I wasn't aware of that Ãoeber's SDC was considered industry leading. From what I gathered it is a budget alternative.
But regardless, people get hit all the time by non-drunk drivers, and it doesn't make headlines, so trying to equate this to the worst possible result a human could achieve is rather disingenuous.
So my point is, an on the cheap attempt at an SDC can measure up to a poor driver.
OK, so your approach is to dismiss the VS features Emacs doesn't have, because you feel they are unimportant to you. That's fine, it works for you, but it certainly doesn't show that Emacs is superior
It shows Emacs is superior for my needs, which are all I am qualified to talk about. And which you, by the by, are not qualified to talk about.
It only shows that you don't care about the newer, more advanced features like edit-and-continue. Personally, those features have saved me many hours of build time!
That tells me a lot about your coding style. Learn to write code and you won't need that crutch, grasshopper.
And I didn't mention attaching the debugger to an already-running process, including on a remote machine. That's pretty handy when a issues occur only after installation!
You're right, Emacs has been able to do this since the last millenium, good of you to mention it!
Emacs can do refactoring? Does it actually know where every reference to a variable exists, or is it more like a fancy search-and-replace? Does it know to leave unrelated objects alone, even if they happen to have the same name?
Yes, it can do refactoring, and yes, it is actual refactoring and not some kind of fancy search and replace. And it can do it with languages which Visual Studio does not have any support for at all.
So you say Emacs can do important things that modern editors can't. Like what, exactly?
I believe that was pretty well covered by another post here, where you decided to be sarcastic because you have never had to work over a 300 bps connection to a user site,
Yes, you do have to memorize a whole list of commands to use them. That you have already done it does not mean that others would not have to do it.
And no, they can not do all the important stuff that vim and Emacs can do. They can do some of it, and they have some flavor of the month features which nobody has bothered implementing in vim or Emacs, but there are reasons why nobody has bothered.
Rewriting code while running it sounds like a great idea, until you're running something so complex you actually have use for it, and realize you can't manage the side effects.
As for refactoring, Emacs was better at that than VS is today before the first version of VS existed.
Anyway, doesn't much matter, as this is obvious trolling.
What works, works, and no "social network" will change that.
"(which means that the public can be better at this than the scientific community)."
Crazy. You're a loonie, and the longer your crazy notions remain marginalized, the better.
You'd be better served by learning what this all is about instead of speaking garbage about how "social networks" will change how we perceive reality. They won't.
What will change our worldview is WHAT WORKS, and no social network (and absolutely not the public - or people like you who have no idea about physics) will help with that.
Seriously. This was some of the worst garbage I have ever read. Words can not express my contempt for your line of reasoning.
What you cite here supports what I state, not what you state.
"What should be explained is methods of science, but what most people concerned with the issues want the public to know about is the truth about the natural world -- that is, what the powerful believe to be the truth about the natural world."
Yet you are stuck in trying to be the powerful, talking over others to enforce what you believe to be the truth. You are peddling dogma, and falsely accuse those who try to understand reality of also peddling dogma.
Instead you should learn - and teach - methods of science.
Read what you quote next time. Just a tip. You're doing exactly what you're quoting as the wrong thing to do, and you claim that the right thing to do - based on your quotes - is "studying one side".
Your mind is stuck in treating understanding of reality as a clash of dogma. That means that if you win, all you have done is backed human understanding into a corner of dogma.
So, your suggestion for resolving the debate seems to be that I should just study one side of it.
The suggestion is that in order to resolve the debate, you should learn what the debate actually is about, and how to evaluate the claims made on all sides. You do that by learning physics.
Physics is not a series of dogma you memorize. It is methods to analyze the world, and tools you use to examine whether a proposal actually matches up with observed reality.
If you study physics, you do not study either side of this debate. You study the tools used to determine what is actually consistent with reality, and learn to use them, and then you can use them to analyze all sides of the debate to see what actually matches up with observation.
Your "freedom" now is to treat both sides as dogma, because you do not have the tools to evaluate either side. And dogma is not physics, and physics is not dogma, so you end up doing nothing at all.
As a practical matter, ALL operating systems (including Linux) ordinarily need to connect to the internet during boot.
Not even remotely correct. There is no such "ordinarily" need. In fact, I know of no OS beyond Chrome OS which has that need. The overwhelming majority of Linux distributions (including all the popular ones) have no such need. Nor does iOS or MacOS.
But neither of them can selectively disconnect from the internet while still staying on the local net (for servers and printers, for instance) - it's all or nothing.
So you have no idea how routing works. Tell me, what happens when you have no default route on your network interface, but have your IP and mask on the local net?
This procedure has helped a lot of people which have the same symptoms you explain from antibiotic treatment. It's low risk, with no known side effects over hundreds of years of use, and has a high success ratio. These particular sites advertise it to combat overpopulation of a specific nasty bacteria, but it works equally well in cases of damaged intestinal bacteria ecosystem.
I recommend taking a look, and talking to your physician. Your digestive problems can probably be fixed.
Why on earth would anyone expect people to be so stupid they try to eat Tide pods? If you had told me people were that stupid, I wouldn't have believed you. It took seeing a video of it for me to grasp the immensity of human stupidity.
Nor is a Model S a sports car. For that you have to look at something like the Audo R8 e-tron. And that is quite a different experience from a Model S.
You say "far more so". That is irrelevant. The point is, US police guns down its citizens. You even admit it by this phrasing.
That is enough for the US to lose out on the freedom scale. Just because you personally may be at low risk does nothing to alleviate that the US government slaughters its citizens.
And the original point was; why is the US so far down on the freedom index. Since you keep moving the goal posts, I see no reason to continue explaining why your freedom is an illusion. After all, the one suffering is you, not me.
No, it is one example. The most egregious one, as it's horrific and accepted in the US. If you happen to belong to the wrong ethnic group, you're not free to do things anyone is free to do in the US without fear of getting gunned down by government agents. That alone makes the US fall hard on the list of free countries.
And you fail to address what I listed; police killing people simply for driving, playing or walking in grocery stores. These things happen in areas all over the US, and are not confined to gang areas.
I lived for many years in the US. These examples are not from European media, or even US media. I saw these things happen.
In addition there are other things. Like the "free speech" zones when the President is holding speeches. Such a 1984 twist it's crazy.
There is economic freedom, where the US has a tremendously nasty gini index, and is one of the worst in the Western world.
There is freedom of religion in practice, which is another thing than the government imprisoning you for your religious views. If your religion is non-Abrahamic, the US is not going to be a nice place for you to express yourself in, and even Muslims will find they have problems.
Absolute freedom of speech ranks rather low on most people's requirements to feel, and be, free. In fact, most people in Western society abhor absolute free speech, as it provides too much power to those who wish to abuse it instead of actually being a boon for society. A balanced approach is preferred, and seen as much better, by the majority of Westerners.
So yes, I am a lot more free in Europe than I ever was in the US when I lived there. I am more free than a citizen of the US is in the US.
You are likely to get killed by police for simply driving a car, or playing in a park, in the US. Police get called to homes because someone is suicidal, and they end up killing that person. Read about that every day.
The government, in other words, will kill you for no reason. I'll take arrest over a tweet over that any day of the year.
Loss of your life is the ultimate loss of freedom.
They should. Even if it was only about entertainment, that is a need for humans. Without it people start doing crazy things.
But you conveniently left out all the non-entertainment uses, which tells me you're not actually interested in discussing this, only in making some point about how you dislike people having access to entertainment.
I'm stuck with 100Mbit because they haven't upgraded the routers in this part of town yet. The rest have a choice of up to 1Gbit, with about 300Mbit being the most cost efficient at around $30 a month.
This allows me to both stream whatever I want, on multiple devices as I like, and at the same time both host services (game servers, sharing holiday photos and videos etc., as well as a local voice chat server) and run remote work over VPN for various clients, and while that is happening download new OS images or tools for testing out.
It's increased my productivity a LOT, and getting some more bandwidth will lead to me not having to stagger my downloads like I have to do now, further increasing my productivity.
I simply can't fathom how the US can be so behind in such an important aspect of society.
None of these streaming providers pay the artist. They pay the copyright holder, which is very seldom the artist. The artist gets pennies to the dollars at best.
So you're saying, if I'm at home and there's a knock on the door, and a guy in a police uniform there tells me to do something, and I ask "why?", that justifies me being shot dead on the spot?
I am SO happy I do not live in a country where that is even a remote possibility. And I fear for people like you who consider that perfectly normal, even expected.
And my laptop will burn through battery at brutal rates, all to be able to run a simple piece of software required to get my work done.
Thanks but no thanks. I'll keep running it in Wine, where it hardly eats any CPU and uses very little RAM, and for that matter runs faster than it does in Windows.
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I wasn't aware of that Ãoeber's SDC was considered industry leading. From what I gathered it is a budget alternative.
But regardless, people get hit all the time by non-drunk drivers, and it doesn't make headlines, so trying to equate this to the worst possible result a human could achieve is rather disingenuous.
So my point is, an on the cheap attempt at an SDC can measure up to a poor driver.
And lots have hit them as well, but that doesn't exactly make first page.
OK, so your approach is to dismiss the VS features Emacs doesn't have, because you feel they are unimportant to you. That's fine, it works for you, but it certainly doesn't show that Emacs is superior
It shows Emacs is superior for my needs, which are all I am qualified to talk about. And which you, by the by, are not qualified to talk about.
It only shows that you don't care about the newer, more advanced features like edit-and-continue. Personally, those features have saved me many hours of build time!
That tells me a lot about your coding style. Learn to write code and you won't need that crutch, grasshopper.
And I didn't mention attaching the debugger to an already-running process, including on a remote machine. That's pretty handy when a issues occur only after installation!
You're right, Emacs has been able to do this since the last millenium, good of you to mention it!
Emacs can do refactoring? Does it actually know where every reference to a variable exists, or is it more like a fancy search-and-replace? Does it know to leave unrelated objects alone, even if they happen to have the same name?
Yes, it can do refactoring, and yes, it is actual refactoring and not some kind of fancy search and replace. And it can do it with languages which Visual Studio does not have any support for at all.
So you say Emacs can do important things that modern editors can't. Like what, exactly?
I believe that was pretty well covered by another post here, where you decided to be sarcastic because you have never had to work over a 300 bps connection to a user site,
I have, so I am not sarcastic about the problem.
Yes, you do have to memorize a whole list of commands to use them. That you have already done it does not mean that others would not have to do it.
And no, they can not do all the important stuff that vim and Emacs can do. They can do some of it, and they have some flavor of the month features which nobody has bothered implementing in vim or Emacs, but there are reasons why nobody has bothered.
Rewriting code while running it sounds like a great idea, until you're running something so complex you actually have use for it, and realize you can't manage the side effects.
As for refactoring, Emacs was better at that than VS is today before the first version of VS existed.
Anyway, doesn't much matter, as this is obvious trolling.
A "social network". Indeed.
Seriously, bugged off with that.
What works, works, and no "social network" will change that.
"(which means that the public can be better at this than the scientific community)."
Crazy. You're a loonie, and the longer your crazy notions remain marginalized, the better.
You'd be better served by learning what this all is about instead of speaking garbage about how "social networks" will change how we perceive reality. They won't.
What will change our worldview is WHAT WORKS, and no social network (and absolutely not the public - or people like you who have no idea about physics) will help with that.
Seriously. This was some of the worst garbage I have ever read. Words can not express my contempt for your line of reasoning.
What you cite here supports what I state, not what you state.
"What should be explained is methods of science, but what most people concerned with the issues want the public to know about is the truth about the natural world -- that is, what the powerful believe to be the truth about the natural world."
Yet you are stuck in trying to be the powerful, talking over others to enforce what you believe to be the truth. You are peddling dogma, and falsely accuse those who try to understand reality of also peddling dogma.
Instead you should learn - and teach - methods of science.
Read what you quote next time. Just a tip. You're doing exactly what you're quoting as the wrong thing to do, and you claim that the right thing to do - based on your quotes - is "studying one side".
Your mind is stuck in treating understanding of reality as a clash of dogma. That means that if you win, all you have done is backed human understanding into a corner of dogma.
Those are missing because they are irrelevant. What matters is what works.
And that is why you should learn physics. Because then you have the tools to evaluate what works.
So, your suggestion for resolving the debate seems to be that I should just study one side of it.
The suggestion is that in order to resolve the debate, you should learn what the debate actually is about, and how to evaluate the claims made on all sides. You do that by learning physics.
Physics is not a series of dogma you memorize. It is methods to analyze the world, and tools you use to examine whether a proposal actually matches up with observed reality.
If you study physics, you do not study either side of this debate. You study the tools used to determine what is actually consistent with reality, and learn to use them, and then you can use them to analyze all sides of the debate to see what actually matches up with observation.
Your "freedom" now is to treat both sides as dogma, because you do not have the tools to evaluate either side. And dogma is not physics, and physics is not dogma, so you end up doing nothing at all.
It is not about the theory of how things work; it is about the possible mechanisms the empirical facts suggest.
Which makes it a science study.
An engineering study would have been if it had been about how to harness this electricity practically.
As a practical matter, ALL operating systems (including Linux) ordinarily need to connect to the internet during boot.
Not even remotely correct. There is no such "ordinarily" need. In fact, I know of no OS beyond Chrome OS which has that need. The overwhelming majority of Linux distributions (including all the popular ones) have no such need. Nor does iOS or MacOS.
But neither of them can selectively disconnect from the internet while still staying on the local net (for servers and printers, for instance) - it's all or nothing.
So you have no idea how routing works. Tell me, what happens when you have no default route on your network interface, but have your IP and mask on the local net?
Don't leave us hanging; did you get the job?
This procedure has helped a lot of people which have the same symptoms you explain from antibiotic treatment. It's low risk, with no known side effects over hundreds of years of use, and has a high success ratio. These particular sites advertise it to combat overpopulation of a specific nasty bacteria, but it works equally well in cases of damaged intestinal bacteria ecosystem.
I recommend taking a look, and talking to your physician. Your digestive problems can probably be fixed.
https://www.openbiome.org/abou...
http://thefecaltransplantfound...
Why on earth would anyone expect people to be so stupid they try to eat Tide pods? If you had told me people were that stupid, I wouldn't have believed you. It took seeing a video of it for me to grasp the immensity of human stupidity.
I don't see how Tide could have foreseen this.
Nor is a Model S a sports car. For that you have to look at something like the Audo R8 e-tron. And that is quite a different experience from a Model S.
https://www.greencarreports.co...
You say "far more so". That is irrelevant. The point is, US police guns down its citizens. You even admit it by this phrasing.
That is enough for the US to lose out on the freedom scale. Just because you personally may be at low risk does nothing to alleviate that the US government slaughters its citizens.
And the original point was; why is the US so far down on the freedom index. Since you keep moving the goal posts, I see no reason to continue explaining why your freedom is an illusion. After all, the one suffering is you, not me.
No, it is one example. The most egregious one, as it's horrific and accepted in the US. If you happen to belong to the wrong ethnic group, you're not free to do things anyone is free to do in the US without fear of getting gunned down by government agents. That alone makes the US fall hard on the list of free countries.
And you fail to address what I listed; police killing people simply for driving, playing or walking in grocery stores. These things happen in areas all over the US, and are not confined to gang areas.
I lived for many years in the US. These examples are not from European media, or even US media. I saw these things happen.
In addition there are other things. Like the "free speech" zones when the President is holding speeches. Such a 1984 twist it's crazy.
There is economic freedom, where the US has a tremendously nasty gini index, and is one of the worst in the Western world.
There is freedom of religion in practice, which is another thing than the government imprisoning you for your religious views. If your religion is non-Abrahamic, the US is not going to be a nice place for you to express yourself in, and even Muslims will find they have problems.
Absolute freedom of speech ranks rather low on most people's requirements to feel, and be, free. In fact, most people in Western society abhor absolute free speech, as it provides too much power to those who wish to abuse it instead of actually being a boon for society. A balanced approach is preferred, and seen as much better, by the majority of Westerners.
So yes, I am a lot more free in Europe than I ever was in the US when I lived there. I am more free than a citizen of the US is in the US.
You are likely to get killed by police for simply driving a car, or playing in a park, in the US. Police get called to homes because someone is suicidal, and they end up killing that person. Read about that every day.
The government, in other words, will kill you for no reason. I'll take arrest over a tweet over that any day of the year.
Loss of your life is the ultimate loss of freedom.
Those countries are not free, you are correct.
But they are more free than the US is.
They should. Even if it was only about entertainment, that is a need for humans. Without it people start doing crazy things.
But you conveniently left out all the non-entertainment uses, which tells me you're not actually interested in discussing this, only in making some point about how you dislike people having access to entertainment.
I'm stuck with 100Mbit because they haven't upgraded the routers in this part of town yet. The rest have a choice of up to 1Gbit, with about 300Mbit being the most cost efficient at around $30 a month.
This allows me to both stream whatever I want, on multiple devices as I like, and at the same time both host services (game servers, sharing holiday photos and videos etc., as well as a local voice chat server) and run remote work over VPN for various clients, and while that is happening download new OS images or tools for testing out.
It's increased my productivity a LOT, and getting some more bandwidth will lead to me not having to stagger my downloads like I have to do now, further increasing my productivity.
I simply can't fathom how the US can be so behind in such an important aspect of society.
None of these streaming providers pay the artist. They pay the copyright holder, which is very seldom the artist. The artist gets pennies to the dollars at best.
So economy of scale does not work in the USA?
Interesting take. Never thought of that. Why is that?
So you're saying, if I'm at home and there's a knock on the door, and a guy in a police uniform there tells me to do something, and I ask "why?", that justifies me being shot dead on the spot?
I am SO happy I do not live in a country where that is even a remote possibility. And I fear for people like you who consider that perfectly normal, even expected.
And my laptop will burn through battery at brutal rates, all to be able to run a simple piece of software required to get my work done.
Thanks but no thanks. I'll keep running it in Wine, where it hardly eats any CPU and uses very little RAM, and for that matter runs faster than it does in Windows.
You eat a high sugar diet. Two sodas a day is excessive amounts of sugar.
And you keep going on about fat, as if you feel that is somehow bad. In combination with sugar it is, but alone it is not.
You'd be better off moderating your sugar intake than staying away from high fat foods.