I've been seeing this idiotic story floating around now for a couple of days.
What kind of retarded system is this? They don't have tape back-ups? Why would it have to be a "Everybody turn your super-secret key on five, four, three. .."
Fuck this.
I'm REALLY getting tired of having the fear button punched in my brain. Fuck off. The internet is vulnerable. The planet is vulnerable. Everything is vulnerable. Oooooh. I'm really scared now. I'll let you scan my retinas at airports and x-ray my kidneys and I won't complain when you blow 1.4 billion dollars on police for a fake burning cop-car G20 bullshit summit. Just fuck off already.
Key cards to re-boot the internet? FUCK OFF!!! That's the dumbest TV movie plot device I've ever heard. It's as fucking retarded as that Lone-Gunmen plot where they flew planes into the world trade center. You know? The one with Bruce Willis. Do they think we're all trailer-park retards who can't tell reality from bad scripting?
So please, for the love of all that is good, FUCK OFFFFFFFF!
Steve Jobs' primary directive, (operating on the subconscious layer. . , I hope), is to dumb down humans so that they degrade into malleable monied children who don't think about any reality other than the bloopy, candy-coated dream world presented to them by Apple.
Part of that master plan was to surgically remove user interactivity from the internet, so that people can only fingerpaint, play games and communicate in twittery bursts of retard-speak.
But now two brothers from Greece might just nix that plan with their little tool which allows people to still communicate on the internet via the almighty written word. Awesome!
The Dark Side can try to numb Intelligence, try to program Minds, but there will always be a few smart people out there fucking with the system to allow the spirit to shine through. Put that on a T-Shirt and wear it.
Wow, I can't imagine that those clacking and "phoo-OOM" sounds could ever become irritating. They're just so awesome!
No kidding. After the first minute of that video, my heart was racing and my nostrils were flaring due to some deeply (or maybe not so deeply) buried "kill and destroy for being annoying" instinct.
Amiga Workbench in HTML 5! (At least a cosmetic version, but you get the idea.)
If you dig around, you'll find that somebody, somewhere who cares will have ported some version of it along. I remember hankering for one of my old and obscure Apple ][ games and I actually found the darned thing along with an emulator. (Rescue Raiders).
If the answer is no, then you let people use the pictures and stop bitching about it. It's really that simple.
Corporations are not people. I gain pleasure from knowing that another person has received something from me and that they appreciate it on an emotional level. By contrast, I feel raped when a big corporation steals from me for profit and has no interest in passing along any benefit to anybody else.
Is that rational? I think it's extremely rational. You may not, but frankly I don't care what you think. If those are the terms of the license agreement and if you violate it, you're in the cross hairs.
If I were an invading armada capable of time travel, I'd set up L. Ron Hubbard as a tar baby for morons and borderline personalities specifically to make the very notion of aliens unpalatable to regular people.
Works like a charm.
Lesson one: If you want to know what the hell is going on in the world, you have to stop letting all those pesky herd instincts tell you what you are allowed to think. (In case you're wondering, Scientology and its followers are just another dumb herd, no different than Christians, Zionists and people who watch TV and believe the bumbling authority figures on the Discovery Channel.)
Lesson two: Ideas cannot harm you. It's perfectly safe to think taboo thoughts. Your brain will not melt and so long as you don't do anything stupid, (such as letting other people think for you, or forgetting to fact check and use your instincts as you go), then you will only grow stronger for entertaining even the dumbest ideas. Those which pass muster will increase your awareness, and those which don't are discarded.
have a way to fix the problem. Thanks, brave keyboard warrior! I feel safer already. And braver. And WAY less desperate. Can't wait for the warning labels to come out. Cheers!
Yeah, because no multi-billion dollar industry has ever before considered the idea of polluting a knowledge pool with borderline personalities and general nonsense in order to give their flocks an excuse to look away from things they don't want to see in the first place. In regular ad campaigns, a variation on this theme is known as, "Astroturfing", and it works. In fact, the more a population wants to be swayed, the better it works. Any excuse to look away is welcomed with open arms. Heck, you're a case in point.
But as ever, it's your choice. Awareness isn't free, but it is optional.
1. You can accuse me of being "desperate" all you like - it automatically weakens your position because it's obvious to anyone with an IQ over 50 that you're talking out of your ass.
I'm not the one swearing and flinging around all-caps. Please re-read your posts and then look up the word, "desperate". I'm just pointing at your style so that you notice it. Your response to me doing this is increasing your intensity by several factors. If it weren't true, then why would you be having such a reaction?
2. Accusing me of dodging, and then calling my comment foolish without bothering to explain what's foolish about it, makes you look like a hypocritical twit.
If you weren't dodging, then you are quoting from total ignorance. Sorry. They looked the same. I did tell you where to research in order to find the flaw in your logic, and left it up to you, but you still demand a direct explanation here. Very well. ..
The Sun emits a lot of electromagnetic energy, this is true. But it is white noise. Chaotic signal. Cells do not respond to chaotic signals. They, however, do respond as per their apparent design parameters to coherent, steady signals in the 10 to 500 Hz range. Cell phones and other microwave communication technology modulate high frequency signals down into that range as a design function. The Sun cannot and does not do this. Hence, our EM environment is strikingly different from that offered by basic sunlight.
3. No, my computer does not connect to the internet via "cell phone tech". Unsurprisingly, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
You've never used WiFi? Good for you. But. .,
4. The phrase "It includes the accepted realities of the world we live in" is meaningless fucking babble.
No, it's not. You simply choose not to understand it. That sentence uses perfectly plain grammar. So try again and use your brain this time. If you honestly can't work out what I'm saying, then I'll try to dumb it down for you. But we both know that's a waste of my time, because you're not actually that dumb. You are, however, in denial which is (ahem) a typical desperation response.
5. The only emotions I feel while speaking to you are amusement and pity. Those are a direct result of your inability to come up with anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument.
You can tell yourself that, but your writing style says otherwise.
6. Your argument is ENTIRELY composed of logical fallacies. You have offered NOT ONE SHRED of actual evidence to support your contention that low-power RF emissions generated by cell-phones cause any harm whatsoever. You have used an argument from ignorance. You have used strawmen. You have implied conspiracies, and questioned the motives of everyone on the planet. You have done everything EXCEPT offer a rational explanation of your silly beliefs. If you're too blind to see that, don't worry - the rest of us can see it just fine.
You're yelling again. I am going to point out two things and then I am going to offer you a rational explanation.
1. All I stepped in here to point out was that the OP's position regarding evolutionary adaptation to naturally occurring EM was valid. I have offered you a chance to research why that was so on your own, and now I have explained directly why it is so.
2. You haven't asked me for anything more. You've flung around half-baked arguments against things you assume I believe. So accusing me of not providing evidence for something you haven't asked me for is foolish. In fact, you still haven't really asked me anything. You're still accusing me of nonsense. I've been waiting patiently for you to ask what my position is, but I suppose telling me that you'll walk away unless I provide you with some rational examples is close enough, so I'm going to offer the followi
Just being able to say, "ad-hominem" and "Strawman" doesn't change the fact that you sound desperate. Granted, it is a qualitative observation, but it also appears to be accurate; an observation definitely useful in trying to understand your response.
If I wanted to attack your person, "ad-hominem", I would call you an idiot and base my argument on that premise alone. I have not done that.
You're really arguing that non-ionizing radiation is safe because life expectancy (may have) gone up over the last 50 years?
Nope.
In the given context? Yes you were, or you don't know how to use your own language.
Well.... ignoring for a sec the fact that IR is part of the EM spectrum... I guess you're technically correct. I mean, we only invented sunlight a few decades ago. No time to adapt!
This is where the "idiot" part might be applied if I were feeling petty. You're dodging, and poorly. Either that, or you really have no clue what a modulated wave form is. Either way, you are making foolish comments which don't even make sense within a false frame of reference.
My cellphone spends 90% of it's time in my car. I'm on a pay-as-you-go plan, and spend about $6 a month on it. But yeah, I love my phone SOOOOO much that I want it to give me cancer. Sure. Is there ANY part of your argument that doesn't hinge on logical fallacies?
Cell phone tech includes the way your computer connects to the internet. It includes the world we walk through every day. It includes the accepted realities of the world we live in. The one you have chosen to defend with such school yard chin-jutting jeering. You are arguing from deeply emotional motivation and if you stop for a minute to look inward, you would recognize this. My question is, "why?"
Also. . . I didn't say anything about cancer. You did. That would be an example of a Strawman argument, one which has been placed in your mind without your necessarily being aware of it. That's worth your pondering on as well.
My argument has no logical fallacies that I am aware of, and I've spent years combing through this information. That is not to say there may not be some I've not weeded out yet, there almost certainly are some, but you haven't hit on any; not with your nonsense IR/sunlight comparisons. I should also point out that my comments are not coming from an erratic place as yours clearly are.
I'd say you've got some research and reflection to do before you carry on.
Assumption 1: "Alien life perceives reality and exists in reality just like we do."
Between plant life and human life there is a huge divide. We are at the top of that layer, but there is a layer above us with just as much distance between the two points. We know this because we are told this via channeling efforts by beings living on that level above us. The UFO phenomenon is not a nuts and bolts thing; it has more to do with inter-density travel. Imagine beings living in a reality where they can re-focus their awareness along any point of their personal time line at will, and manifest changes along that line. Here's another way to look at it. . .
If you took a rocket ship from earth and accelerated to the speed of light and then landed on a planet which was also moving at the speed of light in the same direction, relative to each other, you are not moving. So you land, you spend a year there, you get used to your new environment. Then you refuel, wave goodbye to your new friends and launch again, and again you accelerate to the speed of light this time relative to the second planet. So are you now moving at twice the speed of light relative to the first planet? No. That's not possible. What HAS happened is that from the perspective of observers on the first planet, you have vanished. No communication can take place between them and you. You effectively exist in a different universe. This scenario is logically possible; sure, we can't make a space ship go the speed of light, so then make it go a quarter the speed of light, and do it four times in four stages. You can in theory, using current technology, achieve the result described above.
That's a simple and ugly example, but it gets the point across. Different universes can exist right on top of one another without one being able to see the other. And with the right technology, if we follow the right procedures, we can travel between them.
UFOs pop in and out of our reality at will. They are using more advanced technology and are able to perform the trick without the whole speeding up and landing on theoretical way-stations. They are starting from that higher realm with different physical properties available to them. "Time" for a UFO is not a barrier, and neither is space. The being piloting those ships are beings of biologically advanced awareness which can think and perceive in four dimensions. To them, you are Mister Flat in Flat Land.
Actually, it's worse than that. We are cattle in Flat Land. We are like wheat or corn. We are food, and like wheat or corn, we are barely, BARELY able to even recognize that they exist and manipulate our entire world and existence. I'm sure the corn isn't aware of the farmer.
This is the reality we live in, and it is why Fermi is utterly redundant. If corn were to explore its own science and dream of the stars, it might imagine advanced life to be plants with the same basic cognitive abilities as Earth-based plant life, maybe with a few little flourishes for dramatic effect, but essentially the same. And they would dream that space-corn would want to communicate with Earth-corn, and that brotherly love would extend across the corn-verse. And that's just as ridiculous as our mammalian sci-fi dreaming.
All that "junk" DNA we carry around? It's not junk. It's the stuff which was turned off so that we would remain unaware of our full reality. The illusion of "time" is a result of that manipulation. We were planted here.
As Above, So Below. We manipulate DNA of plants as well for our food benefit. We also keep cattle for our consumption. We eat the lower beings. We are food. They just eat us in a way which we have trouble comprehending. I'm sure the corn stalk would have difficulty trying to envision the cow's digestive tract as well.
The aliens are already here, and they control the whole game from the top down, leaving the elite in charge the same way a mega corporation leaves the lowly farm hand in charge to brutalize the cows and zap them onto the trucks.
Super-intelligent and hyper-dimensional doesn't mean, "not hungry".
But for most, because they can't conceive of it, means for them that it can't possibly be true. I'm sure a field of grass doesn't understand the digestive tract of a cow either.
Oooh. I like the Sony site. It's using Javascript to animate everything with no Flash in sight. Smooth, pretty and fast!
Though, I hope Flash remains the defacto standard, not just because it's so easy to block, but also because with Flash being so easy to make, it's also the bottom rung for bad designers. I don't want bad designers taking their garbage and learning how hard-code it into websites where I can't selectively turn off or on various elements. Flashblock is great! You only turn on the stuff you need, which on a good website, usually includes nothing.
Oh yeah. And your points are spot on. Japan is the king of complexity. The article's author doesn't sound like he knows his subject very well.
-FL
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Cyclical disasters and extinctions certainly occur, empires rise and fall; there are cycles to all things.
When all the people get dumb, rude and hopeless, it's nearly always an indicator that powerful societal shifts are just around the corner.
The human population as a whole has walked around many such corners during its time occupying this globe, and I see no reason to think that this process will overlook our current time. That some ancients noted the same patterns before their own societies eventually crumbled only lends credence to the OP's observations.
The difference today, is that our high-tech society allows for a speedier realization of the process outcome.
Another way of saying it is, "If you shoot yourself, then how can you shoot yourself? It's a paradox!"
Well, actually it's not paradoxical at all. It only seems so because our perceptions wrt time are so limited.
-That, and time travel is misunderstood. There's a big difference between warping space and time with forces in the black hole range, and in picking which time frame to focus attention on.
You existed one year ago, and you exist now. That time frame from one year ago didn't go away. It's still there. We just can't see it anymore from this dimensional perspective. Like Mister 2D in Flat Land riding up an elevator up a 3D building; the floors beneath don't vanish, but from his perspective, they're just, like GONE, man!
No, they know exactly what I know: that most people are stupid easily frightened sheep, and that losing a large fraction of your customers because of an idiotic conspiracy theory is a very real hazard.
And yet, you are the one who sounds desperate. -That's what happens when you cherry pick your points and use obviously spurious logic to counter lucid observations.
You're really arguing that non-ionizing radiation is safe because life expectancy (may have) gone up over the last 50 years? Come on. Really? Most lives are longer than that sample period and the exposure levels have hardly been constant over the last half century. Compared to the poster's point, which considers the evolutionary time scale, such an argument is silly.
Infra Red radiation has been around forever, so our bodies have adapted to accept it. However, low power, modulated EM signals which have been shown time and again to communicate with cells and cause them to alter their behavior in a variety of odd ways is a brand new feature in our environment. And when people try to explore this, the telecom companies launch into the same tactical response patterns the tobacco industry used when it was suggested that their products might be dangerous. That alone warrants curiosity.
But none of that matters, does it?
Basically, you like your cell phone tech, and so it's not allowed to be bad, and any logic or evidence to the contrary must be denied because your overriding imperative, (things you like can't be bad), must stand at all costs.
Time is a result of the biological make-up of our brains.
Here's how it works. . .
There is a force, like the wind, which moves through all the dimensions, and somehow our brains are keyed to it. It regulates our conscious awareness and causes us to move focus from one frame of "time" to the next.
That force, as it strikes large objects, like planets, deforms unevenly around them (sort of how wind deforms around an air foil or how solar wind deforms around planets, except this is happening up through higher dimensions).
So then you have areas of where this 'wind' force is pushing unevenly. Objects slide into these areas of uneven force and thus we experience Gravity. Time, as we know, is skewed in a gravity well, (as per Einstein's law of general relativity), but this is only because our brains perceive "time" due to this "gravity wind" pushing forward our perception of reality from one frame to the next. Less wind, less 'speed' of time relative to an outside observer.
If we could stop our brains from riding the gravity wave, we would be able to travel our conscious awareness up and down our existence line within reality according to what we felt like focusing on.
Pretty simple, really.
A working Time Machine need involve only awareness modification, and if you kill your grandfather, you stop existing and grandpa stays dead. So there's no paradox there either.
Okay, you seem interested in really discussing this, so I'll offer the following. . .
1. I was being lazy in my original comments and in review I don't find this case a good example to take a stand on. The ground is just too squishy.
2. I DO however think that this serves as an excellent quality for any public relations efforts to capitalize on. As I've said, when it comes to spin, looking at the end results is an excellent gauge of the intentions behind these high-profile cases. The media doesn't shine a light unless there is a significant public outcry forcing the camera lens to look, (BP is an example of this), or far more commonly, in cases like this one where there is an opportunity to sculpt public perception to some desired end. The Gary McKinnon case serves several ends; it is a public display of what happens when one goes against the state. It is a means of justifying the further fortification of the internet. And it is a means to add another coat of smear to the idea of a UFO presence.
I would direct you to Richard Dolan's efforts if you are interested in reading the state of the current understanding of the UFO issue.
For your part, you have now implied several times that you work closely with NASA in some capacity and that you have some fairly high level access to security proceedings there. I'm not sure what to make of that. Are you not a bit worried to be discussing internal policy on Slashdot, especially in light of this story about computer security?
BP is just the liberals' whipping boy right now. They are riding it as hard as they can to drive hits to their worthless whiny blogs.
Oh yes, THAT'S all this is about.
You're clearly not quite used to having a full brain to work with, but don't fret. You'll figure it out eventually, but until you do, try to slow down. Telling the difference between those M's and W's can be really tough on the newbies.
After posting this information on Slashdot I got labeled a Troll and a "NUT Conspiracy" crackpot 4 weeks ago.
Yeah, welcome to my world. The only difference is that you seem to care. When you do that, you're doing it wrong and your learning cycle is going to be slowed down a lot in the long run. The ego doesn't like to let you be wrong when you are wrong, and the ego gets frustrated when nobody will admit you are right when you are right. This can make it look like you're foaming at the mouth.
Best to accept that you're going to take a ton of abuse and simply get on with life, and if the ego needs a bone to chew on, just tell it that you're not the fool in the equation and that foolish opinions don't count. (Though, it's best not to do that too often as it leads again to a lack of self-criticism.)
Really. UFO related material. Such as what? What material did he uncover? What part of his claims have any evidence whatsoever to back it up?
Hm. You appear to already be several steps ahead here, so it's clear that you are invested in the outcome of this conversation. But in the interest of completeness, his claims are summed up here, and the long version in interview form, here.
You appear to find his claims offensive. I don't. They seem quite mundane, actually. If he were going to make up a bunch of unverifiable fictions, then why not something more dramatic? Nothing he says really defies belief.
As for a honeytrap - that's an even more amusing. NASA has enough on its plate without creating honeytraps; especially honeytraps for something as obscure as UFO conspiracy theorists.
Maybe. Gary's description of the accusations laid against him indicate government fabrications. If NASA can't even make honest accusations when they have him dead to rights, then this indicates a preparedness to lie as a general feature of their operations. So. . , maybe.
The Asperger's syndrome bit is his defense, not a Government accusation. As for the persecution, he's making some very grand statements with no backing. In short, he's presenting a fiction as earth-shattering truth and expects that the public should follow along without the extraordinary proof that should accompany such claims. Little wonder the public has balked, even openly ridiculed the man.
He's making a defense which might give him the ability to avoid being jailed for sixty years in a foreign country. I'd do it too. That's not the point. The point is how it's spun. Look at the results; when it comes to the media, one must measure the final results, they are how to measure the effectiveness of the programming of the public mind. For instance, look at your own comments regarding, "Extraordinary Proof". What does that even mean? What's wrong with just regular, "Proof"? Why does proof of aliens need to have an emotional component added to it? Answer: It doesn't. That's mind programming via media again, because it sure wasn't YOUR idea. You heard it somewhere and you are repeating it without thinking it through. The manner through which it got into your head may seem entirely innocent, but the results demonstrate the intent which carried it.
Oh! A perfect opportunity for you to use the term "sheeple" and you missed it. Maybe next time.
I prefer not to repeat canned terminology. If I do that too much, I find I stop thinking and simply start spouting dogma.
Seriously though, if you're one of the "I want to believe" crowd, then you really should be supplementing that with "I need proof." Otherwise you'll be victim to any fiction that falls in line with your personal desire (herd response indeed).
I don't want to believe anything. I want to accumulate knowledge and learn to recognize patterns. There is a ton of UFO information available, provided by clear-eyed researchers. There is a ton of other material available as well from other areas of resarch. I've taken the time to wade through a lot of it, and when one cross references and cancels out the crap, there is a signal to be found. A strong one.
Gary McKinnon strikes me as an earnest man whose story fits the pattern. He may be inventing things and he is probably seeing through personal filters, (he claims that anti-gravity tech will become public domain in a few years. I disagree and think that this indicates wishful thinking on his part), but for the most part, he doesn't strike me as being too far off. But there is no proof here; just pattern. That's all I can say with certainty. -That, and the government is very corrupt, and while it contains earnest
What I find funny is that people actually believe he found UFO evidence. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. But that hardly makes all fictions truthful. And this story sounds awfully fictitious. Especially when no such evidence was ever produced.
I said "UFO related material", wording which was very deliberate, as it can encompass everything including honeytraps.
The point here is that he is being publicly, gruelingly crucified, and it seems to me that this is having an effect upon the public. Just look at the moderation I received for saying nothing false. That was entirely expected also, because that is the programmed response events like this are supposed to have upon the public.
If you take an interest in UFO's and such, then a big part of your mind will scream at you: "Okay, but expect people to categorize you with Asperger's syndrome, government punishment, public ridicule and all things bad." There have been plenty of hackers, but they even pulled Obama's name on this circus.
I find it frustrating that people who pride themselves on clear and logical thinking are so easily manipulated by herd responses.
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I've been seeing this idiotic story floating around now for a couple of days.
What kind of retarded system is this? They don't have tape back-ups? Why would it have to be a "Everybody turn your super-secret key on five, four, three. . ."
Fuck this.
I'm REALLY getting tired of having the fear button punched in my brain. Fuck off. The internet is vulnerable. The planet is vulnerable. Everything is vulnerable. Oooooh. I'm really scared now. I'll let you scan my retinas at airports and x-ray my kidneys and I won't complain when you blow 1.4 billion dollars on police for a fake burning cop-car G20 bullshit summit. Just fuck off already.
Key cards to re-boot the internet? FUCK OFF!!! That's the dumbest TV movie plot device I've ever heard. It's as fucking retarded as that Lone-Gunmen plot where they flew planes into the world trade center. You know? The one with Bruce Willis. Do they think we're all trailer-park retards who can't tell reality from bad scripting?
So please, for the love of all that is good, FUCK OFFFFFFFF!
-FL
Steve Jobs' primary directive, (operating on the subconscious layer. . , I hope), is to dumb down humans so that they degrade into malleable monied children who don't think about any reality other than the bloopy, candy-coated dream world presented to them by Apple.
Part of that master plan was to surgically remove user interactivity from the internet, so that people can only fingerpaint, play games and communicate in twittery bursts of retard-speak.
But now two brothers from Greece might just nix that plan with their little tool which allows people to still communicate on the internet via the almighty written word. Awesome!
The Dark Side can try to numb Intelligence, try to program Minds, but there will always be a few smart people out there fucking with the system to allow the spirit to shine through. Put that on a T-Shirt and wear it.
"Down with the Pod People!"
-FL
Wow, I can't imagine that those clacking and "phoo-OOM" sounds could ever become irritating. They're just so awesome!
No kidding. After the first minute of that video, my heart was racing and my nostrils were flaring due to some deeply (or maybe not so deeply) buried "kill and destroy for being annoying" instinct.
-FL
Check out this. . .
http://www.chiptune.com/
Amiga Workbench in HTML 5! (At least a cosmetic version, but you get the idea.)
If you dig around, you'll find that somebody, somewhere who cares will have ported some version of it along. I remember hankering for one of my old and obscure Apple ][ games and I actually found the darned thing along with an emulator. (Rescue Raiders).
-FL
If the answer is no, then you let people use the pictures and stop bitching about it. It's really that simple.
Corporations are not people. I gain pleasure from knowing that another person has received something from me and that they appreciate it on an emotional level. By contrast, I feel raped when a big corporation steals from me for profit and has no interest in passing along any benefit to anybody else.
Is that rational? I think it's extremely rational. You may not, but frankly I don't care what you think. If those are the terms of the license agreement and if you violate it, you're in the cross hairs.
Get it?
-FL
L. Ron, is that you?
If I were an invading armada capable of time travel, I'd set up L. Ron Hubbard as a tar baby for morons and borderline personalities specifically to make the very notion of aliens unpalatable to regular people.
Works like a charm.
Lesson one: If you want to know what the hell is going on in the world, you have to stop letting all those pesky herd instincts tell you what you are allowed to think. (In case you're wondering, Scientology and its followers are just another dumb herd, no different than Christians, Zionists and people who watch TV and believe the bumbling authority figures on the Discovery Channel.)
Lesson two: Ideas cannot harm you. It's perfectly safe to think taboo thoughts. Your brain will not melt and so long as you don't do anything stupid, (such as letting other people think for you, or forgetting to fact check and use your instincts as you go), then you will only grow stronger for entertaining even the dumbest ideas. Those which pass muster will increase your awareness, and those which don't are discarded.
Lesson three: Life is religion.
-FL
have a way to fix the problem. Thanks, brave keyboard warrior! I feel safer already. And braver. And WAY less desperate. Can't wait for the warning labels to come out. Cheers!
Yeah, because no multi-billion dollar industry has ever before considered the idea of polluting a knowledge pool with borderline personalities and general nonsense in order to give their flocks an excuse to look away from things they don't want to see in the first place. In regular ad campaigns, a variation on this theme is known as, "Astroturfing", and it works. In fact, the more a population wants to be swayed, the better it works. Any excuse to look away is welcomed with open arms. Heck, you're a case in point.
But as ever, it's your choice. Awareness isn't free, but it is optional.
Bye now, and good luck.
-FL
1. You can accuse me of being "desperate" all you like - it automatically weakens your position because it's obvious to anyone with an IQ over 50 that you're talking out of your ass.
I'm not the one swearing and flinging around all-caps. Please re-read your posts and then look up the word, "desperate". I'm just pointing at your style so that you notice it. Your response to me doing this is increasing your intensity by several factors. If it weren't true, then why would you be having such a reaction?
2. Accusing me of dodging, and then calling my comment foolish without bothering to explain what's foolish about it, makes you look like a hypocritical twit.
If you weren't dodging, then you are quoting from total ignorance. Sorry. They looked the same. I did tell you where to research in order to find the flaw in your logic, and left it up to you, but you still demand a direct explanation here. Very well. . .
The Sun emits a lot of electromagnetic energy, this is true. But it is white noise. Chaotic signal. Cells do not respond to chaotic signals. They, however, do respond as per their apparent design parameters to coherent, steady signals in the 10 to 500 Hz range. Cell phones and other microwave communication technology modulate high frequency signals down into that range as a design function. The Sun cannot and does not do this. Hence, our EM environment is strikingly different from that offered by basic sunlight.
3. No, my computer does not connect to the internet via "cell phone tech". Unsurprisingly, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
You've never used WiFi? Good for you. But. . ,
4. The phrase "It includes the accepted realities of the world we live in" is meaningless fucking babble.
No, it's not. You simply choose not to understand it. That sentence uses perfectly plain grammar. So try again and use your brain this time. If you honestly can't work out what I'm saying, then I'll try to dumb it down for you. But we both know that's a waste of my time, because you're not actually that dumb. You are, however, in denial which is (ahem) a typical desperation response.
5. The only emotions I feel while speaking to you are amusement and pity. Those are a direct result of your inability to come up with anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument.
You can tell yourself that, but your writing style says otherwise.
6. Your argument is ENTIRELY composed of logical fallacies. You have offered NOT ONE SHRED of actual evidence to support your contention that low-power RF emissions generated by cell-phones cause any harm whatsoever. You have used an argument from ignorance. You have used strawmen. You have implied conspiracies, and questioned the motives of everyone on the planet. You have done everything EXCEPT offer a rational explanation of your silly beliefs. If you're too blind to see that, don't worry - the rest of us can see it just fine.
You're yelling again. I am going to point out two things and then I am going to offer you a rational explanation.
1. All I stepped in here to point out was that the OP's position regarding evolutionary adaptation to naturally occurring EM was valid. I have offered you a chance to research why that was so on your own, and now I have explained directly why it is so.
2. You haven't asked me for anything more. You've flung around half-baked arguments against things you assume I believe. So accusing me of not providing evidence for something you haven't asked me for is foolish. In fact, you still haven't really asked me anything. You're still accusing me of nonsense. I've been waiting patiently for you to ask what my position is, but I suppose telling me that you'll walk away unless I provide you with some rational examples is close enough, so I'm going to offer the followi
lol. Mr Strawman resorts to ad-hominem. Surprise!
Just being able to say, "ad-hominem" and "Strawman" doesn't change the fact that you sound desperate. Granted, it is a qualitative observation, but it also appears to be accurate; an observation definitely useful in trying to understand your response.
If I wanted to attack your person, "ad-hominem", I would call you an idiot and base my argument on that premise alone. I have not done that.
You're really arguing that non-ionizing radiation is safe because life expectancy (may have) gone up over the last 50 years?
Nope.
In the given context? Yes you were, or you don't know how to use your own language.
Well .... ignoring for a sec the fact that IR is part of the EM spectrum ... I guess you're technically correct. I mean, we only invented sunlight a few decades ago. No time to adapt!
This is where the "idiot" part might be applied if I were feeling petty. You're dodging, and poorly. Either that, or you really have no clue what a modulated wave form is. Either way, you are making foolish comments which don't even make sense within a false frame of reference.
My cellphone spends 90% of it's time in my car. I'm on a pay-as-you-go plan, and spend about $6 a month on it. But yeah, I love my phone SOOOOO much that I want it to give me cancer. Sure. Is there ANY part of your argument that doesn't hinge on logical fallacies?
Cell phone tech includes the way your computer connects to the internet. It includes the world we walk through every day. It includes the accepted realities of the world we live in. The one you have chosen to defend with such school yard chin-jutting jeering. You are arguing from deeply emotional motivation and if you stop for a minute to look inward, you would recognize this. My question is, "why?"
Also. . . I didn't say anything about cancer. You did. That would be an example of a Strawman argument, one which has been placed in your mind without your necessarily being aware of it. That's worth your pondering on as well.
My argument has no logical fallacies that I am aware of, and I've spent years combing through this information. That is not to say there may not be some I've not weeded out yet, there almost certainly are some, but you haven't hit on any; not with your nonsense IR/sunlight comparisons. I should also point out that my comments are not coming from an erratic place as yours clearly are.
I'd say you've got some research and reflection to do before you carry on.
-FL
Assumption 1: "Alien life perceives reality and exists in reality just like we do."
Between plant life and human life there is a huge divide. We are at the top of that layer, but there is a layer above us with just as much distance between the two points. We know this because we are told this via channeling efforts by beings living on that level above us. The UFO phenomenon is not a nuts and bolts thing; it has more to do with inter-density travel. Imagine beings living in a reality where they can re-focus their awareness along any point of their personal time line at will, and manifest changes along that line. Here's another way to look at it. . .
If you took a rocket ship from earth and accelerated to the speed of light and then landed on a planet which was also moving at the speed of light in the same direction, relative to each other, you are not moving. So you land, you spend a year there, you get used to your new environment. Then you refuel, wave goodbye to your new friends and launch again, and again you accelerate to the speed of light this time relative to the second planet. So are you now moving at twice the speed of light relative to the first planet? No. That's not possible. What HAS happened is that from the perspective of observers on the first planet, you have vanished. No communication can take place between them and you. You effectively exist in a different universe. This scenario is logically possible; sure, we can't make a space ship go the speed of light, so then make it go a quarter the speed of light, and do it four times in four stages. You can in theory, using current technology, achieve the result described above.
That's a simple and ugly example, but it gets the point across. Different universes can exist right on top of one another without one being able to see the other. And with the right technology, if we follow the right procedures, we can travel between them.
UFOs pop in and out of our reality at will. They are using more advanced technology and are able to perform the trick without the whole speeding up and landing on theoretical way-stations. They are starting from that higher realm with different physical properties available to them. "Time" for a UFO is not a barrier, and neither is space. The being piloting those ships are beings of biologically advanced awareness which can think and perceive in four dimensions. To them, you are Mister Flat in Flat Land.
Actually, it's worse than that. We are cattle in Flat Land. We are like wheat or corn. We are food, and like wheat or corn, we are barely, BARELY able to even recognize that they exist and manipulate our entire world and existence. I'm sure the corn isn't aware of the farmer.
This is the reality we live in, and it is why Fermi is utterly redundant. If corn were to explore its own science and dream of the stars, it might imagine advanced life to be plants with the same basic cognitive abilities as Earth-based plant life, maybe with a few little flourishes for dramatic effect, but essentially the same. And they would dream that space-corn would want to communicate with Earth-corn, and that brotherly love would extend across the corn-verse. And that's just as ridiculous as our mammalian sci-fi dreaming.
All that "junk" DNA we carry around? It's not junk. It's the stuff which was turned off so that we would remain unaware of our full reality. The illusion of "time" is a result of that manipulation. We were planted here.
As Above, So Below. We manipulate DNA of plants as well for our food benefit. We also keep cattle for our consumption. We eat the lower beings. We are food. They just eat us in a way which we have trouble comprehending. I'm sure the corn stalk would have difficulty trying to envision the cow's digestive tract as well.
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Works for me.
I'd only add the following. . .
The aliens are already here, and they control the whole game from the top down, leaving the elite in charge the same way a mega corporation leaves the lowly farm hand in charge to brutalize the cows and zap them onto the trucks.
Super-intelligent and hyper-dimensional doesn't mean, "not hungry".
But for most, because they can't conceive of it, means for them that it can't possibly be true. I'm sure a field of grass doesn't understand the digestive tract of a cow either.
-FL
Thank you. Very well put.
-FL
Oooh. I like the Sony site. It's using Javascript to animate everything with no Flash in sight. Smooth, pretty and fast!
Though, I hope Flash remains the defacto standard, not just because it's so easy to block, but also because with Flash being so easy to make, it's also the bottom rung for bad designers. I don't want bad designers taking their garbage and learning how hard-code it into websites where I can't selectively turn off or on various elements. Flashblock is great! You only turn on the stuff you need, which on a good website, usually includes nothing.
Oh yeah. And your points are spot on. Japan is the king of complexity. The article's author doesn't sound like he knows his subject very well.
-FL
Cyclical disasters and extinctions certainly occur, empires rise and fall; there are cycles to all things.
When all the people get dumb, rude and hopeless, it's nearly always an indicator that powerful societal shifts are just around the corner.
The human population as a whole has walked around many such corners during its time occupying this globe, and I see no reason to think that this process will overlook our current time. That some ancients noted the same patterns before their own societies eventually crumbled only lends credence to the OP's observations.
The difference today, is that our high-tech society allows for a speedier realization of the process outcome.
-FL
Remember that cool webpage you visited ten years ago with that neat factoid you'd like to reference?
What was the web address? Can you find it again now?
Does the original web host even still exist? Geo-cities, or something. . ?
It HAS to be cached somewhere. . , right? If you spend the next hour beating your head against the keyboard, you *might* be able to find it again.
I don't know about you, but pulling up old data from the web feels to me a LOT like trying to dredge up old memories from my brain.
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Yeah.
Another way of saying it is, "If you shoot yourself, then how can you shoot yourself? It's a paradox!"
Well, actually it's not paradoxical at all. It only seems so because our perceptions wrt time are so limited.
-That, and time travel is misunderstood. There's a big difference between warping space and time with forces in the black hole range, and in picking which time frame to focus attention on.
You existed one year ago, and you exist now. That time frame from one year ago didn't go away. It's still there. We just can't see it anymore from this dimensional perspective. Like Mister 2D in Flat Land riding up an elevator up a 3D building; the floors beneath don't vanish, but from his perspective, they're just, like GONE, man!
-FL
No, they know exactly what I know: that most people are stupid easily frightened sheep, and that losing a large fraction of your customers because of an idiotic conspiracy theory is a very real hazard.
And yet, you are the one who sounds desperate. -That's what happens when you cherry pick your points and use obviously spurious logic to counter lucid observations.
You're really arguing that non-ionizing radiation is safe because life expectancy (may have) gone up over the last 50 years? Come on. Really? Most lives are longer than that sample period and the exposure levels have hardly been constant over the last half century. Compared to the poster's point, which considers the evolutionary time scale, such an argument is silly.
Infra Red radiation has been around forever, so our bodies have adapted to accept it. However, low power, modulated EM signals which have been shown time and again to communicate with cells and cause them to alter their behavior in a variety of odd ways is a brand new feature in our environment. And when people try to explore this, the telecom companies launch into the same tactical response patterns the tobacco industry used when it was suggested that their products might be dangerous. That alone warrants curiosity.
But none of that matters, does it?
Basically, you like your cell phone tech, and so it's not allowed to be bad, and any logic or evidence to the contrary must be denied because your overriding imperative, (things you like can't be bad), must stand at all costs.
-FL
Time is a result of the biological make-up of our brains.
Here's how it works. . .
There is a force, like the wind, which moves through all the dimensions, and somehow our brains are keyed to it. It regulates our conscious awareness and causes us to move focus from one frame of "time" to the next.
That force, as it strikes large objects, like planets, deforms unevenly around them (sort of how wind deforms around an air foil or how solar wind deforms around planets, except this is happening up through higher dimensions).
So then you have areas of where this 'wind' force is pushing unevenly. Objects slide into these areas of uneven force and thus we experience Gravity. Time, as we know, is skewed in a gravity well, (as per Einstein's law of general relativity), but this is only because our brains perceive "time" due to this "gravity wind" pushing forward our perception of reality from one frame to the next. Less wind, less 'speed' of time relative to an outside observer.
If we could stop our brains from riding the gravity wave, we would be able to travel our conscious awareness up and down our existence line within reality according to what we felt like focusing on.
Pretty simple, really.
A working Time Machine need involve only awareness modification, and if you kill your grandfather, you stop existing and grandpa stays dead. So there's no paradox there either.
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You are a satirical bastard with too much talent.
Thanks for the enjoyable read.
-FL
Okay, you seem interested in really discussing this, so I'll offer the following. . .
1. I was being lazy in my original comments and in review I don't find this case a good example to take a stand on. The ground is just too squishy.
2. I DO however think that this serves as an excellent quality for any public relations efforts to capitalize on. As I've said, when it comes to spin, looking at the end results is an excellent gauge of the intentions behind these high-profile cases. The media doesn't shine a light unless there is a significant public outcry forcing the camera lens to look, (BP is an example of this), or far more commonly, in cases like this one where there is an opportunity to sculpt public perception to some desired end. The Gary McKinnon case serves several ends; it is a public display of what happens when one goes against the state. It is a means of justifying the further fortification of the internet. And it is a means to add another coat of smear to the idea of a UFO presence.
I would direct you to Richard Dolan's efforts if you are interested in reading the state of the current understanding of the UFO issue.
For your part, you have now implied several times that you work closely with NASA in some capacity and that you have some fairly high level access to security proceedings there. I'm not sure what to make of that. Are you not a bit worried to be discussing internal policy on Slashdot, especially in light of this story about computer security?
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BP is just the liberals' whipping boy right now. They are riding it as hard as they can to drive hits to their worthless whiny blogs.
Oh yes, THAT'S all this is about.
You're clearly not quite used to having a full brain to work with, but don't fret. You'll figure it out eventually, but until you do, try to slow down. Telling the difference between those M's and W's can be really tough on the newbies.
http://www.slate.com/id/2173965
http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v10/n10/abs/nn1979.html
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After posting this information on Slashdot I got labeled a Troll and a "NUT Conspiracy" crackpot 4 weeks ago.
Yeah, welcome to my world. The only difference is that you seem to care. When you do that, you're doing it wrong and your learning cycle is going to be slowed down a lot in the long run. The ego doesn't like to let you be wrong when you are wrong, and the ego gets frustrated when nobody will admit you are right when you are right. This can make it look like you're foaming at the mouth.
Best to accept that you're going to take a ton of abuse and simply get on with life, and if the ego needs a bone to chew on, just tell it that you're not the fool in the equation and that foolish opinions don't count. (Though, it's best not to do that too often as it leads again to a lack of self-criticism.)
-FL
The funniest part is that over 500 comments had to be entered in the postage-stamp sized box Slashdot provides in the Idle section.
Hm. It strikes me now that the idle section fits perfectly on a phone screen. Idle indeed!
-FL
Really. UFO related material. Such as what? What material did he uncover? What part of his claims have any evidence whatsoever to back it up?
Hm. You appear to already be several steps ahead here, so it's clear that you are invested in the outcome of this conversation. But in the interest of completeness, his claims are summed up here, and the long version in interview form, here.
You appear to find his claims offensive. I don't. They seem quite mundane, actually. If he were going to make up a bunch of unverifiable fictions, then why not something more dramatic? Nothing he says really defies belief.
As for a honeytrap - that's an even more amusing. NASA has enough on its plate without creating honeytraps; especially honeytraps for something as obscure as UFO conspiracy theorists.
Maybe. Gary's description of the accusations laid against him indicate government fabrications. If NASA can't even make honest accusations when they have him dead to rights, then this indicates a preparedness to lie as a general feature of their operations. So. . , maybe.
The Asperger's syndrome bit is his defense, not a Government accusation. As for the persecution, he's making some very grand statements with no backing. In short, he's presenting a fiction as earth-shattering truth and expects that the public should follow along without the extraordinary proof that should accompany such claims. Little wonder the public has balked, even openly ridiculed the man.
He's making a defense which might give him the ability to avoid being jailed for sixty years in a foreign country. I'd do it too. That's not the point. The point is how it's spun. Look at the results; when it comes to the media, one must measure the final results, they are how to measure the effectiveness of the programming of the public mind. For instance, look at your own comments regarding, "Extraordinary Proof". What does that even mean? What's wrong with just regular, "Proof"? Why does proof of aliens need to have an emotional component added to it? Answer: It doesn't. That's mind programming via media again, because it sure wasn't YOUR idea. You heard it somewhere and you are repeating it without thinking it through. The manner through which it got into your head may seem entirely innocent, but the results demonstrate the intent which carried it.
Oh! A perfect opportunity for you to use the term "sheeple" and you missed it. Maybe next time.
I prefer not to repeat canned terminology. If I do that too much, I find I stop thinking and simply start spouting dogma.
Seriously though, if you're one of the "I want to believe" crowd, then you really should be supplementing that with "I need proof." Otherwise you'll be victim to any fiction that falls in line with your personal desire (herd response indeed).
I don't want to believe anything. I want to accumulate knowledge and learn to recognize patterns. There is a ton of UFO information available, provided by clear-eyed researchers. There is a ton of other material available as well from other areas of resarch. I've taken the time to wade through a lot of it, and when one cross references and cancels out the crap, there is a signal to be found. A strong one.
Gary McKinnon strikes me as an earnest man whose story fits the pattern. He may be inventing things and he is probably seeing through personal filters, (he claims that anti-gravity tech will become public domain in a few years. I disagree and think that this indicates wishful thinking on his part), but for the most part, he doesn't strike me as being too far off. But there is no proof here; just pattern. That's all I can say with certainty. -That, and the government is very corrupt, and while it contains earnest
What I find funny is that people actually believe he found UFO evidence. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. But that hardly makes all fictions truthful. And this story sounds awfully fictitious. Especially when no such evidence was ever produced.
I said "UFO related material", wording which was very deliberate, as it can encompass everything including honeytraps.
The point here is that he is being publicly, gruelingly crucified, and it seems to me that this is having an effect upon the public. Just look at the moderation I received for saying nothing false. That was entirely expected also, because that is the programmed response events like this are supposed to have upon the public.
If you take an interest in UFO's and such, then a big part of your mind will scream at you: "Okay, but expect people to categorize you with Asperger's syndrome, government punishment, public ridicule and all things bad." There have been plenty of hackers, but they even pulled Obama's name on this circus.
I find it frustrating that people who pride themselves on clear and logical thinking are so easily manipulated by herd responses.
-FL