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Portable Firefox and Thunderbird

RHLJay writes "-For the Road Warrior on the Go- If you have a laptop, desktop, and/or work PC keeping the information from Firefox and Thunderbird sync'd with each other is hard, not to mention the extensions. Not anymore - John Haller has packaged both Firefox and Thunderbird into 'Flash drive friendly' executables which can be run directly from a USB flash drive. Visit his site for more info. Portable Firefox and Portable Thunderbird."

270 comments

  1. Amazing by KJKJava · · Score: 1

    This will be nice. Sort of like what you can do with Knoppix Linux or such.

    1. Re:Amazing by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why did I have to read half the page to figure out what version of FireFox/ThunderBird he had packaged though ?? (of course it's windows, I wonder why I even wondered, duh)

      OTOH I suppose it's easier to find a random Windows PC than a real computer nowadays... (gratuitious flaimbait, I know)

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    2. Re:Amazing by SoSueMe · · Score: 2
      I wonder if it has the same quirk as was reported in the Inquirer today:
      "any URL beginning with extra http:// at the front seems to take you to Microsoft's home page"
      Try "http://http://slashdot.org". It seems that the extra "http://" winds up redirecting you to Microsoft. Wierd.
    3. Re:Amazing by numark · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not really weird. It appears that Firefox, when it doesn't recognize what you typed in the address bar as an actual address, tries to use Google's "I'm Feeling Lucky" system to get to the actual page. For instance, type "quicktime" in the address bar, and you'll get sent to apple.com/quicktime, since that's the first result on a Google search for "quicktime". The problem therefore lies in Firefox not recognizing the extra "http://" as extraneous, and instead acting like it's a search term. It just so happens that the first result for a search on "http://" with Google is Microsoft's home page.

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    4. Re:Amazing by MynockGuano · · Score: 1

      I've noticed this behavior a few months ago. Typing just 'http' into the location bar takes you there, too, so I figured MS just yanked the domain name or something. Oddly, though, now that I look, typing www.http.com doesn't bring you there. Does this happen with other browsers, as well, or just Firefox?

    5. Re:Amazing by damiam · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you want this same concept on a larger scale, look at Flash Linux - Linux with GNOME 2.8 on a 256 USB key.

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    6. Re:Amazing by MynockGuano · · Score: 1

      Nevermind. See above post by someone smrter than I >8)

    7. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you gnaughty linux users are always flashing people like that!

    8. Re:Amazing by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

      Thank you. That clears this up.

    9. Re:Amazing by bcore · · Score: 1

      I'm curious about why the search for http:// leads to those pages in particular. It looks kind of like a list of the most popular sites on the internet, with some odd exceptions (world health organization, for instance.) It's also funny how hotmail appears as sign in access error.

    10. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hotmail sign-in error (and others such as "you need Flash to view this site") is a result of the automated web crawler Google uses to catalouge and archive web pages which can seemingly only access HTML, not special file formats such as Flash and Java.

    11. Re:Amazing by bcore · · Score: 1

      True, but... You would assume that hotmail, as big as it is, would anticipate google crawling it, and be prepared for that.

    12. Re:Amazing by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      But how many people actually google for hotmail?

    13. Re:Amazing by JohannCV · · Score: 1

      Actually, isn't this just a matter of Firefox trying to attach TLD endings to the url? So, it tries "quicktime.com" which simply redirects the user to the URL you mentioned. The same goes for http. Go to "http.com" and it will bring you to the site previously mentioned.
      For instance, typing in litigious bastards as the URL will bring up an error message rather than forward you to sco.com.

    14. Re:Amazing by numark · · Score: 2, Informative

      I made a slight mistake in my previous message. Typing simply "quicktime" will send you to apple.com/quicktime/download/, whereas Quicktime.com goes to simply apple.com/quicktime/ (no "download" subdirectory). I thought the same thing as you at first, but it still works differently. I just tried "litigious bastards" in the address bar, and it did in fact forward me to sco.com (I'm using Firefox 1.0 final). HTTP.com brings me to an ad site, not Microsoft like "http://" does.

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    15. Re:Amazing by bcore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Probably not many, but those that do would be the same ones who would be confused by the error page in the listings.

    16. Re:Amazing by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Years ago the Mac version of Netscape's browser would automatically add www. and .com if you put a single word into the address bar.

      If you go to www.quicktime.com you get redirected to http://www.apple.com/quicktime/. No need for Google Magic when you just add www. and .com and the site in question redirects you.

      The I'm feeling lucky search for google takes you to the Quicktime download page, not the basic quicktime page.

      LK

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    17. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It just so happens that a marketing company has registered http.com. So any mistyped http://http:// get sent here. This in turn redirects them to MICROS~1. Who appariently has leased this service.

      What are the ethical implications of the worlds leading software maker hijacking the DNS system for such a purpose.

    18. Re:Amazing by jagstyle · · Score: 3, Informative

      I recommend changing the "I'm feeling lucky" search behavior to a normal Google search

      Insert into user.js (using ChromEdit extension):

      // Change to normal Google search: user_pref("keyword.URL", "http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&q =");

    19. Re:Amazing by Nick+Harkin · · Score: 1

      From the result of a minute or so searching about, it seems like typing '$foo' into the address bar, actually directs you to the first result for '$foo' in google.

      For example, just typing in "litigious bastards" sends you to the first google result for "litigious bastards", in this case http://www.sco.com/, as shown on http://www.google.com/search?q=litigious%20bastard s.

      As the first result for "quicktime" on google is http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/, and the first result for "quicktime.com" is http://www.apple.com/quicktime/, this all seems to make sense.

    20. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People, seriously, try it. Firefox DOES NOT add www. and .com to URLs it does not recognize.

      Compare:
      google search
      feeling lucky
      just http
      www..com

      Now try something else, like "kitties":
      google search
      feeling lucky
      just kitties
      www..com

    21. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went to google's Special Searches (Linux) and typed in http. The first thing I got was Slashdot :D

    22. Re:Amazing by deke_kun · · Score: 1

      Actually this feature still exists. Type in google or whatever into the address bar, and then hit CTRL-ENTER (instead of just enter) and it fills in the http://www. and .com on it.

      Handy huh :P

    23. Re:Amazing by Sputum · · Score: 1

      There are still plenty of people I know who will type "www.google.com" into the MSN search on the default IE page to get to google. I set the home page on a couple of users' PCs to our corporate page, which has no web search function, and they were lost.

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    24. Re:Amazing by Sputum · · Score: 1

      Hahahaha that's awesome. Mod parent up!

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    25. Re:Amazing by CritterNYC · · Score: 1

      Why did I have to read half the page to figure out what version of FireFox/ThunderBird he had packaged though ?? (of course it's windows, I wonder why I even wondered, duh)

      Sorry bout that. I've updated the page to mention it by the download up top.

      OTOH I suppose it's easier to find a random Windows PC than a real computer nowadays... (gratuitious flaimbait, I know)

      Yes, it is. And you can copy your bookmarks, cookies, etc directly into a copy of Portable Firefox/Thunderbird on a USB key from within Mac OSX or Linux and then use it anywhere one of said Windows PCs is.

    26. Re:Amazing by ClockworkPlanet · · Score: 1

      This is superb, John, many thanks. I read about the possibility of doing this earlier in the year but never got round to it.

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    27. Re:Amazing by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      I think the concept of a bootable CD with $HOME on USB mass storage is more portable.

      There still aren't that many machines around that can boot on USB devices and when you go away from home, the average web café will likely have some kind of PII or PIII class machine rather than the latest and greatest (which isn't required for that task anyway).

      Therefore something like the Mandrake Move (which is commercial) seems preferable IMO. I'm looking into a free and more hackable (where I could pick my application set) alternative myself that I could use in conjunction with my iRiver HD player.

      This would have helped me a lot a couple weeks ago where I had to edit a Scribus Job on my PictureBook... Took 2 1/2 hours to compile Scribus, and doing DTP on the 1024x480 PictureBook screen, well, it's suboptimal to say the least...

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    28. Re:Amazing by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      It's still a worthy project though, sorry if I seemed like I played it down, it did find a place on my MP3 player ;)

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    29. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's really funny, is that Google itself is the 2nd result on the 2nd page, for "http". You'd think that Google would have a higher GoogleRanking than any other page in the world.

    30. Re:Amazing by CritterNYC · · Score: 1

      It's still a worthy project though, sorry if I seemed like I played it down, it did find a place on my MP3 player ;)

      Not at all. I'd actually been meaning to mention the Windows-only nature on the page. It's well-known in the mozillaZine forums, but most people are finding the project through other sources now-a-days.

      Also, the eventual goal is to have Windows, Mac and Linux versions of Firefox installed on the portable drive with specialized launchers all running the same profile.

    31. Re:Amazing by dragonman97 · · Score: 1

      See Google's Zeitgeist. Pay particular attention to the October 2004 Factoid box. It kind of boggles my mind that people *search* for "mapquest." I don't suppose they'd notice that the URL happens to be "www.mapquest.com." Futhermore, if you know about the Ctrl-Enter trick, you really don't need to expend any real effort. The only way I can rationalize this is if they don't want to type much, and typing "mapquest" and then using the mouse from then on is somehow easier for them - I can't figure it out.

  2. Been using this for a while by lordkuri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is damn handy when you're trying to patch/clean a spyware riddled machine. Sometimes it's almost impossible to get stuff working with so much crap clogging up the browser. This thing is uber useful, IMHO.

    1. Re:Been using this for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's also damn handy when your old school IT manager refuses to allow installation of any other browser besides IE.

    2. Re:Been using this for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What would also be useful is a PocketPC/WinCE/whatever Mozilla port... Opera isn't even available for it, despite having versions for various smartphones. Have I missed something, and if not, why isn't there one? The closest thing I've seen is Thunderhawk, which I believe uses KHTML. It isn't free, unfortunately.

    3. Re:Been using this for a while by lordsilence · · Score: 1

      Sure, it's handy to use "pure" software when the rest of the system is clogged with spyware and alike. But is it that handy when micro$oft update requires a browser which supports Active X?

      Yes, know you can download executables. But before you've found all of those, your computer has probably already frozen-over seeming like you've got the next iceage.

    4. Re:Been using this for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's also damn handy when your old school IT manager refuses to allow installation of any other browser besides IE.

      If that IT manager was really "old school", they would insist on using nothing but verion 1.0 of NCSA's Mosaic browser.

    5. Re:Been using this for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can tell he's old school because he forgot to disable USB Storage support when he locked your shit down.

    6. Re:Been using this for a while by lordkuri · · Score: 1

      so do what I do, grab all the latest patches and stick 'em on a set of cds. I also made an htaccess protected directory on my web server that holds those files as well. With portable firefox, I can install all but 1 day old patches and service packs, with *no* worries about the machine getting reinfected after I clean it with adaware/spybot/etc.

      that saves me a lot of time overall, for very little effort.

    7. Re:Been using this for a while by IO+ERROR · · Score: 3, Interesting
      This is damn handy when you're trying to patch/clean a spyware riddled machine.

      Having never used a USB flash drive on Windows, I have to ask, how do you prevent Windows from writing to the flash drive and corrupting your nice shiny Firefox install? I'd love to carry one of these around, but I want to be sure the OS isn't going to be able to screw with it.

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    8. Re:Been using this for a while by lordkuri · · Score: 3, Informative

      most have a read only switch somewhere on the device.

    9. Re:Been using this for a while by lordkuri · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's a damn good idea. I'd pay decent money (hint hint) for a "Firefox for PalmOS" to use with my Tungsten.

    10. Re:Been using this for a while by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Informative

      On my Belkin 128 MB usb dongle, I have a little jumper-slider (like seen on matrox video cards). This is a chip-based write-protect. Takes a paperclip to do, but your data isnt changeable in the least.

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    11. Re:Been using this for a while by jtdennis · · Score: 1

      http://www.autopatcher.com/ is a pretty good resource for doing offline updates.

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    12. Re:Been using this for a while by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      Been there for a while. It's great because I can bypass all the IE settings about Flash and Shockwave :D

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    13. Re:Been using this for a while by lordkuri · · Score: 2, Interesting

      let me rephrase that...

      I'd give a large donation (hint hint) for someone to port it and GPL it. Firefox shouldn't be sold, IMHO.

    14. Re:Been using this for a while by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Try NetFront, which is a pretty good browser. Or, if you're using vanilla WinCE or WM2003, IE isn't bad, though it does suck eggs in PPC 2k and 2k2. But either way, if you're using IE on any CE OS, you should be using ftxBrowser, which adds tabs, configurable hotkeys and a better bookmarks system. One of the first things I install on a new CE installation.

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    15. Re:Been using this for a while by griffjon · · Score: 1

      I was also caught in a situation where the nastyware watched any browser for specific search terms and killed the process, as well as blocked all access to the anti-virus provider sites.

      It required a BartPE CD to get rid of that one. it SUCKED.

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    16. Re:Been using this for a while by thephotoman · · Score: 1

      Er...it'd be under the MPL, not the GPL, as it's just a port of a program under the MPL.

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    17. Re:Been using this for a while by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      At schools everyone uses USB Mass Storage anyway, so they never lock it down.

    18. Re:Been using this for a while by Ianoo · · Score: 1

      Actually, you can relicense MPL programs under the GPL since the MPL is a BSD-like license. However this would be a bit silly.

    19. Re:Been using this for a while by NMEismyNME · · Score: 2, Funny

      A friend of mine does tech support at a local university. He got a call from a philosophy professor, and upon asking 'Do you have a PC or MAC?' was greeted with the reply 'Neither. I use a terminal which connects to the mainframe.' He went and had a look and discovered that he did indeed use a terminal connecting to some mainframe that my friend didn't even know existed. This guy used his terminal for email and word processing, but he also used it to design web pages!

      He seems quite happy with his new eMac though.

    20. Re:Been using this for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you've been saving that...since 1999?

    21. Re:Been using this for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little jumper-slider? It's called a DIP switch, dumbass.

    22. Re:Been using this for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think you might be wanting the MiniMo Project?

      Minimo Project

    23. Re:Been using this for a while by uberdood · · Score: 1

      Huh? Interesting? Why the hell would Windows corrupt the install? A USB flash drive is nothing more to Windows than just another data storage device. Does Windows regularly corrupt your Firefox install on the hard drive? (That's a rhetorical question - of course it doesn't. If it does, than you need to fix your installation of Windows.)

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  3. Lateness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey slashdot, two weeks ago called. They'd like their news back.

    1. Re:Lateness by Infinityis · · Score: 3, Funny

      Little known to the caller, this action prompts Slashdot to go into the defensive mode, wherein the article is duplicated...

    2. Re:Lateness by EpsCylonB · · Score: 4, Funny

      1998 called, they want there joke back.

    3. Re:Lateness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2004 called, they have some spelling for you.

    4. Re:Lateness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Korea called. Only old people laugh at your joke.

    5. Re:Lateness by elemental23 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The English language called, they want their improper spelling of their back.

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    6. Re:Lateness by lifebouy · · Score: 1

      I'd have modded you up funny if you didn't A/C.

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    7. Re:Lateness by zoloto · · Score: 1, Redundant

      3rd grade called. they want their spelling back! /jab

    8. Re:Lateness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4th grade called. They want their confusion between spelling and grammatical errors back.

    9. Re:Lateness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your mom called, she wants her giant dildo back.

    10. Re:Lateness by AkaXakA · · Score: 1

      I called, I want my funny!

  4. Re:FP by KJKJava · · Score: 1

    lol yeah.

  5. Where's the news? by chrisopherpace · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This has been around for quite some time....

    1. Re:Where's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know. I've had .9.3 myself over two months, but even the newest 1.0 release is pushing a month old.

    2. Re:Where's the news? by silverfuck · · Score: 1
      Indeed, it has been on texturizer.net's tips and tricks page (don't bother clicking, it redirects to mozilla.org's firefox documentation now) for as long as I can remember. It can now be found here. Maybe these executables have just been altered so the hardcoded profile directory is in the same place as the executable (i.e. on the flash drive), just to save you the huge effort of creating a shortcut or batch file or something specifying where it should look for the profile. (For those who can't be bothered to look, the switch is apparently:
      firefox.exe -profile path_to_profile
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  6. Still waiting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for the NYT firefox ad... Anyone know when its coming out??

    1. Re:Still waiting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll be waiting awhile. Doubtless it was all a scam to steal money from stupid nerds who don't know any better.

    2. Re:Still waiting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      after the Christmas shopping season more than likely

  7. Hot damn by wcitechnologies · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is awesome on a number of levels.

    As a computer technician, there have been several times where I have been prevented from getting a vital file off the internet when trying to repair somebody's computer. Usually this is because IE has become a spyware infested rathole.

    If I had the ability to carry a browser with me, use it, download files, etc. without even having to install anything, hot damn, that'd save some time.

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    1. Re:Hot damn by caino59 · · Score: 1

      You do know that on that USB key you can carry an entire operating system, right? That operating system can also include a browser.

      The benefits of this are still there...especially being able to take all your bookmarks with you, not have to reboot to load a different os (great for work!) /me looks at 1gb usb key

      i dont know how i survied without this....oh yah...cd's.....before that....floppies....ugh

      see, smaller is better ;oP

    2. Re:Hot damn by avij · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ultimate Boot CD for Windows saved my ass a few days ago, perhaps that project might be of interest to you as well.

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    3. Re:Hot damn by wcitechnologies · · Score: 4, Informative
      Thanks for the tip, I've been using Bart's PE Builder.

      http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

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  8. Excellent by Celt · · Score: 1

    I've used these in the past on a 32MB USB 1.0 flash drive, loaded slowly due to the slow USB speed but worked great other then that :)
    Must get the updated one's now,

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  9. Old, but still good by krazykit · · Score: 0

    I've used this since before they had extension support. I don't recall ever seeing a portable Opera...

  10. Looks pretty handy... by eeg3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Plus with all the modifications they did for Firefox, such as Download History Cleared, Browser History Disabled, Form Info Saving Disabled, No Disk Cache, and No permanent cookies... it won't take up a very large footprint. Mind you, Firefox installed only takes up a meager 8.6Mb.

    Thunderbird on the other hand compresses EXEs and DLLs with UPX. They also recompressed the JAR files (which are ZIP files).

    1. Re:Looks pretty handy... by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

      yes! and may even be capable of sub-10-minute initial startup times!

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  11. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by phalse+phace · · Score: 2, Informative

    and then get a shit load of spyware, viruses, etc. at the same time? No thanks.

  12. Sweet by DethKing · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now I can use firefox at work where the I.S. Nazi's only allow I.E. morons.. I was actually just talking about this with a co worker to see if I could do it... looks like it was done for me!

    1. Re:Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use it on my work machine, but I can actually run it off the HD. No admin privileges necessary. Very sweet.

    2. Re:Sweet by HalliS · · Score: 1

      Exactly. This reminds me of a reply I made on /. a few days ago, I was replying to

      timmyf2371 (586051) on Monday November 22, @09:10AM (#10886322) (http://www.timfarrell.co.uk/) - who said, regarding worm exploits and the usability of IE:

      Perhaps some of us use locked down PCs in our workplace and have no choice but to use IE as a browser.

      My reply:

      Re:Sorry but ... (Score:1) by HalliS (668627) on Monday November 22, @07:33PM (#10890570) (http://openoffice.org/)

      This defense definetly applies when you're using an app that requires IE, but if you're just locked down in the sense that you can't install Firefox, then I recommend that you use portable firefox [mozdev.org] .. It's meant for portable usb drives and such, but you can download it to your "personal folder" or what not, to use within the company's network.

      I use it at my school, with great success. No installation required.


      The mods didn't seem to fond of it then ;)

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    3. Re:Sweet by agraupe · · Score: 1

      Well, at school (which is, I suppose, different from work), there is a policy wherein removable media (such as flash drives) cannot have executables. Better check if your place of work has one of those...

      Believe me, I would have FF and PuTTY if this weren't a rule.

    4. Re:Sweet by Lehk228 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      or even better don't try to make an end run around IT at work, eventually it will show up in some sort of log or management console, or someone from IT will walk by with you running firefox. Then you can tell HR how clever you are as they kick your ass to the curb, if IT are assclowns and force everyone to use IE and that causes a virus or spyware problem then IT looks bad, if you run firefox off your thumb drive then you look like a security risk or a "rebel" and you are likely to get canned. Personally I love Firefox and hate iexplode, but not enough to risk getting fired over. (unless of course your job really blows and you want to get fired)

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    5. Re:Sweet by rikkards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      mod parent up. I work for military and the only approved browser is exploder. I would say a good portion of my group uses firefox at home and we all have admin access to our machines due to our roles so installing is no problem and in our cases we are not being audited for software (yet). However we can get a security sweep done of our office at a moments notice and that would be pretty much job termination, none of us are stupid enough to risk our jobs for it.

    6. Re:Sweet by DethKing · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the heads up, but as far as know, there is no policy like that... And since I'm not actually installing software, I get around the usage agreement. and i'm already branded a 'rebel' since i ran a ping and tracert on aweb site that was down and was checking to see if it was external or internal. Hell, i think i just want firefox for the tabbed browsing alone.

    7. Re:Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "mod parent up. I work for military and the only approved browser is exploder."

      You know, every few months there's another story about "virus wipes out entire departments of the US (government/military/police)", and people don't believe it, thinking "of all people, they should at least have a clue"

      Apparently not.

      Presumably, putting IE as the sole defence betwen your personal computers and enemy crackers is a bit like leaving a cuddly-toy guarding the front gate to your base, except not as obvious to people who think they understand computers...

    8. Re:Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I am not US govt but close. We have not had a major virus out break in a long time (like pre slammer). Dat updates are 3 days after they are released (testing occurs befor to make sure nothing happens. Firewalls block ActiveX control. Hell Java from external sites aren't even allowed. With the latest IFrames issue with IE, Iframes are blocked until we get the patch rolled out. I have heard that the DOD network is not set up that secure. Once you are on you have access anywhere (mind you this is the non classified networks and third party info).

  13. Nice, but... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That's nice, but what I really need is a flash drive that doesn't lose data (like the last save from a MSWord file) when it's unplugged from Win 2K without being "ejected" first. Maybe a flash drive with its own OpenVMS file system.

    Why do I have this bad habit? Because I first started using flash drives on Win98SE, and those manufacturer's drivers always flushed the data to the drive when available. I could unplug them the moment the drive actvity led stopped flashing. When I "eject" the flash drive from 2K, I can see Windows do a final file access to it before telling me it's safe to disconnect. Leaves me really wondering what happens to data in the drive when I get a power failure or BSoD before an eject.

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    1. Re:Nice, but... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In linux, doing "mount -o async /dev/ABCD /path/to/mount" should tell the kernel to immeidately flush this buffer to disk immediately.

      This is the setting I use on my thumbdrives and floppes while using Linux.

      I fail to find information about Windows asynch-like commands on storage devices.. though Sysinternals did create a WIndwos-like sync command.

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    2. Re:Nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what I really need is a flash drive that doesn't lose data

      why not turn of write caching of your flash device via device manager...

    3. Re:Nice, but... by squallbsr · · Score: 5, Informative

      But in windows you can disable this "feature" by disabling write caching in the preferences. That way it will always write everything when you tell it to. That way you dont need to "eject" the media.

      In WinDoze XP SP2 you can access the device properties from the device manager, under "Disk Drives" - Find your device and right click to choose "Properties", then you can click on the "Policies" tab and tell it to optimize for fast removal...

      I know its in a different place for Windoze 2k, but you will have to find it. You need to disable "Write Caching" then Presto! it will work like previously...

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    4. Re:Nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh, Disable write chaching in its policies in Win2k, XP defaults to this.

      Just be glad you not on MacOS, that thing give you no option to simply remove hardware, and if you do it pops up a message box that you HAVE to dismiss.

    5. Re:Nice, but... by ezzzD55J · · Score: 3, Informative
      In linux, doing "mount -o async /dev/ABCD /path/to/mount" should tell the kernel to immeidately flush this buffer to disk immediately.

      That is awfully wrong. async does the opposite; it performs i/o asynchronously, not taking care to leave the metadata in a consistent state. Fast (esp. vs. synchronous on harddisks) but dangerous (esp.. etc). If it helps at all in this setting, you'd want sync.

    6. Re:Nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you will find that 'async' is the default.

      you might want to use 'sync' instead?

    7. Re:Nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "Eject" or "Remove" command syncs the disk in Windows.

    8. Re:Nice, but... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

      Whoops. Shoulda reverted to RTFM'ing..

      Btw, its sync on my setup. Im just on a windows box, whilst building a big raid set (on a linux machine).

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    9. Re:Nice, but... by cortana · · Score: 1

      sync doesn't work on VFAT filesystems, from what I've heard.

    10. Re:Nice, but... by silverfuck · · Score: 2, Informative

      What if (as in every case I've seen on win2k, but it probably depends upon the device or controller or something), the write caching option is greyed out, yet write caching is evidently enabled as it still blows rasberries when you yank it out without first having told it to eject it?

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    11. Re:Nice, but... by fishbot · · Score: 1

      Works like a charm on my VFAT compact flash, etc. It's the linux filesystem driver that is affected by this setting, not the filesystem on the disk.

    12. Re:Nice, but... by cortana · · Score: 1

      Right, the vfat module doesn't do anythign when you use sync. Or so I heard, might just be old information.

    13. Re:Nice, but... by indiechild · · Score: 1

      At work, we use Windows XP and the IT admins have enabled write caching for all drives by default, including USB drives. Typical, they refuse to change the settings.

      Makes it very very annoying to use USB flash drives, especially when you want to leave in a hurry (I work in a library and often move to different desks while helping customers get information).

    14. Re:Nice, but... by fishbot · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. you may be right. According to the man page for mount:

      "The following options apply to any file system that is being mounted (but not every file system actually honors them - e.g., the sync option today has effect only for ext2, ext3 and ufs):"

      However, when I specify the option the vfat filesystem on the card does seem to a) slow down somewhat and b) not need a massive amount of flushing when unmounting. A quick google indicates others recommend using sync with vfat, despite the man page!

      The mystery continues...

    15. Re:Nice, but... by welshie · · Score: 1

      This is more a problem for Microsoft Word, and the filesystem used to write to the flash drive, than the actual drive technology itself. Try this on olde-world technology: Fire up a copy of Microsoft Word for Windows 2.0 (yes, the version that pre-dated bloatware) on Windows 3.1. Open a word document from a floppy disk, start working on it, now remove floppy disk from drive with hardware eject button, and re-insert another floppy disk. Watch in awe as disks get corrupt and files irrevocably lost. This proves that block level devices that have the ability to be hardware level removal from the system before any cache is flushed, and things like file locks removed is dangerous. With USB and/or firewire, it's all too tempting to unplug such removable media if you're in a hurry. Now, use a sensible journalling file system, and an application that doesn't hold files open, and your worries are reduced.

    16. Re:Nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the reason that 'sync' is a common option instead of a filesystem-specific option is that some of the higher layers of code in the kernel change their behaviour when the sync option is active? This could explain the slowdown with vfat, even if it is missing the part of sync support that is supposed to be implemented in the filesystem layer.

    17. Re:Nice, but... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

      You know.. An ALT+SYSRQ+S should also synch disks ;-)

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  14. Re:I submitted this 2 weeks ago! by phalse+phace · · Score: 2, Funny

    submit it again. maybe they'll do a dupe on it.

  15. Paradigm by j1bb3rj4bb3r · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would like to see this done for many different apps (browser, email, IM, blah blah), basically anything that requires user preferences... package a small binary and the preferences together such that they can run off the USB drive. With more and more people owning/working with multiple machines, this would be really useful.

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    1. Re:Paradigm by Photar · · Score: 1

      Agreed, all applications should be self contained. At least to a directory.

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    2. Re:Paradigm by starwed · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Presumably it's only a matter of time until we just have our operating systems and data all on a portable drive of some sort. (Yeah, you can do that now, but it's not the norm.)

      Schools and libraries could just provide a basic machine w/o a hard drive or operating system... granted the school I went to in 7th grade did this, but USB drives are a lot handier than floppies. :)

    3. Re:Paradigm by Lazyhound · · Score: 1
      I would like to see this done for many different apps (browser, email, IM, blah blah),

      Try Trillian Anywhere.

    4. Re:Paradigm by georgevulov · · Score: 1

      I'm actually working on a portable IM client. It currently only supports AIM, but it has all the vital features and is only 700k. It has the option of saving settings to a file rather than the registry, so it's perfect for USB drives.

      If you want to try it, check out the latest beta here: http://terraim.sf.net/TerraIM.exe

      The website is http://terraim.sourceforge.net, but the release on the site is a little out of date.
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    5. Re:Paradigm by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Forget about USB drives. I want a server where I have all my applications in some format like Java, XML, or something simular. Then I can hop on any computer, point their web browser to my server, and instantly have my email, IM, and whatever else I have stored on there. Preferably the server would be my computer at home, and so when I'm on my home computer I would have more advanced versions of the same applications. But my guess is this will never happen.

    6. Re:Paradigm by CritterNYC · · Score: 2, Informative
      I would like to see this done for many different apps (browser, email, IM, blah blah), basically anything that requires user preferences... package a small binary and the preferences together such that they can run off the USB drive. With more and more people owning/working with multiple machines, this would be really useful.

      Well, I've got you part of the way already:
      To that, you can add:

      More will be forthcoming, I'm sure.
  16. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by f4llenang3l · · Score: 5, Informative

    Honestly, have you actually tried Firefox? It loads quickly, and it doesn't require any configuring, at least on my machine, aside from standard installation-type stuff, it didn't. Unlike IE, though, it has several bonuses: You can configure it to do all kinds of cool and useful things if you're a Morlock instead of an Eloi (thank you Neal Stephenson), using any of a variety of useful tools; it comes with tabbed browsing; and it's pretty much adware-spyware-popup proof, unlike IE, every version of which (until XP SP 2) came with a handy "Always Trust Content from the Gator Corporation" checkbox. Bottom line is, Firefox is a much more flexible, streamlined browser, to suit a variety of needs, including those of the eloi who don't want to mess with all the messy details behind the pretty pictures on the screen. Comparatively, IE doesn't allow nearly as much useful flexibility, although you can get the Google toolbar if you are hard up (though that basically comes integrated in Firefox).

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  17. Still Windows Only? by Noksagt · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the MozillaZine Forum, many discussed putting the win32 and linux binaries on a single stick & having them share profiles. Might as well throw in the Mac binaries too & then you'd have something really useful!

    1. Re:Still Windows Only? by frostman · · Score: 1

      I'm soooo waiting for someone to do that (and too lazy to do it myself).

      I work on 'doze, Linux and OS X. I dream of having *one* copy of all my mail and bookmarks etc on a USB drive, and FF+extensions and TB+extensions for all three platforms on the same drive.

      I bet someone could make money selling drives with that pre-installed...

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    2. Re:Still Windows Only? by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      Even as a full-time Mac and part-time Linux user, I don't mind that Portable Firefox is Windows-only. I keep it, along with Putty and a selection of Unix utilities ported to Win32, on my USB drive for the times I'm stuck sitting at a Windows machine without an SSH client or decent browser (ie, most Windows machines). OS X and Linux already have these areas covered.

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    3. Re:Still Windows Only? by CritterNYC · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the MozillaZine Forum, many discussed putting the win32 and linux binaries on a single stick & having them share profiles. Might as well throw in the Mac binaries too & then you'd have something really useful!

      It's on the ToDo list. That's the eventual goal.

  18. does anyone know of a more unixish method? by gimpboy · · Score: 1

    I use firefox at home and at school and I'd like to sync my bookmarks and stuff. I dont feel like setting up ldap, is there an easy way to do this using rsync over ssh or something similar.

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    1. Re:does anyone know of a more unixish method? by a+little+lethargic · · Score: 2, Informative

      there is an extension for firefox (not sure how it would work on the removable version) to ftp your bookmarks down on launch and up on exit... works pretty good - called bookmarks synchronizer

    2. Re:does anyone know of a more unixish method? by Hinde01 · · Score: 1

      there is an extension called favorites converter or something. It takes the bookmarks you got on firefox, and converts it into an IE favorites folder. Then just put them on a diskette, and move them. Or get someone at home to do it if you can't get home. Only problem is that it has not worked for me yet, which is kind of annoying, cause i would like to do pretty much the same thing.

    3. Re:does anyone know of a more unixish method? by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      I should be more explicit. I dont really want to carry around something physical. I'd rather take advantage of the fact that all of the computers with the relevant firefox configs are on the internet and do the transfer transparently.

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    4. Re:does anyone know of a more unixish method? by caino59 · · Score: 1

      wow, thats brilliant - could you be more vague?

      couldn't even get it to work? makes me want to try it. are you in the pr department for the company or something that makes it?

    5. Re:does anyone know of a more unixish method? by Intosi · · Score: 1

      Try the Bookmark Synchronizer extension, available here. I use it all the time, and it works flawlessly. Supported protocols: FTP and HTTP/HTTPS (with PUT/GET, install WebDAV or mod_put for this)

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    6. Re:does anyone know of a more unixish method? by elemental23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      rsync would do it, but Unison will do it better. Like rsync, it can run over SSH and will only copy changed files. Unlike rsync, it will get you two-way synchronization, so you can change one file on one end and another file on the ohter end, and both locations will up updated with the changes. It's also available for *nix, OS X, and Windows, and can sync files across all platforms.

      Which reminds me, I haven't synced up my laptop yet today...

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  19. Re:I submitted this 2 weeks ago! by edittard · · Score: 0

    Michael's stories really are a Herculean effort. Specifically, the fifth one.

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  20. Might be nice... by david_594 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A nice touch for this would be to have the USB drives autorun launch a scrip that would identify if its plugged into its "home" computer and would then sync up its boormarks with the computer.

  21. bookmarks by eneville · · Score: 1

    I use a IMAP mail server which I can access from the outside, and the bookmarks file I keep synchronised though mailing it to myself. I have been meaning to make some java to catalog my bookmarks and keep it sync'd but I never got around to it.

    1. Re:bookmarks by maxume · · Score: 1

      see delicious. Don't get all hung up on the silly name, just go check it out.

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    2. Re:bookmarks by eneville · · Score: 1

      This looks pretty cool. I think I might give that a go. Thanks.

    3. Re:bookmarks by maxume · · Score: 1

      If you poke around a bit you should be able to find perl and python scripts to inject bookmarks.html. Also, be sure to use the posting bookmarklet.

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  22. All you need to do is use Mozilla by justinarthur · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you need to use both a web browser and an email client on a regular basis in multiple locations, then you don't need these customized builds, there is already something around for you, it's called Mozilla. Maybe some of you recent Firefox-from-IE converts have never used Mozilla or think it reminds you of Netscape (Firefox reminds me of IE). Give it a chance though. It allows you to use roaming profiles which is exactly what this article is about. You also aren't wasting your system resources like you are when you run Thunderbird and Firefox at the same time. You generally save over 30MB of RAM by just running the Mozilla Application Suite. This is because you only have one instance of the Gecko engine running instead of two. Oh, and you can plop Mozilla right onto a flash drive from the zip file builds available from the Mozilla.org Foundation.

    1. Re:All you need to do is use Mozilla by ticktockticktock · · Score: 2, Insightful
      and you can plop Mozilla right onto a flash drive from the zip file builds available from the Mozilla.org Foundation.

      Mozilla Firefox also has a zip version, but that doesn't mean you can just plop it on removable media and expect it to store its settings there automatically. It still loads and saves its settings right on your hard drive. Can Mozilla store settings on the same drive that its zip was extracted to when regular Mozilla Firefox builds don't, even if the drive letter changes between machines you load it on?

    2. Re:All you need to do is use Mozilla by justinarthur · · Score: 1

      The idea behind roaming profiles is that you do not need to use the flash media for profile storage. The profile can be on an HTTP or FTP server. There is however a "file copy" option for roaming profiles that would allow for what you describe.

    3. Re:All you need to do is use Mozilla by tepples · · Score: 1

      The idea behind roaming profiles is that you do not need to use the flash media for profile storage. The profile can be on an HTTP or FTP server.

      Doesn't help if you, like most casual computer users, can't afford to rent a server to hold your roaming profile.

    4. Re:All you need to do is use Mozilla by justinarthur · · Score: 1

      Or those who couldn't afford to read the sentance that came after the one you quoted.

    5. Re:All you need to do is use Mozilla by onicofago · · Score: 1

      Given the massive development activity on FF & TB lately and the amount of people probably using them simultaneously...

      Maybe somebody should see if these two can share one instance of the Gecko engine, right?

    6. Re:All you need to do is use Mozilla by kikta · · Score: 1

      One of the major points for doing the rewrites (FF & TB replacing the monolithic Moz suite) was to have them run in separate memory spaces. That way a FF crash wouldn't take down TB and vice-versa. So if someone did rewrite then to share a single Gecko instance, we'd be right back where we started in that respect. Moz Mail used to take down browsing sessions all the time, usually due to buggy plugins.

      That being said, there has long been plans to merge FF & TB to a certain degree and make that the new Moz suite (albeit with the separate memory spaces). While that would probably reduce the memory footprint the two currently have when running side-by-side, don't look for it to reduce by a whole lot.

  23. Re:I submitted this 2 weeks ago! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    huh?

  24. CypherXerox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy ripped this idea off first.

  25. Beach Boys by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Laugh, this is funny, not overrated

    And I'll have fun fun fun
    'til my admin takes my T-bird away
    (fun fun fun 'til my admin takes my T-bird away)

    with apologies to The Beach Boys.

    With this, he really can steal your Thunder...bird.

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    1. Re:Beach Boys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, you're a pathetic looser idiot

  26. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then you can spend hours cleaning instead, and that's so much more fun! Plus, it's so exciting to search for many more hours making sure it's ALL *permanantly* gone, what with all of Windows' nooks and crannies! Just thinking about it makes me so excited!

    What a lucky man, I wish I had all that. I would be busy for days!

  27. What size flash drive is necessary? by patdabiker · · Score: 1

    This sounds really handy. What size flash drive is necessary for both firebox and thunderbird?

    1. Re:What size flash drive is necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ive been usinga version of firefox portable and it was about 8 mb

    2. Re:What size flash drive is necessary? by aldoman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Realistically no more than 64MB, but you mightaswell just go for a 256MB one as it's only a few dollars more for a lot more space.

    3. Re:What size flash drive is necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless, of course, you have 5+ years of emails
      (plus attachments) that you want to keep around.
      That would be (in my case) at least a 512MB
      flash drive ...

      YMMV

    4. Re:What size flash drive is necessary? by uberdood · · Score: 1

      Well, if you take the time to actually click on the links, you'd see that Firefox takes about 8.6 megs when installed, and Thunderbird 10.6 megs.

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  28. That reminds me... by wcitechnologies · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A few years ago I found that portable version of Internet Explorer, that was just a single executible file.

    In light of this new portible Firefox release, I'd like to point out that Portable IE blew goats. It crashed ALL THE TIME, and lacked functional from IE (which lacks functionality anyway!).

    I haven't had a chance to use portable firefox yet, but somehow I know I won't be disapointed.

    The funny thing is that Portable IE was released by microsoft themselves

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    1. Re:That reminds me... by shaneFalco · · Score: 1

      and this surprises you how? ;)

    2. Re:That reminds me... by VeneficusAcerbus · · Score: 1

      What the hell would be the point of a "portable IE"? It comes with Windows anyway. The only versions of IE that only required one file were around 2.0 AFAIK.

    3. Re:That reminds me... by NotoriousQ · · Score: 1

      Since IE is on every windows computer, and IE does not work on anything else, the thing you were carrying is either the binary -- which is useless by itself (it does not have the renderer, just the UI) or possibly a shortcut.

      In light of this new portible Firefox release, I'd like to point out that Portable IE blew goats. It crashed ALL THE TIME, and lacked functional from IE (which lacks functionality anyway!).

      ok -- maybe it is ie light. Still the same thing. Why not just carry the iexplore.exe -- it will work anywhere too (assuming versions match, otherwise it will start crashing).

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    4. Re:That reminds me... by taloner · · Score: 1

      That remind me reading http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+t hreat+to+IE/2100-1032_3-5448719.htmlthis article where among other hilarious comments I found this one. "We take user feedback very seriously. If you have that feedback, then you should feed it back to us because we will feed it to the product team." Feed it to the product team.. right.. now I know why those people look over stuffed.

  29. lots of uses by bigbigbison · · Score: 1

    I've been using this over a networked drive in the computer labs for quite a while now and it works great. It takes a while to start over the nework, but it is nice to have my bookmarks and cookies with me whichever windows computer i"m on. And it provides a nice bit of security since the browser is on my person network space and there isn't any way the next stranger who hops on the computer could stumble on my history or anything. (sure if someone really wanted to they could, but since everyone else uses the browser installed on the computer I don't thinks that's likely)

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  30. Unison + USBKey = r0x0r by killjoe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whatever you use make sure to drop unison on your USB key. That way you can sync bidirectionally all kinds of stuff. Try it with home directory, emacs, eclipse etc.

    It's double plus good.

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    1. Re:Unison + USBKey = r0x0r by Kaimelar · · Score: 4, Informative
      Whatever you use make sure to drop unison on your USB key.

      Unsion can be found at http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/

      From the Web page: "Unison is a file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. It allows two replicas of a collection of files and directories to be stored on different hosts (or different disks on the same host), modified separately, and then brought up to date by propagating the changes in each replica to the other."

      Seems like the parent post was correct -- this may come in handy on my newly-aquired USB drive.

  31. Already done by IASmaster · · Score: 1

    I don't see the news. I already have firefox working on a USB device. It's great. Firefox does not require any registry entries by default. That being said, you can already install extensions, bookmars, etc. and such on you USB device with firefox on it.
    Old news, but I suppose lots of people don't know that you can do this already.

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    1. Re:Already Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Already done? Your copycat project came out months AFTER Portable Firefox, copied nearly all of its ideas and then didn't even give credit to the creator of fflaunch, the launcher you used.

  32. Firefox Marketing by Uukrul · · Score: 1

    Firefox project works. Thunderbird project works. But Mozilla Marketing Project it's working beyond expectatives, and not only at Slashdot: Video of ABC News on Firefox

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  33. Already Done by CypherXero · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't forget that a few other people have created portable versions of Firefox and Thunderbird, including myself. To check out my development, go here.

  34. reminds of poco mail by a+little+lethargic · · Score: 1

    the thunderbird version sounds kind of like poco mail - they have been seeling a flash keychain version of their email software for a while now http://www.pocosystems.com/home/ - they call it email voyager. works slick.

  35. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by theanonymousbrit · · Score: 1

    Props to H.G. Wells, too, of course.

  36. Will it fit? by bigberk · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're running low on space by the time you hit thunderbird, you could also try jbmail which similarly is a secure mail client that can be run straight off removable media (but is very small, 1 mb). but it doesn't share data with firefox. Hell, it doesn't do HTML either (displays as text) which may be a shortcoming or a feature depending on how paranoid you are...

    1. Re:Will it fit? by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      HTML support is indeed a feature .... which shall remain disabled on all of my machines.

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  37. Woo by TupperTrenine · · Score: 1

    Awesome. My girlfriend is getting me a Flash drive for Christmas, and I expect this will be the first thing on it :)

  38. firefox portable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using firefox portable at schol on my flash drive for about 2 weeks

  39. Unrelated: What if W2K can't see USB drive? by pdkrocul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm having a problem at work. My desktop machine was just refreshed (lease ended on old machine, so I was issued a new machine). It looks like the IT department has disabled USB devices under W2K (I'm guessing they're worried I might be too productive). If I plug in a jump drive, or a palm pilot, W2K doesn't sense it. But, if I reboot with the USB device plugged in, the BIOS will see it (and, if I remember correctly, W2K will see it after the reboot). Does anyone have an idea what I can do to enable the USB devices under W2K?

    1. Re:Unrelated: What if W2K can't see USB drive? by dzarn · · Score: 1

      One thing you might want to check is that the Plug and Play service is running (Start > Run > services.msc). If this isn't going, Windows has no idea what's happening all around it.

    2. Re:Unrelated: What if W2K can't see USB drive? by caino59 · · Score: 1

      do they let you boot from removable media?

      if so, there's a handy linux-based bootdisk that will allow you to blank out the admin (and other local accounts) password. the world (or at least the computer) is then yours to manipulate at will

      of course, this may not make management happy...

    3. Re:Unrelated: What if W2K can't see USB drive? by plover · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This is probably what your IT department did:

      HOW TO: Disable the Use of USB Storage Devices in Windows XP

      Read the whole article, it mentions several hacks that apply not just to XP. Also note: you're probably going to need Admin access to modify the file permissions or registry settings to bring it back.

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    4. Re:Unrelated: What if W2K can't see USB drive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had same problem at work. They wouldn't give me adminstrator privileges on my machine. So I quit.

    5. Re:Unrelated: What if W2K can't see USB drive? by westlake · · Score: 1
      It looks like the IT department has disabled USB devices under W2K (I'm guessing they're worried I might be too productive).

      or they might be worried about security and administration of the network. two weeks before Christmas isn't the best time to learn not to piss off your boss.

  40. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'm logging as coward cause I don't feel like lookin g up my access codes right now.

    ilmmo.com, my blog, covers this a fair bit.

    Portable Firefox, after you load flash, is the shiznit.

  41. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    your ie gets bookmarks magically between computers when you move? nice for you then troller.

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  42. How would this work with BartPE? by krammit · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm something of a big fan of Bart's Portable Evironment Windows boot disc. Native R/W ntfs support, supports McAfee command line virus scanner (with a custom gui), adaware, networking support and many other useful plugins. All in all, a great recovery tool. I wonder if this here portable firefox would work with the Bart boot disc. It would make a nice addition to an alreay powerful tool.

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  43. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by f4llenang3l · · Score: 1

    Of course, I assumed that was implied. I just didn't want to neglect Stephenson's clever application to modern technology.

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  44. w00t! I need this! by jon855 · · Score: 0

    Thank you MOZILLA.org I need this so badly, I sync my PC and my Laptop everyday and I had to resort all of sort messy and not one clean step or such simple process like they offer now. I tried it. It works very nicely. Although they're better than M$ and that's the key eh?!

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  45. This had me very excited ... by XMichael · · Score: 1

    At first I was very excited to see this, the world portable struck notions of 'lightweight' and 'slimmed' down... unforchunately not.

    I'm currently sitting here on my Sony PCG-C1X a Pentium 233 with 64 Megs of ram .. everything runs great, with the exception of Firefox...
    What ever happened to Firefox being a lightweight web browser? at 30 + Megs it's rather bloated... imho

    Yup it's great and I love using it on my desktop, but what happen to being slim and tiny?

    Dillo, not so much (-;

    Mike

  46. Centerpiece of a gift... by Spoing · · Score: 1

    I'm handing out USB flash drives this season with software pre-installed on them. Portable Firefox will be the prime app on the drive.

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  47. How about Linux/Windows sync? by RKBA · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would be more interested in knowing how to use the same email directory and profile settings with both my Linux version of Thunderbird and my Windows version of Thunderbird. Has anyone ever tried this?

    1. Re:How about Linux/Windows sync? by 74nova · · Score: 1

      read up the thread a bit:

      someone mentioned it already

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  48. Use backflip, my good man by mccrew · · Score: 1
    For bookmarks, I have had good success by not saving them to any particular machine. Instead, using Backflip has been a really great option - kind of a "bookmark respository in the sky." No matter what machine I am on, it is a simple matter of getting them over the network. No more multiple copies (each slightly different) across multiple machines.

    And they do allow you to download all your bookmarks in a format suitable for import to the major browsers.

    Backflip - highly recommended. (Not affiliated with them.)

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  49. Re:Hot damn yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure what the big bonus is to use a browser for that, when you can just put the spyware/virus cleaning programs on the key, and then install them. No waiting around for a gummed up dialer or anything.

  50. really mobile by CySurflex · · Score: 1

    what would be really usefull is being able to run Firefox from an online location, so you don't even have to take a flash drive with you - as long as your connected to the internet you have access to your firefox.

    1. Re:really mobile by ryen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      maybe with Remote Desktop or X11 forwarding?

    2. Re:really mobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that would work. the big question is where you are going to store your user data. the best solution I can think of now would be to put it in your personal webspace, and run some degree of protection (passwords at least, encryption at best)

      ps: 'useful' has one l, not two

  51. Great Combo... by jtmas83 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been using Protable Firefox for the past few weeks. This with the addition of the Bookmark Synchronizer Extension, this makes sure I always have my favorite browser and all of my bookmarks with me at all times.

  52. DLL? EXE? BAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF?
    What kind of obscure extensions are these?

  53. Can I do this with Java? by Rick+and+Roll · · Score: 1

    Subject says it all.

    1. Re:Can I do this with Java? by 74nova · · Score: 1
      Subject says it all.
      no, it doesnt. what are you talking about? what does firefox running from a thumb drive have to do with java?
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    2. Re:Can I do this with Java? by Rick+and+Roll · · Score: 1
      Have a fully self-contained Java installation for Windows. Just like having a fully self-contained Firefox for Windows.

      Man, do I really have to spell everything out?

  54. Synching firefox/thndrbird settings over a network by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there any way to synch firefox/thunderbird settings over a network? I don't want to just keep bookmark files synched, but also toolbar settings, RSS settings, history, etc. Somebody mentioned using rsync, is that likely to work?

    I like to make constant adjustments to my environment, and I keep all my linux config files (along with everything else) under verson control using SVN and then simply 'update' each machine as I move around. However, this doesn't work very well with the mozilla config directories because things change around in there too much each time I start an app. Also, upgrading versions every 2-3 months means I need to reconfigure my app each time. Has anybody kicked this problem yet?

  55. If you want real portability by uf22 · · Score: 0

    take a look at http://breasy.com. Just what the doctor ordered...

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  56. Similar project: Friedfox by paulproteus · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've made a similar project called "Friedfox". This is for when you (1) don't want to carry your Firefox around all the time and (2) can download from the Internet fairly fast. It is a small Firefox installer that installs to a Windows user's profile rather than the system, so it doesn't require Administrator-level access. In addition, I've streamlined the installer so it's a total of two clicks to install it.

    Since IE will let you "Open" programs from the web, you can instant-launch the installer by going to http://friedfox.mozdev.org/go.
    You can check out my cheesy web site for it.

    I plan to set up a separate Internet2 mirror for college students soon. I'll announce this on the mailing list within a week or two.

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  57. portable demo by rangefinder · · Score: 1

    Santa should be bringing me a USB drive, and while I don't need to sync anything, I'm looking forward to being able to demo Firefox quickly and easily. Once they see it running, it sells itself.

  58. Cool, but.. by TheTomcat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is cool, but I currently have the following setups, and I keep them pretty well in sync:

    Laptop - Linux (Primary Work)

    Laptop - Win (Primary Play)

    Desktop - Win (home)
    Admittedly, I have to keep my extensions in sync, but to keep data, here's what I do:

    For Thunderbird

    • I use only IMAPS, and keep everything on my server
    • I don't use the integrated Junk Mail controls. I did for a while, but got sick of having to start from scratch with every wipe of windows/every new install; nor do I use the filters in my mail client
    • I do, instead, use procmail and spamassassin to accomplish similar results. Spamassassin "learns" from INBOX.Junk.confirmed, every night. Procmail filters my list subscriptions, and I use this tip to keep Thunderbird in line.

    For Firefox:
    • I don't keep any bookmarks, locally, except my live bookmarks (which, again, admittedly, I need to set up on each instance).
    • Instead, I use my del.icio.us account to manage these. I then subscribe to my account's RSS as a live bookmark, and dump that into my bookmarks toolbar. This may be helpful, if you'd like to do the same.

    So with these little tricks, I'm able to keep all three environments pretty much in sync. I know, this isn't for everyone -- I don't expect everyone to have 200+MB of IMAP space, or do I expect them to know how to write procmail rules, but it works for me.

    S
  59. portable distros more interesting by mikey573 · · Score: 1

    I prefer having a portable linux distro that works on windows and linux. See PVPM

    Then again, if you are a tech who needs to download files directly to the comptuer you are servicing, PortableFireFox is probably the better bet.

  60. I have. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just move your Windows Thunderbird e-mail archive from the default location under your profile to a FAT32 partition root and point Window's side Thunderbird at it in the prefs. On the Linux side symlink your Mail folder to the equivalent folder under FAT32. Everything in Thunderbird will be happy, with the exception of the filters. Filters are defined with absolute paths and thus have different paths on Windows and Linux.

  61. A solution... by Maxim+Kovalenko · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wish I would have heard about this one sooner. I have been stuck in IE land on the PC's at my college due to the "Clean Slate" software that has ben installed on our computers on campus. However since we have a number of people running C compilers off of USB drives they havent disabled the USB ports yet. Looks like campus browsing just got a lot more pleasant.

  62. Is there a reason apps aren't directory-contained? by swb · · Score: 1

    If you *can* make an app this way, why not? It seems to make so much sense.

    Are developers just reflexively following some "How to make a Windows application: DLLs in %WINDIR%, SYSTEM32, and the Program Files Directory, 2000 Registry Entries, and a unique directory for settings"?

    Is there some valid architectural reason for it? Or is it some kind of twisted copy-protection-through-complexity?

  63. Running from read-only media? by space_man51 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does this Portable Firefox run off of read-only media (i.e. can you run it right off a CD-ROM, not CD-RW)?

    (Some people mentioned read-only USB memory above, but I didn't get whether or not it actually worked).

    Also, is there a Linux or OSX build somewhere that runs from read-only media?

    Thanks in advance.

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    1. Re:Running from read-only media? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Knoppix is a Linux build that will run from a CD-ROM. It is freely available at www.knoppix.org

  64. Seems useful by Massamune · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is really handy for those cases where you want to take your customized browser with you. Using the bookmarks off my thumb-drive I never have to worry anymore. Not to mention I can take this to the library or wherever I want and I can use firefox there isntead. An excellent idea.

  65. Demonstrations by nomad438 · · Score: 1

    I could see this being very well accepted, It will help spread firefox more, It can also be used as a demonstration tool as well

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  66. sucks with USB 1.1 drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firefox goes insanely slow when run under a USB 1.1 drive. You mind as well copy all of it to the desktop and run it there and copy the files back to the USB drive when you are done.

  67. Tried this by coolmadsi · · Score: 0

    I downloaded this a few days ago, wated to use Firefox at school becasue they only have IE there (and I prefer firefox) but the security of internet use on the network is high and it wouldnt let me use it at all. Kinda unfortunate, the portable file didnt open so I had to try the normal file which worked, but wouldnt connect to the net at all.

    On a related note, I have to say that I like programs like this, ones that can be installed onto a USB pen, it means I can sue them on pretty much any computer without installing a program over and over again.

  68. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by theanonymousbrit · · Score: 1

    Fair enough.

  69. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  70. online bookmarks/profile by craqboy · · Score: 1
    one thing i think would be awesome is if someone would create a site and plugin for firefox to pull keep my bookmarks and settings that way when i use firefox i always have the same config as any other computer.

    it gets difficult maintaining four+ computers between home and work. I know many would say use cvs or some other revision control but it would be interesting to have a plugin and whatever so firefox would pull the stuff automatically.

  71. What? by the+angry+liberal · · Score: 1

    "For the Road Warrior on the Go- If you have a laptop, desktop, and/or work PC keeping the information from Firefox and Thunderbird sync'd with each other is hard, not to mention the extensions."

    What about this is difficult? Why install a different version of a browser on a laptop? The last time I checked mine, I found it has its own hard drive, plenty of RAM, and works just about the same as a desktop system.

  72. Re:Synching firefox/thndrbird settings over a netw by Yaa+101 · · Score: 1
  73. Re:Synching firefox/thndrbird settings over a netw by Yaa+101 · · Score: 1

    I forgot to say: rsync is a distributed binary diff. You can sync everything with that...

  74. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    comes with tabbed browsing


    Not everyone wants to have sex with tabbed browsing.
  75. Firefox extensions already exist by jweage · · Score: 1
  76. We have 0.1% market we will rule the world by gelfling · · Score: 0, Troll

    Firefox is next version opensource NS7.2 which few of you liked and you laughed at for having only 5 - 10% of the market. But Firefox is new messiah so logically it will conquer the world. I'm waiting for the mothership to take us all to the promised land.

  77. works for me by wannasleep · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hi, I use it every once in a while.

    It liberated me from taking my laptop with me when I visit geek friends (there is always a free laptop I can use).
    Also, if I am in an emergency and need to read email etc. I use my usb drive that I always carry. Webmail and simply using somebody's else computer are not an option with me as I need to use ssh to forward ports, both for my private email (that I host at home) and my work email/intranet.

    Having said that, it is a little bit slow, although it may be because it is reading from a flash drive, but I can wait.
    They should be documented a little bit better. For instance, they tell you that you can only install it in the main directory of the drive, but if you simply change the .ini file you can really put it everywhere.
    I have not figured out how to handle multiple profiles though.
    All in all, I am very happy with it.THANKS!

    1. Re:works for me by wannasleep · · Score: 1

      forgot to mention that I do the same with my iPod and that I have used it so far on windows because I have not been able to work the ssh permissions correctly when I try to mount it in a linux box that I do not manage

  78. mod parent up by Barryke · · Score: 1

    before disagreeing reply's kick in plz

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  79. biggie size for a just a quarter more! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's only a quarter, and look how much more you get!

  80. Mozilla killer? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Firefox seems stable, lightweight, and full featured (for Web browsing). It's also the center of the browser development zeitgeist, and now I can use it on both my computer and my phone. So why am I sticking with Mozilla? Why shouldn't I switch to FireFox? Corollary question: why has the Mozilla team created their own toughest competition?

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    1. Re:Mozilla killer? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      I remember reading a rumor that the mozilla team may use firefox for its rendering in Mozilla 2.0.

      I wish they would do that.

      I do not know if its true.

    2. Re:Mozilla killer? by bunratty · · Score: 1

      The Mozilla Suite and Firefox both use Gecko for rendering. There is talk about porting core parts of Firefox's user interface back to the Suite (bug 255807), but that has nothing to do with page rendering.

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  81. Games on a flash drive by Knetzar · · Score: 1

    I need to start carrying around games like that. That way I can play on my work machine w/o breaking the rules and installing software :-)

  82. Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First of all, http://http.com isn't a redirect page, so you're wrong there. Second of all, the rest of your post doesn't make any sense.

  83. Netscape Roaming Access? by mi · · Score: 1
    Did not Netscape allow for storing one's preferences, bookmarks and what-not on a remote server?

    On a fresh new installation you only have to enter the URL (preferably https), and the username/password to get it...

    There is even an Apache mod complete with FreeBSD ports thereof.

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    1. Re:Netscape Roaming Access? by justinarthur · · Score: 1

      Yup, and the latest Mozilla trunk builds also support this. It's just not something found on the Aviary branch yet, and probably won't be for a while.

  84. USB bootability? by tepples · · Score: 1

    So how do I get BIOS to recognize my USB key as a boot device? Would this BIOS update get my computer to recognize it? Or do I need to put in a CD with a bootloader?

    1. Re:USB bootability? by damiam · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most recent BIOSes can already boot from USB. If yours doesn't, then yes, you probably would have use a CD or floppy bootloader.

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  85. Developer's Plans PLUS Portable Sunbird & NVU by CritterNYC · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, I guess the cat is fully out of the bag now anyway. I was planning on mentioning this on Slashdot once I got everything over on MozDev finally (my server went over my bandwidth limit last month just from all the blog and tech site mentions... first time that's happened since I released Portable Firefox back in June).

    In the past couple days, I've added launchers and instructions for Portable NVU and Portable Sunbird. Ready-to-use, fully-compressed packages will be forthcoming over the next week.

    The releases are Windows-only for now. The launcher uses the Nullsoft Scriptable Installer System at the moment, which isn't compatible with Mac OSX.

    I'm currently working on automating the full build process and switching to 7-zip for compression. Once done, I'll be releasing Portable Firefox and Portable Thunderbird in all localized languages supported by Firefox and Thunderbird.

    Future plans include:
    - Sync utility, running from the portable install, to copy bookmarks, extensions, cookies, etc back and forth
    - Multi-OS install on the portable media, so the applications will run from every computer you use.
    - Support for Enigmail/GPG out-of-the-box (Another developer has repackaged Portable Thunderbird with these included. I'll be updating my launchers to support this by default)
    - Single, combined launcher for all products
    - Full theme support
    - Lots more?

  86. ln -s /mnt/usbdrive/dot-mozilla ~/.mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Am I missing something, or can't I just symlink my .mozilla dir onto some flash drive, like this:

    bash> mount /mnt/usbdrive
    bash> mv ~/.mozilla /mnt/usbdrive/dot-mozilla
    bash> ln -s /mnt/usbdrive/dot-mozilla ~/.mozilla

    Then, tote the USB drive around, mount it and you're reading to go.

    ???

  87. Coolest project of the year by professorfalcon · · Score: 1

    Is there anywhere where I can nominate this as the coolest project of the year?

  88. Re:Is there a reason apps aren't directory-contain by aardwolf204 · · Score: 1

    multi-user machines with different preferences for each application. \documents and settings\$username\local settings\application data\$company\$product

    Its annoying, but it makes sense. If all apps were written with their settings in their own folders we would be taking a step backwards and admins would go crazy trying to support multiple users. profiles should be left up to the OS, nix or win, but it would be nice to have some sort utility to make it easier to run programs on USB drives like this.

    I'm sure we can have our cake and eat it too, its just a matter of figuring out how to code it all up. damnit now im hungry.

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  89. Re:Synching firefox/thndrbird settings over a netw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know how rsync works and I can find the url (thanks anyway). the question is whether it works to syncronize mozilla settings: all machines are changing the files, so if I fail to run rsync before running an app on a machine just one time, I now have conflicts. How are those resolved?

  90. Re:Is there a reason apps aren't directory-contain by say · · Score: 1

    Is there some valid architectural reason for it?

    Shared libraries and keeping configuration etc. between different versions of the same program.

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  91. Apparently not on Mac by dfm3 · · Score: 1

    It doesn't seem to work for me in Firefox 1.0 for OSX- entering either "http://" or "Quicktime", for example, just results in an error 404.

    1. Re:Apparently not on Mac by dfm3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Whoops... nevermind. It seems that if you connect through a proxy server that intercepts the error and sends you a "no such domain" type error page, Firefox is tricked to believing the address is valid and will not perform a Google search.

  92. Multiple versions of IE by tepples · · Score: 1

    Since IE is on every windows computer, and IE does not work on anything else

    IE for Mac.

    the thing you were carrying is either the binary

    Or a self-contained package with a different version of IE. I know that IE's rendering behavior changed from 3.0 to 4.0 to 5.0 to 5.5 to 6.0, and if there's no way, then testing a web page layout on multiple IE versions requires purchasing and maintaining PCs to run separate versions of Windows. (Or are IE 6 and Mozilla enough nowadays?)

    1. Re:Multiple versions of IE by NotoriousQ · · Score: 1

      I am not an expert on this, but I do not believe it is possible to actually have multiple versions of ie installed. I know that the QA group uses virtual machines (vmware or virtualpc or something like that ) to test stuff. Would not be surprised if they have win95 running ie4 on that instead of trying to run ie4 on XP.

      I believe that QA people for the website are now considering IE4 and NN4 to be completely dead. Not that it matters since ASP.NET is not really IE4/NN4 compatible anyway.

      As far as the Mac IE is concerned, it is a completely different codebase. I doubt that the portable IE would work on a mac. I am guessing that the "portable" ie is nothing more than a VB gui that loads up the IE activex control for rendering.

      *begin rant*

      But then again. I really do not care. It has been 3.1 years since I made the switch to full time linux, and about 2.3 since I have killed my win32 dual boot partition.

      What confuses me is the number of masochists among the windows crowd. Those are the people who know about opera and ff/gecko, and continue to use IE. I never understood them. I guess that one can make the claim that if they are exactly the same, then IE is already installed, and fully functional. But then the same people turn around, and install things like google toolbar and extensions to manage multiple windows better.

      AFAIA concerned, the only reason to use IE nowdays is to test compatibility with IE. (and windows update, speaking of which -- can't that be run inside a activex testbox (one that comes with VS) anyway?)

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  93. Re:Why don't you just use Internet Explorer? by Buelldozer · · Score: 1

    If he works for a company that uses an MS Domain and Roaming Profiles they would follow him. He sure looks like a troll, but if all he is doing is switching which desk he is sitting at (Hotelling?) inside the company it could easily be working for him. :-)

  94. That doesn't work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever used rsync? It doesn't sound like it. rsync is only used for one-way sync.

    To do what you describe, you need something like unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/), reconcile or intellisync. I use unison for my bookmarks, and it works most of the time.

    PS: I wish the idiot moderators would stop moderating posts when they don't know anything about the topic.

  95. Life of USB device? by AssFace · · Score: 1

    Any flash drive is only good for so many write actions - so I am just assuming that once you put this on the flash drive it doesn't write anything else to it while you are running FireFox from it?
    What about the cache (disabled maybe?) and what about mail in Thunderbird - that would have to be written out?

    I stupidly assumed that those things just lasted until you broke it form physical wear and tear and was editing too many files while still on the device and eventually sent the device to wherever dead flash usb drives go (the trash I guess).

    My solution is to pull the data off that I need, put it in a temp dir, work on it there off the temp dir on the computer, and then when done dump it back down onto the flash drive. This reduces the writes to the drive.

    From the sounds of it, this is not the action that the article is talking about, so I would be suspicious of increasing the likelihood of killing my usb drive.

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  96. This is news, how? by sepluv · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Must be a slow news day. I've been using the standard builds of both Firefox and Thunderbird on a portable USB drive since 0.1. All the Portable Firefox project does is to optimise builds for this (e.g.: low disk usage). Anyway, the portable Firefox project has been around since June and has been mentioned on /. before.

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  97. Popular ActiveX web sites by tepples · · Score: 1

    It has been 3.1 years since I made the switch to full time linux, and about 2.3 since I have killed my win32 dual boot partition.

    I've considered switching, but my flatbed scanner is vital to the work I do on my home computer, and SANE lists it as unsupported.

    What confuses me is the number of masochists among the windows crowd. Those are the people who know about opera and ff/gecko, and continue to use IE.

    You try getting popular ActiveX powered web sites such as TrendMicro.com's HouseCall virus checker or CartoonNetwork.com's Codename: Kids Next Door game to work from within Opera or Firefox.

    (and windows update, speaking of which -- can't that be run inside a activex testbox (one that comes with VS) anyway?)

    Most of the people you call "masochists" can't afford a one-seat license for Microsoft Visual Studio.

    1. Re:Popular ActiveX web sites by NotoriousQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've considered switching, but my flatbed scanner is vital to the work I do on my home computer, and SANE lists it as unsupported.

      * begin windows hardware rant *

      Funny you mention that. I have the opposite problem. My dad has collected a bunch of older equipment. A year old scanner, an older style webcam, and one of the first PCI audio boards.

      NONE of them work properly with windows anymore. The scanner does not register as a scanner to anything except the only application that came with it. Not a single program can use the acquire function. The webcam -- the drivers work, but apparently they have some kind of a bug, since the camera produces a much better image quality in linux. The audio board does not have a working microphone or sound out in XP or 2000. He has to change them to get them to work again. THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. This happens much slower in open source since it takes only one interested person with skill to continue the work, and if it there is not enough interest, one can be generated for a price of a beer (for a small enough update). A company can not be persuaded, since it does not care about you, and the only thing it will gain is a lost sale because you would upgrade to a new device.

      I would have never thought I would say this in this stage of linux development, but "Windows hardware support sucks totally" to the point where if something is not Windows (your version here, including language specific stuff -- had a device that came with english only drivers, and another language version of windows did not accept it) certified, it can be assumed not to work.

      So my advice to you. If the scanner is the only reason you are on windows -- it is not a good enough reason. You will probably end up upgrading your scanner at the next version of windows, unless microsoft is kind enough to get a generic driver for it out. In which case you will lose some kind of an option that the original driver had. Like maybe 600dpi support because the generic driver is not aware of this feature on your version.

      The only good thing about this is that I get the hardware.

      *end hardware and windows rant *


      CartoonNetwork.com's Codename: Kids Next Door game to work


      Not a good enough reason. There is no need to couple that with the browser. Either produce a standalone program, or allow something that is actually sandboxed. One can argue that an activex is just like a standalone, but I will disagree if only due to layman's understanding of how software works.

      Most of the people you call "masochists" can't afford a one-seat license for Microsoft Visual Studio.

      That was a sideways question. They are masochists not because they are using MS Internet Update Explorer for updating the machine, but because they are using the Internet Update Explorer for browsing the net, a thing it does not do well. Luckily there are things actually designed to browse the internet nowdays.

      The reason why I mentioned the activex testbox program is not because I wish to avoid IE, but to demonstrate how epsilon its actual involvement is. Actually I think the updater activex uses IE to render some of its interface (via external server), so it can not be run standalone. Furthermore I think that the activex testbox came with the VSS ActiveX developer edition, which IIRC was free.

      Summary: Most of the people who use IE, do not do it for the activeX, and those who do are quickly conditioned to answer no. Most things out there use flash or java anyway.

      So the answer is a simple one: If I go to an aboriginal island, and show them how to make something they desire using a suboptimal method, they will use that method. No amount of advertisement can ever change their minds. They need to actually be shown a better way. Strangely, the same thing happens, which I call an old fogey syndrome. Basically, people who have used the old method start criticizing the new one. The call everyone whippersnappers, and tell them that real

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  98. Write/erase Limitations? by Soldrinero · · Score: 1

    I seem to recall my flash drive saying it was rated for some number of write/erase cycles, on the order of 100,000 or a million. Clearly this will not be a problem for any normal use, but what about running a browser off of it? Is all that data in the cache being written to the USB drive? Isn't that going to "wear out" my flash drive? Has this been addressed, or am I just wrong about this problem?

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  99. Review of PFF & PTB by l0b0 · · Score: 1
    I've been using these since I heard of them almost two months ago. My USB device is a TinyDisk 256MB. Here are some pros and cons with regard to the original builds:
    Pros:
    • Bookmarks, settings, and extensions will follow you wherever you go
    • If the drive has a locking mechanism, can probably be used on insecure machines (I haven't actually tried this)

    Cons:
    • Having to remember the USB stick :-)
    • Slow startup
    • Bookmark insertion, moving, deleting, etc. lag at some points (1-2 seconds on my disk)
    • Waiting time after shutting down the applications before you can unplug the drive safely
    • "Manual" installation of plug-ins and extensions
    Of course, the pros are an absolute heavenly gift for many, so I believe most people can live with the minor cons.

    A few tips:
    • Get a USB drive which is fast for writing small files
    • To be able to create shortcuts to the drive, ensure that the drive letter doesn't change by going to Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Storage -> Disk Management, right-click the drive and select "Change drive letter and paths", and set to "Z"
    • It is possible to enable disk cache on another disk, but you have to purge it manually
  100. Portable Sunbird by Tristor · · Score: 1

    I wondered when this would eventually get posted to the front page of /. John Haller has also started work on Portable Sunbird so you can keep your calendars and task schedules with you on the go. It is currently at Alpha1, and is just a launcher and instructions on how to set it up, but it works.


    Portable Sunbird (USB Drive-Friendly)

    Also, although it only supports devices running embedded Linux, their is another project at the Mozilla Foundation called MiniMo (for Mini Mozilla) that allows you to run either of the Mozilla browsers on your handheld. This currently only supports ARM devices. A version of this to run on ARM/Xscale with PocketPC2002+ is probably going to be released in the future, by what I have gathered.

    MiniMo Project

    I am not sure how much of this is redundant information, as I haven't read through all the comments yet.

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  101. Even better than that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used it to prove the greatness of 1.0, impressing our admins sufficently to get it installed in the next mass-reimage of Whitman College. They have decided not to make it default (because of "IE only pages"), but nonetheless a victory that would have been harder were it not for John.

    On the same stick, I put the installer (Win and OS X (iBooks are popular on campus)), some plugins (Flash, ShockWave, etc), JRE 5.0, and a few choice XPIs (googlebar, adBlock) for which people are most likely to ask. I have found that friends somehow trust Firefox more when it comes out of my wallet than when it comes off the web. It also gives me an excuse to install it for them, and not leave anything to be mucked up during the installation process.

  102. I do this in Opera by Cili · · Score: 1

    I already share bookmarks, passwords, page styles etc between my Opera for Windows and Opera for Linux.
    ln -s /mnt/windows_c/install/opera/profile/opera6.adr ~/.opera/opera6.adr

    I think something similar can bee done with Firefox too.

  103. Addresses? by samael · · Score: 1

    What about the address book? I'd love to have the address book synching across installs...

    1. Re:Addresses? by TheTomcat · · Score: 1

      I don't care about my address book as much, but I don't see why LDAP wouldn't work.

      S

    2. Re:Addresses? by samael · · Score: 1

      Well, if someone could point me at a simple way of setting up an LDAP server that didn't require lots of idiosyncratic text files I'd really appreciate it...

  104. Search behavior by cbr2702 · · Score: 1

    But you already have the search box in the corner for that. Why duplicate it?

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    1. Re:Search behavior by jagstyle · · Score: 1

      Since I find the "I'm Feeling Lucky" search absolutely useless and I usually prefer to have a non-Google search up in the corner (ex: Dictionary.com) it ends up working for me...

      Can you think of anything it would be better suited for?

  105. Re:online bookmarks/profile MOD PARENT UP by ryandlugosz · · Score: 1

    I was talking about this idea to a coworker the other day. It seems to me that this is a no brainer - Firefox, et. al. would store things like bookmarks, cookies, and settings on a central server. The browser would read/write to this via a simple web service-style application.

    This way, all you have to do is provide firefox with a URL and it works the same on any computer that you use. I'm surprized that this doesn't exist yet in some form, although the Bookmarks Sync. extension is a step in that direction.

  106. OffByOne - You won't need more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.offbyone.com/

    Got it UPXed into just 750kB. Fully HTML3.2-compatible, jpg/gif/png-support. You won't need more to download some files or seek some infos....