Why you would run Windows on top of Linux, given...there are now FOSS alternatives for almost anything Windows can provide
Even if that were true, in practice companies don't just swap out production environments because alternatives potentially exist. What works well for you may be problematic in even a slightly different environment. Others have mentioned apps for which OSS interoperability isn't there yet, and I'd add Group Policies and other AD centric tech to the list (although I admittedly haven't checked out recent versions of Samba lately, so maybe I'm wrong on that). I'm as big of an OSS advocate as there is, but part of advocating effectively is knowing where limitations exist and dealing with them rationally rather than sugar-coating them. I agree with the gist of what you're saying though, and there are a lot of shops that could lower TCO by exploring the alternatives.
try configuring build settings and starting a build at the same time
When I read that, I couldn't help but think of this:
Zapp: The key to victory is discipline, and that means a well made bed. You will practice until you can make your bed in your sleep. Fry: You mean while I'm sleeping in it? Zapp: You won't have time for sleeping soldier, not with all the bed making you'll be doing.
Does anyone move into a room, office, flat and not think "that chair would look better there, we should have that colour for the walls and how about a pot plant?"?
Hey! We don't all get to live in Amsterdam, you know.:)
What, none of you still runs TeXtures in OS9 mode?:)
I know about Fink, iInstaller, and the various TeX distros and utilities available for the Mac. OS X is a great product, and I know lots of folks who happily do lots of TeX stuff under it. I was simply amused at the idea of being required to add in the core functionality you need to the OS you're switching to in order to have that functionality available in that OS.
I know just what you mean dude. It's like when my wife tries to buy me a 12-pack of beer at the store, and I'm forced to scoff at her naivete. Why would anyone buy beer in a convenient pre-packaged form when you can just as effectively brew your own? All you need is a huge pale, a siphon, a hydrometer, malt, hops, yeast, sugar, and water. It couldn't be simpler, really. I know that some pansies use fancy 'Microbrewery Kits', but that runs counter to the true spirit of the home-brew community if you ask me. The best part of course is that it's legal to give away your home brewed beer without paying royalties to Heineken or Guinness.
In the beginning we were all fish, OK, swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby and the retard baby was different so it got to live. So retard fish goes on to make more retard babies and then one day a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its mutant fish hands and it had butt-sex with a squirrel or something and made this retard frog-squirrel and then that had a retard baby, which was a monkey-fish-frog, and then this monkey-fish-frog bad butt-sex with that monkey and that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey and that made you.
So Linux is good, and it's *all* thanks to RedHat? No one else deserves credit.
Your paraphrasing skills need some work. This isn't what was stated or implied.
Do they have to take it to the point of saying 'there can be only one'?
What you're (intentionally?) leaving out is that they're referring to enterprise linux market 'players'. How many players are there now? Two by my count, but I'm not counting offerings such as Unbreakable (or even Ubuntu LTS) unless/until they gain meaningful traction in the market. I think RH is saying that they see the MS/Novell deal as the beginning of the end of Enterprise SuSE. Are they right? Who knows. Are they beating their chest? Probably. Regardless I think it's a stretch to claim that they're playing Highlander.
..at the general haughty nature of the posts. This is the same crowd that falls all over itself trying to come up with the most insipid 'Wii' jokes, isn't it?
Am I going crazy, or are the editors here getting geometrically worse over time?
No, the editors are only getting linearly worse over time. However, the general quality of the posts (and for that matter, the moderation) is getting exponentially worse, so maybe that's where the confusion comes from.:-)
Did they put the "Install Everything" button back in yet? If not, I'm not interested. Waaah!
New KDE, new Gnome, an updater, and CUPS? Yawn... Waaaaahh!
I switched to ${ANOTHER_DISTRO} and never looked back. Waaaaaaaaaahhhh!
If you are a KDE fan, than you're being shortchanged... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggghhhh!
I'm REALLY happy with FC5. I don't need FC6. Waaaah!!! Waaaah!!! Waaaaaaaaaaah!!!
The main problem I find with it is they seem too willing to update too quickly. Waaaah waaaah waaaah waaaah waaaah!!!!!
Out of the box, Totem can't play *anything*.. completely useless. Wah wah wah wah wah, wah wah wah, waaaaaaahhh!
Why do I have to type something at the command line to get basic multimedia support? Can't they just make a button... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHH HHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[DISCLAIMER: This post is a joke. This post is only a joke. Had this post been intended to deliver actual derision or condescension it would have been supported by bad analogies, the anecdotal 'evidence' of a single user, and/or numerous mentions of other Linux distributions that are not germane to the current discussion. I apologize preemptively if anyone's fragile psyche was offended by this post. Additionally, I don't really have the authority to speak on Artie Lange's behalf.]
I called Cingular and asked them whether they had a service for 'presshappy' people like myself to 'undelete' a voicemail in case of an emergency, and was brutally told that once a message is erased it's irretrievable.
Why couldn't Cingular have just arranged to have the NSA provide you one of their 'backups'?
Fuck Yeah Side Talking!
Just make sure they happen at night.
All your face are belong to us!
Why you would run Windows on top of Linux, given...there are now FOSS alternatives for almost anything Windows can provide
Even if that were true, in practice companies don't just swap out production environments because alternatives potentially exist. What works well for you may be problematic in even a slightly different environment. Others have mentioned apps for which OSS interoperability isn't there yet, and I'd add Group Policies and other AD centric tech to the list (although I admittedly haven't checked out recent versions of Samba lately, so maybe I'm wrong on that). I'm as big of an OSS advocate as there is, but part of advocating effectively is knowing where limitations exist and dealing with them rationally rather than sugar-coating them. I agree with the gist of what you're saying though, and there are a lot of shops that could lower TCO by exploring the alternatives.
try configuring build settings and starting a build at the same time
When I read that, I couldn't help but think of this:
Zapp: The key to victory is discipline, and that means a well made bed. You will practice until you can make your bed in your sleep.
Fry: You mean while I'm sleeping in it?
Zapp: You won't have time for sleeping soldier, not with all the bed making you'll be doing.
;-)
Does anyone move into a room, office, flat and not think "that chair would look better there, we should have that colour for the walls and how about a pot plant?"?
:)
Hey! We don't all get to live in Amsterdam, you know.
"Kif, clear my schedule."
...at least not to patent trolls.
Based on the fact that your user name is baboonlogic, your comment deserves "+6 Funny".
Just before launch, the 360 was a big joke on Slashdot. When the name was announced, there were jokes about Microsoft spinning in circles.
:)
At least we can all proudly say that none of us engaged in such childishness when Nintendo announced the name Wii.
I personally am that one dimensional, why wouldn't a number of others be?
:)
I'm trying to see your point, but it seems just beyond my grasp (almost as though it's just around some corner that I can't manage to see).
What, none of you still runs TeXtures in OS9 mode? :)
I know about Fink, iInstaller, and the various TeX distros and utilities available for the Mac. OS X is a great product, and I know lots of folks who happily do lots of TeX stuff under it. I was simply amused at the idea of being required to add in the core functionality you need to the OS you're switching to in order to have that functionality available in that OS.
Which TeX distro will he be working with right out of the box under OS X?
I know just what you mean dude. It's like when my wife tries to buy me a 12-pack of beer at the store, and I'm forced to scoff at her naivete. Why would anyone buy beer in a convenient pre-packaged form when you can just as effectively brew your own? All you need is a huge pale, a siphon, a hydrometer, malt, hops, yeast, sugar, and water. It couldn't be simpler, really. I know that some pansies use fancy 'Microbrewery Kits', but that runs counter to the true spirit of the home-brew community if you ask me. The best part of course is that it's legal to give away your home brewed beer without paying royalties to Heineken or Guinness.
:-)
In the beginning we were all fish, OK, swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby and the retard baby was different so it got to live. So retard fish goes on to make more retard babies and then one day a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its mutant fish hands and it had butt-sex with a squirrel or something and made this retard frog-squirrel and then that had a retard baby, which was a monkey-fish-frog, and then this monkey-fish-frog bad butt-sex with that monkey and that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey and that made you.
:-)
So Linux is good, and it's *all* thanks to RedHat? No one else deserves credit.
Your paraphrasing skills need some work. This isn't what was stated or implied.
Do they have to take it to the point of saying 'there can be only one'?
What you're (intentionally?) leaving out is that they're referring to enterprise linux market 'players'. How many players are there now? Two by my count, but I'm not counting offerings such as Unbreakable (or even Ubuntu LTS) unless/until they gain meaningful traction in the market. I think RH is saying that they see the MS/Novell deal as the beginning of the end of Enterprise SuSE. Are they right? Who knows. Are they beating their chest? Probably. Regardless I think it's a stretch to claim that they're playing Highlander.
Unfakeable Linux
..at the general haughty nature of the posts. This is the same crowd that falls all over itself trying to come up with the most insipid 'Wii' jokes, isn't it?
Amanda
A lot of people, especially young people, buy music for reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of the actual music...
:)
You misspelled shallow.
Am I going crazy, or are the editors here getting geometrically worse over time?
:-)
No, the editors are only getting linearly worse over time. However, the general quality of the posts (and for that matter, the moderation) is getting exponentially worse, so maybe that's where the confusion comes from.
...the average techno-gadget failure rate on something like this just yet."
;-)
Yeah, to be safe we'd better stick with the good old-fashioned armour-piercing variety of bullet.
...let me reply to some of the posts here:
H HHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did they put the "Install Everything" button back in yet? If not, I'm not interested.
Waaah!
New KDE, new Gnome, an updater, and CUPS? Yawn...
Waaaaahh!
I switched to ${ANOTHER_DISTRO} and never looked back.
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh!
If you are a KDE fan, than you're being shortchanged...
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggghhhh!
I'm REALLY happy with FC5. I don't need FC6.
Waaaah!!! Waaaah!!! Waaaaaaaaaaah!!!
The main problem I find with it is they seem too willing to update too quickly.
Waaaah waaaah waaaah waaaah waaaah!!!!!
Out of the box, Totem can't play *anything*.. completely useless.
Wah wah wah wah wah, wah wah wah, waaaaaaahhh!
Why do I have to type something at the command line to get basic multimedia support? Can't they just make a button...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGH
[DISCLAIMER: This post is a joke. This post is only a joke. Had this post been intended to deliver actual derision or condescension it would have been supported by bad analogies, the anecdotal 'evidence' of a single user, and/or numerous mentions of other Linux distributions that are not germane to the current discussion. I apologize preemptively if anyone's fragile psyche was offended by this post. Additionally, I don't really have the authority to speak on Artie Lange's behalf.]
I called Cingular and asked them whether they had a service for 'presshappy' people like myself to 'undelete' a voicemail in case of an emergency, and was brutally told that once a message is erased it's irretrievable.
Why couldn't Cingular have just arranged to have the NSA provide you one of their 'backups'?
Judging a book by its cover is old-fashioned. Judging a book by its title is where it's at nowadays.