How on earth is this story warrented on/.? Have you forgotten "News for nerds, stuff that matters?"
This is news, yes, and worthy of being published (issues of how the info was obtained aside)... but NOT on/..
Can we get back to tech news now?
Sigh, Diana could never figure it out...
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Robot Mine Smasher
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There's a *huge* difference in the way a structured, organized and trained military uses land mines and the way rival warlords and basic thugs use them.
US Army doctrine is *very* anal about landmines. You don't just turn one on and chuck it down with a chuckle.
For one, mines fields are generally surface laid. That's right, just sitting there in the open. Why, because US doctrine always covers minefields with a second method of fire (artillary, snipers, etc). When the war is over, you go out and collect up your mines.
Secondly, most modern mines are self detonating. That means in a set amount of time -- usually 4 hours to 2 weeks -- they go away. They're also surface laid (usually by aircraft). Don't stand near these mines.
Fianlly, if you do hide your mines that need to be completly mapped and documented. Why? Because YOU may be the one to remove them.
Remove them? Yes, all US mines are designed to be removed. Not so for the Soviet ones, oh dear.
Look at were there are mine problems, Cambodia, Afganistan, Kuwait, Korea. Only one of those is the fault of the US and guess what, those mine in those old-style "standard pattern" minefields are completly mapped.
In Cambodia and Afganistan, you can blame those poor starving peasants who, rather that wanting peace, would rather torture and mame each other. Plant random mines in a farm field, yeah, good idea. (um, not).
Finally, Kuwait. Kuwait doesn't have a much of a mine problem (relative to the others), why? They have money. But who do you blame for what mines they have? The Iraqis, duh. That finely tuned military machine that couldn't fight there way out of a paper bag laid crap loads of mines all over the place with no care as to where they were.
So this BS about the US not wanting to follow Diana's dream is a little misplaced.
Re:How a minefield is cleared by humans.
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Robot Mine Smasher
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Alright Mr. 12 Bravo, what happens when the little Japanese bot goes up against an M-19 or equivilent?
(Ok, I was a Combat Engineer too, and I *think* the M-19 is that really mean anti-tank mine with the oncave metal top.)
Basically fast hammer or no, I gotta think that lil robot is toast.
Anyone remember the "baked Apple" ads where some guy had his house burn down around his Apple II and after Apple replaced the melted case it worked fine.
Yeah, I know, the Palm is probably toast, but if it could be made to work, they have the coolest case mod ever:)
Actually you're right, my screwed up history is incorrect but that point is rather irrelevant.
My point was maybe the US really did want to simply hand out food. Actually, no, the US didn't want to, they were bullied into it by a bleeding heart world press and a like minded UN.
But please, feel free to replace my incorrectly dated humanitarian disaster in which the US did nothing with your own.
> Learn history, think about the facts, then comment.
While it is clear that BHD is prechewed goo fed to the "ignorant citizenry" your post goes a bit too far the other way.
In fact, US and UN troops waged an undeclared war against an Islamic African populace that was hostile to foreign interests.
Hmm, you starve 300,000 people and the US/UN force feeds them. You shoot at the US/UN, they shoot back. Sorry, you die now.
Several US oil companies
Oh my God, not the oil thing again. The US wanted Iraq for the oil, Somolia for the oil, Afganistan for the oil, Japan for the oil, Germany for the oil, the fucking indians in the 1870's west for the oil. Give it a break, will ya?
Could it be that maaaaybe, just maaaaybe, after watching 100,000 Rwandans get hacked up on CNN that the US really wanted to just hand out food to the Somalians? Is that so hard to accept?
Prompted by a Somalian ambush on June 5 that killed more than 20 Pakistani soldiers
What, your plan was to call Adid and say, hey, nice shootin? In war (and no, when Rangers are on the ground they're not there to feed the hungry) the language is force. Speak it or die. That was the standard set not by the US/UN but by Adid and the other militias.
Specific war crimes of US forces
Ah yes, the war crimes of the US forces. Simply put, when the US kills non-combatants (families, kids on school busses, unarmed, teenagers at parties etc), it's generally due to bad aim, aka a "miss". When the Somalies, Afgans, Iraqis or Palestinians kill non-combatants it's called good aim, or a "hit".
Only one is a war crime.
they fired on crowds and eventually at anyone and anything they saw
Lemmee see. A crazed crowd that wants to rip me into little pieces, I have a SAW (machine gun) and 1200 rounds of ammo. Hmmm, I don't know, fire until I'm out of ammo, or go ask them to tea. What would YOU do?
Oh wait, I know, you'd stand up and say, "Sorry, can't we all just get alo... (umph, gag, hack, chop, squeal, thump)"
Hollywood to the rescue
Well, sadly I must agree with you here.
one of the most violent films ever released by a major studio
Oh hardly. Oh that's right, when they're artsy or "cutting edge" it's OK to kill people (think anything by Tarantino)
There is no "leave no man behind", that's Hollywood oversimplifying the Ranger Creed for er... an ignorant citizenry.
The Ranger Creed:
Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession. I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high "esprit de corps" of the Rangers.
Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a
more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting
edge of battle by land, sea, or air. I accept
the fact that as a Ranger my country expects
me to move further, faster, and fight harder
than any other soldier.
Never shall I fail my comrades I will always
keep myself mentally alert, physically
strong, and morally straight and I will
shoulder more than my share of the tasks
whatever it may be. One hundred percent and
then some.
Gallantly will I show the world that I am a
specially selected and well trained soldier.
My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of
dress, and care of equipment shall set the
example for others to follow.
Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word, I will never leave fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.
Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.
I mean really. You spout off your 5 years of experience at the age of 20. Did you go to high school? How did you work full time and attend high school at 15?
Exagerating a bit maybe?
It may be that you really are an arrogant prick and therefore the bosses boss (or whatever) doesn't like you.
You may be smart.
You may be qualified.
But you may be a jerk so others don't want to play with you.
Look. When I was 28 I had a job where I was the youngest tech person by far. It was very hard for me NOT to come off as an arrogant asshole in front of my 50-year-old dinosaur coworkers.
I figured it out when later I had a job working with a 19 year old asshole. He knew everything except how to shut up. This reflected on him very poorly.
I really, really wanted to like it. I did, honest.
I went in knowing it wouldn't be perfect, I figured it would be simply the LOTR story as told be a different storyteller.
But I came away somewhat saddened by it.
When it started I was hooked, I *loved* first part, with the history and the stuff with Gandalf in the Shire and the party and all... and then the Bastardization of Saruman happened.
Oh gawd, that was horrible. Anything involving Saruman sucked. Ok, not the destruction around his tower, boy the Ents are gonna be pissed about that:). But they totally simplefied Saruman's treason to a huge fault.
And the whole handling of Orcs was IMHO kinda lame. In the books Orcs actually have conversations... in the movie they can hardly grunt the word "halfling".
And I couldn't get past Agent Elrond. And the sappy love stuff. What the hell was that? And the crossing of the Ford... huh? Pretty much the whole Rivendell part was weak.
Past that, the Moria part was pretty cool, not accurate to the book at all, but very cool nonetheless (goes back to that different storyteller thing).
Boromere's death was well done... still fighting with those huge arrows sticking out of him... yikes.
So there was actually quite a bit of book mangling going on -- some that made sense (no Tom Bombadil), some that didn't (Saruman). Unfortunatly (for me) even though there were some really awesome parts, the overall story damage was a bit too much.
Ok, this really isn't a troll, I'm really curious here: who actually *uses* Solaris?
Solaris has IMHO been what you run other stuff on top of... Oracle for instance or some custom, mission critical app or something (or web servers if you have too much money). Solaris has always been a kind of painfull, stripped down OS when compared to modern Linux or *BSDs.
Ok, here it is in a nutshell. You can put an Open Source-based IPSec gateway immediatly upstream of your wireless AP... or better yet, simply put a wireless card in a Linux box... and secure your wireless with an IPSec tunnel.
This protects your network, your traffic and if the hosts are configured properly... your clients. Way better than the mess that Nasa came up with.
I am currently setting up a Linux/FreeSwan device for my employer's wireless and I have a similar OpenBSD IPSec setup at home.
I also have a floppy-based Linux "access-point" that I'm trying to integrate FreeSwan with that will offer the same thing for anyone.
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It needs those dog training shock things... then reality would really bite.
Is Mandrake and Raster.
How on earth is this story warrented on /.? Have you forgotten "News for nerds, stuff that matters?"
/..
This is news, yes, and worthy of being published (issues of how the info was obtained aside)... but NOT on
Can we get back to tech news now?
There's a *huge* difference in the way a structured, organized and trained military uses land mines and the way rival warlords and basic thugs use them.
US Army doctrine is *very* anal about landmines. You don't just turn one on and chuck it down with a chuckle.
For one, mines fields are generally surface laid. That's right, just sitting there in the open. Why, because US doctrine always covers minefields with a second method of fire (artillary, snipers, etc). When the war is over, you go out and collect up your mines.
Secondly, most modern mines are self detonating. That means in a set amount of time -- usually 4 hours to 2 weeks -- they go away. They're also surface laid (usually by aircraft). Don't stand near these mines.
Fianlly, if you do hide your mines that need to be completly mapped and documented. Why? Because YOU may be the one to remove them.
Remove them? Yes, all US mines are designed to be removed. Not so for the Soviet ones, oh dear.
Look at were there are mine problems, Cambodia, Afganistan, Kuwait, Korea. Only one of those is the fault of the US and guess what, those mine in those old-style "standard pattern" minefields are completly mapped.
In Cambodia and Afganistan, you can blame those poor starving peasants who, rather that wanting peace, would rather torture and mame each other. Plant random mines in a farm field, yeah, good idea. (um, not).
Finally, Kuwait. Kuwait doesn't have a much of a mine problem (relative to the others), why? They have money. But who do you blame for what mines they have? The Iraqis, duh. That finely tuned military machine that couldn't fight there way out of a paper bag laid crap loads of mines all over the place with no care as to where they were.
So this BS about the US not wanting to follow Diana's dream is a little misplaced.
Alright Mr. 12 Bravo, what happens when the little Japanese bot goes up against an M-19 or equivilent?
(Ok, I was a Combat Engineer too, and I *think* the M-19 is that really mean anti-tank mine with the oncave metal top.)
Basically fast hammer or no, I gotta think that lil robot is toast.
No mention if they flicked it on.
:)
Anyone remember the "baked Apple" ads where some guy had his house burn down around his Apple II and after Apple replaced the melted case it worked fine.
Yeah, I know, the Palm is probably toast, but if it could be made to work, they have the coolest case mod ever
Personally I'd probebly never use IPF over PF but oddly, IPF has been banned from the official ports tree.
/usr/ports/security/ipf && make install'
Yeah, a port could be made, but there will never be 'cd
In a move I certainly don't agree with it was deemed that there would be no IPF in the ports tree.
While I think that Darren needs to seek serious psycological help, banning IPF from the ports tree was dumb.
Methinks we will soon see if Theo's ISO image layout copyright hold, no?
> BTW, what is the current packet-filter in the official OpenBSD 3.0 release (as ipfilter is out) ?
It's simply called pf and it's custom to OpenBSD.
Actually you're right, my screwed up history is incorrect but that point is rather irrelevant.
My point was maybe the US really did want to simply hand out food. Actually, no, the US didn't want to, they were bullied into it by a bleeding heart world press and a like minded UN.
But please, feel free to replace my incorrectly dated humanitarian disaster in which the US did nothing with your own.
> Learn history, think about the facts, then comment.
You first.
In fact, US and UN troops waged an undeclared war against an Islamic African populace that was hostile to foreign interests.
Hmm, you starve 300,000 people and the US/UN force feeds them. You shoot at the US/UN, they shoot back. Sorry, you die now.
Several US oil companies
Oh my God, not the oil thing again. The US wanted Iraq for the oil, Somolia for the oil, Afganistan for the oil, Japan for the oil, Germany for the oil, the fucking indians in the 1870's west for the oil. Give it a break, will ya?
Could it be that maaaaybe, just maaaaybe, after watching 100,000 Rwandans get hacked up on CNN that the US really wanted to just hand out food to the Somalians? Is that so hard to accept?
Prompted by a Somalian ambush on June 5 that killed more than 20 Pakistani soldiers
What, your plan was to call Adid and say, hey, nice shootin? In war (and no, when Rangers are on the ground they're not there to feed the hungry) the language is force. Speak it or die. That was the standard set not by the US/UN but by Adid and the other militias.
Specific war crimes of US forces
Ah yes, the war crimes of the US forces. Simply put, when the US kills non-combatants (families, kids on school busses, unarmed, teenagers at parties etc), it's generally due to bad aim, aka a "miss". When the Somalies, Afgans, Iraqis or Palestinians kill non-combatants it's called good aim, or a "hit".
Only one is a war crime.
they fired on crowds and eventually at anyone and anything they saw
Lemmee see. A crazed crowd that wants to rip me into little pieces, I have a SAW (machine gun) and 1200 rounds of ammo. Hmmm, I don't know, fire until I'm out of ammo, or go ask them to tea. What would YOU do?
Oh wait, I know, you'd stand up and say, "Sorry, can't we all just get alo... (umph, gag, hack, chop, squeal, thump)"
Hollywood to the rescue
Well, sadly I must agree with you here.
one of the most violent films ever released by a major studio
Oh hardly. Oh that's right, when they're artsy or "cutting edge" it's OK to kill people (think anything by Tarantino)
Subtext two: "Those damned ungrateful foreigners."
I can see that, but I see that everytime a video of bin Laden is shown :)
Subtext four: "Kill Arabs."
Uh, that was already handled on 9/11
Coming out of that movie I simply thought, dispite all the cool green CNN footage, people die in war and often grotesqly.
There's nothing wrong with that message, ever.
The Ranger Creed:
Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession. I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high "esprit de corps" of the Rangers.
Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air. I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster, and fight harder than any other soldier.
Never shall I fail my comrades I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong, and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the tasks whatever it may be. One hundred percent and then some.
Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress, and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.
Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word, I will never leave fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.
Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.
Erm, isn't 2.4 supposed to be stable?
I mean really. You spout off your 5 years of experience at the age of 20. Did you go to high school? How did you work full time and attend high school at 15? Exagerating a bit maybe?
It may be that you really are an arrogant prick and therefore the bosses boss (or whatever) doesn't like you.
You may be smart.
You may be qualified.
But you may be a jerk so others don't want to play with you.
Look. When I was 28 I had a job where I was the youngest tech person by far. It was very hard for me NOT to come off as an arrogant asshole in front of my 50-year-old dinosaur coworkers.
I figured it out when later I had a job working with a 19 year old asshole. He knew everything except how to shut up. This reflected on him very poorly.
Are you sure this isn't you?
I really, really wanted to like it. I did, honest.
:). But they totally simplefied Saruman's treason to a huge fault.
I went in knowing it wouldn't be perfect, I figured it would be simply the LOTR story as told be a different storyteller.
But I came away somewhat saddened by it.
When it started I was hooked, I *loved* first part, with the history and the stuff with Gandalf in the Shire and the party and all... and then the Bastardization of Saruman happened.
Oh gawd, that was horrible. Anything involving Saruman sucked. Ok, not the destruction around his tower, boy the Ents are gonna be pissed about that
And the whole handling of Orcs was IMHO kinda lame. In the books Orcs actually have conversations... in the movie they can hardly grunt the word "halfling".
And I couldn't get past Agent Elrond. And the sappy love stuff. What the hell was that? And the crossing of the Ford... huh? Pretty much the whole Rivendell part was weak.
Past that, the Moria part was pretty cool, not accurate to the book at all, but very cool nonetheless (goes back to that different storyteller thing).
Boromere's death was well done... still fighting with those huge arrows sticking out of him... yikes.
So there was actually quite a bit of book mangling going on -- some that made sense (no Tom Bombadil), some that didn't (Saruman). Unfortunatly (for me) even though there were some really awesome parts, the overall story damage was a bit too much.
Ok, this really isn't a troll, I'm really curious here: who actually *uses* Solaris?
Solaris has IMHO been what you run other stuff on top of... Oracle for instance or some custom, mission critical app or something (or web servers if you have too much money). Solaris has always been a kind of painfull, stripped down OS when compared to modern Linux or *BSDs.
But you don't actually USE Solaris. Do you?
If so, why?
Post a link, man.
I just saw PGPNet 7.1 ONLY for $60 for a two year contract. This was from PGP too.
With the 7.1 series they split apart the entire PGP Desktop package are (were) selling the peices individually.
$30? I don't think so.
So what about the one who was on an FBI watch list and um... they lost him?
Isn't that exactly what you're talking about?
The 11th Armor Cavalry Regiment (US Army) uses that black horse for their shoulder patches (granted it's on a red & white field and not a yellow one).
:).
I guess copyright doesn't apply if you have a Bradley
Lemesee, the Taliban/Mujahadeen killed 16,000 Soviets over 10 years by hiding in caves and with massive support from the US CIA.
The Viet Cong, OTOH, had far less Soviet support, killed 58,000 US soldiers over 10 years and HAD TO DIG THEIR OWN CAVES (tunnels).
Given the choice, I'd much rather face the Taleban.
Ok, here it is in a nutshell. You can put an Open Source-based IPSec gateway immediatly upstream of your wireless AP... or better yet, simply put a wireless card in a Linux box... and secure your wireless with an IPSec tunnel.
This protects your network, your traffic and if the hosts are configured properly... your clients. Way better than the mess that Nasa came up with.
I am currently setting up a Linux/FreeSwan device for my employer's wireless and I have a similar OpenBSD IPSec setup at home.
I also have a floppy-based Linux "access-point" that I'm trying to integrate FreeSwan with that will offer the same thing for anyone.
Anyone interested?
Actually I'm in the process of setting up wireless gateways using a linux kernel, busybox, iptables, dhcpd and freeswan.
:)).
:(
The security comes from IPSec. It also works with OpenBSD (tho Open is hard to fit on a single floppy
Still not ready for public release tho
Someone deleted /dev/null and rebooted... your pager is going off... what do you do.
It's a Linux box...
No wait... it's a Solaris box.
Cool, you gotta free 802.11b network, I hop on and proceed crack a half a dozen sites and then launch a DDoS against /. for good measure.
When the police knock on YOUR door, what do you tell them?
"I wasn't me, honest! I run a free service! No really!"
Nevermind that, what do you say to the Adobe lawyers when the Illustrator sites gets defaced from your net?