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I'm having a hard time believing that Al Qaeda is capable of anything along these lines.
So they have towels on their heads, hide in caves and currently live somewhere between Afghanistan and Pakistan - so this makes them stupid, right?
Whatever. Have you forgotten that these people managed to simultaneously hijack FOUR aircraft, in a country with absurdly tight border restrictions, keep the whole thing quiet from an increasingly Orwellian state, run the whole gig on a budget of eighty dollars and five camels AND get away with it? Hmm? Do I see Osama Bin Laden's head mounted on a plaque in the oval office? Quite.
Thing 2 - Sysadmin's are notoriously lazy, particularly Microsoft ones. Count the number of no brainer hacks we've had over the last, say, two years: Default passwords on SQL servers, unpatched IIS installations by their thousands... Not to mention the notoriously bad security record of the vendor itself.
Not that you need to actually attack anything, don't forget that the multi billion dollar Yahoo! empire was reduced to rubble by some kid in fuckwad Arizona calling himself "Mafiaboy". And he bragged about it on IRC, hardly the gold standard in attempting to get away with things.
Fucks' sake, A "cyber attack" is so thoroughly within the reach of Al Queda that the only reason I can suggest that they've not done it is that they've been busy regrouping after their previous hosts, the Taliban, had their arses royally kicked a few months back.
You think they're going to run forever? Grow up America. You're not as smart as you think you are, and you're very much a target. Have a nice day.
Fuck, that was great. 1745Hp (with the big turbo), wheel spinning all the way down the first straight of the test course, eventual top whack of 471Km/hr.
Ah yeah, right you are... I should learn to read properly.
But (putting my trolling hat on) doesn't the continued development of a "so bleeding edge it's off the knife" tarkin mean run contrary to Xiph's aim of establishing open source de-facto standards?
Java has been relegated to web services, where it's just barely holding its own against ASP and PHP.
They are in very different territories though. PHP is still (mostly) a hack-a-thon language with little or no attention paid to long term maintainability, error handling or scaleability. Not that scaleability is a problem in a world with hardware load balancers, but I digress.
Other than that I thoroughly agree with you. Client side Java sucked anyway.
I'm a recently recanted Java hater. Hell, I got paid good money for coding in Java and was a Java hater for all of that, so this is no minor thing. Point is that these days Java advocacy generally doesn't wind me up, but that.... some of that.... was total shit. For instance:
Correctly written programs in java are almost impossible to distinguish from their counterparts.
They run at half the speed of a C++ app on a good day. Add to this the fact that the JIT/VM code sits in the processors L1/L2 cache, reducing the applications cache hits significantly. Add to this the far, far larger memory footprint whacking memory bandwidth... nasty stuff.
It is less slower than C than C is slower than assembler.
There's actually an ongoing rumour that C, with the right compiler, is now faster than assembler. This is to do with the compiler having a much better idea how the processor's pipeline is built than a person, being able parallelise data automagically, and (in some cases) drop in MMX/SIMD instructions where appropriate.
That being said Java is a lot faster than it was.
Java is prospering in cellphones, pda's
Java is prospering in cellphone and pda vapourware. When Nokia suss that a java application drains the battery at least twice as fast as it's C counterpart it'll be adios to our friends with p-code, I'm afraid. You want to see where cellphones are going? Talk to the guys at Symbian.
That's little to pay for not having to port apps
Did you learn nothing from the WAP debacle? Applications have to be written completely differently when you contol a 2" screen with your thumbs.
OK, enough. I like Java because it pisses Microsoft off and has immeasurably better standards support. But it needs to know it's place - a glorified scripting language.
It strikes me that there might be some quite serious money in these "agreements with Microsoft". In a post dotcom world, it's a pretty plausible business plan:
* Find holes in MS software. * Publicise them frantically. * Come to "an agreement". * Kachingggggg!
$250k? Working? For 1500kloc? So you're assuming 6 working lines of code/dollar... at the $150/man hour they're paying the outsourcing company that works out as 900loc/man hour. Working. Debugged, fixed, documented, with regression tests, everything. No fucking way. Start at two mill and work upwards.
It's a gigantic project being run by people who don't know what they are doing. You're all screwed, it's only going to get worse. If you push to meet the deadlines it will get a lot worse. Read "Death March" my Ed Yourdon and spend your time contemplating what a shame it is the IT industry is so slow at the moment.
It's bad enough that the decrepit x86 architecture has lasted this long.
I think it's a bit of a myth that the x86 architecture has actually lasted at all, these days it's really just a way of storing instructions - the instructions themselves get converted on the fly to whatever Intel/AMD really use. Strangely, as memory bandwidth has increasingly become the scarce resource, CISC instruction sets are going to win out over RISC. Not that I'm defending x86's design, mind you.
Fscking Trevor Bayliss. In a previous life an ill fated attempt to make a startup ended up with me being on various mailing lists for inventors. These people idolised Trevor Bayliss, but no mention was ever made of the guy (whose name I have forgotten) who decided Trevor was on to a good thing and went through all the investment, hassle and risk necessary to make Baygen itself profitable.
James Dyson too, idolised. Let alone the fact that designing a better vacuum cleaner nearly cost the guy his sanity.
No, inventing, fsck it. Risk absolutely everything you have - money, house, marriage, friends, sanity - for a one in 100,000 chance of "the big time".
Poor inventors. Very tired, very unloved and more likely than most of us to die pennyless.
There's something I do not understand about patents, like, how on earth can this be patented? Specifically the first patent:
"Dynamic and static protocol objects are mixed together at a server and included in a dynamic reply to a communication request made by a client application."
Ahhhhm, so a client requests something and a reply is made that is partially dynamic and partially static? So, like php then? Like perl cgi pages? Like any reporting engine ever written?
And, check this out, step by step explainations of how the code works. This shit only exists to keep lawyers happy.
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I'm having a hard time believing that Al Qaeda is capable of anything along these lines.
So they have towels on their heads, hide in caves and currently live somewhere between Afghanistan and Pakistan - so this makes them stupid, right?
Whatever. Have you forgotten that these people managed to simultaneously hijack FOUR aircraft, in a country with absurdly tight border restrictions, keep the whole thing quiet from an increasingly Orwellian state, run the whole gig on a budget of eighty dollars and five camels AND get away with it? Hmm? Do I see Osama Bin Laden's head mounted on a plaque in the oval office? Quite.
Thing 2 - Sysadmin's are notoriously lazy, particularly Microsoft ones. Count the number of no brainer hacks we've had over the last, say, two years: Default passwords on SQL servers, unpatched IIS installations by their thousands... Not to mention the notoriously bad security record of the vendor itself.
Not that you need to actually attack anything, don't forget that the multi billion dollar Yahoo! empire was reduced to rubble by some kid in fuckwad Arizona calling himself "Mafiaboy". And he bragged about it on IRC, hardly the gold standard in attempting to get away with things.
Fucks' sake, A "cyber attack" is so thoroughly within the reach of Al Queda that the only reason I can suggest that they've not done it is that they've been busy regrouping after their previous hosts, the Taliban, had their arses royally kicked a few months back.
You think they're going to run forever? Grow up America. You're not as smart as you think you are, and you're very much a target. Have a nice day.
Dave
Haaaaaahahahahhaaaaa!
Fuck, that was great. 1745Hp (with the big turbo), wheel spinning all the way down the first straight of the test course, eventual top whack of 471Km/hr.
Damn that was funny.
Thanks,
Dave
yeah, but its like a million bucks.
Trust me, a million bucks is no problem. Well, a million GT3 bucks aren't anyway.
I got it by beating the rally courses
Cool, I nearly have all the rallies, I may get it that way. BTW, got the F1 yet?
Dave
Ah yeah, right you are ... I should learn to read properly.
But (putting my trolling hat on) doesn't the continued development of a "so bleeding edge it's off the knife" tarkin mean run contrary to Xiph's aim of establishing open source de-facto standards?
Dave
So I take it they gave up on Tarkin then?
FWIW there's a (getting old) codec comparison on Doom9 (http://www.doom9.org/codecs2.htm#test1). VP3 comes out *really* badly.
Dave
Yeah, that would do it. Like the parachute.
Dave
I saw that mentioned on a website, can you actually buy the thing? I never saw it, but then I never really looked either. Perhaps I should.
Point 2: Who fucking rated this as flamebait? Whoever modded that has obviously never played GT3.
Dave
But that a 1000 horsepower Skyline rocks.
Dave
Wasn't code complete already in the list?
Dave
Java has been relegated to web services, where it's just barely holding its own against ASP and PHP.
They are in very different territories though. PHP is still (mostly) a hack-a-thon language with little or no attention paid to long term maintainability, error handling or scaleability. Not that scaleability is a problem in a world with hardware load balancers, but I digress.
Other than that I thoroughly agree with you. Client side Java sucked anyway.
Dave
Now that FreeBSD has Java
Ummm, it doesn't. Tried sticking Java on a FreeBSD box recently?
Dave
So, do some Java bunnies want to tell me what happened with "write once, run anywhere"?
Hmmmm?
So why should I believe the next piece of pointless hype?
Dave
I'm a recently recanted Java hater. Hell, I got paid good money for coding in Java and was a Java hater for all of that, so this is no minor thing. Point is that these days Java advocacy generally doesn't wind me up, but that .... some of that .... was total shit. For instance:
Correctly written programs in java are almost impossible to distinguish from their counterparts.
They run at half the speed of a C++ app on a good day. Add to this the fact that the JIT/VM code sits in the processors L1/L2 cache, reducing the applications cache hits significantly. Add to this the far, far larger memory footprint whacking memory bandwidth... nasty stuff.
It is less slower than C than C is slower than assembler.
There's actually an ongoing rumour that C, with the right compiler, is now faster than assembler. This is to do with the compiler having a much better idea how the processor's pipeline is built than a person, being able parallelise data automagically, and (in some cases) drop in MMX/SIMD instructions where appropriate.
That being said Java is a lot faster than it was.
Java is prospering in cellphones, pda's
Java is prospering in cellphone and pda vapourware. When Nokia suss that a java application drains the battery at least twice as fast as it's C counterpart it'll be adios to our friends with p-code, I'm afraid. You want to see where cellphones are going? Talk to the guys at Symbian.
That's little to pay for not having to port apps
Did you learn nothing from the WAP debacle? Applications have to be written completely differently when you contol a 2" screen with your thumbs.
OK, enough. I like Java because it pisses Microsoft off and has immeasurably better standards support. But it needs to know it's place - a glorified scripting language.
Dave
"Rapid Development", should have been called "preventing project management fsck ups for dummies".
Dave
It strikes me that there might be some quite serious money in these "agreements with Microsoft". In a post dotcom world, it's a pretty plausible business plan:
* Find holes in MS software.
* Publicise them frantically.
* Come to "an agreement".
* Kachingggggg!
Dave
Java! you cant get more universal then that?
C. Or C++. Blows Java out of the water in terms of both being portable (universal), and performance.
Java's good if you're in school though.
Dave
Besides, I think OpenGL is extremely hard to implement efficiently in software.
A nice man call John Carmack would probably disagree with you there.
Dave
How's it going to be THX certified with a loud "blub blub blub blub blub" going constantly?
:)
Dave
$250k? Working? For 1500kloc? So you're assuming 6 working lines of code/dollar... at the $150/man hour they're paying the outsourcing company that works out as 900loc/man hour. Working. Debugged, fixed, documented, with regression tests, everything. No fucking way. Start at two mill and work upwards.
Dave
It's a gigantic project being run by people who don't know what they are doing. You're all screwed, it's only going to get worse. If you push to meet the deadlines it will get a lot worse. Read "Death March" my Ed Yourdon and spend your time contemplating what a shame it is the IT industry is so slow at the moment.
Dave
It's because they're bloody Telstra budgies.
Dave
It's bad enough that the decrepit x86 architecture has lasted this long.
I think it's a bit of a myth that the x86 architecture has actually lasted at all, these days it's really just a way of storing instructions - the instructions themselves get converted on the fly to whatever Intel/AMD really use. Strangely, as memory bandwidth has increasingly become the scarce resource, CISC instruction sets are going to win out over RISC. Not that I'm defending x86's design, mind you.
Dave
Fscking Trevor Bayliss. In a previous life an ill fated attempt to make a startup ended up with me being on various mailing lists for inventors. These people idolised Trevor Bayliss, but no mention was ever made of the guy (whose name I have forgotten) who decided Trevor was on to a good thing and went through all the investment, hassle and risk necessary to make Baygen itself profitable.
James Dyson too, idolised. Let alone the fact that designing a better vacuum cleaner nearly cost the guy his sanity.
No, inventing, fsck it. Risk absolutely everything you have - money, house, marriage, friends, sanity - for a one in 100,000 chance of "the big time".
Poor inventors. Very tired, very unloved and more likely than most of us to die pennyless.
Dave
There's something I do not understand about patents, like, how on earth can this be patented? Specifically the first patent:
"Dynamic and static protocol objects are mixed together at a server and included in a dynamic reply to a communication request made by a client application."
Ahhhhm, so a client requests something and a reply is made that is partially dynamic and partially static? So, like php then? Like perl cgi pages? Like any reporting engine ever written?
And, check this out, step by step explainations of how the code works. This shit only exists to keep lawyers happy.
Don't get it.
Dave
The "PC only" quote is a little out of context. He was replying to a "is this going to be on the Xbox" question. By not laughing.
Dave