Sorry, adblock, time to let your product die and we will go on to a product that actually blocks ads
So then. Tell me how it feels to steal from Slashdot? After all that is what you are doing with ublock.
I want to support websites with ethical ads that do not serve malware. Adblock is perfect! - No annoying video ads - No sound ads -No redirects where you have to hit somewhere else to go back to original site - No malware or sub contracts to any other ad network which usually does not have great security teams to check for malware/viruses - No zombie cookies in flash that can't be deleted
If Slashdot wanted to be an asshole and use the worst ads with +30 ad networks per click they would get 0 money from me on adblock. If Slashdot wants to be ethical but raise money. Then they will get money from me on adblock.
What is fair? Hosting Slashdot is certainly not free. Want to pay a subscription instead? I think adblock is perfect and ads a financial motivation for ad networks to be ethical and stop insane tracking and not infecting people with malware for ask toolbars and compromising the security of their systems.
Come on. You can't have it both ways as all you are doing is encouraging HTML 5 ads that can't be blocked or worse HTML 6 mandated DRM ads that can't be turned off where websites on non win32 platforms won't load or something else website owners and ISP's will enforce next to maximize on money. Here is a hint. They do not care about you. Sorry.
Written by someone about ot re-image his surface pro 3 to 8.1 and office 2013 because OneNote and Excel just worked before the downgrade to 2016. Really MS does make much better software than 15 years ago Linux users reading this. Windows 7/0ffice 2010 were it's height.
I guess it comes to show what happens when you have no QA team left and rely on agile software development and user feed back for bugs. Until a user submits a story via a frown no one knows about the bug
Well back to the old WindowsME days of skipping a release and waiting until service pack 1 before updating. Windows 10 too in my opinion just entered beta last August. I will switch to Office 2016 and WIndows 10 next year when update 1 of both come out.
It is incompetence and not malicious if their freaking own OS and products like the surface can't run VBA macros and onenote properly
Guess I can run Linux on top of emacs on top of SystemD. Now only if it had a decent text editor for my php running as root to handle text strings as input for my mission critical nosql database for Wall Street
You know out of curiosity I clicked on one of these sites a half decade ago expecting to laugh at H1B1 company applicants with 5 years experience in Rust and Node.js etc.
Instead found a white guy in Mexico. In Mexico?? Turns out he lives on a tropical beach and living the life:-)
No boss, sucky city, corporate stuff. Just living and soing what he wants.
My exwife got a job in Alaska during this time. OMG LOOVED it!! Ok maybe not by March after 7 months of winter:_)
But money is not everything. If I could be whatever I wanted I would happily live in Alaska for the summer and be in hiking, fishing, boating heaven and Hawaii for 45 Euro and do my own thing with less pressure then sign me up. Everyone I know who chases money becomes misserable after 3 months
I was waiting for a basher as this is Slashdot and only SystemD gets more hate:-)
Surface is fine. Your IT got hit with the bad update for Windows 8.1 that was revoked. Use this troubleshooter. Your team should test more before deployment
Yes I will probably be modded down , but they have programs for educators and low income students and have been known to donate netbooks and tablets like their atom surfaces which are hybrids
Good to see they are getting into the game....too bad the 'edge' browser is a piece of crap that I never use...part of the fairly lame windows 10 which I have only upgraded to on one of my 9 computers...and am now waiting for windows 11 before anything more happens.
Edge is is not a piece of crap. It also is getting more HTML 5 support in Threshhold 2 aka update 1 coming out around Halloween for WIndows 10 and will have a Chrome API for extensions including adblock.
Edge is a very good browser and I give MS kudos since IE 6 was left to rot.
Remember Firefox was once Netscape which was worse than IE 6 back in 2001!
Edge removed lots of crud which prevented IE from being agile to catch up to Chrome and Firefox. IE 11 FYI was ok. Not great but meh it worked with minimal work arounds if at all compared to the absolute nightmare of its early cousins.
Edge does lack plugins which in Threshold 2 will have a Chrome API to use adblockers and other plugings to be ported over. Give it a try on WIndows 10 and benchmark it. You maybe surprised.
Jobs was the product perfectionist and marketing genius. He had insights into what the use rwanted (ease of use, attractive, integrated functionality etc etc) at a time when the geeks amongst us couldn't see any reason to go past the command prompt.
Woz was the hardware maven. The uber-Geek. He literally made the Apple 1 and the early Apple II's, the first viable floppy disc drive for consumers, and contributed to a host of other interfaces and connections which made attaching Apple's to little numbers like printers, modems and the like viable. When Apple went down the road of integrated chips, Woz was no longer the standaalone expert... but he was still technically brilliant enough to contribute to designs like the IIe and IIc, as well as the Apple3.
For mine, the crash was a bit of a tragedy - as he was never the same after that. But nobody should deny his brilliance in what he did do. A large parr of the reason that personal computers and IT became so ubiquitous rests with Woz.
What are you talking about? He designed part of the original imacs and lead with the early powerMacs of the 2000's as a consultant. True Jobs hired an art company to make the outside look pretty he did have a role on the insides
How was the Apple II better or superior to the Commodore, TRS 80, Sinclaire Pet, or whatever the hell was out during the 1980's? Jobs provided much success so people could use the Apple II and bring in the revenue.
I am a fan of Steve Jobs for marketing and his CEO abilities. If it were not for Steve Jobs the Mac would not still be here. Actually Apple finally killed the floppy drive and gave us USB. The original iMacs were so popular it finally got the peripheral makers on board which benefited the PC.
Steve also saved us somewhat from a more evil MS. When the iPhone came out WindowsCE finally died! Remember you could only buy something from the carrier store like $4 for a crappy.mid syntthasized ringtone etc? Windows improved and pricing became better for those stuck on the PC side. Google helped too with making Windows 10 and VS community edition free.
Yeah I would probably admit I would not want to work directly for him. I am a PC user in the camp of not hating Apple but acknowledge his move to perfection did help move the PC and mobile industry over and people love his products whether you do or not.
Long term it was healthy for computing ecosystem. Even Intel today is making each new i5/i7 use less and less power which really started from Jobs perfection in the days of the Ipad which Intel wants in. How is this a bad thing?
It is a shitty browser and worse on the market. Even IE is better today and safer. Firefox lacks 2008 technology like sandboxing, threads, and low-rights mode in Windows which IE 8+ and Chrome which make them better browsers. It also explains why one bad thread can take out the whole browser.
Firefox is like a timewarp from 2005. Sure it beat IE 6 YES!!! But come on times have changed and I care about security. Per process tabs make it scale on multicore systems and provide security.
Yes even modern IE 11 does not require hacks and runs on less memory and is more secure. I never ever thought I would type this as a professional IE hater last decade who during a fresh install removes IE from the taskbar and uses ftp in cmd.exe to put on Firefox as to not contaminate my cpu:-)
I suppose there is Opera which is based off blink and Chromium without the spyware next?? With Windows 10 update 1 coming out next month Edge will have a Chrome API for add-ons and if Ublock is supported I may switch to that browser.
Vista scarred users soo much they freaking stuck with a 12 year old OS after Windows 7 cleansed all the messes of Vista. Some were happy to get Windows 7 and it had measurable marketshare from sites back on the RC days lol. The other half... XP WORKS FINE!! CHANGE FOR THE SAKE OF CHANGE NA NA.. etc.
Well SystemD tried to be what Init failed to do on a modern system. Event driven Macbooks with startupD could sleep in one time zone and wake in another.:-) Init can't do that. You would need to put in statically every single thing that could possible happen scripted in. Also you would have thousands upon thousands of PIDs on startup too in a mess and I wonder why Unix admins think this should be a normal process?
FYI I am not a pro SystemD supporter at all!
I am just saying my point is Upstart in Ubuntu and SMF in Solaris were similar alternatives and were designed as... get ready to be meant as an improvement over init. Event driven environments you can set for example a server going read-only if it detects a break in as an example with relative ease for a system administrator. I will state I am not a Unix administrator so I am not qualified to say SystemD is superior. My point is theory and mindsets of users.
So likewise Slashdotters are anxious when they hear improvements = change for the sake of change OMG I remember SystemD and Windows Vista NO even if it has nothing to do what so ever. The brains are trained and wired to resist change now after a bad experience.
But the dangers is like Windows 7 which in every way is superior to XP if you are stuck in Windows land still has holdouts and I see the same in Linux. IN FreeBSD land these users will resist any improvement because we know change is bad to some.
The community needs to get over this and realize change is sometimes necessary and if SystemD is the wrong solution to the problem. Make an alternative? Not say NOTHING WRONG WITH INIT and cover your ears and eyes and go nada nada.
A little background too the reason SystemD has no text output is for security and is a good practice. SMF does the same thing. If I were to r00t your server the first thing I will do is go to/var/logs and change them to hide my activity etc. It is like have passwords in text in/etc/password.d (I am dead serious on that one too!)
Adobe sucks and is a monopoly. After buying Aldus and anyone who made video editing they are trying to milk the cow for all its worth. Also they try to make each function into a seperate product to get more money. So it is like MS splitting up word into 3 different programs. One for editing. One proofing. One for clip art etc. Then they have the freaking audacity to charge you full price each year??
Don't view opinions on subscriptions by Adobe who suck.
I pay $90 a year and could go much cheaper with 3 devices without publisher or Access for $60 a year. That is a few dollars a month and I love my cloud as I take pics from work and they all sync up so MS unlike Adobe gave me a feature.
In my scenario I am willing to pay and it seems fair for a yearly subscription. If Adobe was $90 a year and gave you some extra services it may not be a bad thing.
If Jetbrains offers cool features for cheaper and project management capabilities I can see this as a plus for business too
They are the best because they can take calls and have a much larger screen.
My coworker who has one simply laughs at the Android ones because of the silly circular screen and the fact you still need a phone to take a call. With Tizen you can drive and everything and do conference calls
MS does sell the regular version of Office too you know. I need MS Access. For $99 a year I have Office on 4 devices with Access including my phone and my exwife in California when she needed a real version of Office and was broke. Their 365 includes free new updates like 2015 when it comes out and 1 TB of Onedrive storage and file synchronization across all my devices. They automatically show up in recent documents.
It is an excellent value as this would cost more than $2000 easily for the professional version on each device... oh oops I upgraded the motherboard and install got de-actived:-(... no problem I will just enable it on new computer take it off old one etc.
Done correctly it can benefit the consumer as well. Adobe... not so much
That is not necessarily bad for corporate customers and myself with Office 365.
Office 365 I pay $99 a year. I have office on 3 systems and my Android phone. I also get 1 TB of cloud storage with OneDrive as well. I get all the newest versions and fixes like MS is adding colors back and more touch oriented features for my surface pro and Android for free. My $99 is because I also have Access. My exwife was in big trouble last year with no work and needed to go back to school to get recertified and didn't have any money for an office suite as her resume was misformatted with LibreOffice. I gave her a free install off 365 so she has Word for both school and for resumes and work (now she has a job). Didn't cost me anything
If I paid for 3 desperate licenses this would cost $2100!! This is because publisher and MS Access added raises the cost significantly. I share my filed too with all my devices and not worry where it is stored as Onedrive saves it. To me $99 a year is well worth the price. There is also a $65 a year version too for less devices and no MS Access.
Subscriptions to OneDrive and other services is how Windows 10 is free.
Adobe are assholes I do agree. But not all is bad. Corporate customers who do quarterly profit and loss statement CAN"T have a dip! It is better to pay a little more for even expenses on a monthly or yearly basis and pay for it like electricity.
MS got it right in my opinion. With their subscription they through in a bone and offered OneDrive and file access. Yes we bash MS but they are tame since losing similiar to IBM and may not make the best operating systems but make fine development and office software. Adobe are greedy and offered nothing.
So my point is for the right service both the customer and company can win.
Outside of slashdot I have not met anyone yet who has ever complained about the ribbon in many years.
It took me a week to end the frustation and get the hang of things. A month later I was proficient and prefer it and the change previews over the hiddeous nested menus of 2003 any day. Now I curse and pull my hair out when I got to 2003 workstation
Want to see something cool? Hit the alt key in office? If you are on a laptop with limited space like a starbucks or airplane you do not need a mouse. Just hit the alt key and it will show you which shortcut will open each ribbon. I got hooked as I prefer to use Window key and type without a mouse and now this on a laptop and find it very Unix like
Slashdot Mirror
Sorry, adblock, time to let your product die and we will go on to a product that actually blocks ads
So then. Tell me how it feels to steal from Slashdot? After all that is what you are doing with ublock.
I want to support websites with ethical ads that do not serve malware. Adblock is perfect!
- No annoying video ads
- No sound ads
-No redirects where you have to hit somewhere else to go back to original site
- No malware or sub contracts to any other ad network which usually does not have great security teams to check for malware/viruses
- No zombie cookies in flash that can't be deleted
If Slashdot wanted to be an asshole and use the worst ads with +30 ad networks per click they would get 0 money from me on adblock.
If Slashdot wants to be ethical but raise money. Then they will get money from me on adblock.
What is fair? Hosting Slashdot is certainly not free. Want to pay a subscription instead? I think adblock is perfect and ads a financial motivation for ad networks to be ethical and stop insane tracking and not infecting people with malware for ask toolbars and compromising the security of their systems.
Come on. You can't have it both ways as all you are doing is encouraging HTML 5 ads that can't be blocked or worse HTML 6 mandated DRM ads that can't be turned off where websites on non win32 platforms won't load or something else website owners and ISP's will enforce next to maximize on money. Here is a hint. They do not care about you. Sorry.
Except it doesn't work well on Windows either
Written by someone about ot re-image his surface pro 3 to 8.1 and office 2013 because OneNote and Excel just worked before the downgrade to 2016. Really MS does make much better software than 15 years ago Linux users reading this. Windows 7/0ffice 2010 were it's height.
I guess it comes to show what happens when you have no QA team left and rely on agile software development and user feed back for bugs. Until a user submits a story via a frown no one knows about the bug
Well back to the old WindowsME days of skipping a release and waiting until service pack 1 before updating. Windows 10 too in my opinion just entered beta last August. I will switch to Office 2016 and WIndows 10 next year when update 1 of both come out.
It is incompetence and not malicious if their freaking own OS and products like the surface can't run VBA macros and onenote properly
Guess I can run Linux on top of emacs on top of SystemD. Now only if it had a decent text editor for my php running as root to handle text strings as input for my mission critical nosql database for Wall Street
You know out of curiosity I clicked on one of these sites a half decade ago expecting to laugh at H1B1 company applicants with 5 years experience in Rust and Node.js etc.
Instead found a white guy in Mexico. In Mexico?? Turns out he lives on a tropical beach and living the life :-)
No boss, sucky city, corporate stuff. Just living and soing what he wants.
My exwife got a job in Alaska during this time. OMG LOOVED it!! Ok maybe not by March after 7 months of winter :_)
But money is not everything. If I could be whatever I wanted I would happily live in Alaska for the summer and be in hiking, fishing, boating heaven and Hawaii for 45 Euro and do my own thing with less pressure then sign me up. Everyone I know who chases money becomes misserable after 3 months
I was waiting for a basher as this is Slashdot and only SystemD gets more hate :-)
Surface is fine. Your IT got hit with the bad update for Windows 8.1 that was revoked. Use this troubleshooter. Your team should test more before deployment
Lots of the smog in LA has come 5000 miles away from China I read in a study. The US is a drop in the bucket these days with Industrial output
Yes I will probably be modded down , but they have programs for educators and low income students and have been known to donate netbooks and tablets like their atom surfaces which are hybrids
Node.js is webscale. It has the efficiency of javscript with the complexity of assembler.
Sure you can find one right here
Hey hipsters there is something waay soo cool in Erlang 2.0 aka OTP Pyschobith beats Node.JS anyday!!!
Good to see they are getting into the game....too bad the 'edge' browser is a piece of crap that I never use...part of the fairly lame windows 10 which I have only upgraded to on one of my 9 computers...and am now waiting for windows 11 before anything more happens.
Edge is is not a piece of crap. It also is getting more HTML 5 support in Threshhold 2 aka update 1 coming out around Halloween for WIndows 10 and will have a Chrome API for extensions including adblock.
Edge is a very good browser and I give MS kudos since IE 6 was left to rot.
Remember Firefox was once Netscape which was worse than IE 6 back in 2001!
Edge removed lots of crud which prevented IE from being agile to catch up to Chrome and Firefox. IE 11 FYI was ok. Not great but meh it worked with minimal work arounds if at all compared to the absolute nightmare of its early cousins.
Edge does lack plugins which in Threshold 2 will have a Chrome API to use adblockers and other plugings to be ported over. Give it a try on WIndows 10 and benchmark it. You maybe surprised.
Lol
I never owned a mac before
Mmmmm ...
Jobs was the product perfectionist and marketing genius. He had insights into what the use rwanted (ease of use, attractive, integrated functionality etc etc) at a time when the geeks amongst us couldn't see any reason to go past the command prompt.
Woz was the hardware maven. The uber-Geek. He literally made the Apple 1 and the early Apple II's, the first viable floppy disc drive for consumers, and contributed to a host of other interfaces and connections which made attaching Apple's to little numbers like printers, modems and the like viable. When Apple went down the road of integrated chips, Woz was no longer the standaalone expert ... but he was still technically brilliant enough to contribute to designs like the IIe and IIc, as well as the Apple3.
For mine, the crash was a bit of a tragedy - as he was never the same after that. But nobody should deny his brilliance in what he did do. A large parr of the reason that personal computers and IT became so ubiquitous rests with Woz.
What are you talking about? He designed part of the original imacs and lead with the early powerMacs of the 2000's as a consultant. True Jobs hired an art company to make the outside look pretty he did have a role on the insides
Devils advocate.
How was the Apple II better or superior to the Commodore, TRS 80, Sinclaire Pet, or whatever the hell was out during the 1980's? Jobs provided much success so people could use the Apple II and bring in the revenue.
I am a fan of Steve Jobs for marketing and his CEO abilities. If it were not for Steve Jobs the Mac would not still be here. Actually Apple finally killed the floppy drive and gave us USB. The original iMacs were so popular it finally got the peripheral makers on board which benefited the PC.
Steve also saved us somewhat from a more evil MS. When the iPhone came out WindowsCE finally died! Remember you could only buy something from the carrier store like $4 for a crappy .mid syntthasized ringtone etc? Windows improved and pricing became better for those stuck on the PC side. Google helped too with making Windows 10 and VS community edition free.
Yeah I would probably admit I would not want to work directly for him. I am a PC user in the camp of not hating Apple but acknowledge his move to perfection did help move the PC and mobile industry over and people love his products whether you do or not.
Long term it was healthy for computing ecosystem. Even Intel today is making each new i5/i7 use less and less power which really started from Jobs perfection in the days of the Ipad which Intel wants in. How is this a bad thing?
I can't use Firefox anymore.
It is a shitty browser and worse on the market. Even IE is better today and safer. Firefox lacks 2008 technology like sandboxing, threads, and low-rights mode in Windows which IE 8+ and Chrome which make them better browsers. It also explains why one bad thread can take out the whole browser.
Firefox is like a timewarp from 2005. Sure it beat IE 6 YES!!! But come on times have changed and I care about security. Per process tabs make it scale on multicore systems and provide security.
Yes even modern IE 11 does not require hacks and runs on less memory and is more secure. I never ever thought I would type this as a professional IE hater last decade who during a fresh install removes IE from the taskbar and uses ftp in cmd.exe to put on Firefox as to not contaminate my cpu :-)
I suppose there is Opera which is based off blink and Chromium without the spyware next?? With Windows 10 update 1 coming out next month Edge will have a Chrome API for add-ons and if Ublock is supported I may switch to that browser.
My theory
We saw this in Windows in 2006.
Vista scarred users soo much they freaking stuck with a 12 year old OS after Windows 7 cleansed all the messes of Vista. Some were happy to get Windows 7 and it had measurable marketshare from sites back on the RC days lol. The other half ... XP WORKS FINE!! CHANGE FOR THE SAKE OF CHANGE NA NA.. etc.
Well SystemD tried to be what Init failed to do on a modern system. Event driven Macbooks with startupD could sleep in one time zone and wake in another. :-) Init can't do that. You would need to put in statically every single thing that could possible happen scripted in. Also you would have thousands upon thousands of PIDs on startup too in a mess and I wonder why Unix admins think this should be a normal process?
FYI I am not a pro SystemD supporter at all!
I am just saying my point is Upstart in Ubuntu and SMF in Solaris were similar alternatives and were designed as ... get ready to be meant as an improvement over init. Event driven environments you can set for example a server going read-only if it detects a break in as an example with relative ease for a system administrator. I will state I am not a Unix administrator so I am not qualified to say SystemD is superior. My point is theory and mindsets of users.
So likewise Slashdotters are anxious when they hear improvements = change for the sake of change OMG I remember SystemD and Windows Vista NO even if it has nothing to do what so ever. The brains are trained and wired to resist change now after a bad experience.
But the dangers is like Windows 7 which in every way is superior to XP if you are stuck in Windows land still has holdouts and I see the same in Linux. IN FreeBSD land these users will resist any improvement because we know change is bad to some.
The community needs to get over this and realize change is sometimes necessary and if SystemD is the wrong solution to the problem. Make an alternative? Not say NOTHING WRONG WITH INIT and cover your ears and eyes and go nada nada.
A little background too the reason SystemD has no text output is for security and is a good practice. SMF does the same thing. If I were to r00t your server the first thing I will do is go to /var/logs and change them to hide my activity etc. It is like have passwords in text in /etc/password.d (I am dead serious on that one too!)
This also doesn't follow the Unix philosophy. Replaces a tool everyone is familiar with too. But I see no foaming at the mouths this time.
No Only Erlang reborn as OTP psychobitch is both webscale and kickass for hipsters
Adobe sucks and is a monopoly. After buying Aldus and anyone who made video editing they are trying to milk the cow for all its worth. Also they try to make each function into a seperate product to get more money. So it is like MS splitting up word into 3 different programs. One for editing. One proofing. One for clip art etc. Then they have the freaking audacity to charge you full price each year??
Don't view opinions on subscriptions by Adobe who suck.
I pay $90 a year and could go much cheaper with 3 devices without publisher or Access for $60 a year. That is a few dollars a month and I love my cloud as I take pics from work and they all sync up so MS unlike Adobe gave me a feature.
In my scenario I am willing to pay and it seems fair for a yearly subscription. If Adobe was $90 a year and gave you some extra services it may not be a bad thing.
If Jetbrains offers cool features for cheaper and project management capabilities I can see this as a plus for business too
They are the best because they can take calls and have a much larger screen.
My coworker who has one simply laughs at the Android ones because of the silly circular screen and the fact you still need a phone to take a call. With Tizen you can drive and everything and do conference calls
But but it is webscale with the complexities of assembler with the efficiency of Javascript
Office 365 is great for me.
MS does sell the regular version of Office too you know. I need MS Access. For $99 a year I have Office on 4 devices with Access including my phone and my exwife in California when she needed a real version of Office and was broke. Their 365 includes free new updates like 2015 when it comes out and 1 TB of Onedrive storage and file synchronization across all my devices. They automatically show up in recent documents.
It is an excellent value as this would cost more than $2000 easily for the professional version on each device ... oh oops I upgraded the motherboard and install got de-actived :-( ... no problem I will just enable it on new computer take it off old one etc.
Done correctly it can benefit the consumer as well. Adobe ... not so much
That is not necessarily bad for corporate customers and myself with Office 365.
Office 365 I pay $99 a year. I have office on 3 systems and my Android phone. I also get 1 TB of cloud storage with OneDrive as well. I get all the newest versions and fixes like MS is adding colors back and more touch oriented features for my surface pro and Android for free. My $99 is because I also have Access. My exwife was in big trouble last year with no work and needed to go back to school to get recertified and didn't have any money for an office suite as her resume was misformatted with LibreOffice. I gave her a free install off 365 so she has Word for both school and for resumes and work (now she has a job). Didn't cost me anything
If I paid for 3 desperate licenses this would cost $2100!! This is because publisher and MS Access added raises the cost significantly. I share my filed too with all my devices and not worry where it is stored as Onedrive saves it. To me $99 a year is well worth the price. There is also a $65 a year version too for less devices and no MS Access.
Subscriptions to OneDrive and other services is how Windows 10 is free.
Adobe are assholes I do agree. But not all is bad. Corporate customers who do quarterly profit and loss statement CAN"T have a dip! It is better to pay a little more for even expenses on a monthly or yearly basis and pay for it like electricity.
MS got it right in my opinion. With their subscription they through in a bone and offered OneDrive and file access. Yes we bash MS but they are tame since losing similiar to IBM and may not make the best operating systems but make fine development and office software. Adobe are greedy and offered nothing.
So my point is for the right service both the customer and company can win.
Outside of slashdot I have not met anyone yet who has ever complained about the ribbon in many years.
It took me a week to end the frustation and get the hang of things. A month later I was proficient and prefer it and the change previews over the hiddeous nested menus of 2003 any day. Now I curse and pull my hair out when I got to 2003 workstation
Want to see something cool? Hit the alt key in office? If you are on a laptop with limited space like a starbucks or airplane you do not need a mouse. Just hit the alt key and it will show you which shortcut will open each ribbon. I got hooked as I prefer to use Window key and type without a mouse and now this on a laptop and find it very Unix like