Corporate desktops today have Firefox or Chrome in addition to IE. Not all, but 85% of them. You think you're the only programmer eho said fuck this I won't support IE anymore?
Many third party corporate apps require Chrome.
It is safe to put a banner warning IE will end support 2019 with a link to Chrome. By next year Windows 7 will be much smaller and those who pay for 2023 support will be a tiny sliver to ignore.
I got termed and it hurt my career because of this perception. It was a call center like environment where a new manager came in and fired 7 of us within the first week to make his numbers look good. I was fired because my call volume was 2.6 cases per day and not 2.9 and I was only 3 months in.
I exceeded my average the last month as I got used to the job and got better at it. However, he averaged training where i didn't take calls. So all the new guys were fired for being incompetent as only 1 other person hired on the team met this.
Long story short I was laid off before this and now had those 2 events and a gap on my resume which made HR freak out. I almost had to leave the technology field and to this day take temp jobs.
Understand, you need to walk in someone elses shoes before making a general assumption. Many organizations have high turnover as well and fire easily as part of their business culture.
Makes perfect sense. If something is not valuable you go cheap. If something is valuable you pay more for better quality and quantity.
There is a shortage of *qualified* software developers because of outsourcing last decade put all the skills to foreign countries while many left the IT field as a result to do better things. Now these technical debt gladden projects need to be redone and with a lesser supply.
At the end of the day the bad managers always keep their jobs during a downsizing. There jobs are off the table.
A successful gas company which I will not name here has 75% of all employees managers at their corporate office. Many have just 1 to 2 people in their so called "teams".
Everyone else got laid off and this company is still struggling to remain competitive when half the workforce sits in meetings and gets paid $150K a year to tell their 1 employee what to do!
Yes they wanted me as an outsourced contractor as I was dispensable. But not the managers where 2/3s of the staff left just sit in meetings of course.
Any large organization or even a medium one has many many business processes. The problem is people think of technology they think of the guy plugging in desktop computers and calling when one breaks.
They don't understand the value of software and automation. Some big ones do, other big ones get leaders and executives more concerned with cutting costs to boast the shareprice and don't give a shit about anyone else but their personal bonuses. Other organizations are clueless and think great ideas only come from Managers, not software.
A long time ago software used to be all in house and not through expensive PeopleSoft Oracle contracts. So it was used to automate and make things efficient. Today people use prepacked and continue unoptimized unable to see the forest from the trees of their own departments.
Business processes are continuing getting complex and software to work with it always needs updating and yes it can make a larger organization more efficient. There is a reason a company gets very large and a younger nibble competitor comes. No freaking redtape and meetings and decisions can be done by the small one in an instant.
You assume the manager is technical at all and the Finance folks who set the budgets out are aware of this. Hint, they are not.
The silly tests show basically that this potential employer is out in the mud panning for that one diamond by underpaying for the position and requiring years of experience rather than particular skillsets for the job. Another annoying problem.
As stated by another Slashdotter here other jobs in like HR or accounting all the workers are the same as there is little productivity difference between a jr accountant with 3 years experience vs senior accountant with 10 years experience. Both produce the same quality and volume of work so pay for the cheaper one.
They make the assumption with programmers too as both HR and finance set the budgets and read the resumes.
If they were valuable they would not be outsourced to India and be the first ones laid off when a recession starts. All other departments get untouched. Manufacturing and IT always get gutted first and get the least respect of any department as we are an annoying cost getting in the way of the CEO's bonus.
At least that is my experience which maybe tainted from the oil and gas industry a little bit.
I've been doing web development for nearly 20 years now and have finally decided to actually stay in the field despite the douchebag quota in the industry being through the effing roof. Stuff like PWAs and browser vendors finally getting their shit together and bring mostly standards compliant keep it interesting for me. Plus an abundance of new and neat technologies to keep things interesting. I'll just be looking for better teams in the future. You develop a thick skin and a acute sense of smell for shitty gigs and crappy web-shops.
Hey QBertino. My old XP box with IE 6 looks funny on your website. Can you fix?
If it can be fixed before Monday great because Grandma just may happen to stumble across your website and we can't have that.
IE was the Chrome of 1998. It was faster. It had more features. It was being rapidly developed. It was multiplatform. It was from a cool.com era company which enterprises loved no one got fired for picking Microsoft back then.
IE lost. It had bugs that accumulated and were never fixed. IE 6.5 was rumored to have even tabs and a download manager. It was canned so the focus could return to desktop apps. BIG MISTAKE. IE had major security issues that were never patched. It never caught up again and MS blew it big time and could have prevented Chrome from starting and kept mindshare.
Google is not slowing down or halting development of Chrome in anyway. They are working with Apple and Microsoft for things like touch support standards in their apps/HTML 5 standards. They are still making Chrome for Mac, Windows, and Linux. They share the Chromium code base! When bugs or security threats hit it they rapidly patch it. They have a whole security team and lead the internet in this area.
Now if Google had security issues, dropped platforms outside of Android/Chrome OS, halted development to focus on apps, went into maintenance mode or hid standards and subverted shit to make their stuff work only then yes I would agree it would be the next IE 6.
The Chrome bundle thing? Shit IE and Netscape did that and is part of how business is done. Not all sites are Chrome only and it is not like it owns 95% of the market yet.
The problem was while Firefox did starting to adhering to standards it had it's issues. Phoenix was fast before being renamed to Firefox 1.0. It still had some Netscape bugs here and there but was much improved. Firefox 3.0 was slow and was known to freeze with lots of plugins. Firefox 3.5 was even slower even if it did adhere to even more standards.
IE by default was quicker if you ran MS specific HTML and MS CSS and cheated by loading when the OS loaded so it appeared to load faster. People stuck with it as it just worked and it was there.
Chrome was much better. Webkit also was a much better architecture than Gecko which is why Google left Gecko and switched to webkit for Chrome OS and Chrome browser in development. Apple already used webkit for Safari and their iphone. The architecture was multithreaded and easy to embed and light. It was perfect and much needed in the age of Vista where Pcs barely had enough ram to run it.
Chrome surprised Firefox quickly too. IE 9 was the first non sucky IE browser and MS was forced to follow webstandards all thinks to Chrome's marketshare and users demanding their websites work on their iPhones.
Chrome was a better browser. I could argue Firefox was marginally better depending on which are you looked at. Most users do not know what web compliancy is. All they know is Firefox was slow, and their worksites looked funny which is why it never took more than 15% marketshare.
Webkit was a much needed improvement. Also IE 6 websites still dominated many many years after 2000 in 2007/2008 when the first iPhone came out.
Webkit was better and designed to be abstract and multi-platform unlike gecko which was why Chrome switched from gecko to webkit while it was still in alpha. Without Chrome and mobile app support IE 6 would still be here. I was one of those Firefox rebels but it was a geek thing 10 years ago. If I recall it had just 10 to 15% of the market and I had to keep IE around for some websites.
Grandma would see this site not render in Firefox and blame the browser and go back to IE which made webdevelopers scream in frustration.
Though webkit and it's blink cousin are default in all devices and platforms I think it's a good thing we the web returned to where it should be and is now an open standard. Thanks Google, Apple, and the Konqueror project for making this possible.
You make judgement about me and assume I am a broke student? I am not. I do speak on there behalf.
You asked if they can afford a $500 loan payment after graduating. My answer is a resounding NO!
You only make $35,000 to $45,000 a year if you're LUCKY as you as you have no experience nor bargaining power fresh out of school. If you don't like the pay tough no one else will hire someone without experience or skillsets in the real world. Those take years. If the job is in a major city that is jack fucking shit when you need a car and an apartment let alone a loan payment. $500 can mean 1/3 to 1/4th your monthly income after taxes before any expenses.
Many loans today are up to $1,000. College is a shitty investment for many with the current price levels.
I think you mistyped NetworkComputers:-)... the sun/netscape strategy to put JavaOS terminals everwhere.
The reason IE won was because it was a better browser if you can believe it. My opinion is not popular today on slashdot in 2018 but ask any old senior web developer? IE had less rendering bugs (if you can believe this too!!), CSS support, dynamic HTML aka Ajax, more stable, faster, and used less memory.
Without IE gmail would not be. To have web apps required ajax and or dynamic html which IE had.
Netscape grew too quickly and was frantic adding features rather than fixing bugs. NEtscape 5 and 6 were so bad that they were ignored for ancient Netscape 4.7.2. IE 5.5 and 6 were horrible too but sucked less.
Regardless times are different today. Chrome is no Netscape or IE and sets the standards... properly! It is THEE browser of this decade no doubt as nothing can beat webkit and Google is moving with rapid acceleration to keep it from dying. MS can't keep up with Edge.
If MS were retarded enough to set standards the only people who would use it are dumb corporations. I bet most web developers learned their lessons after IE 6 not to base their manhours on one version of an ancient browser these days. There is nothing MS can do as even their ancient proprietary apps can be hosted on Citrix these days if they get too crazy.
I would prefer this than an abusive police state where they can dig anything on you including PC and phone user and everyone is in a state of fear. This guy is a scum bag no doubt and I have little empathy as he lived the good life that many of us could only dream of.
Cops already are pulling over folks with shitty cars to do illegal searches as saying no is reasonable cause. This is now changing too as it was used to discriminate against African Americans.
It is silly as Linus is not a communist nor does Linus or any of the Linux developers need to be part of the Mozilla Rust team and be under their guidelines to use their products.
I am not saying moving to rust is a good idea. The reason Linux is in C is because Unix was written in C and Linux has conservative users and developers.
Right. That is so simple when you live in Chicago, New York, LA, DC, San Fransisco, Seattle, etc. To live by public transportation means inner metropolitan. That means double rents even with room mates. You need a car period. In New York you don't yet again you need $1500 a month WITH a roomate to live an hour outside of Manhattan.
Reread what I wrote? You came in 2000. That doesn't count. Today HR won't talk to you unless you already did the same job title for 3 to 5 years and have a college degree. Those that don't want an extra 4 years of experience.
How do you get that job then without experience first? Catch 22.
Where my stance is that changing an EULA to get back at someone is stupid. Voting for a different politician is smart on a given issue.
My issue also is freedom. I got flamed before for being a BSD advocate when quoting Bill Gates on the viral comment on GPL. He is 100% right as you link to software it must also now be free. RMS did this intentionally.
My point is not a flamewar on this but rather my own philospy of supporting MIT/BSD style licensing and to a lesser extent copyleft LGPL licenses is about freedom. Freedom to use software for whichever purpose encouraging a community but business use and those in certain universities can as well.
Basically it is wrong to tell somewhat else what to do on his or her computer.
SJW and socialist style RMS rants are harmful. My example is the Rust programming language. Mozilla worked really hard to promote Rust but the SJW and politics turned developers off. Why do you think Cisco and then Juniper choose FreeBSD over Linux for their TCP/IP stacks? If you want to change the world then find the appropriate avenue. I will never stand in the way of someone who wants to make money. Also I will not stand in the way of someone who wants to give his or her work away for free either. My favorite license does both of course.
All you need to do is declare student loans to be unsecured. If the taxpayers are no longer guaranteeing the loans, investors will no longer agree to finance 100k for an average student to get a degree in poetry. This will cause all the poetry colleges to lower the price of their poetry classes so that the students no longer receiving massive loans to take the useless classes. Once again students will be able to afford to attend poetry college by taking a part time job at Starbucks.
This is the free market.
The problem with that approach is young kids have 0 assets and 100% liability of the cost of the loan. They do not qualify. If they did qualify then they wouldn't need to go to college.
Some of the costs too were funded by federal and state programs too so the kid can go to Starbucks. There needs to be something but just less of it and secured on different amounts depending on the major and a force of state backing.
Well, there is this little problem with your thesis, which is that if you refuse to play the game, your children starve to death.
And what happens to you and your family if you refuse to play the game in Communist countries?
Yeah, I'll take my chances with the capitalists.
In communism man exploits man. In capitalism it is the other way around.:-)
The problem is as long as authoritarianism and power is in the hands of few it will be fucked up either way. True more have it in America than a communist country but you are still being screwed over every day. Examples is when you buy or sell stock HFT programs at stock exchange manipulate the price so you sell less and buy more. They can trade at night (which was illegal for over 100 years). You can't. Your interest rates and home loans are being manipulating and there is nothing you can do about it.
If you are not super smart and have a disability or a cancer in the US without health insurance you are fucked. I was right wing not too long ago as I watched socialist countries suffer. Then I looked today and Finland, UK, and even Canada are waaaay better to live in. My kidneys are going and I do not have health insurance at this time due to me being fired in 2017. I am employed as a contractor now as HR is too scared to give me a shot with a gap.
I would not have this problem if it was treated earlier and if I were Canadian or European.
But software in my opinion shouldn't take any role. FOSS shouldn't be more libertarian and if capital was invested to write the software it should stay closed source with a cost as well. Seems only fair. But users of either shouldn't be dictated too except for payments for the closed one.
This has nothing to do in my opinion of economic policy models. I am left wing or far left in the USA at this time. However, I agree with the right win libertarians on this.
You have no right to tell others what to do with their computers.
The exception of course is if you are paying them. More than likely you own the computers anyway and would also reserve that right as owner of the equipment. This is why I do not do anything personal on a work PC so I can still own it. But regardless, the same principle applies. I also prefer a MIT/BSD style license as well for this reason as if someone wants to make money great! If someone at home wants to learn it or use it and even contribute that is great too. I don't care.
My politics include budding out of others business unless it negatively impacts me. Yes, I oppose ICE in it's current form politically but I do not want to use software as a weapon and prefer to vote in primaries for politicians who can make a bigger impact than software no one uses.
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This is 2018 not 2008.
Corporate desktops today have Firefox or Chrome in addition to IE. Not all, but 85% of them. You think you're the only programmer eho said fuck this I won't support IE anymore?
Many third party corporate apps require Chrome.
It is safe to put a banner warning IE will end support 2019 with a link to Chrome. By next year Windows 7 will be much smaller and those who pay for 2023 support will be a tiny sliver to ignore.
It depends on the industry.
I got termed and it hurt my career because of this perception. It was a call center like environment where a new manager came in and fired 7 of us within the first week to make his numbers look good. I was fired because my call volume was 2.6 cases per day and not 2.9 and I was only 3 months in.
I exceeded my average the last month as I got used to the job and got better at it. However, he averaged training where i didn't take calls. So all the new guys were fired for being incompetent as only 1 other person hired on the team met this.
Long story short I was laid off before this and now had those 2 events and a gap on my resume which made HR freak out. I almost had to leave the technology field and to this day take temp jobs.
Understand, you need to walk in someone elses shoes before making a general assumption. Many organizations have high turnover as well and fire easily as part of their business culture.
Makes perfect sense. If something is not valuable you go cheap. If something is valuable you pay more for better quality and quantity.
There is a shortage of *qualified* software developers because of outsourcing last decade put all the skills to foreign countries while many left the IT field as a result to do better things. Now these technical debt gladden projects need to be redone and with a lesser supply.
At the end of the day the bad managers always keep their jobs during a downsizing. There jobs are off the table.
A successful gas company which I will not name here has 75% of all employees managers at their corporate office. Many have just 1 to 2 people in their so called "teams".
Everyone else got laid off and this company is still struggling to remain competitive when half the workforce sits in meetings and gets paid $150K a year to tell their 1 employee what to do!
Yes they wanted me as an outsourced contractor as I was dispensable. But not the managers where 2/3s of the staff left just sit in meetings of course.
Any large organization or even a medium one has many many business processes. The problem is people think of technology they think of the guy plugging in desktop computers and calling when one breaks.
They don't understand the value of software and automation. Some big ones do, other big ones get leaders and executives more concerned with cutting costs to boast the shareprice and don't give a shit about anyone else but their personal bonuses. Other organizations are clueless and think great ideas only come from Managers, not software.
A long time ago software used to be all in house and not through expensive PeopleSoft Oracle contracts. So it was used to automate and make things efficient. Today people use prepacked and continue unoptimized unable to see the forest from the trees of their own departments.
Business processes are continuing getting complex and software to work with it always needs updating and yes it can make a larger organization more efficient. There is a reason a company gets very large and a younger nibble competitor comes. No freaking redtape and meetings and decisions can be done by the small one in an instant.
You assume the manager is technical at all and the Finance folks who set the budgets out are aware of this. Hint, they are not.
The silly tests show basically that this potential employer is out in the mud panning for that one diamond by underpaying for the position and requiring years of experience rather than particular skillsets for the job. Another annoying problem.
As stated by another Slashdotter here other jobs in like HR or accounting all the workers are the same as there is little productivity difference between a jr accountant with 3 years experience vs senior accountant with 10 years experience. Both produce the same quality and volume of work so pay for the cheaper one.
They make the assumption with programmers too as both HR and finance set the budgets and read the resumes.
If they were valuable they would not be outsourced to India and be the first ones laid off when a recession starts. All other departments get untouched. Manufacturing and IT always get gutted first and get the least respect of any department as we are an annoying cost getting in the way of the CEO's bonus.
At least that is my experience which maybe tainted from the oil and gas industry a little bit.
I've been doing web development for nearly 20 years now and have finally decided to actually stay in the field despite the douchebag quota in the industry being through the effing roof. Stuff like PWAs and browser vendors finally getting their shit together and bring mostly standards compliant keep it interesting for me. Plus an abundance of new and neat technologies to keep things interesting. I'll just be looking for better teams in the future. You develop a thick skin and a acute sense of smell for shitty gigs and crappy web-shops.
Hey QBertino. My old XP box with IE 6 looks funny on your website. Can you fix?
If it can be fixed before Monday great because Grandma just may happen to stumble across your website and we can't have that.
Thanks as it should be a simple fix.
Not the same.
IE was the Chrome of 1998. It was faster. It had more features. It was being rapidly developed. It was multiplatform. It was from a cool .com era company which enterprises loved no one got fired for picking Microsoft back then.
IE lost. It had bugs that accumulated and were never fixed. IE 6.5 was rumored to have even tabs and a download manager. It was canned so the focus could return to desktop apps. BIG MISTAKE. IE had major security issues that were never patched. It never caught up again and MS blew it big time and could have prevented Chrome from starting and kept mindshare.
Google is not slowing down or halting development of Chrome in anyway. They are working with Apple and Microsoft for things like touch support standards in their apps/HTML 5 standards. They are still making Chrome for Mac, Windows, and Linux. They share the Chromium code base! When bugs or security threats hit it they rapidly patch it. They have a whole security team and lead the internet in this area.
Now if Google had security issues, dropped platforms outside of Android/Chrome OS, halted development to focus on apps, went into maintenance mode or hid standards and subverted shit to make their stuff work only then yes I would agree it would be the next IE 6.
The Chrome bundle thing? Shit IE and Netscape did that and is part of how business is done. Not all sites are Chrome only and it is not like it owns 95% of the market yet.
The problem was while Firefox did starting to adhering to standards it had it's issues. Phoenix was fast before being renamed to Firefox 1.0. It still had some Netscape bugs here and there but was much improved. Firefox 3.0 was slow and was known to freeze with lots of plugins. Firefox 3.5 was even slower even if it did adhere to even more standards.
IE by default was quicker if you ran MS specific HTML and MS CSS and cheated by loading when the OS loaded so it appeared to load faster. People stuck with it as it just worked and it was there.
Chrome was much better. Webkit also was a much better architecture than Gecko which is why Google left Gecko and switched to webkit for Chrome OS and Chrome browser in development. Apple already used webkit for Safari and their iphone. The architecture was multithreaded and easy to embed and light. It was perfect and much needed in the age of Vista where Pcs barely had enough ram to run it.
Chrome surprised Firefox quickly too. IE 9 was the first non sucky IE browser and MS was forced to follow webstandards all thinks to Chrome's marketshare and users demanding their websites work on their iPhones.
Chrome was a better browser. I could argue Firefox was marginally better depending on which are you looked at. Most users do not know what web compliancy is. All they know is Firefox was slow, and their worksites looked funny which is why it never took more than 15% marketshare.
Webkit was a much needed improvement. Also IE 6 websites still dominated many many years after 2000 in 2007/2008 when the first iPhone came out.
Webkit was better and designed to be abstract and multi-platform unlike gecko which was why Chrome switched from gecko to webkit while it was still in alpha. Without Chrome and mobile app support IE 6 would still be here. I was one of those Firefox rebels but it was a geek thing 10 years ago. If I recall it had just 10 to 15% of the market and I had to keep IE around for some websites.
Grandma would see this site not render in Firefox and blame the browser and go back to IE which made webdevelopers scream in frustration.
Though webkit and it's blink cousin are default in all devices and platforms I think it's a good thing we the web returned to where it should be and is now an open standard. Thanks Google, Apple, and the Konqueror project for making this possible.
Flashblock. Look it up as mine is enabled by default
You make judgement about me and assume I am a broke student? I am not. I do speak on there behalf.
You asked if they can afford a $500 loan payment after graduating. My answer is a resounding NO!
You only make $35,000 to $45,000 a year if you're LUCKY as you as you have no experience nor bargaining power fresh out of school. If you don't like the pay tough no one else will hire someone without experience or skillsets in the real world. Those take years. If the job is in a major city that is jack fucking shit when you need a car and an apartment let alone a loan payment. $500 can mean 1/3 to 1/4th your monthly income after taxes before any expenses.
Many loans today are up to $1,000. College is a shitty investment for many with the current price levels.
EMacs is a great OS. It just comes with a shitty text editor
I think you mistyped NetworkComputers :-) ... the sun/netscape strategy to put JavaOS terminals everwhere.
The reason IE won was because it was a better browser if you can believe it. My opinion is not popular today on slashdot in 2018 but ask any old senior web developer? IE had less rendering bugs (if you can believe this too!!), CSS support, dynamic HTML aka Ajax, more stable, faster, and used less memory.
Without IE gmail would not be. To have web apps required ajax and or dynamic html which IE had.
Netscape grew too quickly and was frantic adding features rather than fixing bugs. NEtscape 5 and 6 were so bad that they were ignored for ancient Netscape 4.7.2. IE 5.5 and 6 were horrible too but sucked less.
Regardless times are different today. Chrome is no Netscape or IE and sets the standards ... properly! It is THEE browser of this decade no doubt as nothing can beat webkit and Google is moving with rapid acceleration to keep it from dying. MS can't keep up with Edge.
If MS were retarded enough to set standards the only people who would use it are dumb corporations. I bet most web developers learned their lessons after IE 6 not to base their manhours on one version of an ancient browser these days. There is nothing MS can do as even their ancient proprietary apps can be hosted on Citrix these days if they get too crazy.
That requires both a buyer and seller. FOSS is free.
I would prefer this than an abusive police state where they can dig anything on you including PC and phone user and everyone is in a state of fear. This guy is a scum bag no doubt and I have little empathy as he lived the good life that many of us could only dream of.
Cops already are pulling over folks with shitty cars to do illegal searches as saying no is reasonable cause. This is now changing too as it was used to discriminate against African Americans.
And GNu doesn't?
It is silly as Linus is not a communist nor does Linus or any of the Linux developers need to be part of the Mozilla Rust team and be under their guidelines to use their products.
I am not saying moving to rust is a good idea. The reason Linux is in C is because Unix was written in C and Linux has conservative users and developers.
Right. That is so simple when you live in Chicago, New York, LA, DC, San Fransisco, Seattle, etc. To live by public transportation means inner metropolitan. That means double rents even with room mates. You need a car period. In New York you don't yet again you need $1500 a month WITH a roomate to live an hour outside of Manhattan.
Reread what I wrote? You came in 2000. That doesn't count. Today HR won't talk to you unless you already did the same job title for 3 to 5 years and have a college degree. Those that don't want an extra 4 years of experience.
How do you get that job then without experience first? Catch 22.
Where my stance is that changing an EULA to get back at someone is stupid. Voting for a different politician is smart on a given issue.
My issue also is freedom. I got flamed before for being a BSD advocate when quoting Bill Gates on the viral comment on GPL. He is 100% right as you link to software it must also now be free. RMS did this intentionally.
My point is not a flamewar on this but rather my own philospy of supporting MIT/BSD style licensing and to a lesser extent copyleft LGPL licenses is about freedom. Freedom to use software for whichever purpose encouraging a community but business use and those in certain universities can as well.
Basically it is wrong to tell somewhat else what to do on his or her computer.
SJW and socialist style RMS rants are harmful. My example is the Rust programming language. Mozilla worked really hard to promote Rust but the SJW and politics turned developers off. Why do you think Cisco and then Juniper choose FreeBSD over Linux for their TCP/IP stacks? If you want to change the world then find the appropriate avenue. I will never stand in the way of someone who wants to make money. Also I will not stand in the way of someone who wants to give his or her work away for free either. My favorite license does both of course.
All you need to do is declare student loans to be unsecured. If the taxpayers are no longer guaranteeing the loans, investors will no longer agree to finance 100k for an average student to get a degree in poetry. This will cause all the poetry colleges to lower the price of their poetry classes so that the students no longer receiving massive loans to take the useless classes. Once again students will be able to afford to attend poetry college by taking a part time job at Starbucks.
This is the free market.
The problem with that approach is young kids have 0 assets and 100% liability of the cost of the loan. They do not qualify. If they did qualify then they wouldn't need to go to college.
Some of the costs too were funded by federal and state programs too so the kid can go to Starbucks. There needs to be something but just less of it and secured on different amounts depending on the major and a force of state backing.
Well, there is this little problem with your thesis, which is that if you refuse to play the game, your children starve to death.
And what happens to you and your family if you refuse to play the game in Communist countries?
Yeah, I'll take my chances with the capitalists.
In communism man exploits man. In capitalism it is the other way around. :-)
The problem is as long as authoritarianism and power is in the hands of few it will be fucked up either way. True more have it in America than a communist country but you are still being screwed over every day. Examples is when you buy or sell stock HFT programs at stock exchange manipulate the price so you sell less and buy more. They can trade at night (which was illegal for over 100 years). You can't. Your interest rates and home loans are being manipulating and there is nothing you can do about it.
If you are not super smart and have a disability or a cancer in the US without health insurance you are fucked. I was right wing not too long ago as I watched socialist countries suffer. Then I looked today and Finland, UK, and even Canada are waaaay better to live in. My kidneys are going and I do not have health insurance at this time due to me being fired in 2017. I am employed as a contractor now as HR is too scared to give me a shot with a gap.
I would not have this problem if it was treated earlier and if I were Canadian or European.
But software in my opinion shouldn't take any role. FOSS shouldn't be more libertarian and if capital was invested to write the software it should stay closed source with a cost as well. Seems only fair. But users of either shouldn't be dictated too except for payments for the closed one.
This has nothing to do in my opinion of economic policy models. I am left wing or far left in the USA at this time. However, I agree with the right win libertarians on this.
You have no right to tell others what to do with their computers.
The exception of course is if you are paying them. More than likely you own the computers anyway and would also reserve that right as owner of the equipment. This is why I do not do anything personal on a work PC so I can still own it. But regardless, the same principle applies. I also prefer a MIT/BSD style license as well for this reason as if someone wants to make money great! If someone at home wants to learn it or use it and even contribute that is great too. I don't care.
My politics include budding out of others business unless it negatively impacts me. Yes, I oppose ICE in it's current form politically but I do not want to use software as a weapon and prefer to vote in primaries for politicians who can make a bigger impact than software no one uses.