If they're planning on running Linux on a supercomputer, it better have "enterprise" grade features that they've been promising us -- tested, signed, sealed and delivered.
Journaling file systems, multithreaded networking,... categories that Linux just generally needs help with. In its current state, as much as I love Linux on the desktop and commodity-grade-hardware server, I can't even imagine it on a supercomputer -- let alone the world's fastest.
My solution to that is that I just unchecked the "willing to moderate" box. I really don't give a flip about doing it myself. I wish more people would do that.:)
Strange how these comments are showing up on more and more discussions lately. Must be time to give up on moderation.:)
I think there should be three states for posts: "1" for stuff that REALLY excels. "0" for everything else. "-1" for stuff that's completely flamebait, crude, or otherwise not worth spending the time to read. In order to get to "1", a post should need several votes in its favor. To go to -1, it should only need one or two.
I realized recently that I don't even end up reading stuff past about 2, and even the twos very rarely. This is insanely unfair to someone who posted an AC comment that was very intelligent, got moderated up a point, and sat at 1 with no one reading it.
The moderation is haywire and the "meta moderation" isn't enough of a check -- I've had posts of my own that were WORTHLESS get moderated up to a 4. It's just generally not cool how people are using these points.
Open source is about giving the programmer a CHOICE. Requiring open source is just as bad as requiring closed source. Go back and read those GNU Manifestos again, folks. This is NOT a Good Thing(tm).
My first thought was, "gee, that's odd." Then I realized that it doesn't matter. It's not like any of those people are going to be able to change the internet for the betterment of their own country. Gimme a break.
A big advantage of Vinton Cerf is that he's relatively unbiased. I mean, as much as we'd all like Alan Cox on there, he's just too tied to any particular internet "faction." And since these guys (as far as I can tell) are all not part of any "faction" its better. Countries don't play that big of a deal on the 'net... get over it.
I mean, if speed was the only thing, we'd have had Alphas on all of our desktops for years, right? (Yeah, I've got *one*, but also seven x86s).
The point is, I'm certainly not going to buy any AMD CPUs until their chipsets get stabler. This isn't intended to be FUD, but every non-USA chipset design I've used in the past (VIA, SIS and whomever) have just not been as stable (even when motherboards are from the same manufacturer) as their Intel brethren. I'm going to stick with Intel and 440BX until something stabler and better comes along -- and with features that I feel I need, unlike the 810 and 820 sets.
Step one, find someone of similar social status (and would make an appropriate partner based upon both participants sexual orientation) who is not interested in a relationship, but still interested in Mutually Beneficial Activities(tm). Participate in said Activities frequently (and safely, for the record) in the name of Learning (and Enjoyment).
This will help two things: 1. it lessens the level of frustration, and 2. it will break down your inhibitions about contact (emotional AND phsyical) with other people
Then you can move on to true (and much more socially acceptable) romantic relationships.
Yeah, like most geeks know what they're looking for in a relationship? They may think that they want someone who's obsessed with computers, star wars, RPGs, but how interesting is a relationship like that going to be? And how many of them are going to come to that realization before they realize "wow, this chick slept with me, I think I'll marry her"?
Or, how many get crushes (on that goth girl at the next table at lunch (and convince themselves that's a perfect person since they have so much to talk about that's different and so much to share), and end up dating them for several months only to come to the realization that there's not a single thing holding the relationship together than "gee, this girl and I have nothing to talk about and nothing to do together, since we live in completely different worlds."
Geeks DON'T know what they want in a relationship, which is why most of their relationships blow chunks (or never even get started, for that matter). And a guide on "How To Be a Normal Human Being 101 by Roblimo, Master of Suaveness" isn't going to help them get to grips with the fact that the REAL secret to successful relationships is to:
GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GET OUT THERE AND START TALKING TO PEOPLE.
Things will happen from there. If you're in high school, sign up for clubs besides Math Team, Quiz Bowl, and the Honor Society. Join a sport (track is always recruiting), or the theatre group (and don't just be a techie, TRY out for a part, for Pete's sake), or anything artsy. If you're in college, go to meetings besides the comic/sci-fi/fantasy club. While Killer and Magic: The Gathering may be a great game to play on weekends, there are much more fun ways to be spending your time that involve the Real World.
Okay, I've had enough of the moderation system. Here I go posting something where I'm mostly talking out of my ass (and I even say it in the post), and it gets a +1 "informative".
This is bullshit. Find better things to click on, folks.
Thus is the story in just about EVERY article on the brain. And that's how the scientists are, too. I work in a large neuroscience department (as a sysadmin, certainly not a researcher... although I wouldn't be surprised if I've been a subject unknowingly...:> ) and there isn't a single pair of doctors or grad students in the place that have the same "theory" about any aspect of how the brain works, is structured, or anything else.
When will people realize that MS doesn't matter? Anything they do at this point is too little, too late. The future of information technology doesn't have ANY place for them and their current product models. The DOD trial and "Linux competition" aside, in three years it won't matter WHAT Microsoft is doing unless they abandon all their products now, or at least re-work them for the next wave.
Larry Ellison is right: it will be all about weak/cheap clients and beefcake centralized services. There will be one fiber running to everyone's house (provided by companies that look like telcos combined with cable companies) and over that you will access data in any form you want. A "Telephone" in your kitchen, "Television" in the family room, email from your palm-based device (eventually a more appropriate interface: voice or otherwise), and any other sort of data acquisition/modification from other specialized devices.
You'll still have your video game device (the merger of console and pc), and something to write documents on (of course, by that point there'll be little need to make a hardcopy, but the provisions will be there), both consisting of simpler, more usable software stored in firmware, with modular elements loaded from the "Internet." (Which is where the successor to Java steps in... hardware/platform independent software that (by then) will perform well.)
The only possible product have even a niche need is WinCE, which probably won't survive given real competition -- it wasn't developed with the future mindset in consideration. They'll wither away as they try to include more and more features in it, when the world will be moving towards two things: 1. more appropriate interfaces for computing and 2. usable software that doesn't need to be "learned" the way today's does.
Today's computing is klunky, ugly, and expensive in terms of time needed to do things, space, electricity, and actual hardware/software costs.
The future of "computing" isn't bigger, better, and flashier... it's completely transparent.
No, I want to be able to use the TCP stack that people use for telnetting from their palm over a modem. It can't be too much to ask for.. an ethernet controller is easier to implement than a modem that has to do DSP.
I don't want to have to install a DHCP server, but I'll deal with that. I don't want to just hotsync to my main machine.
Yeah, that's what it *started* as down here (yay Paul Revere and company), but nowadays our friendly government (via the always-correct-on-terminology media) thinks that someone will get the same sorts of revolutionary ideas in his/her head that were originally directed at Britain by folks named Washington, Jefferson, Weishaupt, Adams, and company.
I've long thought the only thing missing on a palm is ethernet connectivity. I don't want to shell out $200 for a modem when every single place I have access to a telephone line I also have access to a LAN. (MMmm... the joys of being a college student and a sysadmin)
Now, if only my Palm V had a way to upgrade...
-Chris (Watches as his post gets moderated down for redundancy)
Hmm, I see, on their list of recent and upcoming titles:
The Fearless Shopper (arguably an aspect of finance/economics) Adventure of Food (diets of other cultures) Several books on cancer, leukemia, psychological disorders (significant aspects of hygeine) Testosterone Planet (hehehe..sex...hehehe)
..as well as several travel books. They ARE diversifying. And they've been for a while: look at their full product index sometime. Sure, we can't live by O'Reilly's words yet. Give it a few more months.:)
Linkwa, pink dama, arf muzheek. Rintintinambulation. Alla da peepholes enda voold, enda looniverse, cargo a schlong ender hertz. Epp, dat schlog arf Unamunda.
Anyone else notice that their releases tend to occur *immediately* after RedHat makes their CD image? Just in time so that it can't go on the next OS release. Something MUST be afoot. fnord
And at this point, linux is a BETTER gaming platform. NT and 95/98 have a fractured gaming API base (directx 3 vs directx 7... don't get started about hacking sp5 to allow dx7, that's not the point). 98 supports USB. NT supports SMP. 98 will let you do multihead support with damn near any pair of cards. Under NT, you can do it.. sometimes. Everyone tells us Win2K will be the euphoric combination, but no one tells us when it will arive.
Linux? SMP, USB, and multi-monitor support. RIGHT NOW. Sure, our sound drivers may cost $20, but beyond the price of the OS media and the game you want, that's about it. Okay, so XF86 pre-4.0 doesn't support your card yet. But it supports the cards gamers have and want to use. And the things that are broken or flakey right now will be acellerated now that money from the gaming industry is flowing into the linux marketshare.
(What? You don't think the gaming industry is loaded enough? Who's racing lamborghinis and ferraris in Dallas, again, while employees in Redmond are still waiting for their humvees?)
Eh, whatever. I'll go back to sysadmining now instead of talking out of my ass.
Lab tests may be one thing, but I know for a fact that the multimode fiber strung all over our campus has recently been discovered as almost worthless as we do 100mb and gigabit testing.
So what if their lab equipment can get 80 different wavelengths over a fiber? If we can only run one beam over a piece of fiber 1000 yards long, how are they going to jam them into a strand 1000 miles long? Hmpf.
The scary thing is that the thing you typed is exactly what I saw... I've become all Matrix-like in my viewing of control characters. Ugh. Time to step away from the computer and get some sleep.
(I'm a third year EE major who hangs out with too many CS people for my own good. Take this with a grain of salt or several. Yeah, I can program, but I can't stand it. I'll design the hardware, then pay you to write the apps for it. [EG] )
I recommend finding the best darn CS program you can get into, like Berkeley, MIT, Stanford or CMU (just to name some off the top of my head). Take the theory classes (like everyone talks about in the other threads) and go to town learning how to develop algorithms, how to manage memory and how to PROPERLY organize "stuff" into a database.
While you're doing that, get a job on campus as a lackey (or if you have experience, as a real position) for a department's network and/or servers. Don't be an NT waterboy; take advantage of the fact that all these departments are running Solaris, IRIX, and other unices you've never seen before. Learn how to admin in a research environment where outages don't cost billions of dollars or lives or anything major, just that Dr. Smith can't check his email that evening.
You get the theory (which makes you a better programmer, DB admin, or network designer) along side real world experience (which is what makes you stand out from the kid who got a 0.2 better GPA than you who's graduating from the same program). You win on both fronts.
I'm currently net/sysadmin for the campus neuroscience department and still have enough time to participate in extracurriculars, keep grades up, and have a life. If you budget your time well and ******grab EVERY opportunity you can******* you will succeed in college and look good in the real world.
But (as far as the patents have shown), transmeta doesn't have some new technology that's cooler than printing something on silicon. The real step is finding some thing besides semiconductors to make transistors out of. Or, basically, repeat what happened in the 40's when they came up with transistors to replace "bulky, expensive, heat-generating" vacuub tubes. What we need now is something smaller, cheaper, less power-consuming, and cooler than transistors that we can use in the same respects. Therin lies the future.
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If they're planning on running Linux on a supercomputer, it better have "enterprise" grade features that they've been promising us -- tested, signed, sealed and delivered.
... categories that Linux just generally needs help with. In its current state, as much as I love Linux on the desktop and commodity-grade-hardware server, I can't even imagine it on a supercomputer -- let alone the world's fastest.
Journaling file systems, multithreaded networking,
-Chris
My solution to that is that I just unchecked the "willing to moderate" box. I really don't give a flip about doing it myself. I wish more people would do that. :)
-Chris
Strange how these comments are showing up on more and more discussions lately. Must be time to give up on moderation. :)
I think there should be three states for posts:
"1" for stuff that REALLY excels. "0" for everything else. "-1" for stuff that's completely flamebait, crude, or otherwise not worth spending the time to read. In order to get to "1", a post should need several votes in its favor. To go to -1, it should only need one or two.
I realized recently that I don't even end up reading stuff past about 2, and even the twos very rarely. This is insanely unfair to someone who posted an AC comment that was very intelligent, got moderated up a point, and sat at 1 with no one reading it.
The moderation is haywire and the "meta moderation" isn't enough of a check -- I've had posts of my own that were WORTHLESS get moderated up to a 4. It's just generally not cool how people are using these points.
-Chris
Open source is about giving the programmer a CHOICE. Requiring open source is just as bad as requiring closed source. Go back and read those GNU Manifestos again, folks. This is NOT a Good Thing(tm).
-Chris
My first thought was, "gee, that's odd." Then I realized that it doesn't matter. It's not like any of those people are going to be able to change the internet for the betterment of their own country. Gimme a break.
A big advantage of Vinton Cerf is that he's relatively unbiased. I mean, as much as we'd all like Alan Cox on there, he's just too tied to any particular internet "faction." And since these guys (as far as I can tell) are all not part of any "faction" its better. Countries don't play that big of a deal on the 'net... get over it.
-Chris
Man, I am reasonably sure I'd pay for code like that. Want to find the time?
-Chris
I mean, if speed was the only thing, we'd have had Alphas on all of our desktops for years, right? (Yeah, I've got *one*, but also seven x86s).
The point is, I'm certainly not going to buy any AMD CPUs until their chipsets get stabler. This isn't intended to be FUD, but every non-USA chipset design I've used in the past (VIA, SIS and whomever) have just not been as stable (even when motherboards are from the same manufacturer) as their Intel brethren. I'm going to stick with Intel and 440BX until something stabler and better comes along -- and with features that I feel I need, unlike the 810 and 820 sets.
-Chris
Don't moderate this, bitch.
Step one, find someone of similar social status (and would make an appropriate partner based upon both participants sexual orientation) who is not interested in a relationship, but still interested in Mutually Beneficial Activities(tm). Participate in said Activities frequently (and safely, for the record) in the name of Learning (and Enjoyment).
This will help two things:
1. it lessens the level of frustration, and
2. it will break down your inhibitions about contact (emotional AND phsyical) with other people
Then you can move on to true (and much more socially acceptable) romantic relationships.
-Chris
Yeah, like most geeks know what they're looking for in a relationship? They may think that they want someone who's obsessed with computers, star wars, RPGs, but how interesting is a relationship like that going to be? And how many of them are going to come to that realization before they realize "wow, this chick slept with me, I think I'll marry her"?
Or, how many get crushes (on that goth girl at the next table at lunch (and convince themselves that's a perfect person since they have so much to talk about that's different and so much to share), and end up dating them for several months only to come to the realization that there's not a single thing holding the relationship together than "gee, this girl and I have nothing to talk about and nothing to do together, since we live in completely different worlds."
Geeks DON'T know what they want in a relationship, which is why most of their relationships blow chunks (or never even get started, for that matter). And a guide on "How To Be a Normal Human Being 101 by Roblimo, Master of Suaveness" isn't going to help them get to grips with the fact that the REAL secret to successful relationships is to:
GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GET OUT THERE AND START TALKING TO PEOPLE.
Things will happen from there. If you're in high school, sign up for clubs besides Math Team, Quiz Bowl, and the Honor Society. Join a sport (track is always recruiting), or the theatre group (and don't just be a techie, TRY out for a part, for Pete's sake), or anything artsy. If you're in college, go to meetings besides the comic/sci-fi/fantasy club. While Killer and Magic: The Gathering may be a great game to play on weekends, there are much more fun ways to be spending your time that involve the Real World.
-Chris
Okay, I've had enough of the moderation system. Here I go posting something where I'm mostly talking out of my ass (and I even say it in the post), and it gets a +1 "informative".
This is bullshit. Find better things to click on, folks.
-Chris
Thus is the story in just about EVERY article on the brain. And that's how the scientists are, too. I work in a large neuroscience department (as a sysadmin, certainly not a researcher... although I wouldn't be surprised if I've been a subject unknowingly... :> ) and there isn't a single pair of doctors or grad students in the place that have the same "theory" about any aspect of how the brain works, is structured, or anything else.
-Chris
When will people realize that MS doesn't matter? Anything they do at this point is too little, too late. The future of information technology doesn't have ANY place for them and their current product models. The DOD trial and "Linux competition" aside, in three years it won't matter WHAT Microsoft is doing unless they abandon all their products now, or at least re-work them for the next wave.
Larry Ellison is right: it will be all about weak/cheap clients and beefcake centralized services. There will be one fiber running to everyone's house (provided by companies that look like telcos combined with cable companies) and over that you will access data in any form you want. A "Telephone" in your kitchen, "Television" in the family room, email from your palm-based device (eventually a more appropriate interface: voice or otherwise), and any other sort of data acquisition/modification from other specialized devices.
You'll still have your video game device (the merger of console and pc), and something to write documents on (of course, by that point there'll be little need to make a hardcopy, but the provisions will be there), both consisting of simpler, more usable software stored in firmware, with modular elements loaded from the "Internet." (Which is where the successor to Java steps in... hardware/platform independent software that (by then) will perform well.)
The only possible product have even a niche need is WinCE, which probably won't survive given real competition -- it wasn't developed with the future mindset in consideration. They'll wither away as they try to include more and more features in it, when the world will be moving towards two things: 1. more appropriate interfaces for computing and 2. usable software that doesn't need to be "learned" the way today's does.
Today's computing is klunky, ugly, and expensive in terms of time needed to do things, space, electricity, and actual hardware/software costs.
The future of "computing" isn't bigger, better, and flashier... it's completely transparent.
-Chris
Imagine what their IPO will be like.
-Chris
No, I want to be able to use the TCP stack that people use for telnetting from their palm over a modem. It can't be too much to ask for.. an ethernet controller is easier to implement than a modem that has to do DSP.
I don't want to have to install a DHCP server, but I'll deal with that. I don't want to just hotsync to my main machine.
And I WANT TO DO IT ON MY V! ARGH!!!
:)
-Chris
Yeah, that's what it *started* as down here (yay Paul Revere and company), but nowadays our friendly government (via the always-correct-on-terminology media) thinks that someone will get the same sorts of revolutionary ideas in his/her head that were originally directed at Britain by folks named Washington, Jefferson, Weishaupt, Adams, and company.
-Chris
(fnord)
I've long thought the only thing missing on a palm is ethernet connectivity. I don't want to shell out $200 for a modem when every single place I have access to a telephone line I also have access to a LAN. (MMmm... the joys of being a college student and a sysadmin)
Now, if only my Palm V had a way to upgrade...
-Chris
(Watches as his post gets moderated down for redundancy)
I'm watching my palm screen and I can see a while bunch of people in suits and this lady in a red dress. Deja vu.
Whoa.
-Chris
Hmm, I see, on their list of recent and upcoming titles:
:)
The Fearless Shopper (arguably an aspect of finance/economics)
Adventure of Food (diets of other cultures)
Several books on cancer, leukemia, psychological disorders (significant aspects of hygeine)
Testosterone Planet (hehehe..sex...hehehe)
..as well as several travel books. They ARE diversifying. And they've been for a while: look at their full product index sometime. Sure, we can't live by O'Reilly's words yet. Give it a few more months.
-Chris
Linkwa, pink dama, arf muzheek. Rintintinambulation. Alla da peepholes enda voold, enda looniverse, cargo a schlong ender hertz. Epp, dat schlog arf Unamunda.
-Chris
Anyone else notice that their releases tend to occur *immediately* after RedHat makes their CD image? Just in time so that it can't go on the next OS release. Something MUST be afoot. fnord
-Chris
And at this point, linux is a BETTER gaming platform. NT and 95/98 have a fractured gaming API base (directx 3 vs directx 7... don't get started about hacking sp5 to allow dx7, that's not the point). 98 supports USB. NT supports SMP. 98 will let you do multihead support with damn near any pair of cards. Under NT, you can do it.. sometimes. Everyone tells us Win2K will be the euphoric combination, but no one tells us when it will arive.
Linux? SMP, USB, and multi-monitor support. RIGHT NOW. Sure, our sound drivers may cost $20, but beyond the price of the OS media and the game you want, that's about it. Okay, so XF86 pre-4.0 doesn't support your card yet. But it supports the cards gamers have and want to use. And the things that are broken or flakey right now will be acellerated now that money from the gaming industry is flowing into the linux marketshare.
(What? You don't think the gaming industry is loaded enough? Who's racing lamborghinis and ferraris in Dallas, again, while employees in Redmond are still waiting for their humvees?)
Eh, whatever. I'll go back to sysadmining now instead of talking out of my ass.
-Chris
Lab tests may be one thing, but I know for a fact that the multimode fiber strung all over our campus has recently been discovered as almost worthless as we do 100mb and gigabit testing.
So what if their lab equipment can get 80 different wavelengths over a fiber? If we can only run one beam over a piece of fiber 1000 yards long, how are they going to jam them into a strand 1000 miles long? Hmpf.
SHOW ME THE MONEY.
The scary thing is that the thing you typed is exactly what I saw... I've become all Matrix-like in my viewing of control characters. Ugh. Time to step away from the computer and get some sleep.
-Chris
(I'm a third year EE major who hangs out with too many CS people for my own good. Take this with a grain of salt or several. Yeah, I can program, but I can't stand it. I'll design the hardware, then pay you to write the apps for it. [EG] )
I recommend finding the best darn CS program you can get into, like Berkeley, MIT, Stanford or CMU (just to name some off the top of my head). Take the theory classes (like everyone talks about in the other threads) and go to town learning how to develop algorithms, how to manage memory and how to PROPERLY organize "stuff" into a database.
While you're doing that, get a job on campus as a lackey (or if you have experience, as a real position) for a department's network and/or servers. Don't be an NT waterboy; take advantage of the fact that all these departments are running Solaris, IRIX, and other unices you've never seen before. Learn how to admin in a research environment where outages don't cost billions of dollars or lives or anything major, just that Dr. Smith can't check his email that evening.
You get the theory (which makes you a better programmer, DB admin, or network designer) along side real world experience (which is what makes you stand out from the kid who got a 0.2 better GPA than you who's graduating from the same program). You win on both fronts.
I'm currently net/sysadmin for the campus neuroscience department and still have enough time to participate in extracurriculars, keep grades up, and have a life. If you budget your time well and ******grab EVERY opportunity you can******* you will succeed in college and look good in the real world.
-Chris
But (as far as the patents have shown), transmeta doesn't have some new technology that's cooler than printing something on silicon. The real step is finding some thing besides semiconductors to make transistors out of. Or, basically, repeat what happened in the 40's when they came up with transistors to replace "bulky, expensive, heat-generating" vacuub tubes. What we need now is something smaller, cheaper, less power-consuming, and cooler than transistors that we can use in the same respects. Therin lies the future.
-Chris