Trying to plant some FUD for future reference are you?
Are you then going to post the link to it to a Finance forum to convince investers this is true?
Nice job. It would be more convincing if you weren't anonymous. What have you got to lose anyway? You're an important former kernel contributor!
Re:New light to shed on Bill Gates, Microsoft and
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Today, we just got a memo from the CEO of our firm. Starting next Monday, all open source software that we use and any development taking place using open source tools (this includes GNU tools) must be removed and all OSS related projects will cease. The CEO got a "tip"...
Nice troll, or plant. I really like the parts where you say they are wrong, but what can you do, it's a sound business decison.
Are you the same guy that posted the Our company is switching again post?
Re:Our company is switching again.
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Yeah, I see a few of these posts from ACs.
I'll bet these posts are planted by people hoping to make a buck out of SCOX stock or something.
There's a no way a serious company would spend an incredible amount of time and money migrating away from Linux based on SCO's threats.
it implements copyright rules! i'm quite sure sony wouldn't put this feature in if the law didn't exist. so we can't neccessarily blame manufacturers...
Yeah, like the Jukebox software they provide with their MP3 players that only let you "check out" tracks on 2 different devices at one time. You can't delete such a track from the standalone player (away from your computer); you must check it back into the computer. Nor can you download such a track from your MP3 player to a friend's Jukebox to use on his Sony MP3 player.
Face it. Sony are now a content company as much as they are an electronics company.
Finally, someone who read the license before flaming Debian!
If I write a manual, a company can update it and add their invariant section. If I later decide to add the new material from the company to my copy of the manual, I have to add their invariant section, despite being the author of most of the content.
I agree with your assessment. I call it a poison pill.
There are other problems. You can't excerpt text into a derived work without including the text of the license; Not just have the license as a separate file, but the actual license text must be included, and it's pretty long. Imagine trying to make a reference card ou of that.
Another thing that annoys me is when the main documentation for a GPL'ed work is licensed under the GFDL. Anyone who forks the project cannot cut and paste text between his version of the code and manual. The licenses are incompatible. Now consider that all the FSF manuals are under this license! Yuck.
FLTK is the C++ successor to the XForms library (which is written in plain C), so I won't cover the latter here. XForms is not Free Software and is free of charge only for non-commercial use.
XForms has been free software, under the LGPL, for a while now.
Most probably you are using Debian or Gentoo or Slackware because it's kwel and 1337. Or maybe you are using a 5.2 Red Hat. Too bad. Because Linux is Linux is Linux. So, Linux + Desktop = Mandrake.
I booted off the knoppix CD (Debian-based) and it detected all my stuff, including setting up 3D support on my ATI Radeon 9000 Pro video card automatically. The CDRW works, xsane picked up my scanner, my USB memory stick works. I can't complain.
That's why it's called the FREE software foundation and not the Somewhat-Free, Mostly-Free, Free-This-One-Time, Momentarily-Free, or Free-Enough-So-Take-It-Or-Leave-It Foundation.
I'd actually say that's why it's called the free SOFTWARE foundation, because they don't share the same feelings for documentation. The GFDL (i.e. documentation license) is GPL-incompatible and most likely non-free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines.
I'd call it the GSFDL for Gnu Somewhat Free Documentation License.
Since the parent post was moderated -1 (off-topic, which it is), my changed subject line made no sense without seeing the parent post as context, so I posted this too to help.
It works... so give it back to her!!!
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We told her that the cost of the screen alone would be around $1000 if not more, so she decided to leave the machine with us to discard of. Before we tossed it in the trash, I decided to try and power it up just for kicks, and it worked!
So give it back to her! Otherwise it's as bad as stealing.
> ECS K7S5A Motherboard > Athlon XP 1800+ > PC133 instead of the DDR RAM
I have that motherboard and an Athlon XP 2100+ and I'm trying to use my older PC133 ram, but the system freezes at 133 FSB. I have to use 100 FSB so my 2100+ looks to be a 1500+.
Hunting the net, it seems many people have this problem and resolve it by upgrading to DDR ram.:-(
Trying to plant some FUD for future reference are you?
Are you then going to post the link to it to a Finance forum to convince investers this is true?
Nice job. It would be more convincing if you weren't anonymous. What have you got to lose anyway?
You're an important former kernel contributor!
Today, we just got a memo from the CEO of our firm. Starting next Monday, all open source software that we use and any development taking place using open source tools (this includes GNU tools) must be removed and all OSS related projects will cease. The CEO got a "tip"...
Nice troll, or plant. I really like the parts where you say they are wrong, but what can you do, it's a sound business decison.
Are you the same guy that posted the Our company is switching again post?
Yeah, I see a few of these posts from ACs.
I'll bet these posts are planted by people hoping to make a buck out of SCOX stock or something.
There's a no way a serious company would spend an incredible amount of time and money migrating away from Linux based on SCO's threats.
And guess what? I do respect copyright; I won't even burn a CD for close friends, or rip their CDs
Ripping your friend's CDs is legal in Canada.
Burning a CD for them is not, but letting them borrow it for them to burn it is.
So it not illegal nor immoral everywhere to do what you mention.
they've been a content company since Sony Music started...
Exactly.
it implements copyright rules! i'm quite sure sony wouldn't put this feature in if the law didn't exist. so we can't neccessarily blame manufacturers...
Yeah, like the Jukebox software they provide with their MP3 players that only let you "check out" tracks on 2 different devices at one time. You can't delete such a track from the standalone player (away from your computer); you must check it back into the computer.
Nor can you download such a track from your MP3 player to a friend's Jukebox to use on his Sony MP3 player.
Face it. Sony are now a content company as much as they are an electronics company.
Finally, someone who read the license before flaming Debian!
If I write a manual, a company can update it and add their invariant section. If I later decide to add the new material from the company to my copy of the manual, I have to add their invariant section, despite being the author of most of the content.
I agree with your assessment. I call it a poison pill.
There are other problems. You can't excerpt text into a derived work without including the text of the license; Not just have the license as a separate file, but the actual license text must be included, and it's pretty long. Imagine trying to make a reference card ou of that.
Another thing that annoys me is when the main documentation for a GPL'ed work is licensed under the GFDL. Anyone who forks the project cannot cut and paste text between his version of the code and manual. The licenses are incompatible. Now consider that all the FSF manuals are under this license! Yuck.
FLTK is the C++ successor to the XForms library (which is written in plain C), so I won't cover the latter here. XForms is not Free Software and is free of charge only for non-commercial use.
XForms has been free software, under the LGPL, for a while now.
See the Debian package in the main archive.
Most probably you are using Debian or Gentoo or Slackware because it's kwel and 1337. Or maybe you are using a 5.2 Red Hat. Too bad. Because Linux is Linux is Linux. So, Linux + Desktop = Mandrake.
I booted off the knoppix CD (Debian-based) and it detected all my stuff, including setting up 3D support on my ATI Radeon 9000 Pro video card automatically. The CDRW works, xsane picked up my scanner, my USB memory stick works. I can't complain.
I submitted the story to /. 30 minutes ago and it was rejected. Go figure.
In the end there is so much GPLed software that most Free Software licenses trend towards becoming GPL compatible.
Except for new licenses created by the FSF like the GFDL (Gnu Free Documention License) which is only somehwta free and incompatible with the GPL.
Sort of ironic.
That's why it's called the FREE software foundation and not the Somewhat-Free, Mostly-Free, Free-This-One-Time, Momentarily-Free, or Free-Enough-So-Take-It-Or-Leave-It Foundation.
I'd actually say that's why it's called the free SOFTWARE foundation, because they don't share the same feelings for documentation. The GFDL (i.e. documentation license) is GPL-incompatible and most likely non-free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines.
I'd call it the GSFDL for Gnu Somewhat Free Documentation License.
That's consistent with their FUD campaign. But I wonder how selling an allegedly tainted version of Linux fits into this.
Peter
So there aren't enough people showing you where you're wrong for you to believe them?
Notice how the RIAA doesn't go after people who download sogns via P2P? They go after the people who share the songs
Notice how the BSA goes after people who use software?
But you actually click through an EULA before you use the software that the BSA goes after people for.
There's no EULA when you buy a CD of music.
There's no EULA when you download GPL'ed programs either.
Although a migration to XP is planned for sometime this year, Windows 95 is used here at the Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, Govt. of Canada.
(I use GNU/Linux and have Win4Lin installed for the occasional corporate Word file.)
I meant _doesn't_ look like the AIX arm of SUN cares if it's hurting the Linux arm. If IBM+Linux is risky, why would SUN+Linux not be?
It looks like the AIX arm of SUN cares if it's hurting the Linux arm. If IBM+Linux is risky, why would SUN+Linux not be?
Means that SUN is helping to spread FUD about using Linux.
Since the parent post was moderated -1 (off-topic, which it is), my changed subject line made no sense without seeing the parent post as context, so I posted this too to help.
I thought this was a joke. But look for yourself:
First, I went to the URL mentionned above and thought it could be unrelated. But click on the PDF News item on the right side!
It's true!
I've said this before...
W3C cames up with XForms - The Next Generation of Web Forms in 2002, but XForms - a GUI toolkit for X has existed for a long time (initially here).
When the report states that Linux isn't free because support isn't free, it forgets that it's the licensing that's free.
How much is the elimination of the threat of a license audit worth to your company?
W3C cames up with XForms - The Next Generation of Web Forms in 2002, but
XForms - a GUI toolkit for X has existed for a long time (initially here).
We told her that the cost of the screen alone would be around $1000 if not more, so she decided to leave the machine with us to discard of. Before we tossed it in the trash, I decided to try and power it up just for kicks, and it worked!
So give it back to her! Otherwise it's as bad as stealing.
> ECS K7S5A Motherboard
:-(
> Athlon XP 1800+
> PC133 instead of the DDR RAM
I have that motherboard and an Athlon XP 2100+ and I'm trying to use my older PC133 ram, but the system freezes at 133 FSB. I have to use 100 FSB so my 2100+ looks to be a 1500+.
Hunting the net, it seems many people have this problem and resolve it by upgrading to DDR ram.
Peter