I mean, it's shaky..
If they put up a site, and just let people 'do whatever'...
Thing is... I mean, I think entrapment is wrong.
But... I think there is some legal (and common sense) validity to allowing them to pose as drug dealers, or put up a warez site, or whatever, to catch people. I mean, in one sense, they are encouraging it.. but in another, they are merely posing as one of many, many such sites out there. In other words, it's fairly easy to see they are not trying to 'trick' someone into doing something they would not otherwise do.
>such as agents raiding a house and watching what connections happened without pulling the plug. That can't be legal, can it
By what logic? They are observing illegal activity taking place. They did not put up the site, they did not instigate people to use it, it's not entrapment.
That's like saying watching a drug transaction go down to find out who is involved instead of stopping it is illegal.
Okay. I'm all for preventing MS world domination...
But they already *have* all the info about all the players... it's all cosmetic.
They could correlate all their back end database info *anyway*.. this just makes it easier for them.
rlogin and telnet are 'insecure' in that data transmitted over them is insecure; this is known.. and ssh2 is a good alternative.
This buffer overflow bug is no different than those found in ssh previously...
so saying that 'You shouldn't be running telnet' is bullshit.
You shouldn't be USING telnet for anything you don't want sniffed is more accurate. Running it is only a problem in that it's yet one more available service.
I don't even hide behind the 'try before you buy' crap. Yes.. it's true, definately. I've definately used warez copies at work to try out software before buying it, because it's a royal pain in the ass to get a demo copy from the company in question.. and we definately DID buy the software, or get rid of it afterwards.
This whole thing isn't about businesses though.
One warez kiddie sharing his hoard with another warez kiddie, who form a 'group' and start sharing their warez with other groups.... the number of copies goes up and up. but nobody actually USES the stuff.. they just want to have it... to touch it, be part of the process. Look how many.nfo files you have to read in a given warez?Look how many levels of zip/rar on each warez issue? IT's silly. It's a big game.. nothing more.
I wasn't comparing the acts as far as legality.. just the mentality of the collector. I did NOT buy all my Magic: The Gathering cards in order to 'support' wizards of the coast.. I bought them, traded for them, gambled for them so I could posess a good collection, better than my peers.. period. The fact that I paid for them with money was merely a convenience.
With warez.. its' MUCH MUCH more convenient to copy the stuff than it is to try to order it, yes?
A warez kiddie *will* pay for the equipment/bandwidth/media he needs, and invest tons of time into building his hoard. He just won't buy the software (because he actually doesn't want it.. he just wants to say he HAS it.)
First.. these groups get busted. Okay. Well.. they *are* knowingly spreading massive amounts of copyrighted material, which IS illegal... sure.. we all do it.. but they can't say 'Oh gee, I didn't know'.
Second.. it IS rediculous to claim 'billions' in losses because of them. I've seen my fair share of warez groups.. they hoard software so they can be bigger & better than the next guy. Almost nothing actually gets USED by anyone, even those downloading it.
And of all the pirated software I've seen used by most people.. only a fraction actually comes from the warez scene.. lots are just directly burned CDs.
Warez kiddies hoard software like other kids hoard baseball cards, or pokemon, or whatever the new craze is. It's about who can hoard more.. it's not even about theft.
though not implemented yet, is to use more hard drives. It's by far the cheapest way to go, and much more flexible than other media.
I had a look and realized I'm going to have close to a terabyte of data in the next 12 months or so... and no way to really back it up.
An extra storage box, separate from everything else, where backup archival copies are kept. One full backup + many incrementals per physical drive in the backup unit.
This will be a unit that is only accessed via backup jobs.. it's not going to be 'used' for anything else. Storage is cheap enough nowadays.
what if I'm specifically buying a machine to run linux? The MS monopoly is screwing me over in this case.. because I *can't* avoid giving them my money, even if I don't want it.
Paypal is not an escrow service.
Paypal is not a bank.
Paypal is not a credit card company.
Paypal IS convenient, and easy to start using for the merchant.
Paypal DOES take a larger chunk of your money than, say, VISA would.
Given that.. you should be able to figure out what the right thing to do is.
The same old method still works online you know...
If you don't like the way the store treats you, don't shop there.
I don't know about everyone else.. but when I go to a site online that has really annoying ads, I tend to avoid it in the future.
Maybe they used the STAMP because it was readily available, and easy to make changes to while in development?
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Cars *actually* run on pure, native instructions, for some kind of embedded processor. They may use an RTOS....who knows.
I certainly woudl not want linux running my car.
It's amazing you can narrow cosmology down to something so simple.
I bet none of the scientists who have devoted their lives to research on the matter ever considered maybe some planets we can't see make up for all that missing matter in their math. I bet they never even considered it..
And your little quote of Occam's Razor is incorrect. The real quote is more like
"All other things being equal, the simplest explanation is likely the right one"
but why is this news? I mean, I know I sound like a troll..
It's been coming for months; anyone can go find this out for themselves. Stockholders will already be notified..
How on earth is VA changing it's name slightly a newsworthy article?
Seriously... slashdot has been going downhill.. the number of quality articles has been going down, down down....
It's not even funny. The editors don't edit.. the titles are often sensationalist and misleading. They are often full of grammatical errors, as well as syntactical ones.
Sure, I might make mistakes.. but I'm not the editor..
C'mon guys. Let's get back to posting nerd news that MATTERS, and having some intelligent discussion.
Because.. from RMS point of view, Linux is a kernel, and it uses a lot of GNU. Without GNU, linux wouldn't be what it is. That's why.
He does not insist on calling the *kernel* GNU/Linux. He said the whole operating system, because it's got so much of the GNU system in it, should be GNU/Linux.
Yes.. that part is clear. But when you get into them discussing JINI and all their other 'technologies'... it's confusing.
Hey. Maybe I'm just stupid, and everyone else gets it. I'm just saying that one reason I found java difficult to accept was the fact that sun threw so much buzz at it.
RMS wants GNU plastered on everything that is part of the GNU project, not everything that uses the gpl. In fact, I believe you CAN'T call something 'GNU myproject' unless the rights are handed over to the FSF.
It restricts derived works.
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It requires derived works to be labeled as such, and credit to the original authors be given, and several other things along those lines.
Now.. those are all fair, and nice.. but are in conflict with the 'free software' guidelines.
I still maintian, though, Documentation is not Software... and to treat it by the same standards is wrong.
The main problems I see are the marketing, and the definition of 'Internet'.
Now.. I know, to us geeks.. when we think 'Internet Provider' we think, someone to provide us with a connection, and to route us some IP. Period. We also expect them to have (or delegate to us) proper reverse-DNS. ANd that's ALL we require. Now.. we sort of expect them to have DNS servers for us to use with our resolvers, because that's just traditional (not to mention easy to do), but that's only a convenience. As is the outgoing mail server, and incoming mail services.
Now we have ISP's selling you on their 'content' or their 'portal'. WE have ISP's refusing to allow SMTP connections through anything but their own mail server... and the list goes on.
So how do we get out of this mess? How do we make a clean separation between routing IP and all the other services they can provide? I know we geeks would love to see an ISP with modularized service. You get 1 IP with your connection, and that's it. No other services are provided by the ISP. Then the ISP could sell web space, email accounts, webmail, portals, high-speed local content, etc.
Oh.. and regarding those 'useless' services many of us don't use (like your 10MB web space, or 5 email accounts). A friend of mine moved, and was looking for a new connection. He asked the Telus people (Alberta, Canada) "Hey, can I trade my 10MB web space for a static IP?" They said "Sure". THat's the kind of thing I'd like to see.
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I mean, it's shaky..
If they put up a site, and just let people 'do whatever'...
Thing is... I mean, I think entrapment is wrong.
But... I think there is some legal (and common sense) validity to allowing them to pose as drug dealers, or put up a warez site, or whatever, to catch people. I mean, in one sense, they are encouraging it.. but in another, they are merely posing as one of many, many such sites out there. In other words, it's fairly easy to see they are not trying to 'trick' someone into doing something they would not otherwise do.
because we can much more efficiently turn that microwave radiation into electricity?
IT's a different frequency.. we can much more efficiently use it to transmit power.
>such as agents raiding a house and watching what connections happened without pulling the plug. That can't be legal, can it
By what logic? They are observing illegal activity taking place. They did not put up the site, they did not instigate people to use it, it's not entrapment.
That's like saying watching a drug transaction go down to find out who is involved instead of stopping it is illegal.
Okay. I'm all for preventing MS world domination...
But they already *have* all the info about all the players... it's all cosmetic.
They could correlate all their back end database info *anyway*.. this just makes it easier for them.
rlogin and telnet are 'insecure' in that data transmitted over them is insecure; this is known.. and ssh2 is a good alternative.
This buffer overflow bug is no different than those found in ssh previously...
so saying that 'You shouldn't be running telnet' is bullshit.
You shouldn't be USING telnet for anything you don't want sniffed is more accurate. Running it is only a problem in that it's yet one more available service.
Err.. no...
'file' determines the file type by magic number.. not linux.
I don't even hide behind the 'try before you buy' crap. Yes.. it's true, definately. I've definately used warez copies at work to try out software before buying it, because it's a royal pain in the ass to get a demo copy from the company in question.. and we definately DID buy the software, or get rid of it afterwards.
.nfo files you have to read in a given warez?Look how many levels of zip/rar on each warez issue? IT's silly. It's a big game.. nothing more.
This whole thing isn't about businesses though.
One warez kiddie sharing his hoard with another warez kiddie, who form a 'group' and start sharing their warez with other groups.... the number of copies goes up and up. but nobody actually USES the stuff.. they just want to have it... to touch it, be part of the process. Look how many
I wasn't comparing the acts as far as legality.. just the mentality of the collector. I did NOT buy all my Magic: The Gathering cards in order to 'support' wizards of the coast.. I bought them, traded for them, gambled for them so I could posess a good collection, better than my peers.. period. The fact that I paid for them with money was merely a convenience.
With warez.. its' MUCH MUCH more convenient to copy the stuff than it is to try to order it, yes?
A warez kiddie *will* pay for the equipment/bandwidth/media he needs, and invest tons of time into building his hoard. He just won't buy the software (because he actually doesn't want it.. he just wants to say he HAS it.)
Firstly.. my take on warez.....
here's the thing.
First.. these groups get busted. Okay. Well.. they *are* knowingly spreading massive amounts of copyrighted material, which IS illegal... sure.. we all do it.. but they can't say 'Oh gee, I didn't know'.
Second.. it IS rediculous to claim 'billions' in losses because of them. I've seen my fair share of warez groups.. they hoard software so they can be bigger & better than the next guy. Almost nothing actually gets USED by anyone, even those downloading it.
And of all the pirated software I've seen used by most people.. only a fraction actually comes from the warez scene.. lots are just directly burned CDs.
Warez kiddies hoard software like other kids hoard baseball cards, or pokemon, or whatever the new craze is. It's about who can hoard more.. it's not even about theft.
though not implemented yet, is to use more hard drives. It's by far the cheapest way to go, and much more flexible than other media.
I had a look and realized I'm going to have close to a terabyte of data in the next 12 months or so... and no way to really back it up.
An extra storage box, separate from everything else, where backup archival copies are kept. One full backup + many incrementals per physical drive in the backup unit.
This will be a unit that is only accessed via backup jobs.. it's not going to be 'used' for anything else. Storage is cheap enough nowadays.
what if I'm specifically buying a machine to run linux? The MS monopoly is screwing me over in this case.. because I *can't* avoid giving them my money, even if I don't want it.
THAT is the problem.
Paypal is not an escrow service.
Paypal is not a bank.
Paypal is not a credit card company.
Paypal IS convenient, and easy to start using for the merchant.
Paypal DOES take a larger chunk of your money than, say, VISA would.
Given that.. you should be able to figure out what the right thing to do is.
They most certainly ARE low voltage.
You don't get 200+ volt spikes on phone lines.
The only time you get AC with any voltage is during the ring-trip.
I've run buildings with miles of unshielded cat5.. so what do you mean? In fact.. isn't the spec for cat5 unshielded twisted-pair?
The same old method still works online you know...
If you don't like the way the store treats you, don't shop there.
I don't know about everyone else.. but when I go to a site online that has really annoying ads, I tend to avoid it in the future.
Maybe they used the STAMP because it was readily available, and easy to make changes to while in development?
Cars *actually* run on pure, native instructions, for some kind of embedded processor. They may use an RTOS....who knows.
I certainly woudl not want linux running my car.
It's amazing you can narrow cosmology down to something so simple.
I bet none of the scientists who have devoted their lives to research on the matter ever considered maybe some planets we can't see make up for all that missing matter in their math. I bet they never even considered it..
And your little quote of Occam's Razor is incorrect. The real quote is more like
"All other things being equal, the simplest explanation is likely the right one"
but why is this news? I mean, I know I sound like a troll..
It's been coming for months; anyone can go find this out for themselves. Stockholders will already be notified..
How on earth is VA changing it's name slightly a newsworthy article?
Seriously... slashdot has been going downhill.. the number of quality articles has been going down, down down....
It's not even funny. The editors don't edit.. the titles are often sensationalist and misleading. They are often full of grammatical errors, as well as syntactical ones.
Sure, I might make mistakes.. but I'm not the editor..
C'mon guys. Let's get back to posting nerd news that MATTERS, and having some intelligent discussion.
Because.. from RMS point of view, Linux is a kernel, and it uses a lot of GNU. Without GNU, linux wouldn't be what it is. That's why.
.but I see his point.
He does not insist on calling the *kernel* GNU/Linux. He said the whole operating system, because it's got so much of the GNU system in it, should be GNU/Linux.
I disagree.
Yes.. that part is clear. But when you get into them discussing JINI and all their other 'technologies'... it's confusing.
Hey. Maybe I'm just stupid, and everyone else gets it. I'm just saying that one reason I found java difficult to accept was the fact that sun threw so much buzz at it.
Yes, I see the irony.. however.
RMS wants GNU plastered on everything that is part of the GNU project, not everything that uses the gpl. In fact, I believe you CAN'T call something 'GNU myproject' unless the rights are handed over to the FSF.
It requires derived works to be labeled as such, and credit to the original authors be given, and several other things along those lines.
Now.. those are all fair, and nice.. but are in conflict with the 'free software' guidelines.
I still maintian, though, Documentation is not Software... and to treat it by the same standards is wrong.
Documentation is not Software.. so why does it have to follow the free software guidelines?
The main problems I see are the marketing, and the definition of 'Internet'.
Now.. I know, to us geeks.. when we think 'Internet Provider' we think, someone to provide us with a connection, and to route us some IP. Period. We also expect them to have (or delegate to us) proper reverse-DNS. ANd that's ALL we require. Now.. we sort of expect them to have DNS servers for us to use with our resolvers, because that's just traditional (not to mention easy to do), but that's only a convenience. As is the outgoing mail server, and incoming mail services.
Now we have ISP's selling you on their 'content' or their 'portal'. WE have ISP's refusing to allow SMTP connections through anything but their own mail server... and the list goes on.
So how do we get out of this mess? How do we make a clean separation between routing IP and all the other services they can provide? I know we geeks would love to see an ISP with modularized service. You get 1 IP with your connection, and that's it. No other services are provided by the ISP. Then the ISP could sell web space, email accounts, webmail, portals, high-speed local content, etc.
Oh.. and regarding those 'useless' services many of us don't use (like your 10MB web space, or 5 email accounts). A friend of mine moved, and was looking for a new connection. He asked the Telus people (Alberta, Canada) "Hey, can I trade my 10MB web space for a static IP?" They said "Sure". THat's the kind of thing I'd like to see.