If you have a large php or java servlet running linux you are less likely to switch to windows.
MS is only helping build compability so when they go after your boss for patent infringement they can sell windows as a replacement for your linux apps.
It makes sense that Microsoft wants to promote php, apache, and jboss on Windows. It helps their customers running Linux to switch to Windows when they threaten to sue them.
Why not switch to windows where there is no liability risk? After all you can run your same applications.
After this will be the attempt to switch former linux users into a pure Microsoft environment with all microsoft products.
People do act in their own self interest and if you do not then someone else will and take advantage of it or you.
An example is the stock market. I used to live in Florida a few years ago and there was a proposition to increase the minimium wage. Images of hurricanes and destruction were shown on TV mentioning scarily mentioned hundred of thousands of jobs will be lost due to proposition x(without mentioning what it is).
The jobs were not lost after the measure past and an investigation happened on who funded the add.
Answer? Wall street brokers who did not want to lose %3 value on their holding at the expense of tens of thousands of workers?? If that is not greed and selfishiness then I do not know what is.
Business is cut throat and if you have investors then you need to backstab and only think of the short term goals and be altruistic. If not then your fired or another company who can sell the same products for just %5-10 less will get all the capital from investors and throw you under.
It sadness me and yes its part of our human nature. Explain why SUV's and Trucks are so popular? Its to show off the owners are better than you. As a result we have to pay higher money in gas and insurance to pay for these tanks but its their right to show they are better which makes us want to buy them more to compete back.
Because Walmart will not let any company stock any products that ARE NOT made in China.
1 out of every 4 products comes from a walmart store so they are needed if you want to stay competitive. By 2010 half of all the worlds goods will come from them.
That and now Target is doing the same is causing concern. I blame these companies more than the polices of any government in causing the delima. China produces many times more pollution than the US but with a billion citizens is still lower overall if you divide that number by 1 billion for their population.
You can try running php on Windows with IIS. Its alot more stable on the windows platform and IIS is no longer the POS it used to be. Also you may want to use a real mature language like java or.NET if you need stability and maturity. Php is very mixed.
Of course I am probably going to be modded down here on slashdot for such a posting.
I was hoping for concrete evidence for and agaisnt mysql, but instead read about someone raving agaisnt the GPL and slamming mysql, then supporting the GPL and slamming mysql because its not gpl?? Then I read about how some dbas' are idiots because they buy more than 1 database license when one already exists and then somehow turns this agaisnt mysql. Last he slams mysql because its not 30 years old like oracle and just 15 years old?? What does that have to do with reliability?
Whatever.... I did not bother to read more.
At least mention the pros and cons of price, features, flexibilities, and needs when writing an evaluation. Worse is the author who bashed mysql did not even offer an alternative but Oracle a few times just because you may have a license already.
BTW I think mysql is weak compared to a real database with acid support and better clustering and transact sql. Those could be arguments for postgresql or ms-sql server which are better than mysql for certain situations just like Oracle is better for very large scale operations.
Sure the shop has a financial incentive. 1.) Not get sued and get its MS OEM license revoked. 2.) Sell Windows installations.
They do get money and an employee willing to get around not paying for Windows is more likely to steal. Could you trust that person not to walk out with some ram dimms or cpus?
But Merchandise needs to be sold and it does cost the company money. Why would I want to pay this shop for a $99 OEM copy of Windows when I can just pay a tech to steal it?
Also if low end gaming boxes were made without legal copies of pcs then the customers could sue or report you to SPA if ms ever deactivated their pcs when running a MS update with their whole copyright drm guinine licensing craplet. Ouch
If they can afford a new computer then they can afford Windows.
If they are so financially restrained that a little $99 OEM edition will break their wallets well... they are probably not in a good enough financial situation to buy a computer. At least I would not if I were that broke.
Anyway there is Linux if they do not want a copy of windows. But if you agree to use MS garbage then you need to pay them whether you like the company or not you do not use it. Plain and simple.
If you wrote software for a living I think you would be pretty angry if people were using it without paying for it. Or if your boss could not afford to pay your paycheck for 2 weeks worth of work which is a better analogy.
Microsoft sells WindowsXP starter editions that are affordable. They are especially affordable if you can afford a new pc.
Most entry level programmers there buy used pcs off of ebay and if I can afford a laptop making a mere $11k a year because I work a minimium wage job part time and I am a student, then so can they.
You need to pay for Windows or do not use like you mention but if its a new pc then the customer can surely afford it.
Alot of newer MBAs do not consider I.T. workers capital.
Instead they view IT workers as cost centers. Accountants write their salary in red as a loss since I.T. does not make anything and brings 0 value. But something like Sales can be written as capital as they can show they bring money in for example.
Of course that is BS but alot of new MBA graduates whose professors spewed this crap when the.com boom collapsed, are now bringing this philosphy into practice. They view outsourcing as a way to slash red ink of the cost center in labor rather than selling capital. Wow, that sounds alot better to the CEO and CFO doesn't it?
No most magazines make their money from advertisers. This is why my example of the village voice which is free. They pay the bills.
If your the CEO you have 2 options: 1.) Ban all advertisements and buy the units to review in secret which Consumer Reports does. The downside is price as you need a subscription that costs more than PC magazine to pay for this. Also you need a large reader base for this business model.
2.) Be honest and let the reporters do their job. Now you have peripheral makers like *cough* Dell/Alienware or Microsoft * cough* threaten to not let you review their products or pay you advertising revenue unless you say more positive things.
So your competitors get the first headline Windows VISTAXP 2.0 FIRST LOOK!! and you do not have it because Microsoft does not like you enough to give you the first alpha.
Ouch
3.) Play the middle of the road approach and let the reporters do their jobs but research advertisers first before printing. That way you do not lose revenues.
It sucks but that is life for those in the advertising industry. Its unethical but normal and very cut throat. If your competitors have more advertising revenue then they can put you under.
Readers dont care about reliable reporting or credibility. Look at Fox news or CNN?
The CEO was just doing his job and there is nothing unethical about it. I would have done the same if I were him.
His job was to bring in the most amount of money possible to his company from his customers. The customers are his advertisers. Most consumers like me have not read a pc magazine in many years thanks to slashdot and the internet because they are all biased.
The village voice and other alternative magazines that are free for many metros that were owned by the Village Voice brand had a similiar situation. They fired 1/4 of their staff for being too harsh on their advertisers and hired more friendly music critic writters to increase revenue. Its just business as usual and another example is the TV industry. How many headline news stories do you hear bashing an advertiser? None.
Why buy a sun phone? And if Sun is ready for an ajax and flash killer with javaFX then it needs to be ported to other operating systems for phones. It makes sense to develop an OS.
However it would be nicest to just develop JavaFX for multiple operating systems so it can become a standard. Otherwise it will be usless like.net mobile..Net mobile kicks ass but market share is way too limited to develop on it as it requires windows.
Punish those evil doers who dare excersize their right to sell property under the US consitution.
Next we can ban selling and buying used cars. The exercise costs the auto industry billions of un-verifible money from potential revenue every year. Poor starving automotive engineers and CEO's work very hard to design and build the latest cars that are copyrighted under US law thanks to selling used cars.
Infact just about everything is copyrighted so we should just ban the sale of anything used. Think about how many jobs we could create!
Remember when you buy a car you do not own it. You only own a copy of the car that is based in some secret location at the company's headquarters. Just read the EULA for MS Windows if you do not believe me when purchasing only copies of material and not the actual products.
Just hack the host file to point bankofamerica.bank to your IP Address. Phishing scheme done.
Also people are used to using.com for sites on the web. So Grandma will still type bankofamerika.com by accident and get the false site even without hacking the host file.
Some folks recommended symbian or some weird name Linux.
I would recommend ubuntu Linux which is the most popular Linux on the planet and comes with Dell computers which another poster mentioned.
It has a software update manager which reminds you of recommended updated and will install them automatically over the web similiarly to WindowsUpdate on Windows. No need to compile anything and it uses binary drivers so you dont have to compile anything. The gnu free software zealots would consider it blasphemey since they want everything free but you at least can get things done quickly which I think is more beneficial for the community.
I felt uncomfortable around Linux too but I noticed the same feeling when I worked with MacOSX when I worked at a computer lab. Its change. Things work a bit different and familiarity is a plus. Gnome is standard with Ubuntu and I used to hate it. Now I love it and despise KDE which was my old favorite. Its what I am used too.
Whats great about Ubuntu is you can try it out without installing it. It has a livecd which is slow as mollasis but you can taste it and test your hardware before installing it. If you want to install it it will happily coexist with windows and install a menu which you can chose to boot during startup.
FYI I switched back to Windows recently after I found the fonts were not anti aligned nor cleartype with Openoffice unlike the win32 version. I still run it under the free vmware server for my laptop when I want to learn Apache/PHP/Jakarta but use Windows for c# and java desktop development. VMWare a great option too for experimenting and its free. I use it to run FreeDOS to play some old games too.:-)
Of course that is also the argument for windows. Xorg is much better than xf86 and of course computers with gigs of ram and dual core processors are nice too.
I loved aqua for macosx but I guess X is here. The fonts are now getting usable for those used to them on windows or macosx though you need David Turners patches for real clear type rendering.
I have only seen Linux kernel panic once since 1999 because of a setting I did with the bios under kernel 2.0 that was my fault. Windows on the other hand crashes alot more often and has more security issues because things run in the kernel or ring0 which should not. Its very will layered. The apps on my linux distros are bleeding edge and suck compared to most commercial unix counterparts and even Windows but its well layers. Ubuntu, Debian, and RHES are the exceptions.
I have switched to FreeBSD for awhile because I felt Linux lacked quality and a lack of design since it tends to evolve compared to the BSD family of operating systems which are designed.... and of course the FreeBSD manual that came with the box is the best unix resource I ever read. Everything is just integrated and works and feels like one unified system.
For the background here I started to use Linux around 1998 or 1999 and switched to FreeBSD in 2002 - 2005. I then switched to Ubuntu and then back to Windows but still run Ubuntu under the free VMWare Server on my laptop. I needed to learn Java for my MIS program and java reaks under any BSD so I switched back to Windows and then linux again.
Ubuntu is the only OS that feels BSDish in the way that everything is integrated and well tested with look and feel and quality.
Anyway I feel its very mature though the apps could be improved which is an argument for commercial unixies like Solaris on mission critical servers, but with distros like Ubuntu that problem is going away thanks to integrated bug reporting.d
Studies show they work in lower income schools with students who have no access to computers or the internet. If the kids already have that at home then they will use it as a toy rather than a tool
How much money does your inhouse ERP apps bring? How about your wharehouse database that can be used to cut down misplaced inventory? How about your accounting apps that help the CFO find out which areas are hte most profitable?
Forecasting supply/demand apps?
These all make money and help streamline business processes and work with the CEO and his company.
Thats what CEO's want to hear and what a good I.T. department does in a fortune 1000 company.
Not that your high tech janitors like another poster mentioned, which in this case would mean its time to either move to India or update your resume because your a cost center.
I was looking at craigslist.com for webmaster and developers positions. Almost all of them demanded experience with search engine optimization as a must.
It was redicilious and its a race to the bottom because if they siteX doesn't do it then siteY a competitor will and take business away. Why pay google ads when you can spam and pay them?
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I would like to try before I buy or invest money into LOTR online.
Nope its not a multiple personality disorder.
If you have a large php or java servlet running linux you are less likely to switch to windows.
MS is only helping build compability so when they go after your boss for patent infringement they can sell windows as a replacement for your linux apps.
It goes hand in hand.
It makes sense that Microsoft wants to promote php, apache, and jboss on Windows. It helps their customers running Linux to switch to Windows when they threaten to sue them.
Why not switch to windows where there is no liability risk? After all you can run your same applications.
After this will be the attempt to switch former linux users into a pure Microsoft environment with all microsoft products.
People do act in their own self interest and if you do not then someone else will and take advantage of it or you.
An example is the stock market. I used to live in Florida a few years ago and there was a proposition to increase the minimium wage. Images of hurricanes and destruction were shown on TV mentioning scarily mentioned hundred of thousands of jobs will be lost due to proposition x(without mentioning what it is).
The jobs were not lost after the measure past and an investigation happened on who funded the add.
Answer? Wall street brokers who did not want to lose %3 value on their holding at the expense of tens of thousands of workers?? If that is not greed and selfishiness then I do not know what is.
Business is cut throat and if you have investors then you need to backstab and only think of the short term goals and be altruistic. If not then your fired or another company who can sell the same products for just %5-10 less will get all the capital from investors and throw you under.
It sadness me and yes its part of our human nature. Explain why SUV's and Trucks are so popular? Its to show off the owners are better than you. As a result we have to pay higher money in gas and insurance to pay for these tanks but its their right to show they are better which makes us want to buy them more to compete back.
I wonder if Microsoft had anything to do with this since they are a top lobbiest?
Because Walmart will not let any company stock any products that ARE NOT made in China.
1 out of every 4 products comes from a walmart store so they are needed if you want to stay competitive. By 2010 half of all the worlds goods will come from them.
That and now Target is doing the same is causing concern. I blame these companies more than the polices of any government in causing the delima. China produces many times more pollution than the US but with a billion citizens is still lower overall if you divide that number by 1 billion for their population.
You can try running php on Windows with IIS. Its alot more stable on the windows platform and IIS is no longer the POS it used to be. Also you may want to use a real mature language like java or .NET if you need stability and maturity. Php is very mixed.
Of course I am probably going to be modded down here on slashdot for such a posting.
I was hoping for concrete evidence for and agaisnt mysql, but instead read about someone raving agaisnt the GPL and slamming mysql, then supporting the GPL and slamming mysql because its not gpl?? Then I read about how some dbas' are idiots because they buy more than 1 database license when one already exists and then somehow turns this agaisnt mysql. Last he slams mysql because its not 30 years old like oracle and just 15 years old?? What does that have to do with reliability?
.... I did not bother to read more.
Whatever
At least mention the pros and cons of price, features, flexibilities, and needs when writing an evaluation. Worse is the author who bashed mysql did not even offer an alternative but Oracle a few times just because you may have a license already.
BTW I think mysql is weak compared to a real database with acid support and better clustering and transact sql. Those could be arguments for postgresql or ms-sql server which are better than mysql for certain situations just like Oracle is better for very large scale operations.
Sure the shop has a financial incentive.
1.) Not get sued and get its MS OEM license revoked.
2.) Sell Windows installations.
They do get money and an employee willing to get around not paying for Windows is more likely to steal. Could you trust that person not to walk out with some ram dimms or cpus?
But Merchandise needs to be sold and it does cost the company money. Why would I want to pay this shop for a $99 OEM copy of Windows when I can just pay a tech to steal it?
Also if low end gaming boxes were made without legal copies of pcs then the customers could sue or report you to SPA if ms ever deactivated their pcs when running a MS update with their whole copyright drm guinine licensing craplet. Ouch
If they can afford a new computer then they can afford Windows.
... they are probably not in a good enough financial situation to buy a computer. At least I would not if I were that broke.
If they are so financially restrained that a little $99 OEM edition will break their wallets well
Anyway there is Linux if they do not want a copy of windows. But if you agree to use MS garbage then you need to pay them whether you like the company or not you do not use it. Plain and simple.
If you wrote software for a living I think you would be pretty angry if people were using it without paying for it. Or if your boss could not afford to pay your paycheck for 2 weeks worth of work which is a better analogy.
Microsoft sells WindowsXP starter editions that are affordable. They are especially affordable if you can afford a new pc.
Most entry level programmers there buy used pcs off of ebay and if I can afford a laptop making a mere $11k a year because I work a minimium wage job part time and I am a student, then so can they.
You need to pay for Windows or do not use like you mention but if its a new pc then the customer can surely afford it.
Alot of newer MBAs do not consider I.T. workers capital.
.com boom collapsed, are now bringing this philosphy into practice. They view outsourcing as a way to slash red ink of the cost center in labor rather than selling capital. Wow, that sounds alot better to the CEO and CFO doesn't it?
Instead they view IT workers as cost centers. Accountants write their salary in red as a loss since I.T. does not make anything and brings 0 value. But something like Sales can be written as capital as they can show they bring money in for example.
Of course that is BS but alot of new MBA graduates whose professors spewed this crap when the
No most magazines make their money from advertisers. This is why my example of the village voice which is free. They pay the bills.
If your the CEO you have 2 options:
1.) Ban all advertisements and buy the units to review in secret which Consumer Reports does. The downside is price as you need a subscription that costs more than PC magazine to pay for this. Also you need a large reader base for this business model.
2.) Be honest and let the reporters do their job. Now you have peripheral makers like *cough* Dell/Alienware or Microsoft * cough* threaten to not let you review their products or pay you advertising revenue unless you say more positive things.
So your competitors get the first headline Windows VISTAXP 2.0 FIRST LOOK!! and you do not have it because Microsoft does not like you enough to give you the first alpha.
Ouch
3.) Play the middle of the road approach and let the reporters do their jobs but research advertisers first before printing. That way you do not lose revenues.
It sucks but that is life for those in the advertising industry. Its unethical but normal and very cut throat. If your competitors have more advertising revenue then they can put you under.
Readers dont care about reliable reporting or credibility. Look at Fox news or CNN?
The CEO was just doing his job and there is nothing unethical about it. I would have done the same if I were him.
His job was to bring in the most amount of money possible to his company from his customers. The customers are his advertisers. Most consumers like me have not read a pc magazine in many years thanks to slashdot and the internet because they are all biased.
The village voice and other alternative magazines that are free for many metros that were owned by the Village Voice brand had a similiar situation. They fired 1/4 of their staff for being too harsh on their advertisers and hired more friendly music critic writters to increase revenue. Its just business as usual and another example is the TV industry. How many headline news stories do you hear bashing an advertiser? None.
That has to be the weirdest most poorly written POS crap I ever read. Its silly in a non funny way.
Who believes in this garbage? LOL
I was wondering about this.
.net mobile. .Net mobile kicks ass but market share is way too limited to develop on it as it requires windows.
Why buy a sun phone? And if Sun is ready for an ajax and flash killer with javaFX then it needs to be ported to other operating systems for phones. It makes sense to develop an OS.
However it would be nicest to just develop JavaFX for multiple operating systems so it can become a standard. Otherwise it will be usless like
Punish those evil doers who dare excersize their right to sell property under the US consitution.
Next we can ban selling and buying used cars. The exercise costs the auto industry billions of un-verifible money from potential revenue every year. Poor starving automotive engineers and CEO's work very hard to design and build the latest cars that are copyrighted under US law thanks to selling used cars.
Infact just about everything is copyrighted so we should just ban the sale of anything used. Think about how many jobs we could create!
Remember when you buy a car you do not own it. You only own a copy of the car that is based in some secret location at the company's headquarters. Just read the EULA for MS Windows if you do not believe me when purchasing only copies of material and not the actual products.
Just hack the host file to point bankofamerica.bank to your IP Address. Phishing scheme done.
.com for sites on the web. So Grandma will still type bankofamerika.com by accident and get the false site even without hacking the host file.
Also people are used to using
Its not a foolproof solution at all.
Some folks recommended symbian or some weird name Linux.
:-)
I would recommend ubuntu Linux which is the most popular Linux on the planet and comes with Dell computers which another poster mentioned.
It has a software update manager which reminds you of recommended updated and will install them automatically over the web similiarly to WindowsUpdate on Windows. No need to compile anything and it uses binary drivers so you dont have to compile anything. The gnu free software zealots would consider it blasphemey since they want everything free but you at least can get things done quickly which I think is more beneficial for the community.
I felt uncomfortable around Linux too but I noticed the same feeling when I worked with MacOSX when I worked at a computer lab. Its change. Things work a bit different and familiarity is a plus. Gnome is standard with Ubuntu and I used to hate it. Now I love it and despise KDE which was my old favorite. Its what I am used too.
Whats great about Ubuntu is you can try it out without installing it. It has a livecd which is slow as mollasis but you can taste it and test your hardware before installing it. If you want to install it it will happily coexist with windows and install a menu which you can chose to boot during startup.
FYI I switched back to Windows recently after I found the fonts were not anti aligned nor cleartype with Openoffice unlike the win32 version. I still run it under the free vmware server for my laptop when I want to learn Apache/PHP/Jakarta but use Windows for c# and java desktop development. VMWare a great option too for experimenting and its free. I use it to run FreeDOS to play some old games too.
But it sucks less.
Of course that is also the argument for windows. Xorg is much better than xf86 and of course computers with gigs of ram and dual core processors are nice too.
I loved aqua for macosx but I guess X is here. The fonts are now getting usable for those used to them on windows or macosx though you need David Turners patches for real clear type rendering.
I have only seen Linux kernel panic once since 1999 because of a setting I did with the bios under kernel 2.0 that was my fault. Windows on the other hand crashes alot more often and has more security issues because things run in the kernel or ring0 which should not. Its very will layered. The apps on my linux distros are bleeding edge and suck compared to most commercial unix counterparts and even Windows but its well layers. Ubuntu, Debian, and RHES are the exceptions.
.... and of course the FreeBSD manual that came with the box is the best unix resource I ever read. Everything is just integrated and works and feels like one unified system.
I have switched to FreeBSD for awhile because I felt Linux lacked quality and a lack of design since it tends to evolve compared to the BSD family of operating systems which are designed
For the background here I started to use Linux around 1998 or 1999 and switched to FreeBSD in 2002 - 2005. I then switched to Ubuntu and then back to Windows but still run Ubuntu under the free VMWare Server on my laptop. I needed to learn Java for my MIS program and java reaks under any BSD so I switched back to Windows and then linux again.
Ubuntu is the only OS that feels BSDish in the way that everything is integrated and well tested with look and feel and quality.
Anyway I feel its very mature though the apps could be improved which is an argument for commercial unixies like Solaris on mission critical servers, but with distros like Ubuntu that problem is going away thanks to integrated bug reporting.d
Studies show they work in lower income schools with students who have no access to computers or the internet. If the kids already have that at home then they will use it as a toy rather than a tool
Sounds like the I.T. department of your company may need to sell themselves better.
Good I.T. helps them make money and not just save it by working computers.
How much money does your inhouse ERP apps bring? How about your wharehouse database that can be used to cut down misplaced inventory? How about your accounting apps that help the CFO find out which areas are hte most profitable?
Forecasting supply/demand apps?
These all make money and help streamline business processes and work with the CEO and his company.
Thats what CEO's want to hear and what a good I.T. department does in a fortune 1000 company.
Not that your high tech janitors like another poster mentioned, which in this case would mean its time to either move to India or update your resume because your a cost center.
I was looking at craigslist.com for webmaster and developers positions. Almost all of them demanded experience with search engine optimization as a must.
It was redicilious and its a race to the bottom because if they siteX doesn't do it then siteY a competitor will and take business away. Why pay google ads when you can spam and pay them?