The HURD has been in development for at least as long as Linux but hasn't had nearly as much contribution or as much of a following. It's good to see that it's finally got an proper, full OS based around it. I would say that the HURD is a Good Thing for the Free Software/Open Source community. Choice is always a good thing and after all isn't that what this is all about? Hopefully soon there will be a choice between both a monolithic and a microkernel, both free. Competition is good for software too.
I think Debian GNU/HURD is probably more like what Stallman envisioned when he started the GNU project - after all he set out to create a free clone of unix, kernel and all. I can sort of understand why he would prefer "GNU/Linux" - after all, Linux distros have all the GNU tools there, which more or less make up a complete OS, minus the kernel. I know I'd probably feel the same way if i'd worked on heading the GNU project for years only to have my code used to make a new system with little acknowledgement in the name.
Anyway... well done to the hard working folk at GNU and Debian:)
With the way things are going, I wonder how long it will be before they start campaigning for a law that requires by law, all computers to have "back doors" so that they can access them and monitor you to see what files you have? If the SSSCA gets through, it would bring it worryingly close. If Free operating systems are made illegal, and everyone has to run Windows or MacOS or whatever it makes it a lot easier for them. The "certification" that makes the operating system legal under the SSSCA might require a back door to be present.
Tis true, you can pick up hundreds of radio stations if you've got a digital satellite antenna e.g. Sky Digital. And you can get an FM radio signal off most cable TV connections too...
However... I've yet to see or hear about someone setting up a connection to Sky Digital in their car;) For one thing, the antenna is directional, so either you'd have to keep re-aligning the dish, or get some other kind of satellite antenna that's more suitable for mobile use (besides, a dish on your car roof would just look ft00pid)...
I suppose in the meantime you could get a bunch of mobile phones at 9600bps each, add them up to get 128kbps, link them all up to a laptop, and listen to streaming MP3 broadcasts:) (if you have more money than sense)...
Nice... but 800x600 on a 36" screen? I find 800x600 too low on a 15" one!
Personally I've always been a bit sceptical of any talk of television and computers converging. If I want to use my computer, I'll sit on my computer chair at my computer desk and the monitor's good for computer stuff. But I wouldn't like to watch TV like that; I'd rather lie on the couch and watch it on a proper television.
Having said that, a wall-mounted flat 42" 16:9 screen for TV and computer would be dead good:)
If I was doing things I'd use the latest Mozilla. It's unfortunate that it's not finished yet, but anything's better than Netscape 4 which for some reason still seems to get used a lot for web browsing in Linux:/
Right, and when we stop ignoring cars, we realise that almost every house DOES have at least one of its own internal combustion engines, and we ARE in deep environmental doo-doo.:P
Oh yeah, definitely. Infrared vision, zoom, freeze frame, split screen (well, not exactly screen)... and other nifty features would be schweet. Ohh, and a linkup to a storage device so you can record what you see or take still snapshots.
Sadly I can't see this kind of technology coming along in any of our lifetimes:(
Well, unless you count the bit that they covered with red paint to look like the Arizona desert when they filmed the X-files season 2 finale, of course.:)
I completely agree with you. This is indicative of a significant change in humans, where we are becoming less dependent on pure natural selection to evolve and become resistant to diseases, and more capable of using technology to repair our defects.
I have no time here for religious people who automatically condemn scientific and medical breakthroughs as being against God's will, or whatever. Advances in scientific and medical knowledge and understanding just make God more and more redundant.
Maybe this has something directly to do with Corel's involvement in Linux recently, maybe it hasn't. But I wonder how long it is before one of these happens -
Corel pulls out of the WINE project and ceases working on Linux ports of their applications based on WINE. This is one way of MS keeping hold of their monopoly of the desktop.
The next version of Corel office (whatever it's called exactly??) and/or MS office works on Linux and Windows. Even if MS don't keep their monopoly of desktop operating systems, they can still keep a monopoly on applications, and/or benefit from Corel's growing or set-to-grow share of that market.
Either way, MS benefit and keep (some of) their share of the market.
I think this latest move must be something to do with Corel's linux strategy. It hardly makes good business sense otherwise to invest in a company that's supposed to be going down the pan, is it... something that has been roumoured about Corel recently IIRC.
I did read it, keep your hair on... OK, so they're only threataning, but my point(s) still stand, it's just as indicative of Microsoft's attitude as if they were actually sueing.
So Microsoft is sueing them for what, exactly? Accessing NTFS volumes? Um, wait, you can do that in Windows, can't you. Technically there's no difference - they haven't broken any NDAs, or released trade secrets into the public domain.
Also, I don't see what MS has to lose by having NTFS support in Linux. The only people who'd need it are possibly those who are dual booting NT and Linux, in which case they are using MS's product anyway so they aren't losing out that way. And it's unlikely that NTFS is going to become "the" standard journalling filesystem and take away more (ha!) of NT's share of the Server market. Isn't it? What with ext3, or ReiserFS or whatever its called this week just around the corner...
Hang on a sec, what is this talk of putting Gecko into Konqueror? Surely a huge amount of the work that has gone into Konqueror is the HTML rendering engine. Which I hear is coming along pretty nicely (I haven't actually tried it, however...)
It's a bit like Mozilla announcing that they're going to ditch Gecko and license IE's engine from Microsoft. (OK, perhaps not quite that extreme but you probably know what i mean!);)
Hmmmm, no, I certainly wouldn't say ethics are redundant. Sure, christianity teaches good ethics. That's fair enough. Ethics are not redundant, belief in god is. Don't get the two mixed up.
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I am actually quite an open minded person, and I haven't ruled out the possibility of some kind of god existing. I suppose there's no reason why not. But, personally, I don't see any reason to assume that there is. If there is evidence to suggest it, or even prove it, I will accept that god exists, but until then I continue to believe that god is just a convenient concept that so many people seem to need to believe in to explain their existence...
Sorry if my post comes across as flamebait but your original one did too:P Religion is something I feel pretty strongly about. Clearly, our minds work in completely different ways.
Grrrr. Troll or not, this is the kinda thing that really gets me going. I actually find this person's religious rantings quite offensive. If we're in the mood for expressing our views strongly, here's mine. Religion and belief in god is an irrational belief with no basis whatsoever, for weak minded people who can't accept (a) death (b) that their existence in the universe may well be a random coincidence and with no "purpose" or meaning. It is only people such as this who need a belief in god to be truly happy.
I believe that my existence is nothing but a random but inevitable event (the universe being so huge, the existence of life is pretty much inevitable, I'd have thought). I believe that when I die I will just die. Simple as that. Once you come to terms with these two rational premises, religion and god (irrational) are redundant.
IMHO, religion has no place in solving the world's problems (it certainly has something to do with creating them though), and certainly no place in government or education. The only true way forward is science. This research is the perfect example of the way we are trying to understand life and our existence by emulating it in technology. This is how we should rationalise our existence and make it worthwhile, by expanding our knowledge of ourselves and the universe in which we live. Not by simply inventing various deities and putting it down to themn. That's just a cop out.
Tropical paradise? Get real. Global warming will melt the polar ice caps and cause widespread flooding, areas of land will turn into desert, and winter will be perpetually overcast skies and rain.
Hot weather sucks anyway. I get uncomfortable if it goes above 25C:P
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The HURD has been in development for at least as long as Linux but hasn't had nearly as much contribution or as much of a following. It's good to see that it's finally got an proper, full OS based around it. I would say that the HURD is a Good Thing for the Free Software/Open Source community. Choice is always a good thing and after all isn't that what this is all about? Hopefully soon there will be a choice between both a monolithic and a microkernel, both free. Competition is good for software too.
:)
I think Debian GNU/HURD is probably more like what Stallman envisioned when he started the GNU project - after all he set out to create a free clone of unix, kernel and all. I can sort of understand why he would prefer "GNU/Linux" - after all, Linux distros have all the GNU tools there, which more or less make up a complete OS, minus the kernel. I know I'd probably feel the same way if i'd worked on heading the GNU project for years only to have my code used to make a new system with little acknowledgement in the name.
Anyway... well done to the hard working folk at GNU and Debian
With the way things are going, I wonder how long it will be before they start campaigning for a law that requires by law, all computers to have "back doors" so that they can access them and monitor you to see what files you have? If the SSSCA gets through, it would bring it worryingly close. If Free operating systems are made illegal, and everyone has to run Windows or MacOS or whatever it makes it a lot easier for them. The "certification" that makes the operating system legal under the SSSCA might require a back door to be present.
Hehehe ;)
;) For one thing, the antenna is directional, so either you'd have to keep re-aligning the dish, or get some other kind of satellite antenna that's more suitable for mobile use (besides, a dish on your car roof would just look ft00pid)...
:) (if you have more money than sense)...
Tis true, you can pick up hundreds of radio stations if you've got a digital satellite antenna e.g. Sky Digital. And you can get an FM radio signal off most cable TV connections too...
However... I've yet to see or hear about someone setting up a connection to Sky Digital in their car
I suppose in the meantime you could get a bunch of mobile phones at 9600bps each, add them up to get 128kbps, link them all up to a laptop, and listen to streaming MP3 broadcasts
And 3Dfx...
Nice... but 800x600 on a 36" screen? I find 800x600 too low on a 15" one!
:)
Personally I've always been a bit sceptical of any talk of television and computers converging. If I want to use my computer, I'll sit on my computer chair at my computer desk and the monitor's good for computer stuff. But I wouldn't like to watch TV like that; I'd rather lie on the couch and watch it on a proper television.
Having said that, a wall-mounted flat 42" 16:9 screen for TV and computer would be dead good
If I was doing things I'd use the latest Mozilla. It's unfortunate that it's not finished yet, but anything's better than Netscape 4 which for some reason still seems to get used a lot for web browsing in Linux :/
Right, and when we stop ignoring cars, we realise that almost every house DOES have at least one of its own internal combustion engines, and we ARE in deep environmental doo-doo. :P
Oh yeah, definitely. Infrared vision, zoom, freeze frame, split screen (well, not exactly screen) ... and other nifty features would be schweet. Ohh, and a linkup to a storage device so you can record what you see or take still snapshots.
:(
Sadly I can't see this kind of technology coming along in any of our lifetimes
ok i'm not a big linux geek so i don't know but i thought this was an x thing not an e thing? am i wrong?
:P
You are correct, the original poster is just ranting unintelligently.
The X windowing system is pretty poo, but E and Gnome make very good use of it and make it quite usable
Anyway I'll shut up, this is too offtopic..
No it isn't, DHTML is 100% client-side.
Of course... America doesn't have the label "most wasteful nation" for nothing...
;-) )
(FAO over-zealous American patriotic moderators: this is semi-humourous
Well, unless you count the bit that they covered with red paint to look like the Arizona desert when they filmed the X-files season 2 finale, of course. :)
It shouldn't be necessary, cos if you're making a joke, it should be immediately obvious by the way that you find it funny when you read it.
;-)
Although, one would really be handy right now... yes, I see your point.
But you don't have to compile support for obsolete things into your kernel, it's optional. You don't get that flexibility with Windoze.
Shusssssshh! They might get ideas!
Oh, really?
I completely agree with you. This is indicative of a significant change in humans, where we are becoming less dependent on pure natural selection to evolve and become resistant to diseases, and more capable of using technology to repair our defects.
I have no time here for religious people who automatically condemn scientific and medical breakthroughs as being against God's will, or whatever. Advances in scientific and medical knowledge and understanding just make God more and more redundant.
- Corel pulls out of the WINE project and ceases working on Linux ports of their applications based on WINE. This is one way of MS keeping hold of their monopoly of the desktop.
- The next version of Corel office (whatever it's called exactly??) and/or MS office works on Linux and Windows. Even if MS don't keep their monopoly of desktop operating systems, they can still keep a monopoly on applications, and/or benefit from Corel's growing or set-to-grow share of that market.
Either way, MS benefit and keep (some of) their share of the market.I think this latest move must be something to do with Corel's linux strategy. It hardly makes good business sense otherwise to invest in a company that's supposed to be going down the pan, is it... something that has been roumoured about Corel recently IIRC.
I did read it, keep your hair on... OK, so they're only threataning, but my point(s) still stand, it's just as indicative of Microsoft's attitude as if they were actually sueing.
:)
I think someone needs to have a little lie down
So Microsoft is sueing them for what, exactly? Accessing NTFS volumes? Um, wait, you can do that in Windows, can't you. Technically there's no difference - they haven't broken any NDAs, or released trade secrets into the public domain.
Also, I don't see what MS has to lose by having NTFS support in Linux. The only people who'd need it are possibly those who are dual booting NT and Linux, in which case they are using MS's product anyway so they aren't losing out that way. And it's unlikely that NTFS is going to become "the" standard journalling filesystem and take away more (ha!) of NT's share of the Server market. Isn't it? What with ext3, or ReiserFS or whatever its called this week just around the corner...
Hang on a sec, what is this talk of putting Gecko into Konqueror? Surely a huge amount of the work that has gone into Konqueror is the HTML rendering engine. Which I hear is coming along pretty nicely (I haven't actually tried it, however...)
;)
It's a bit like Mozilla announcing that they're going to ditch Gecko and license IE's engine from Microsoft. (OK, perhaps not quite that extreme but you probably know what i mean!)
Hmmmm, no, I certainly wouldn't say ethics are redundant. Sure, christianity teaches good ethics. That's fair enough. Ethics are not redundant, belief in god is. Don't get the two mixed up.
:P Religion is something I feel pretty strongly about. Clearly, our minds work in completely different ways.
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I am actually quite an open minded person, and I haven't ruled out the possibility of some kind of god existing. I suppose there's no reason why not. But, personally, I don't see any reason to assume that there is. If there is evidence to suggest it, or even prove it, I will accept that god exists, but until then I continue to believe that god is just a convenient concept that so many people seem to need to believe in to explain their existence...
Sorry if my post comes across as flamebait but your original one did too
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Grrrr. Troll or not, this is the kinda thing that really gets me going. I actually find this person's religious rantings quite offensive. If we're in the mood for expressing our views strongly, here's mine. Religion and belief in god is an irrational belief with no basis whatsoever, for weak minded people who can't accept (a) death (b) that their existence in the universe may well be a random coincidence and with no "purpose" or meaning. It is only people such as this who need a belief in god to be truly happy.
I believe that my existence is nothing but a random but inevitable event (the universe being so huge, the existence of life is pretty much inevitable, I'd have thought). I believe that when I die I will just die. Simple as that. Once you come to terms with these two rational premises, religion and god (irrational) are redundant.
IMHO, religion has no place in solving the world's problems (it certainly has something to do with creating them though), and certainly no place in government or education. The only true way forward is science. This research is the perfect example of the way we are trying to understand life and our existence by emulating it in technology. This is how we should rationalise our existence and make it worthwhile, by expanding our knowledge of ourselves and the universe in which we live. Not by simply inventing various deities and putting it down to themn. That's just a cop out.
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Tropical paradise? Get real. Global warming will melt the polar ice caps and cause widespread flooding, areas of land will turn into desert, and winter will be perpetually overcast skies and rain.
:P
Hot weather sucks anyway. I get uncomfortable if it goes above 25C