The consensus seems to be that the old Netscape code base was really bad. Well, it might have been bad, but, you know what? It worked pretty darn well on an awful lot of real world computer systems.
Yes indeed, Netscape 4.x is really bad. Which must explain why I'm stil using it! (When I forget to run Moz, which is nicer.)
yes, this feature is desperately needed. but it's the sort of thing that apple could add in a firmware upgrade (like they added EQ per customer input). i can wait for that.
Yes, I know this is heresy on the internet even now, but you need money, and I have money, so maybe we can make a deal. (and yes, I know this is slashdot and not yahoo, but perhaps a yahoo or other provider employee will read it.)
Here is what I have with Yahoo:
A Yahoo Mail account
Several Yahoo Groups that I administer
A "My Yahoo" page with various crap
I would be willing to pay:
$5/month for each Group I administer to make it 100% ad-free
$5/month for my Yahoo Mail account to make it 100% ad-free
Some reasonable, flat monthly rate amount to make all my yahoo browsing and usage 100% spam and ad-free
some modicum of service standards (notably on groups, which is quite unreliable at present)
certified, and not by TrustE, "we will never spam you ever" privacy
I have my credit card right here, yahoo. I bet many other users would pay for no ads. Get with the program!
It shocks me that journalists take Trust(M)E seriously. From the NYT article:
Truste, a nonprofit group financed by Internet companies that creates standards for privacy policies, agreed to
endorse Yahoo's move after an extended discussion with the company. "I would not call what Yahoo did
`best practices,' " said Fran Maier, the group's executive director. "To the extent possible, you would like
companies to honor the preferences that were previously set by the users. But on the other hand, we don't
want to tell companies they can't do something when their business strategy changes. We have to balance
those things."
So basically Maier admitted: they do nothing. Fine. Then they should get no news coverage, and not be used as a smokescreen by these fuckers.
Interesting, though, that the details are listed as "TBD" in all three of these categories. Hardware vendors who attend WinHEC may wish to object to this sort of thing.
And if Hilary Rosen spent a little bit of the millions of dollars she spends on lawyers buying me beer, it would make me happy, too! Makes just about as much sense as her moronic comment.
Hmmm, the Million Man March was just a few years ago (1995), and it was followed by the massive Promise Keepers rally. So big marches can happen - they may or may not be very effective, but with sufficient organization they can be pulled off.
That would probably require a constitutional amendment. I suspect that otherwise it would go against Buckley v. Valeo that found that campaign contributions are speech. Being or not being a registered voter does not affect your first amendment rights.
When I first saw the headline, I thought this was about the guild complaining about bad practices by Amazon - one-click patent, privacy, etc. But no - they are complaining that Amazon tries to save customers money when customers are faced with wildly inflated book prices (e.g. $25-30 for a hardcover).
You know what, authors/publishers? Stop charging so freakin' much! Then people won't exercise their right to buy a resold book. Until then I will ignore this request entirely (not as if it matters in any way as I am not a major website that links to book listings).
I agree. 0.99 is the first version of mozilla I have found to be remotely usable (mac os 9) - previous ones had crashed HARD - and now I am a convert. well done moz team!
Calling it "GeekPAC" would get tons of donations and rally the troops. Design a good logo, sell hats, use it to turn out people, the whole thing. Don't be ashamed of the geek name.
Re:fracturing effort?
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Digitalconsumer got my attention because they had something the others didn't: an auto-fax tool to send messages to elected officials, and a well-designed website. geekpac is not there yet, but might get there. I would STRONGLY encourage the organizers to at least see where their effort is complementary with digitalconsumer - even if it's a separate org, the two together (or three, with EFF) can be more effective.
But the geekpac people have one thing very wrong. IRS section 501(c)4 is for organizations that explicitly lobby. (I know this because I am chair of an organization that is planning to incorporate under this section.) While the organization is non-profit, contributions to it are NOT tax deductible. The founders need to correct this in their doc if they want to be taken seriously by lobby/activists.
Look, SOMEONE needs to be really aggressive about this stuff. I don't think EFF is the answer - they are just not in-your-face enough. digitalconsumer is better on the specific issue of S.2048. Maybe geekpac will be the answer, but they need to be much, much more aggressive in their message.
now there is a rule I will ignore with impunity. No PDAs? What are they smoking?! The no-cellphone rule is stupid enough... this is just utterly moronic.
(And don't give me that post-9/11 bend-over-and-take-it attitude. I still don't need to be subject to arbitrary, capricious rules created solely for the convenience of flight attendants.)
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I love how the publicly available complaint has a complete list of what they want to "block". Oops!
The consensus seems to be that the old Netscape code base was really bad. Well, it might have been bad, but, you know what? It worked pretty darn well on an awful lot of real world computer systems.
Yes indeed, Netscape 4.x is really bad. Which must explain why I'm stil using it! (When I forget to run Moz, which is nicer.)
Note that this is for the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in Carlsbad, NM, which is already in use. (You can take a tour!)
yes, this feature is desperately needed. but it's the sort of thing that apple could add in a firmware upgrade (like they added EQ per customer input). i can wait for that.
Size matters!
OMG, you killed cockeyed! YOU BASTARDS!
Yes, I know this is heresy on the internet even now, but you need money, and I have money, so maybe we can make a deal. (and yes, I know this is slashdot and not yahoo, but perhaps a yahoo or other provider employee will read it.)
Here is what I have with Yahoo:
A Yahoo Mail account
Several Yahoo Groups that I administer
A "My Yahoo" page with various crap
I would be willing to pay:
$5/month for each Group I administer to make it 100% ad-free
$5/month for my Yahoo Mail account to make it 100% ad-free
Some reasonable, flat monthly rate amount to make all my yahoo browsing and usage 100% spam and ad-free
some modicum of service standards (notably on groups, which is quite unreliable at present)
certified, and not by TrustE, "we will never spam you ever" privacy
I have my credit card right here, yahoo. I bet many other users would pay for no ads. Get with the program!
Truste, a nonprofit group financed by Internet companies that creates standards for privacy policies, agreed to endorse Yahoo's move after an extended discussion with the company. "I would not call what Yahoo did `best practices,' " said Fran Maier, the group's executive director. "To the extent possible, you would like companies to honor the preferences that were previously set by the users. But on the other hand, we don't want to tell companies they can't do something when their business strategy changes. We have to balance those things."
So basically Maier admitted: they do nothing. Fine. Then they should get no news coverage, and not be used as a smokescreen by these fuckers.
PROFIT !!!
But what do I care? i use a Mac.
too bad you can't get BBEdit for windows. I would love that.
Escarole
And if Hilary Rosen spent a little bit of the millions of dollars she spends on lawyers buying me beer, it would make me happy, too! Makes just about as much sense as her moronic comment.
No, in this case CNN are a bunch of morons. This article was 100% unmitigated crap.
Hmmm, the Million Man March was just a few years ago (1995), and it was followed by the massive Promise Keepers rally. So big marches can happen - they may or may not be very effective, but with sufficient organization they can be pulled off.
that is brilliant. hoax or not. i particularly love his attempt at a url. mod up.
That would probably require a constitutional amendment. I suspect that otherwise it would go against Buckley v. Valeo that found that campaign contributions are speech. Being or not being a registered voter does not affect your first amendment rights.
Who will run against him (and be able to win!) on a platform of freedom? This could be a job for the GeekPAC mentioned a day or so ago.
You know what, authors/publishers? Stop charging so freakin' much! Then people won't exercise their right to buy a resold book. Until then I will ignore this request entirely (not as if it matters in any way as I am not a major website that links to book listings).
I agree. 0.99 is the first version of mozilla I have found to be remotely usable (mac os 9) - previous ones had crashed HARD - and now I am a convert. well done moz team!
You're not in the SBC territory, are you?
Calling it "GeekPAC" would get tons of donations and rally the troops. Design a good logo, sell hats, use it to turn out people, the whole thing. Don't be ashamed of the geek name.
But the geekpac people have one thing very wrong. IRS section 501(c)4 is for organizations that explicitly lobby. (I know this because I am chair of an organization that is planning to incorporate under this section.) While the organization is non-profit, contributions to it are NOT tax deductible. The founders need to correct this in their doc if they want to be taken seriously by lobby/activists.
Look, SOMEONE needs to be really aggressive about this stuff. I don't think EFF is the answer - they are just not in-your-face enough. digitalconsumer is better on the specific issue of S.2048. Maybe geekpac will be the answer, but they need to be much, much more aggressive in their message.
(And don't give me that post-9/11 bend-over-and-take-it attitude. I still don't need to be subject to arbitrary, capricious rules created solely for the convenience of flight attendants.)
Hmm, guess they're not reserved anymore!