Okay, guys, in order to keep your argument up, you have to start watching this channel ASAP.
You see, you wouldn't normally watch these television channels anyway, right? So you wouldn't be paying for a TV in Canada, nor buying the products that are advertised, nor supporting the politicians with their public service announcements. So, since you weren't going to pay for it anyway, it's okay for you to take; it won't make any difference.
Unless of course, they find some way to count the people that are watching the online one, and the broadcaster can consider that a larger audience and charge advertisers more (not to mention that the broadcasters can say "hey look, we're broadcasting on the net. you want to advertise with us.")
But realistically, you're right: they're toast. And I hope they are. This is stealing, plain and simple.
You mean, people use non-dedicated email programs for reading mail? Bleech. Why would I give up my pine/eudora/balsa/whatever single-purpose mail client and have to deal with all the nasty side effects? Not to mention loosing all the cool mail-specific features that are optimized for the mail client, instead of just sort of being "thrown in" to match the functionality?
-Chris
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I think it's sort of misleading how it sounds like there's an exact law on the books that says "you can't do X unless you're doing Y" or whatever. As funny as these things sound, they're just examples of technicalities, and probably there are a lot more "Y"s than are given in the statement.
I meant that. You see, I've been stalking them both for years, and in order to keep the police from getting suspicious by me following them around physically, I stalk them electronically and purposely travel afar when they leave home.
I'd really like to see a lawyer say this. I have a feeling that the "personal copy" thing is one of the biggest urban legends going these days. Everyone has heard about it from a friend who heard about it....
It's sort of like those stupid warez sites that say "you can download this but you have to erase it within 24 hours" and think that they're clear of legal issues or something.
In THAT case, it's a move in the right direction for Microsoft. Any way they can make themselves more like Oracle is a way they can stick around for another six months.
Yeah, slashdot is a horrible forum for this and I know there's a dozen faqs and newsgroups, but the openbsd fans will be here in abundance and will love this chance to advocate... i hope.:)
Do you guys support Aureal Vortex and/or SB Live?
Also, I've heard about FreeBSD's linux emulation... does Open do this, too? How good is it? Can I run Netscape? How about unreal torney?:)
-Chris (Someone who would LOVE the security of openbsd on the desktop, if it were possible)
Not to be too picky, but the answers you want are what network consultants get paid $100-$200 an hour to answer. There's not ``one answer for everyone.'' I'd recommend visiting your library or bookstore and grabbing a couple O'Reilly books and other stuff from the same section and start reading. Call a couple ISPs near you (or not near you for that matter) and explain what you want to do, how much traffic you expect, and the like, and you'll notice a lot of data starting to approach an asymptote. And therein lies your answer.
(Or, just gimme a call and give me two hours and a hundred bucks. I'll set you up real good.:P )
Anyone need a network and unix/nt sysadmin in Baltimore for about ~$50K (it's a university job)? Email me for contact information. Need to be well-versed in NT, Linux, IRIX, and firewalls of some sort. Experience with cisco cat 5509's a plus.
I'm sick of the posts that go something like "CMU was violating their rights" or "the RIAA put them up to it." Get over it, folks.
Network access in your dorm isn't a right---it's a privelidge. At virtually every university with dorm network access, in order to gain access you must sign a "contract" or at least agree to some sort of AUP. Pirating software (music included) is definate breaching of that AUP/contract. You pay the price. Period. It's a shame those kids didn't get reported to the RIAA or law enforcement. The problem is that large private universities want to avoid bad press in any way possible; "there certainly aren't any illegal activities going on at OUR campus... look over THERE!" say school officials.
I digress. There are RULES. The rules are there for a reason. You may disagree with the reason, but you still have to follow them or you pay the price. If you don't like the rules, talk to the people who make them. If you talk in large enough numbers, things change. That's how America works. Last I checked, CMU was in America.
(And don't even get started with the "well, people are going to pirate mp3's anyway, why should the school stop them?" because it's NOT the university's decision whether it's illegal or not; it's the federal government. Universities stop underage drinking on campus, stopping pirating is the same thing.)
Except I've actually seen the 4 year old alien dog that birthed Oprah Winfrey's second cousin. So supermarket tabloids have more facts than AntiOnline.
I completely agree with you. I'm a network security professional who follows the cracking community at large just to know what's coming, and the only thing I've ever seen useful on AntiOnline was simply posted there from "Commong Knowledge": good password tips.
I got a lifetime membership to The Source (for god knows how few dollars) back on my Apple IIe in 80-something. That got bought by CompuServe, who honored my membership, who got bought by AOL, who honor my membership. Mmm. Gotta love it. Makes me wish I had gotten one of the lifetime memberships to National Geographic when they still offered them...
It's unfair to blame the jury. Every case in the US justice system is subject to a trial by jury consisting of peers. That's the way it was set up, and it's a damn lot better than most other countries out there. There may be times when the jury is "clueless" regarding the issue at hand, but it's a check and balance that our country set up to prevent abuse of the justice system. The solution to their cluelessness? That's what the trial is for! The side that's worried about the jury being clueless will present the information they need in a way they will understand it. The side that wants to prey on their ignorance will put up a big emotional show while ignoring the technical bit.
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What's frankenstein? Is that like Frank-N-Furter? Because that's what *I* thought of.
"In just seven days (and six long nights) I can make you a new gene pool."
-Chris
Nobody's jumping on your bandwagon, dude. Maybe you better find something that appeals to a wider audience before you go public.
-Chris
(And I do mean elitist, not 3l337)
Okay, guys, in order to keep your argument up, you have to start watching this channel ASAP.
You see, you wouldn't normally watch these television channels anyway, right? So you wouldn't be paying for a TV in Canada, nor buying the products that are advertised, nor supporting the politicians with their public service announcements. So, since you weren't going to pay for it anyway, it's okay for you to take; it won't make any difference.
-Chris
Unless of course, they find some way to count the people that are watching the online one, and the broadcaster can consider that a larger audience and charge advertisers more (not to mention that the broadcasters can say "hey look, we're broadcasting on the net. you want to advertise with us.")
But realistically, you're right: they're toast. And I hope they are. This is stealing, plain and simple.
-Chris
You mean, people use non-dedicated email programs for reading mail? Bleech. Why would I give up my pine/eudora/balsa/whatever single-purpose mail client and have to deal with all the nasty side effects? Not to mention loosing all the cool mail-specific features that are optimized for the mail client, instead of just sort of being "thrown in" to match the functionality?
-Chris
I think it's sort of misleading how it sounds like there's an exact law on the books that says "you can't do X unless you're doing Y" or whatever. As funny as these things sound, they're just examples of technicalities, and probably there are a lot more "Y"s than are given in the statement.
Just my rant for today.
-Chris
Is etoy anything like ytok? That would certainly make it time-relevant.
-Chris
You're thinking of Roblimo. He's a Charm City native (used to work for Shi... I mean.. City Paper).
-Chris
Yay Hopkins!
I meant that. You see, I've been stalking them both for years, and in order to keep the police from getting suspicious by me following them around physically, I stalk them electronically and purposely travel afar when they leave home.
-Chris
Having never even been on the same side of the Mississippi as Rob and Jeff, I'd pay for it... :)
-Chris
I'd really like to see a lawyer say this. I have a feeling that the "personal copy" thing is one of the biggest urban legends going these days. Everyone has heard about it from a friend who heard about it....
It's sort of like those stupid warez sites that say "you can download this but you have to erase it within 24 hours" and think that they're clear of legal issues or something.
-Chris
In THAT case, it's a move in the right direction for Microsoft. Any way they can make themselves more like Oracle is a way they can stick around for another six months.
-Chris
If anything, it goes to show what their execs do all day... put pictures in their little powerpoint presentations and send empty emails to relatives.
-Chris
Yeah, slashdot is a horrible forum for this and I know there's a dozen faqs and newsgroups, but the openbsd fans will be here in abundance and will love this chance to advocate... i hope. :)
:)
Do you guys support Aureal Vortex and/or SB Live?
Also, I've heard about FreeBSD's linux emulation... does Open do this, too? How good is it? Can I run Netscape? How about unreal torney?
-Chris
(Someone who would LOVE the security of openbsd on the desktop, if it were possible)
Not to be too picky, but the answers you want are what network consultants get paid $100-$200 an hour to answer. There's not ``one answer for everyone.'' I'd recommend visiting your library or bookstore and grabbing a couple O'Reilly books and other stuff from the same section and start reading. Call a couple ISPs near you (or not near you for that matter) and explain what you want to do, how much traffic you expect, and the like, and you'll notice a lot of data starting to approach an asymptote. And therein lies your answer.
:P )
(Or, just gimme a call and give me two hours and a hundred bucks. I'll set you up real good.
-Chris
Sounds like marketingspeak written by Mr. Steve Jobs himself.
-Chris
Let's hear it for uucp. yay.
!, !, you're dead.
-Chris
Anyone need a network and unix/nt sysadmin in Baltimore for about ~$50K (it's a university job)? Email me for contact information. Need to be well-versed in NT, Linux, IRIX, and firewalls of some sort. Experience with cisco cat 5509's a plus.
-Chris
I'm sick of the posts that go something like "CMU was violating their rights" or "the RIAA put them up to it." Get over it, folks.
Network access in your dorm isn't a right---it's a privelidge. At virtually every university with dorm network access, in order to gain access you must sign a "contract" or at least agree to some sort of AUP. Pirating software (music included) is definate breaching of that AUP/contract. You pay the price. Period. It's a shame those kids didn't get reported to the RIAA or law enforcement. The problem is that large private universities want to avoid bad press in any way possible; "there certainly aren't any illegal activities going on at OUR campus... look over THERE!" say school officials.
I digress. There are RULES. The rules are there for a reason. You may disagree with the reason, but you still have to follow them or you pay the price. If you don't like the rules, talk to the people who make them. If you talk in large enough numbers, things change. That's how America works. Last I checked, CMU was in America.
(And don't even get started with the "well, people are going to pirate mp3's anyway, why should the school stop them?" because it's NOT the university's decision whether it's illegal or not; it's the federal government. Universities stop underage drinking on campus, stopping pirating is the same thing.)
-Chris
And start crunching on CSC and OGR blocks while I keep doing RC5 so my rank increases! :)
CSC and RC5 are at least real contests---OGR is nice, but I'll work towards the monetary goal, thanks.
-Chris
Except I've actually seen the 4 year old alien dog that birthed Oprah Winfrey's second cousin. So supermarket tabloids have more facts than AntiOnline.
-Chris
I completely agree with you. I'm a network security professional who follows the cracking community at large just to know what's coming, and the only thing I've ever seen useful on AntiOnline was simply posted there from "Commong Knowledge": good password tips.
I hope that this interview goes belly up.
-Chris
I got a lifetime membership to The Source (for god knows how few dollars) back on my Apple IIe in 80-something. That got bought by CompuServe, who honored my membership, who got bought by AOL, who honor my membership. Mmm. Gotta love it. Makes me wish I had gotten one of the lifetime memberships to National Geographic when they still offered them...
-Chris
You mean you haven't been playing Riven: The Shorter, Better Looking Version of Myst?
-Chris
It's unfair to blame the jury. Every case in the US justice system is subject to a trial by jury consisting of peers. That's the way it was set up, and it's a damn lot better than most other countries out there. There may be times when the jury is "clueless" regarding the issue at hand, but it's a check and balance that our country set up to prevent abuse of the justice system. The solution to their cluelessness? That's what the trial is for! The side that's worried about the jury being clueless will present the information they need in a way they will understand it. The side that wants to prey on their ignorance will put up a big emotional show while ignoring the technical bit.
Sorry, but I happent to *like* America.
-Chris