given the fact that everyone can patent stupid and obvious things nowadays, doing the same thing yourself is a valid strategy to protect yoour idea from being exploited.
i suggest you try to understand my post before you try to punish me with smart citations. pot and kettle etc.
one could also reason that these technologies need to be protected from some company that wants to make money with it.
as far as i understand, patents are meant to protect the inventors, and this is IMHO a clear cut case of a good use for a patent. the people that conduct this research appear trustworthy to me. i'd rather have them hold the patent to this setup than let some big company steal it away.
everyone is misreading my post. i just wanted to say that i think it is inappropriate that people refer to "wir haben es nie gewusst" when the DB sues some dutch company in 2002. whether you refer to it with a "humorous" quote to Hogans Heroes or not.
my reply had *nothing* to say about hogans heroes.
when i said over 50 years i meant the 2nd world war.
anyways, this whole thing is way OT, and i must say i was surprised by the amount of reactions to it when i came home after work just now. as far as i'm concerned this is end of discussion.
it seems pretty silly to me. why solve the problem at the level of a search engine. it makes more sense to block the sites themselves (as they did with the xs4all pages), since people will find the pages eventually, even without the almighty google.
this case is stupid anyway, since the pages have been on the xs4all server for 4/5 years already*, and now they started to complain all of the sudden.
* link (in dutch) http://www.xs4all.nl/nieuws/overzicht/radikal.html
...an anti linux ad. makes you wonder why ms still cuddles up next to apple even though their five year monster agreement nears its end.
but, let's face it: linux / X11 / 'insert any desktop manager here' is not as nice a osx. it's free though, and that's why i keep on using it (that and the fact that osx doesn't run on an i386 arch).
but it could be applied to almost any job, as long as other people do not strictly depend on you (eg nurses)
if we all were not organizing our jobs to a nine-to-five time-schedule, we'd be a lot more relaxed. i think that it's much more motivating to focus on getting a task done. if that means working 12 hours straight the one day, and taking off the other day, it's no problem.
of course i'm speaking as someone who has the freedom to choose his working hours, but i do get the job done. quite efficiently compared to most of my 9-5 oriented co-workers actually.
actually, i've been reading "the hacker ethic" form pekka himanen last month, and he has some very interesting things to say about the current "protestant work ethic" vs an alternative, not so time-oriented work ethic. the book's a "must buy" IMHO
> The other is slacking off, and will probably get > you in trouble.
which is plain silly if you ask me. "slacking off" can be just the thing that makes you more relaxed during your workday, and being more relaxed makes it easier to perform well when you actually have to do something.
i don't understand that a lot of managers still seem to think that the best way to increase efficiency is to shorten any "idle" time, and seem view the worker as a machine-like entity.
i was requesting information. since when is that such a bad thing?
and just because i can't code (well), doesn't mean i should be excluded from using open source or free software. if kde was written for the programmers only, why would they care to make it userfriendly?
i do my best to support open sourced/free software. i test betas, try to report bugs, and if a newbie asks, and i know how to help, i do.
it is quite arrogant to assume i'm a freeloader when you know nothing about me and what i do. it would have been more productive if you had pointed out a link or two in the time you took to write your comment.
i got what you said the first time and reponded acordingly in my reply. didn't you read it?
[slightly annoyed] i did not say that xbox will monopolise the game console market. *you* are translating with a bias what i am saying. please don't try to demonise people who have "morally wrong" standpoints in your opinion, and read my post carefully as i read yours carefully before reacting.
your response is more than slightly offensive, judgemental, and generalises people according to your world view. if you're gonna respond to me like this, please don't. [slightly annoyed]
aren't a lot of audiofiles still totally in love with vinyl? you just show me an LP record that has a dynamic range of anything near 90dB and i'll eat my hat. gladly.
nonetheless, i completely agree with using a pc for gaming and a good hifi system for listening to music. there's more to sound quality than the s/n ratio of your soundcard:^)
so, can someone score a +5 informative for me and tell me where i can find the free/open source software to make this an easy to use component in my tv/stereo setup?
i mean: - rip &play mp3/ogg/windows media, divx, dvd - audio recording (some radio transmissions are really worthwhile saving!) - video recording (analog).
and all this with a nice and easy interface that can be viewed on the tv i use for video output?
i know of some of the aplications i just mentioned (mplayer, xine, xmms, etc). it's just that they're all separate applications, which doesn't make it easy to use. i don't want to sit and watch a dvd, using a keyboard and mouse to navigate through the thing.
ps. don't tell me to code it myself or shut up, because i can't code, and most of the people interested in this kind of thing can't either.
seriously, i see your point. these things take time though. revolutions are never good for business (read "for making money"). but that's IMHO of course
> This is exactly the kind of attitude that gives > Microsoft an advantage in software. hold your horses;-), i'd love to see the xbox fail. i'm just saying that it's too early to tell yet. never ever am i going to buy the thing, and i think that's what really counts, right?
i'm not whining "ohhh the evil empires' monopoly will make the xbox a success after all", since microsoft does not hold a monopoly on the game-console market. yet. i was just trying to point out that good marketing will tame the masses. you are not the target of their marketing, obviously, since you're tech minded thus more critical & well informed (i might hope so at least, given your opinionated post:^)
regarding your remark that gamers won't make the same mistake again: well, they did in the past! over and over again. why should it be different now? again: a lot of game-console buyers are not as critical as you are...
ah well, what do i care. the weather's nice outside, think a'll go and sit on my balcony and drink a cool beer. have a nice day:-)
it took windows a while to become usable after v1.0;-). and ps2 has had a big head start already, so let's indeed not assume yet that the xbox is a flop. allthough it would be nice to see on of microsofts over-marketed products fail...
it doesn't seem to be a good tactic given the fact that napster is dead already... (see earlier posts) not evrything is a conspiracy, sometimes companies have strange business tactics:-)
Slashdot Mirror
...make me wanna do just one thing. reboot into win98 and play quake :)
games are evil, and the largest threat to widespread use of opensource software...
given the fact that everyone can patent stupid and obvious things nowadays, doing the same thing yourself is a valid strategy to protect yoour idea from being exploited.
i suggest you try to understand my post before you try to punish me with smart citations. pot and kettle etc.
regards
one could also reason that these technologies need to be protected from some company that wants to make money with it.
as far as i understand, patents are meant to protect the inventors, and this is IMHO a clear cut case of a good use for a patent. the people that conduct this research appear trustworthy to me. i'd rather have them hold the patent to this setup than let some big company steal it away.
everyone is misreading my post. i just wanted to say that i think it is inappropriate that people refer to "wir haben es nie gewusst" when the DB sues some dutch company in 2002. whether you refer to it with a "humorous" quote to Hogans Heroes or not.
my reply had *nothing* to say about hogans heroes.
when i said over 50 years i meant the 2nd world war.
anyways, this whole thing is way OT, and i must say i was surprised by the amount of reactions to it when i came home after work just now. as far as i'm concerned this is end of discussion.
stereotyping germans as people who look away when evil is done is insulting, whether you encapsulate it into a reference to Hogans Heroes or not.
my god, it was more than half a century ago.
i don't care if i burn karma this way, i just find your "sense of humour" distasteful. bah!
it seems pretty silly to me. why solve the problem at the level of a search engine. it makes more sense to block the sites themselves (as they did with the xs4all pages), since people will find the pages eventually, even without the almighty google.
l
this case is stupid anyway, since the pages have been on the xs4all server for 4/5 years already*, and now they started to complain all of the sudden.
* link (in dutch) http://www.xs4all.nl/nieuws/overzicht/radikal.htm
has anyone tried the voice recognition feature?
:-)
i just can't wait for the day to ask: "computer... open slashdot"
...an anti linux ad. makes you wonder why ms still cuddles up next to apple even though their five year monster agreement nears its end.
but, let's face it: linux / X11 / 'insert any desktop manager here' is not as nice a osx. it's free though, and that's why i keep on using it (that and the fact that osx doesn't run on an i386 arch).
unfortunately, many people find the dominance of the majority enough reason not to support the minority
sad but true
but it could be applied to almost any job, as long as other people do not strictly depend on you (eg nurses)
if we all were not organizing our jobs to a nine-to-five time-schedule, we'd be a lot more relaxed. i think that it's much more motivating to focus on getting a task done. if that means working 12 hours straight the one day, and taking off the other day, it's no problem.
of course i'm speaking as someone who has the freedom to choose his working hours, but i do get the job done. quite efficiently compared to most of my 9-5 oriented co-workers actually.
actually, i've been reading "the hacker ethic" form pekka himanen last month, and he has some very interesting things to say about the current "protestant work ethic" vs an alternative, not so time-oriented work ethic. the book's a "must buy" IMHO
> The other is slacking off, and will probably get
> you in trouble.
which is plain silly if you ask me. "slacking off" can be just the thing that makes you more relaxed during your workday, and being more relaxed makes it easier to perform well when you actually have to do something.
i don't understand that a lot of managers still seem to think that the best way to increase efficiency is to shorten any "idle" time, and seem view the worker as a machine-like entity.
they're playing "modern talking" on the tkc player. they *must be evil*
;-)
i was requesting information. since when is that such a bad thing?
and just because i can't code (well), doesn't mean i should be excluded from using open source or free software. if kde was written for the programmers only, why would they care to make it userfriendly?
i do my best to support open sourced/free software. i test betas, try to report bugs, and if a newbie asks, and i know how to help, i do.
it is quite arrogant to assume i'm a freeloader when you know nothing about me and what i do. it would have been more productive if you had pointed out a link or two in the time you took to write your comment.
regards
i'm pretty convinced we are not able to convince each other ;-) let's agree to disagree and stop this ot discussion.
take care
hey,
i got what you said the first time and reponded acordingly in my reply. didn't you read it?
[slightly annoyed]
i did not say that xbox will monopolise the game console market. *you* are translating with a bias what i am saying. please don't try to demonise people who have "morally wrong" standpoints in your opinion, and read my post carefully as i read yours carefully before reacting.
your response is more than slightly offensive, judgemental, and generalises people according to your world view. if you're gonna respond to me like this, please don't.
[slightly annoyed]
thanks for listening
erm...
:^)
aren't a lot of audiofiles still totally in love with vinyl? you just show me an LP record that has a dynamic range of anything near 90dB and i'll eat my hat. gladly.
nonetheless, i completely agree with using a pc for gaming and a good hifi system for listening to music. there's more to sound quality than the s/n ratio of your soundcard
regards
so, can someone score a +5 informative for me and tell me where i can find the free/open source software to make this an easy to use component in my tv/stereo setup?
i mean:
- rip &play mp3/ogg/windows media, divx, dvd
- audio recording (some radio transmissions are really worthwhile saving!)
- video recording (analog).
and all this with a nice and easy interface that can be viewed on the tv i use for video output?
i know of some of the aplications i just mentioned (mplayer, xine, xmms, etc). it's just that they're all separate applications, which doesn't make it easy to use. i don't want to sit and watch a dvd, using a keyboard and mouse to navigate through the thing.
ps. don't tell me to code it myself or shut up, because i can't code, and most of the people interested in this kind of thing can't either.
been reading "the hacker ethic" lately? ;^)
seriously, i see your point. these things take time though. revolutions are never good for business (read "for making money"). but that's IMHO of course
given what i heard of it, the slogan "the way out" is not a reflection of the alternatives MS/Unysis can offer.
a cheaper way in, definitely!
> This is exactly the kind of attitude that gives ;-), i'd love to see the xbox fail. i'm just saying that it's too early to tell yet. never ever am i going to buy the thing, and i think that's what really counts, right?
:^)
:-)
> Microsoft an advantage in software.
hold your horses
i'm not whining "ohhh the evil empires' monopoly will make the xbox a success after all", since microsoft does not hold a monopoly on the game-console market. yet. i was just trying to point out that good marketing will tame the masses. you are not the target of their marketing, obviously, since you're tech minded thus more critical & well informed (i might hope so at least, given your opinionated post
regarding your remark that gamers won't make the same mistake again: well, they did in the past! over and over again. why should it be different now? again: a lot of game-console buyers are not as critical as you are...
ah well, what do i care. the weather's nice outside, think a'll go and sit on my balcony and drink a cool beer. have a nice day
point taken, allthough bobs' failure is hardly as visible as xboxs' failure would be. keeping my fingers crossed ...
it took windows a while to become usable after v1.0 ;-). and ps2 has had a big head start already, so let's indeed not assume yet that the xbox is a flop. allthough it would be nice to see on of microsofts over-marketed products fail...
it doesn't seem to be a good tactic given the fact that napster is dead already... (see earlier posts) not evrything is a conspiracy, sometimes companies have strange business tactics :-)
just remember that it's the older generation that builds the gap...
:^)
(no i'm not fifteen anymore