003.
Introduction of the Low Fragmentation Heap is one, tuning of a parameter relating to User Desktop Heap Limit allowing more processes (still pitifully low compared to Unix) to be launched.
They tweak the kernel all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gustav. And you can install Cygwin on Windows too.
That doesn't get you out of jail.
I've seen "hard-core tech Mac users" who aren't Linux users. They're just as stupid as Windows users.
Mac Userswho aren't otherwise techy are NOT techy. They're eurofag blue stater morons.
And I don't even mean from a purely "companies are evil" perspective. Apple keeps you in just as much a jail as does Microsoft. Ignorant users are still ignorant users.
Linux/Unix people are going to use the shell features of OSX. Non-Linux people aren't.
I personally use fluxbox, but I have all the eyecandy I care too -- when I want it. I'd rather have the screen repaint faster.
They're just going to ruin V For Vendetta. I'll eat my hat if the Lesbian Valerie's story is told.