This ^^ my friends is what we call a "party-pooper".
It is a rare breed which when in it's natural habitat, takes an oddly small kind of pleasure in boring the crap out of all who are within earshot by talking down at people with exciting stories as if being sensible is somehow the new cool and they are taking it to a new level. That's right, disdain for other people's exciting stories. Good is bad, boring is cool, everything is turned on it's head!
Let us move along before he starts to post again, poo-pooing the story of when a girl at a night club flashed for this kid's camera and elaborating on the dangers of sexual activity.
Oh, I'm sorry I shouldn't have called them "your games". I think what everyone is trying to point out is that they don't like the whole system that DRM inevitably forces on you. You no longer buy a game and own it as your piece of property. You rent it.
Makes it hard to do what you want with them and when the companies get bought out, go out of business or just change their minds and shut off the verification servers you're SOL.
Don't forget what happened with the kindle.... I want to shit on people when I hear them bragging about their kindles.
As much as players might enjoy the convenience being brought in with this new model, giving up your other rights isn't necessary. There's also the related debate of having the right to run servers yourself and playing at lan parties.
New coke was a way to piss off people enough to get them to beg for classic coke back. It was reverse psychology at it's finest and coke sales flew through the roof when they re-introduced it.
You proved the reverse of your own point. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
That's because no climatologist would ever make such a prediction, and none have made such prediction. For two reasons: NOTHING will ever PROVE any scientific theory. The same way that nothing will ever prove gravity - merely that datapoints keep supporting our current scientific model.
Hey straw, meet man. If you read my entire post you'll see that I talk about at least having a decent model that will predict future events. Instead you pick out a simplified version of my impression of what a global warming climatologist did not do. Hey I can pick your sentences out of context too if you want.
Second, climatologists are as of now unable to predict something as localized as a specific snow storm in a specific area at a specific time more than a few days out. You are working with a two-body gravitational model, they are working with a trillion-body feedback loop. Give a bit of respect to the complexity here.
Welcome to the stupidity of the post I was replying to. I did not equate the two scenarios, HE did.
The predictions that are made are of the order of: over the next 50 years, ice will melt at rate x, and temperature will rise at rate y.
No, the predictions all contradict each other in various ways and are wildly varying. Some call for more rain, some call for more deserts, god forbit you try to compare them region by region. The *only* thing in common was a rise *year over year* of average global temperatures *without fail*. NONE of them predicted that average global temperatures would DROP as it has in recent years by many measures. Consequently, even though they gave themselves a hole you could park a truck in, they still stink of fail.
So please. Do us all a favor and go fuck off in the room where we keep all the creationists and come back when you have a working understanding of scientific research.
No, why don't you piss off like i said until you have something. Let's see: a working predictive model or I dunno a concensus or god forbid a FALSIFIABLE hypothesis. Jesus christ. If you can't even come up with a falsifiable hypothesis then there's no point in listening to you.
If the tide rises it is because of gravity.
If the tide recedes it is because of gravity.
Wow. Welcome to the world where you can make PREDICTIONS about the tide and the moon which ACTUALLY COME TRUE EVERY SINGLE TIME WITH A STUNNING DEGREE OF ACCURACY and show you have a useful model with gravity.
Now please note that before excessive snowfall, no fucking global warming campaigners said ANYTHING about "there will be a blizzard in 2010 and it will prove global warming".
Where was the prediction? Where is the proof? Oh, that's right, Say hello to the fact that AFTER the snow storms they now pop up and say "hey you see that? you see it? that could have been caused by global warming".
Well, I say this past snowfall could *just as easily* have been caused by the deez-nuts effect.
Do us all a favor. Go fuck off into the room that we keep the cold fusion guys in and come back when you have a working model with explicit predictive properties that is at least one step above the deez-nuts effect and we might actually give a fuck.
Oh Come on. This is ridiculous, you can't go around calling countries "tax happy tree hugging commie states". This has no basis in reality at all. I'm going to take a WILD guess and say that you're American.
None of your post is insightful.
Based on shoddy evidence, an entire continent is taxing energy production where there was no tax before and this is just phase 1.
greenhouse gas taxes are already in place around the world and there is big money already being made trading the credits.
European Union
Main article: European Union Emission Trading Scheme
The European Union Emission Trading Scheme (or EU ETS) is the largest multi-national, greenhouse gas emissions trading scheme in the world and was created in conjunction with the Kyoto Protocol.
After voluntary trials in the UK and Denmark, Phase I commenced operation in January 2005 with all 15 (now 25 of the 27) member states of the European Union participating.[47] The program caps the amount of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from large installations with a net heat supply in excess of 20 MW, such as power plants and carbon intensive factories and covers almost half (46%)of the EU's Carbon Dioxide emissions.[48][49] Phase I permits participants to trade amongst themselves and in validated credits from the developing world through Kyoto's Clean Development Mechanism.
Whilst the first phase (2005–2007) has received much criticism due to oversupply of allowances and the distribution method of allowances (via grandfathering rather than auctioning), Phase II links the ETS to other countries participating in the Kyoto trading system. The European Commission claims that it has been tougher on Member States' Plans for Phase II, dismissing many of them as being too loose again.[50] However, the use of carbon offsets means that the entirety of the emissions reductions required by the cap in phase 2 could be met outside of the EU itself.[51]
All EU member states have ratified the Kyoto Protocol, and so the second phase of the EU ETS has been designed to support the Kyoto mechanisms and compliance period. Thus any organisation trading through the ETS should also meet the international trading obligations under Kyoto.
I'm not quite sure I understand. So you're saying either Hippies were pushing for global warming or... Nobody was?!
Those are some crazy choices and I'd like to see how you ruled out every other person and motivation on the planet and were left with hippies.
First I'd like to point out that the way academia is funded and the political and social pressures within can motivate scientists to come to incorrect consensus. Hey if you're climatologist and your options are to side with the man-made global warming consensus to continue to get funding, or denounce it, lose funding and be ostracized and fired; you have a pretty strong reason to say you see the man made connection.
Also, I think you are completely missing the real big money and big power interests behind pushing global warming. Governments are SALIVATING at the proposition of a new way to exercise power over people with all the new carbon regulations. Downright jumping over themselves to start taxing. It puts them in an incredible position of power and control. What aspect of your life do you think does not depend on some sort of carbon exchange and release many times over? The only thing I can think of is growing plants and you better sure as hell not intend on eating them.
And don't forget the big corporations who are also dying for "carbon trading" like the financial industry. In fact don't forget big corporations, full stop. This is another way for the big boys to keep small business from ever posing a threat. Another way to squash your smaller competitor in a non-competitive manner and prevent a functioning capitalist system.
In fact, even proponents of global governance, population control, eugenics and entities interested in creating a more powerful world bank have seized on to this issue to further progress their causes. Look at the club of rome. When you have dodgy science about to command this much power every loonie wants in on the action. And don't tell me it's not dodgy, every prediction and every model ever made by a global warming supporter has always proven wrong and al gore's little film was not worthy of even being called science there were so many convenient errors.
Of course, not everyone is on board. The oil companies probably don't like this, only because it is the *perception* that their business is the only one that deals in carbon. Don't worry though, if they get their wish and convince us to switch to a hydrogen economy we can drive our fuel cell cars blissfully unaware that the only way to make that hydrogen economically is to use their hydrocarbons. Oh and as a bonus we can pay them to keep using their fueling infrastructure.
The bottom line is this, there are many more well proven pollution causes to champion and many many more worthwhile humanitarian causes to fight for. There are wars right now killing millions of people. Disease killing millions when prevention and cure is available. Starvation, rape, slave trafficking. Look at the damn pollution we've slung into the seas. You can't even eat fish more than once a month now without getting high mercury and dioxin levels. So you've got to be kidding me focusing on this, an issue that is FAR from settled and trying to introduce taxation and control by force.
I would challenge that such a large part of the economy is really made up of creative works, but a quick google search did not provide me an adequate chart.
In any case, curbing piracy inside the US will do the US economy no good no matter how large a portion is based on 'intellectual property'. There is zero net gain in wealth, it just moves around from one content producer to another and in the end no net wealth is created and the value of the goods is questionable and subjective. What really matters in terms of wealth is if the US can export things to other countries in exchange for wealth. More importantly, can they build something of worth.
Now I'm not saying there is no value in arts and entertainment. But when you build a tractor, a year later you still have a tractor that can be used to keep a farm running or build a nation. When Brittany Spears and entourage make a music video, a year later you have a piss poor excuse for a washed out overplayed shitty tune and a less attractive drugged up woman who shaves her head and shows her snatch. The obnoxious tune ain't gonna put food on your table or a roof over your head and has probably lost any monetary 'value' as well.
Sure there's lots of 'intellectual property' of the engineering kind which can have a great positive and lasting impact on a society and even great art which can be used to fight oppression and disseminate fundamental truth. However I'm of the thinking that it should be shared freely and open to collaboration a la Linux kernel rather than patented forever; and that kind of tech sure as hell ain't coming out of Hollywood and the music industry. Even if sometimes science loosely follows science fiction.
The problem is that we've been sold this globalization bullshit like it was going to be good for us. It's not good for us, it tends to lower us to the average standard of living around the world while bringing some other areas out of the gutter. All the while leaving us with Feudalism 2.0 where a mixture of corporatism and big brother style government creates an elite group of families as the new aristocracy.
What's the solution? Screwed if I know, but I know that it is not giving in to the new stratospheric upper class and letting them further establish their fiefdoms. I'm sure it has something to do with fighting the centralization of power, bringing things back to a nationalist focus and implementing Austrian school economics and a fully functional free market system.
Just remember that the more you decentralize power and bring it back to within your reach geographically, socially, physically and in other ways; the more you empower yourself to take control of your own life. And that is how it should be. Any time you feel like you're not in control of your life something is probably very wrong.
Your post was exceptionally good at putting MY breathing into manual just by reading it.
Now I've got to wait until it goes back to auto before I feel normal again.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Or in this case the central banks who print money for the government all the time so that they can spend more than their budget would allow. And borrowing. Let's not forget that.
Sure, for a certain project you might not be able to overspend, but as a whole let's not pretend government budgets are fiscally responsible in any way.
I've had a R600 based radeon HD3870 on linux for a while. I used to go with the fglrx proprietary drivers, but I've recently switched to the radeon (ddx) driver.
I have to say I'm extremely happy with the Open driver. Now is it Free Software? I'm not sure, I mean *most* of the driver seems to be, but you still need to load microcode firmware.
As far as the quality of the driver though, it seems very bug free and the kernel mode setting is awesome. Switching from vt-1 to an Xorg session for example is instantaneous. Mesa seems to need some work on the 3d side, but you can play quakelive on it and run the kde version of compiz.
It's really great that ATI has both released documentation and paid developers to work on getting these drivers up and running, they should consider both sponsoring some 3d work on the mesa side and also figuring out a way around the microcode situation.
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That's what she said!
Kthanks.
This ^^ my friends is what we call a "party-pooper".
It is a rare breed which when in it's natural habitat, takes an oddly small kind of pleasure in boring the crap out of all who are within earshot by talking down at people with exciting stories as if being sensible is somehow the new cool and they are taking it to a new level. That's right, disdain for other people's exciting stories. Good is bad, boring is cool, everything is turned on it's head!
Let us move along before he starts to post again, poo-pooing the story of when a girl at a night club flashed for this kid's camera and elaborating on the dangers of sexual activity.
Why were you a sarcastic asshole when the GP was trying to make valid points?
In case you don't know; and I'm assuming you don't in good faith, Your games will stop working if they don't talk to the verification servers.
Oh, I'm sorry I shouldn't have called them "your games". I think what everyone is trying to point out is that they don't like the whole system that DRM inevitably forces on you. You no longer buy a game and own it as your piece of property. You rent it.
Makes it hard to do what you want with them and when the companies get bought out, go out of business or just change their minds and shut off the verification servers you're SOL.
Don't forget what happened with the kindle.... I want to shit on people when I hear them bragging about their kindles.
As much as players might enjoy the convenience being brought in with this new model, giving up your other rights isn't necessary. There's also the related debate of having the right to run servers yourself and playing at lan parties.
I take it you've never heard of emacs.
It does everything. EVERYTHING.
Wow, did you buy it big time.
New coke was a way to piss off people enough to get them to beg for classic coke back. It was reverse psychology at it's finest and coke sales flew through the roof when they re-introduced it.
You proved the reverse of your own point. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Well, they've got your beardprint. It's quite unique.
I wish I could run into you in the real world and see who smacks who down.
That's because no climatologist would ever make such a prediction, and none have made such prediction. For two reasons: NOTHING will ever PROVE any scientific theory. The same way that nothing will ever prove gravity - merely that datapoints keep supporting our current scientific model.
Hey straw, meet man. If you read my entire post you'll see that I talk about at least having a decent model that will predict future events. Instead you pick out a simplified version of my impression of what a global warming climatologist did not do. Hey I can pick your sentences out of context too if you want.
Second, climatologists are as of now unable to predict something as localized as a specific snow storm in a specific area at a specific time more than a few days out. You are working with a two-body gravitational model, they are working with a trillion-body feedback loop. Give a bit of respect to the complexity here.
Welcome to the stupidity of the post I was replying to. I did not equate the two scenarios, HE did.
The predictions that are made are of the order of: over the next 50 years, ice will melt at rate x, and temperature will rise at rate y.
No, the predictions all contradict each other in various ways and are wildly varying. Some call for more rain, some call for more deserts, god forbit you try to compare them region by region. The *only* thing in common was a rise *year over year* of average global temperatures *without fail*. NONE of them predicted that average global temperatures would DROP as it has in recent years by many measures. Consequently, even though they gave themselves a hole you could park a truck in, they still stink of fail.
So please. Do us all a favor and go fuck off in the room where we keep all the creationists and come back when you have a working understanding of scientific research.
No, why don't you piss off like i said until you have something. Let's see: a working predictive model or I dunno a concensus or god forbid a FALSIFIABLE hypothesis. Jesus christ. If you can't even come up with a falsifiable hypothesis then there's no point in listening to you.
If the tide rises it is because of gravity. If the tide recedes it is because of gravity.
Wow. Welcome to the world where you can make PREDICTIONS about the tide and the moon which ACTUALLY COME TRUE EVERY SINGLE TIME WITH A STUNNING DEGREE OF ACCURACY and show you have a useful model with gravity.
Now please note that before excessive snowfall, no fucking global warming campaigners said ANYTHING about "there will be a blizzard in 2010 and it will prove global warming".
Where was the prediction? Where is the proof? Oh, that's right, Say hello to the fact that AFTER the snow storms they now pop up and say "hey you see that? you see it? that could have been caused by global warming".
Well, I say this past snowfall could *just as easily* have been caused by the deez-nuts effect.
Do us all a favor. Go fuck off into the room that we keep the cold fusion guys in and come back when you have a working model with explicit predictive properties that is at least one step above the deez-nuts effect and we might actually give a fuck.
Unfortunately I fear it is they who decide how to label and punish you.
Regardless.. If recent linux kernel development has proven anything, the mantra should be:
Release often and never split anything out into a development tree.
Oh Come on. This is ridiculous, you can't go around calling countries "tax happy tree hugging commie states". This has no basis in reality at all. I'm going to take a WILD guess and say that you're American.
None of your post is insightful.
Based on shoddy evidence, an entire continent is taxing energy production where there was no tax before and this is just phase 1.
The scheme has produced a robust market for the trade of credits. More than 8 million tons of CO2 emissions worth $130 billion were traded in Europe last year. Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/hackers-steal-carbon-credits#ixzz0esawbQzh
Seriosly. If you don't think this is big money, big business and big power for governments and corporations you're out of your mind.
Orly? What do you think these guys were stealing?
greenhouse gas taxes are already in place around the world and there is big money already being made trading the credits.
European Union
Main article: European Union Emission Trading Scheme
The European Union Emission Trading Scheme (or EU ETS) is the largest multi-national, greenhouse gas emissions trading scheme in the world and was created in conjunction with the Kyoto Protocol.
After voluntary trials in the UK and Denmark, Phase I commenced operation in January 2005 with all 15 (now 25 of the 27) member states of the European Union participating.[47] The program caps the amount of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from large installations with a net heat supply in excess of 20 MW, such as power plants and carbon intensive factories and covers almost half (46%)of the EU's Carbon Dioxide emissions.[48][49] Phase I permits participants to trade amongst themselves and in validated credits from the developing world through Kyoto's Clean Development Mechanism.
Whilst the first phase (2005–2007) has received much criticism due to oversupply of allowances and the distribution method of allowances (via grandfathering rather than auctioning), Phase II links the ETS to other countries participating in the Kyoto trading system. The European Commission claims that it has been tougher on Member States' Plans for Phase II, dismissing many of them as being too loose again.[50] However, the use of carbon offsets means that the entirety of the emissions reductions required by the cap in phase 2 could be met outside of the EU itself.[51]
All EU member states have ratified the Kyoto Protocol, and so the second phase of the EU ETS has been designed to support the Kyoto mechanisms and compliance period. Thus any organisation trading through the ETS should also meet the international trading obligations under Kyoto.
in a non-refereed journal.
Believe it or not, that last part doesn't matter.
I'm not quite sure I understand. So you're saying either Hippies were pushing for global warming or... Nobody was?!
Those are some crazy choices and I'd like to see how you ruled out every other person and motivation on the planet and were left with hippies.
First I'd like to point out that the way academia is funded and the political and social pressures within can motivate scientists to come to incorrect consensus. Hey if you're climatologist and your options are to side with the man-made global warming consensus to continue to get funding, or denounce it, lose funding and be ostracized and fired; you have a pretty strong reason to say you see the man made connection.
Also, I think you are completely missing the real big money and big power interests behind pushing global warming. Governments are SALIVATING at the proposition of a new way to exercise power over people with all the new carbon regulations. Downright jumping over themselves to start taxing. It puts them in an incredible position of power and control. What aspect of your life do you think does not depend on some sort of carbon exchange and release many times over? The only thing I can think of is growing plants and you better sure as hell not intend on eating them.
And don't forget the big corporations who are also dying for "carbon trading" like the financial industry. In fact don't forget big corporations, full stop. This is another way for the big boys to keep small business from ever posing a threat. Another way to squash your smaller competitor in a non-competitive manner and prevent a functioning capitalist system.
In fact, even proponents of global governance, population control, eugenics and entities interested in creating a more powerful world bank have seized on to this issue to further progress their causes. Look at the club of rome. When you have dodgy science about to command this much power every loonie wants in on the action. And don't tell me it's not dodgy, every prediction and every model ever made by a global warming supporter has always proven wrong and al gore's little film was not worthy of even being called science there were so many convenient errors.
Of course, not everyone is on board. The oil companies probably don't like this, only because it is the *perception* that their business is the only one that deals in carbon. Don't worry though, if they get their wish and convince us to switch to a hydrogen economy we can drive our fuel cell cars blissfully unaware that the only way to make that hydrogen economically is to use their hydrocarbons. Oh and as a bonus we can pay them to keep using their fueling infrastructure.
The bottom line is this, there are many more well proven pollution causes to champion and many many more worthwhile humanitarian causes to fight for. There are wars right now killing millions of people. Disease killing millions when prevention and cure is available. Starvation, rape, slave trafficking. Look at the damn pollution we've slung into the seas. You can't even eat fish more than once a month now without getting high mercury and dioxin levels. So you've got to be kidding me focusing on this, an issue that is FAR from settled and trying to introduce taxation and control by force.
And you're giving me this line about hippies....
I would challenge that such a large part of the economy is really made up of creative works, but a quick google search did not provide me an adequate chart.
In any case, curbing piracy inside the US will do the US economy no good no matter how large a portion is based on 'intellectual property'. There is zero net gain in wealth, it just moves around from one content producer to another and in the end no net wealth is created and the value of the goods is questionable and subjective. What really matters in terms of wealth is if the US can export things to other countries in exchange for wealth. More importantly, can they build something of worth.
Now I'm not saying there is no value in arts and entertainment. But when you build a tractor, a year later you still have a tractor that can be used to keep a farm running or build a nation. When Brittany Spears and entourage make a music video, a year later you have a piss poor excuse for a washed out overplayed shitty tune and a less attractive drugged up woman who shaves her head and shows her snatch. The obnoxious tune ain't gonna put food on your table or a roof over your head and has probably lost any monetary 'value' as well.
Sure there's lots of 'intellectual property' of the engineering kind which can have a great positive and lasting impact on a society and even great art which can be used to fight oppression and disseminate fundamental truth. However I'm of the thinking that it should be shared freely and open to collaboration a la Linux kernel rather than patented forever; and that kind of tech sure as hell ain't coming out of Hollywood and the music industry. Even if sometimes science loosely follows science fiction.
The problem is that we've been sold this globalization bullshit like it was going to be good for us. It's not good for us, it tends to lower us to the average standard of living around the world while bringing some other areas out of the gutter. All the while leaving us with Feudalism 2.0 where a mixture of corporatism and big brother style government creates an elite group of families as the new aristocracy.
What's the solution? Screwed if I know, but I know that it is not giving in to the new stratospheric upper class and letting them further establish their fiefdoms. I'm sure it has something to do with fighting the centralization of power, bringing things back to a nationalist focus and implementing Austrian school economics and a fully functional free market system. Just remember that the more you decentralize power and bring it back to within your reach geographically, socially, physically and in other ways; the more you empower yourself to take control of your own life. And that is how it should be. Any time you feel like you're not in control of your life something is probably very wrong.
Is there some reason you ignored this ideal solution?
Your post was exceptionally good at putting MY breathing into manual just by reading it. Now I've got to wait until it goes back to auto before I feel normal again.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Or in this case the central banks who print money for the government all the time so that they can spend more than their budget would allow. And borrowing. Let's not forget that.
Sure, for a certain project you might not be able to overspend, but as a whole let's not pretend government budgets are fiscally responsible in any way.
I've had a R600 based radeon HD3870 on linux for a while. I used to go with the fglrx proprietary drivers, but I've recently switched to the radeon (ddx) driver.
I have to say I'm extremely happy with the Open driver. Now is it Free Software? I'm not sure, I mean *most* of the driver seems to be, but you still need to load microcode firmware.
As far as the quality of the driver though, it seems very bug free and the kernel mode setting is awesome. Switching from vt-1 to an Xorg session for example is instantaneous. Mesa seems to need some work on the 3d side, but you can play quakelive on it and run the kde version of compiz.
It's really great that ATI has both released documentation and paid developers to work on getting these drivers up and running, they should consider both sponsoring some 3d work on the mesa side and also figuring out a way around the microcode situation.
I'm SO sick of car analogies
If I read one more car analogy I'm going to run out to my car, get it rolling in neutral and lay my head in front of the wheel.
is puppylinux on there?