Of course exchanging fake money for real money makes it real money, that's kind of obvious. That doesn't answer how the IRS is going to directly tax virtual currencies without them being made into real money. How is Uncle Sam going to extract it's pound of flesh when the flesh only exists in specific limited realms of virtual reality? That is the point I'm trying to make.
Until I can purchase gas, groceries, and beer with Bitcoins or Battle.net Gold, it's not a real currency. I do know of one drug dealer in my area that accepts bitcoin, but he's not paying taxes on that income already anyway so fake money is fine for him.
On top of that, how do they plan on dealing with things like what happened in D3 a few weeks ago where literally trillions of gold was duped which could have potentially been worth over $100,000? Is duping gold in a game going to become equivalent to real world counterfeiting? If so, who's gonna be responsible to make sure it doesn't happen? I think these fuckers are opening a Pandora's box the likes of which they have scarcely seen before.
Are cable companies included in that? My company recently revised their AUP so that all of the non-capped grandfathered plans like mine, all of a sudden have a cap. Albeit higher caps than the new "ultra high speed" plans but still I hate having a cap when all they are really trying to do it make me subscribe to their shitty cable TV service instead of streaming all of my entertainment.
They don't have a good reason for not upgrading their infrastructure which is really what the core of the data cap argument. You can trot out that "people abusing or using more than their fair share" argument all you want, but everyone knows it is complete and total bullshit. There would be more than enough bandwidth if the crooked bastards would just reinvest their monthly service fees into some hardware upgrades instead of executive bonuses and bullshit programming like any of that reality TV garbage.
This is a false equivalent and is really kind of over simplifying the issue.
It's more like someone being charged with multiple murders in several jurisdictions, along with:
1 count of aggravated assault for each murder,
1 count of battery for each murder,
1 count of kidnapping for each murder count
1 count of reckless driving,
1 count of improper disposal of a body,
1 count of improper storage of human remains,
3 counts of use of a firearm during the commission of a crime (because you had 3 guns),
1 count of taking a body across state lines
All this on top of the multiple murder charges you're already facing. Now substitute murder with "violation of CAFA" and change the violent charges to fraud charges.
I think you get the point. The charges get stacked in such a ridiculous manner and if you're found guilty of even one you're still going to go to jail for something and the juries are so hopelessly confused that they don't have much of a choice but to usually just do an all or nothing. Prosecutors offer deals that seem minor to the potential 300 year sentence your facing. It is abuse of power and exploitation of the system by the people within the system.
IMO, there are probably places you could sell information about such exploits that would be more likely to guarantee payment. On the plus side, since they've used the age of majority as a gate in this particular case, he can now pursue sales through those other venues.
That's what I thought. If paypal wants to be asshats about this, why shouldn't he find a "well intentioned" Russian gangster that would gladly pay for the information?
Ex-fucking-atly, 401K plans are just another way of moving wealth from working folks to the wealthy. They are a fucking scam of the highest order, but what hope do most people have to not live out their golden years in abject poverty?
Comparing drinking in Europe to drinking in the US is like comparing gun control in Canada to gun control in the US. The evidence doesn't follow the facts. It's a societal issue and can't be framed in the same way. So many people, yourself included, are too busy screaming "think of the children" that the real issue is obfuscated in hysteria. Here's a good way to think about this. You know what they have a lot of in Europe? Public transit. You know what they don't have a lot of in the US? Maybe that is why people drive drunk instead of catching the bus or train like they could in Berlin or Stockholm.
Getting "cases to courts" for minor infractions is just another way to make poor people that can't afford adequate representation into criminals when they shouldn't be.
Three of my friends independently had a "drink and blow" party. All of them reported that the "insipid 0.8 B.A.C." was the drunkest they had ever been since back in the days in college. In fact (warranted or not) one of their take home conclusions "if you feel fine, don't worry at all about blowing past.08, you won't, by the time you are past.08 you *know* your are drunk".
So you're lightweight friends can't handle their booze, how or why should that impact how the rest of the real world works? Being responsible is something you have to plan for and if you can't then don't go out or don't drink. Aside from that and that breathalyzers are notoriously flaky, especially the ones regular losers can get their hands on, and can be challenged in court pretty easily.
The majority of accidents are caused by people well over the insipid.08 B.A.C in the first place. B.A.C. isn't a good indication of driving impairment or base levels of intoxication. You can't really measure something arbitrary like drunkeness with a simple blood test. When you can use BAC as an indication of intoxication, it's already too late. Lowering the threshold isn't going to do anything more than increase the amount of people with DUI's, it won't do a damn bit to prevent accidents or make the roads safer. Some people are a danger on the road sober lets focus on them first.
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Of course exchanging fake money for real money makes it real money, that's kind of obvious. That doesn't answer how the IRS is going to directly tax virtual currencies without them being made into real money. How is Uncle Sam going to extract it's pound of flesh when the flesh only exists in specific limited realms of virtual reality? That is the point I'm trying to make.
Until I can purchase gas, groceries, and beer with Bitcoins or Battle.net Gold, it's not a real currency. I do know of one drug dealer in my area that accepts bitcoin, but he's not paying taxes on that income already anyway so fake money is fine for him.
On top of that, how do they plan on dealing with things like what happened in D3 a few weeks ago where literally trillions of gold was duped which could have potentially been worth over $100,000? Is duping gold in a game going to become equivalent to real world counterfeiting? If so, who's gonna be responsible to make sure it doesn't happen? I think these fuckers are opening a Pandora's box the likes of which they have scarcely seen before.
Oh god no! Think of the children! Nana and Papa are going in front of the death panel! We must deregulate!
Are cable companies included in that? My company recently revised their AUP so that all of the non-capped grandfathered plans like mine, all of a sudden have a cap. Albeit higher caps than the new "ultra high speed" plans but still I hate having a cap when all they are really trying to do it make me subscribe to their shitty cable TV service instead of streaming all of my entertainment.
They don't have a good reason for not upgrading their infrastructure which is really what the core of the data cap argument. You can trot out that "people abusing or using more than their fair share" argument all you want, but everyone knows it is complete and total bullshit. There would be more than enough bandwidth if the crooked bastards would just reinvest their monthly service fees into some hardware upgrades instead of executive bonuses and bullshit programming like any of that reality TV garbage.
Just keep shopping America, pay no attention to the camera over your shoulder. I mean if you don't have anything to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Papa John's pizza being given away for free is still dramatically overpriced. If someone wants you to eat shit, they should pay you.
You have won the internet with that comment. The game is now over.
Brilliant, that way when you die, it won't be as bad for your career!
"Oh what a cute puppy! Sorry you can't take him to your new apartment. *BANG!* Next!"
This is a false equivalent and is really kind of over simplifying the issue.
It's more like someone being charged with multiple murders in several jurisdictions, along with:
1 count of aggravated assault for each murder,
1 count of battery for each murder,
1 count of kidnapping for each murder count
1 count of reckless driving,
1 count of improper disposal of a body,
1 count of improper storage of human remains,
3 counts of use of a firearm during the commission of a crime (because you had 3 guns),
1 count of taking a body across state lines
All this on top of the multiple murder charges you're already facing. Now substitute murder with "violation of CAFA" and change the violent charges to fraud charges.
I think you get the point. The charges get stacked in such a ridiculous manner and if you're found guilty of even one you're still going to go to jail for something and the juries are so hopelessly confused that they don't have much of a choice but to usually just do an all or nothing. Prosecutors offer deals that seem minor to the potential 300 year sentence your facing. It is abuse of power and exploitation of the system by the people within the system.
IMO, there are probably places you could sell information about such exploits that would be more likely to guarantee payment. On the plus side, since they've used the age of majority as a gate in this particular case, he can now pursue sales through those other venues.
That's what I thought. If paypal wants to be asshats about this, why shouldn't he find a "well intentioned" Russian gangster that would gladly pay for the information?
Are you suggesting that they look at on the big picture? Oh snap!
The industrial revolution flipped a bitch on evolution.
If some one has to point out to you who the sucker is, it's probably you. You'd think you'd be used to that by now.
It's amazing to see the conservative circle jerk happening above this. Claiming scientific understand while denying facts and evidence. It's just sad.
Ex-fucking-atly, 401K plans are just another way of moving wealth from working folks to the wealthy. They are a fucking scam of the highest order, but what hope do most people have to not live out their golden years in abject poverty?
You are my new favorite person.
Comparing drinking in Europe to drinking in the US is like comparing gun control in Canada to gun control in the US. The evidence doesn't follow the facts. It's a societal issue and can't be framed in the same way. So many people, yourself included, are too busy screaming "think of the children" that the real issue is obfuscated in hysteria. Here's a good way to think about this. You know what they have a lot of in Europe? Public transit. You know what they don't have a lot of in the US? Maybe that is why people drive drunk instead of catching the bus or train like they could in Berlin or Stockholm.
Oh, I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings? Maybe you should put down the smirnoff ice and get on with your life.
This is something, that if you really need it explained to you, you couldn't grasp in the first place. Good day sir.
Getting "cases to courts" for minor infractions is just another way to make poor people that can't afford adequate representation into criminals when they shouldn't be.
The same can be said about gun related crime, or smoking related deaths. People want an easy bad guy to blame the indifference of the universe on.
Three of my friends independently had a "drink and blow" party. All of them reported that the "insipid 0.8 B.A.C." was the drunkest they had ever been since back in the days in college. In fact (warranted or not) one of their take home conclusions "if you feel fine, don't worry at all about blowing past .08, you won't, by the time you are past .08 you *know* your are drunk".
So you're lightweight friends can't handle their booze, how or why should that impact how the rest of the real world works? Being responsible is something you have to plan for and if you can't then don't go out or don't drink. Aside from that and that breathalyzers are notoriously flaky, especially the ones regular losers can get their hands on, and can be challenged in court pretty easily.
While I don't contend that gun regulation will save lives, I don't think this will either.
The majority of accidents are caused by people well over the insipid .08 B.A.C in the first place. B.A.C. isn't a good indication of driving impairment or base levels of intoxication. You can't really measure something arbitrary like drunkeness with a simple blood test. When you can use BAC as an indication of intoxication, it's already too late. Lowering the threshold isn't going to do anything more than increase the amount of people with DUI's, it won't do a damn bit to prevent accidents or make the roads safer. Some people are a danger on the road sober lets focus on them first.