It's a wonder he even got the position with an attitude like this:
"That's why I want to look at the records, to find out where the money goes. Why does it take $2.4 million (47 applicants paid $50,000 each) to evaluate seven top-level domains?"
It goes against all the immorral business practices that companies get sucked into.
It's amaizing that a non profit organization can have a budget that's so high, and the people that they represent get representation like Auerbach who has the integrity to ask a question like "...Why does it take $2.4 million..."
I believe that this is a clear case of public interest being served sloppy seconds from a management commitee that pays out sallarries to anywhere from 50 to a 100 people supposedly working to do something that like everybody says, should take less than 20.
Non profit company = not for profit. somehow with the numbers there talking about, ie 23 million, I think someone is making some nice paychecks.
As he says here:
"What kinds of alternatives are you offering? How do you think some of the problems, particularly with fraud, should be fixed?
First, get rid of management. Here are people whose primary belief is that elections will never work, therefore they don't try. There's a lack of will here. Also, we don't have to have electronic elections. We can have good old paper elections, the kind that work for all kinds of nonprofits all over the world. You send people an envelope, they fill out the paper and send it back. Is that so hard? Is that so extensive?
Why do you think these kinds of things aren't being considered?
Because it gets in their way of building an empire."
A non profit empire run by people who control the worlds access (in some ways) to the internet.
"And that's what ICANN is turning into -- bureaucracy upon bureaucracy."
And one last comment:
"As far as finances go, the thing is just naive. Here he is asking governments to pay. Who in the U.S. has been the most vociferous opponent to ICANN at the federal level? Congress. If anybody at ICANN would bother to read something simple, like the U.S. Constitution, they'd recognize that funds have to be approved by Congress; the executive branch doesn't print money and spend it. If someone's going to pay ICANN, it's going to have to be passed by Congress. And that certainly gives Congress a much stronger level to exert control.
And how are you going to get governments to agree? Governments are required, under the Lynn plan, to gather into clubs and select someone. But now, according to a recent clarification, they have to select from a list prepared by this council -- and then pay for the privilege."
Pay for the privilege?!
A non profit organization requiring people to pay for the right to have participation in the proceeding that the non profit organization was made for?
It just strikes me as odd that these people got away with anything like this for as long as they did, but I can understand with the current and past administration. Also without slashdot and other websited like them I'd be totally in the dark about these things, they're not in the news or the local paper. It seems like people are just ending over for anything these days.
I'm totally proud of Auerbach and his ability to cut to the chase. SHOW HIM THE MONEY!
The third is utterly insane to have as an option for a security device. why not just have a voice password that you have to say in a loud articulate voice from five feet away.
That has got to be the most easily comprimised password method ever!
you: Tilt left - right - back to arm laptop, and leave...
you : come back and tilt laptop right - back - left
Person outside looking in sees you do this and comes in and takes your laptop, disarming it with your (super secret password tilt combo) while you feel secure cause you spent a hundred dollars on a security device.
what a joke, that method shouldn't even exist, too many stupid users are gonna use it.
interesting, I thought submersables used this
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interesting, I thought submersables used this already to get internal waterflow. because they couldn't have long lasting waterproof motors within the pipes, they had a fan that was driven by the outer ring so they didn't have the actual motor and electrical perts exposed to the water, I remember that they said something about the pressure and salt water being corrosive and the normal pumping systems not working well.
I'm still trying to fing an article, but it might have been in an issue of popular mechanics.
Casting director must be an addicted fan and able to recite each charactors relationship to each other charactor. He/she must be given photographs of all avalable actors, not just super expensive ones that only resemble their part less than 20%.
Screenwriter must be in the same room as the director of the animated version at least 50% of the time during production, the animated version director must be given a small bat with which to hit the screenwriter when in disagreement.
The writer of the movie plot must be able to fit it within the animated timeline up till now. introducing charactors for the first time is fine, but no bringing back the dead and killing them in different ways.
Special effects must be limited to the function of adding to the film, not becomming the entire focus of having 40% of the shots (like in Star Wars 1)
If you thought your info was easy to steal now... Just wait till identity theft takes a new turn in the digital age.
Just as the low bandwidth high quality of MP3s allowed the easy download of billions of songs, I can only imagine how easy it will be for criminals to get their hands on the info stored in those cards, all they need is a reader and a storefront to rake in the identities, turn around and burn their own smart cards, and guess what SHOPPING TIME, YOU'RE DIVORCED, YOUR MARRIED YOUR DEAD, YOUR IN GUAM!
Well AOL could actually contribute to the Red Hat community that is still using 56k dial-up.
AOL could ship their CDs with the Red Hat distro on them so people will actually put them in their computers before toasting them.:)
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Your post is an example of our times and the focus of my point. People simply do not get it.
Read the post again: We're just not ready as a society for this yet, we squabble over incompetance in copyrights and intelectual property rights more than we try to improve the world for the betterment of man.
Do you see anything in that sentence about pong?
That sentence is about society and their inibility to grasp points that are slightly more complicated than pop tart instructions. And their stupidity and narrowmindedness about innovating for their own profit, not mankinds benifit.
Let me explain the connection:
VR, Reactive Tactile Environment, the combo goes way beyond pong. It can help doctors perform surgery with microscopic robots inside your heart because they get a tactile response from the sensors on the robots instruments and they can see a zoomed in image in 3 dimensions displayed in their VR glasses to get a up close look at what they are working on. This kind of technology is being developed in many areas by many people around the world, and yes, sometimes it starts out with pong.
Security was a secondary concern, not totally ignored like microsoft. Their secondary concern, if not primary, was profit.
Re:Totally tech ignorant yet "brave" stupod people
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The plane is expendable, All it serves to do is to get the camera into the storm where I do not wish to be. The debris is what I want to film. Imagin all the crap flying around, if I can catch even a tenth of the stuff with any clairity people would pay. Fridges hitting cows and people hitting their own trailer homes and such. The higher the framerate the better the results, that's where I'd spend the money to get a quality camera, and I would SOOOO insure it against nature and such.
(imagine bringing it in to radioshack afterwords. "piece of crap didn't last an hour" (set bag of parts on desk) "I want another, it's under warranty.")
Totally tech ignorant yet "brave" stupod people.
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Wouldn't it be a little easier to mount a remote control airplane from radio shack or better quality, with an epoxy encased digital video camera with solid media?
Have one inner relay remote controlled to let go and start recording till the battery ran out. Fly this sucker into the tornado after making as many close passes as possible.
Then when the tornado is letting up track it with a simple directional locater picked up for under 100 bucks at the spy shops online?
Find the camera and crack open the solid media which sould survive anything short of getting broken in half against a house or something.
This is an idea that could be done under 500 bucks total. If I had the money these guys throw around I'd be making these planes in bulk and having my friends come out and help fly them into the tornados!
Quote: "... our core focus was on usability, rather than security. Security precautions were a secondary concern."
This is a core decision to any successful product, hardware, software, anything!
History has provided us the answer and it has been : A good product that's easy to use will make us more happy than if you make more money cause I am forced to suffer your paranoia. If it's easy and smart people will buy, if it's a hassle, screw you!
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And the current game platforms are fighting people for being too violent?
I fear that the pain will be a little too much for too many people and too little for others.
Burns, heart attacks, and other problems will stop this from being a cool platform that it could be. with this system, a broken controller button might piss you off a bit more.
We're just not ready as a society for this yet, we squabble over incompetance in copyrights and intelectual property rights more than we try to improve the world for the betterment of man.
As soon as there are foundations funding and protecting people for their contributions rather than mega-corperations trying to sue them and get their marketshare, then we will be able to accept the responsibility for a game platform like this.
They bought out slashdot.com a little while ago, it's just a forwarder address but with them being owned by OSDN and now the subscription setup, I would consider them a company.
On most articles dealing with companies charging the public, most of the posts here at slashdot are centered on chastizing the company for not listening to their customers and what they want.
Well you've asked us in the current poll.
2% say they've subscribed 21% say they will if annoyed enough
And the winner at this time is a wopping 51% who say they will never subscribe, EVER!
with your pricing scheme as I understand it you will charge your most loyal and active members the most and let the casual readers and frivilious posters pay the least.
I ask you a question:
What kind of turn out do you think you would get if you offered to take Visa/MC directly and check in the mail payment options for a years membership at $1 a year?
I think you should at least offer a poll to see what your customers would think of this offer.
If you get over five times (10%+) as many who would subscribe at that rate with those payment options then you might want to seariously look into it. I truely think you'll get over a 40-50 percent acceptance.
Don't become another failed.COM article on another website. PLEASE?!?
I looked on their web page and they had a search form for speedpass locations. A search for San Diego resulted in a "sorry no locations in your area" message.
After I saw the response to the parent post I went to google and found the same page, it wouldn't load for a couple min and then loaded a half page, then loaded a full page. The results were interesting after the same search: the first gave 1 listing without any details such as address. The second gave 5 without addresses. the third gave 5 with all addresses.
I can only think that they have updated their page or database while I was trying to search.
There are at least 5 locations in san diego that accept speedpass.
They offer applications for speedpass free online.
How about making the speedpass available for gas?
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How about making the speedpass standard available for gas first?
In san diego there's not a single gas station that will accept speedpass.
I'm sick of things being hyped as new revolutionary and totally cool without seeing it become actually popular by public demand.
If you spend all your money funding new instances of your product standard before it becomes a standard you're in for a reality check, not a paycheck.
These people need to get out in the real world and see what it's like, not take the word of the company marketing and selling the products.
Ultrasonic wave generator that causes nerve stimulation and overload to the point of writhing on the ground in such pain you forget to bef for it to stop!
Slippery slime will only piss people off because they keep falling. And how are the police supposed to go in and arrest or cuff these people if they're slipping around in it themselves?
I can just see rioters and police wearing golf/soccer shoes to get traction.
If you have a problem you fix the problem. We fixed a problem of recieving spam from their open relays by blocking them from sending to us. We asked them to close their relays and they said no or didn't respond, so we blocked them.
Now they want us to unblock them and the answer seems fairly obvious to me. NOT until you close your relays which is why you are blocked!
Quote: "Peter Lovelock, director of Beijing-based consultancy MFC Insight, said the National People's Congress might be swayed to pass laws calling for more rigorous management of Internet-linked servers in China in order to avoid international embarrassment."
If it's such a problem that your "Chinese legislators" are getting involved they should stop complaining that they're bring punished and fix the problem.
"OTOH, the electronics companies benefit from the blue laser format, since blue lasers are still Really Expensive.Guess which format the electronics companies are pushing?"
But that's the confusion.
If the blue laser is better in doing the job but is more expensive for the manufacturers, then why: "...nine of the world's biggest electronics companies agreed to promote a blue-laser-based format for next-generation video and computer optical disks." The electronics companies are the ones who have to make millions of blue laser readers for all the people to read them, the dvd sellers only have to buy 10 writers to make millions of dvds, more if they have the throughput needs, in which case they have the money.
it would seem to me that it's backwards.
Also: consumers want inexpensive larg capacity DVD burners. If the cost of the burner is $300 but could store on a 5 dollar disk more than most standard hard drives (50G), I'd buy it. It's like having 50g drives, which, I'm sorry but I only use for archiving anyway. there's no way I access over 50g activly, I compile it and store it, perhaps change around 20 gigs if I'm organizing or cleaning house. Tape drives aren't cheap and they're lame as far as tech and time. searching sucks and dvd is sooo much faster.
Looks like a form that's been signed rather than a comment by a person typing their feelings like the phrase leads to believe "I am just an interested civilian"
If they use terms that can be interpreted a number of ways and they are the ones responsible for interpreting them, the result being a choice wether or not to let competition gain footholds, do you think they'll do the "good" thing?
A child gets in trouble for cheating
The parents find out and sit the child down to talk about punishment
The child says "I won't do it again unless it's unreasonable."
The parents laugh and say "You will NOT do it"
This is clear and understandable and is appropriate because it's the child's judgement that was flawed in the first place that led him/her to cheat.
Leaving any leeway is irresponsible.
Ever as a teenager try to get out of being punished for something that your parents told you not to do, by interpreting their directions obviously wrong? Didn't work then but in a courtroom I could see it work and that's not justice that's Microsofts obvious hope.
It's a wonder he even got the position with an attitude like this:
"That's why I want to look at the records, to find out where the money goes. Why does it take $2.4 million (47 applicants paid $50,000 each) to evaluate seven top-level domains?"
It goes against all the immorral business practices that companies get sucked into.
It's amaizing that a non profit organization can have a budget that's so high, and the people that they represent get representation like Auerbach who has the integrity to ask a question like "...Why does it take $2.4 million..."
I believe that this is a clear case of public interest being served sloppy seconds from a management commitee that pays out sallarries to anywhere from 50 to a 100 people supposedly working to do something that like everybody says, should take less than 20.
Non profit company = not for profit.
somehow with the numbers there talking about, ie 23 million, I think someone is making some nice paychecks.
As he says here:
"What kinds of alternatives are you offering? How do you think some of the problems, particularly with fraud, should be fixed?
First, get rid of management. Here are people whose primary belief is that elections will never
work, therefore they don't try. There's a lack of will here. Also, we don't have to have electronic elections. We can have good old paper elections, the kind that work for all kinds of nonprofits all over the world. You send people an envelope, they fill out the paper and send it back.
Is that so hard? Is that so extensive?
Why do you think these kinds of things aren't being considered?
Because it gets in their way of building an empire."
A non profit empire run by people who control the worlds access (in some ways) to the internet.
"And that's what ICANN is turning into -- bureaucracy upon bureaucracy."
And one last comment:
"As far as finances go, the thing is just naive. Here he is asking governments to pay. Who in the U.S. has been the most vociferous opponent to ICANN at the federal level? Congress. If anybody at ICANN would bother to read something simple, like the U.S. Constitution, they'd recognize that funds have to be approved by Congress; the executive branch doesn't print money and spend it. If someone's going to pay ICANN, it's going to have to be passed by Congress. And that certainly gives Congress a much stronger level to exert control.
And how are you going to get governments to agree? Governments are required, under the Lynn plan, to gather into clubs and select someone. But now, according to a recent clarification, they have to select from a list prepared by this council -- and then pay for the privilege."
Pay for the privilege?!
A non profit organization requiring people to pay for the right to have participation in the proceeding that the non profit organization was made for?
It just strikes me as odd that these people got away with anything like this for as long as they did, but I can understand with the current and past administration. Also without slashdot and other websited like them I'd be totally in the dark about these things, they're not in the news or the local paper. It seems like people are just ending over for anything these days.
I'm totally proud of Auerbach and his ability to cut to the chase. SHOW HIM THE MONEY!
And the publicity from this review is accidental too.
you should only have two!
The third is utterly insane to have as an option for a security device.
why not just have a voice password that you have to say in a loud articulate voice from five feet away.
That has got to be the most easily comprimised password method ever!
you: Tilt left - right - back to arm laptop, and leave...
you : come back and tilt laptop right - back - left
Person outside looking in sees you do this and comes in and takes your laptop, disarming it with your (super secret password tilt combo) while you feel secure cause you spent a hundred dollars on a security device.
what a joke, that method shouldn't even exist, too many stupid users are gonna use it.
interesting, I thought submersables used this already to get internal waterflow. because they couldn't have long lasting waterproof motors within the pipes, they had a fan that was driven by the outer ring so they didn't have the actual motor and electrical perts exposed to the water, I remember that they said something about the pressure and salt water being corrosive and the normal pumping systems not working well.
I'm still trying to fing an article, but it might have been in an issue of popular mechanics.
Casting director must be an addicted fan and able to recite each charactors relationship to each other charactor. He/she must be given photographs of all avalable actors, not just super expensive ones that only resemble their part less than 20%.
Screenwriter must be in the same room as the director of the animated version at least 50% of the time during production, the animated version director must be given a small bat with which to hit the screenwriter when in disagreement.
The writer of the movie plot must be able to fit it within the animated timeline up till now. introducing charactors for the first time is fine, but no bringing back the dead and killing them in different ways.
Special effects must be limited to the function of adding to the film, not becomming the entire focus of having 40% of the shots (like in Star Wars 1)
If you thought your info was easy to steal now...
Just wait till identity theft takes a new turn in the digital age.
Just as the low bandwidth high quality of MP3s allowed the easy download of billions of songs,
I can only imagine how easy it will be for criminals to get their hands on the info stored in those cards, all they need is a reader and a storefront to rake in the identities, turn around and burn their own smart cards, and guess what SHOPPING TIME, YOU'RE DIVORCED, YOUR MARRIED YOUR DEAD, YOUR IN GUAM!
Well AOL could actually contribute to the Red Hat community that is still using 56k dial-up.
AOL could ship their CDs with the Red Hat distro on them so people will actually put them in their computers before toasting them.
Your post is an example of our times and the focus of my point. People simply do not get it.
Read the post again:
We're just not ready as a society for this yet, we squabble over incompetance in copyrights and
intelectual property rights more than we try to improve the world for the betterment of man.
Do you see anything in that sentence about pong?
That sentence is about society and their inibility to grasp points that are slightly more complicated than pop tart instructions. And their stupidity and narrowmindedness about innovating for their own profit, not mankinds benifit.
Let me explain the connection:
VR, Reactive Tactile Environment, the combo goes way beyond pong. It can help doctors perform surgery with microscopic robots inside your heart because they get a tactile response from the sensors on the robots instruments and they can see a zoomed in image in 3 dimensions displayed in their VR glasses to get a up close look at what they are working on. This kind of technology is being developed in many areas by many people around the world, and yes, sometimes it starts out with pong.
Security was a secondary concern, not totally ignored like microsoft. Their secondary concern, if not primary, was profit.
The plane is expendable, All it serves to do is to get the camera into the storm where I do not wish to be. The debris is what I want to film. Imagin all the crap flying around, if I can catch even a tenth of the stuff with any clairity people would pay. Fridges hitting cows and people hitting their own trailer homes and such. The higher the framerate the better the results, that's where I'd spend the money to get a quality camera, and I would SOOOO insure it against nature and such.
(imagine bringing it in to radioshack afterwords. "piece of crap didn't last an hour" (set bag of parts on desk) "I want another, it's under warranty.")
Wouldn't it be a little easier to mount a remote control airplane from radio shack or better quality, with an epoxy encased digital video camera with solid media?
Have one inner relay remote controlled to let go and start recording till the battery ran out. Fly this sucker into the tornado after making as many close passes as possible.
Then when the tornado is letting up track it with a simple directional locater picked up for under 100 bucks at the spy shops online?
Find the camera and crack open the solid media which sould survive anything short of getting broken in half against a house or something.
This is an idea that could be done under 500 bucks total. If I had the money these guys throw around I'd be making these planes in bulk and having my friends come out and help fly them into the tornados!
Quote: "... our core focus was on usability, rather than security. Security precautions were a secondary concern."
This is a core decision to any successful product, hardware, software, anything!
History has provided us the answer and it has been : A good product that's easy to use will make us more happy than if you make more money cause I am forced to suffer your paranoia. If it's easy and smart people will buy, if it's a hassle, screw you!
And the current game platforms are fighting people for being too violent?
I fear that the pain will be a little too much for too many people and too little for others.
Burns, heart attacks, and other problems will stop this from being a cool platform that it could be.
with this system, a broken controller button might piss you off a bit more.
We're just not ready as a society for this yet, we squabble over incompetance in copyrights and intelectual property rights more than we try to improve the world for the betterment of man.
As soon as there are foundations funding and protecting people for their contributions rather than mega-corperations trying to sue them and get their marketshare, then we will be able to accept the responsibility for a game platform like this.
As almost always, an anonymous reader fails to read the quote they respond to.
"... and check in the mail payment options..."
Try this link: Slashdot.com
They bought out slashdot.com a little while ago, it's just a forwarder address but with them being owned by OSDN and now the subscription setup, I would consider them a company.
On most articles dealing with companies charging the public, most of the posts here at slashdot are centered on chastizing the company for not listening to their customers and what they want.
.COM article on another website. PLEASE?!?
Well you've asked us in the current poll.
2% say they've subscribed
21% say they will if annoyed enough
And the winner at this time is a wopping 51%
who say they will never subscribe, EVER!
with your pricing scheme as I understand it you will charge your most loyal and active members the most and let the casual readers and frivilious posters pay the least.
I ask you a question:
What kind of turn out do you think you would get if you offered to take Visa/MC directly and check in the mail payment options for a years membership at $1 a year?
I think you should at least offer a poll to see what your customers would think of this offer.
If you get over five times (10%+) as many who would subscribe at that rate with those payment options then you might want to seariously look into it.
I truely think you'll get over a 40-50 percent acceptance.
Don't become another failed
UPDATE:
I looked on their web page and they had a search form for speedpass locations. A search for San Diego resulted in a "sorry no locations in your area" message.
After I saw the response to the parent post I went to google and found the same page, it wouldn't load for a couple min and then loaded a half page, then loaded a full page. The results were interesting after the same search:
the first gave 1 listing without any details such as address.
The second gave 5 without addresses.
the third gave 5 with all addresses.
I can only think that they have updated their page or database while I was trying to search.
There are at least 5 locations in san diego that accept speedpass.
They offer applications for speedpass free online.
How about making the speedpass standard available for gas first?
In san diego there's not a single gas station that will accept speedpass.
I'm sick of things being hyped as new revolutionary and totally cool without seeing it become actually popular by public demand.
If you spend all your money funding new instances of your product standard before it becomes a standard you're in for a reality check, not a paycheck.
These people need to get out in the real world and see what it's like, not take the word of the company marketing and selling the products.
Hell yeah!
Phazer crowd control Phasor Pain Field Generator for Mounting on a CAR!
Ultrasonic wave generator that causes nerve stimulation and overload to the point of writhing on the ground in such pain you forget to bef for it to stop!
Slippery slime will only piss people off because they keep falling. And how are the police supposed to go in and arrest or cuff these people if they're slipping around in it themselves?
I can just see rioters and police wearing golf/soccer shoes to get traction.
If you have a problem you fix the problem.
We fixed a problem of recieving spam from their open relays by blocking them from sending to us.
We asked them to close their relays and they said no or didn't respond, so we blocked them.
Now they want us to unblock them and the answer seems fairly obvious to me. NOT until you close your relays which is why you are blocked!
Quote: "Peter Lovelock, director of Beijing-based consultancy MFC Insight, said the National People's Congress might be swayed to pass laws calling for more rigorous management of Internet-linked servers in China in order to avoid international embarrassment."
If it's such a problem that your "Chinese legislators" are getting involved they should stop complaining that they're bring punished and fix the problem.
"OTOH, the electronics companies benefit from the blue laser format, since blue lasers are still Really Expensive.Guess which format the electronics companies are pushing?"
But that's the confusion.
If the blue laser is better in doing the job but is more expensive for the manufacturers, then why: "...nine of the world's biggest electronics companies agreed to promote a blue-laser-based format for next-generation video and computer optical disks." The electronics companies are the ones who have to make millions of blue laser readers for all the people to read them, the dvd sellers only have to buy 10 writers to make millions of dvds, more if they have the throughput needs, in which case they have the money.
it would seem to me that it's backwards.
Also:
consumers want inexpensive larg capacity DVD burners. If the cost of the burner is $300 but could store on a 5 dollar disk more than most standard hard drives (50G), I'd buy it. It's like having 50g drives, which, I'm sorry but I only use for archiving anyway. there's no way I access over 50g activly, I compile it and store it, perhaps change around 20 gigs if I'm organizing or cleaning house. Tape drives aren't cheap and they're lame as far as tech and time. searching sucks and dvd is sooo much faster.
Comparison chart
I don't see a benifit especially in storage space for the red laser format.
Anybody have a reason other than politics?
Looks like a form that's been signed rather than a comment by a person typing their feelings like the phrase leads to believe "I am just an interested civilian"
A quick random look at the actual comments supports this:
Russo, Patricia
Crimin, Duane
Vaughn, Mary
They are too many to list all of them, but I hope that people are actually reading these before they sign them (or at least are not fictional).
I'd respect a persons opinion more if they actually give it instead of saying "ditto" or "like he said"
If they use terms that can be interpreted a number of ways and they are the ones responsible for interpreting them, the result being a choice wether or not to let competition gain footholds, do you think they'll do the "good" thing?
A child gets in trouble for cheating
The parents find out and sit the child down to talk about punishment
The child says "I won't do it again unless it's unreasonable."
The parents laugh and say "You will NOT do it"
This is clear and understandable and is appropriate because it's the child's judgement that was flawed in the first place that led him/her to cheat.
Leaving any leeway is irresponsible.
Ever as a teenager try to get out of being punished for something that your parents told you not to do, by interpreting their directions obviously wrong?
Didn't work then but in a courtroom I could see it work and that's not justice that's Microsofts obvious hope.