Torque is a non issue with electric motors. If you have doubts look at all the electric buses in San Francisco. Or better yet realize that all freight trains are electric.
I tend to get bored if I stay in the same job too long. Also cash, promotions, and respect are easier to come by when you switch companies. Sad, but true. My progression has been tech support, NOC, Network Engineer, Windows Admin, Network Eng/Sys Admin, Sys Admin/DBA/Network/Developer/IT guy, Application Operations, and finally head Application Engineer which is mostly capacity planning, architecture review, project management, and trying to catch issues before they take the service down. Most of what you learn at one job can be applied at another job. At the very least you'll be that Sys Admin that actually understands routing or the DBA that doesn't blame the network first.
None of the moving around has retarded my career and I'm somewhat sought after these days because I'm a generalist with a 14 years of experience as well as workign at five startups. Moving around like that might not work for everyone, but I recommend it if you're bored to tears with your current bailiwick and actually like the IT field overall.
This is completely false. Idiot people who don't want to have to wear a helmet continue to bring that nonsense up. Think about it. How can a helmet which spreads an impact out over a large space *and* absorbs impact via padding be worse than no helmet at all.
Wait, you mean David Weber's rehash of Horatio Hornblower?:-P
Not that I didn't enjoy the first couple of books, but there isn't anything new in them.
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Meh, you get quantum physics shoehorned into some of the worst sci-fi ever written. Truly awful characters and just plain bad plots. I read a lot of tripe, but those two guys just suck.
I hired an intern two years ago at a startup. He had passable skills when he started and after a few months he was a decent jr admin. I wrote him a recommendation letter and he got a job doing admin work when he went back to Berkley. From the stories he told me Berkley might be the last place you'd want to pull packages from. Our crazy startup was far more organized, documented, and well run then the nonsense that passes for administration at Berkley.
I can't say how true his stories were, but just because your packages are coming from a large institution it doesn't mean that anyone with half a brain is actually running things.
Gentoo has always about giving you more control and making hard things easy. If it weren't, we'd be using the giant pain in the ass called Linux From Scratch.
No, it's true. qmail was fantastic in '97 and around '99 or '00 was probably the peak in major installs. Around '02 most of your major MTAs has surpassed qmail in functionality, performance, and ease of use. Yes even Sendmail. I switched to Postfix and find it superior in every way to software that has not changed since May '98.
I left qmail for the greener grass that is Postfix years ago and wondered why I didn't do it sooner. Everything your like, need, or want Postfix does easier and faster than qmail even after you've tracked down the fifteen odd patches you'd need to run qmail properly.
I also highly recommend PostfixAdmin for virtual mail hosting with Postfix, Mysql/Posgres, and your favorite imap server.
Gentoo is addictive. Once you have a system that's rational with only the tools you want with only the features in those tools that you want it's really hard to use anything else. That and being able to pick Apache2 or 2.2, Mysql 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, or 5.1, etc and have a coherent system no matter which combination you pick is a Godsend.
The Gentoo forums and mailing lists are quite helpful if you haven't used them yet.
I've got to agree. Started around the same time and made it similarly as far due to being experienced enough at the right times rather than having degrees or certs. That's getting much harder to do as the bar is set so much higher these days. Hadn't done Mysql replication in '99? No big deal. Haven't done it today and you're shown the door.
I'd recommend school, something I've been slowing attempting to finish, and an internship. Also schools tend to have big systems they let students admin... which is sometimes not such a good thing. A couple of my interns have been appalled by their school networks after doing a summer of working on a highly organized and correct system.
Also network engineering is pretty boring after a few years. I went from tech support to NOC support to network engineer to system admin to system architect where I pretty much do everything and add DBA to that as well. Starting to program a bit as well so unit tests actually get written. The nice thing about IT is that all my skills from each job have been useful even today though my job today is supposed to be a jack of all trades sort. With that in mind it's silly to aim for one aspect of IT when it may not be around or bore you tears in a few years. Get some general ed in you and keep your skills up once you have them.
This is the operators failure to understand Gentoo. It's true Gentoo does assume that you always want to upgrade. However if it does provide an easy system to stop upgrades, only upgrade in the current code train, and half a dozen other options. Chances are the original poster did a Mysql 4.0 to Mysql 4.1 or Mysql 4.1 to Mysql 5.0 upgrade both of which are major version jumps though the upgrade to 5.0 is a bit more intrusive. In Gentoo you can stop this upgrade by adding a single line to your/etc/portage/package.mask
>=dev-db/mysql-5
Now you'll get all the updates to 4.1, but never update to 5.0. You can even lock it down to a particular version, but allow minor bug fix revisions if they are released.
The great thing about Gentoo is that I can use Mysql 4.0, 4.1, or 5.0 on the whole system if I need it without having to do the Redhat dance of "lib-sasl-mysql needs Mysql-4.1" when attempting to install Mysql 5.0 or use Mysql 5.0 client lib functionality.
Your post is mind numbingly retarded, but I'll respond anyway.
1. Major versions of Mysql are not minor upgrades. If you don't know this you shouldn't be running a production system that involves Mysql... or much else in my opinion.
2. RTFM is exactly what you're paid to do as an admin and if you're not doing it before every upgrade and better yet testing the upgrades on a separate server before they break thousands of users you have only your self to blame.
The problem in this case in not the distro it's the yutz behind the keyboard.
Please name this uber distro that automatically upgrades your database between major versions without borking your data. Something that Postgres, Mysql, and ever db vendor on the planet suggests does not ever work and is pretty much guaranteed to lose data.
I'd question the idea of frame relay in this day and age. Local connections with MPLS tagging should be cheaper and easier to manage. Friend of mine rolled out 140 odd site globally with MPLS. Cut price in half if I recall correctly.
Spoken like someone who has never actually used Openview. It's expensive, is a framework requiring you to buy or write anything really useful, runs like crap, takes a ridiculous amount of hardware to run... I could go on and on.
Assuming you're not an idiot, some combination of Nagios, Cacti, net-snmp, logwatch, syslog-ng, your favorite scripting language is cheaper to isntall, run, and maintain. Yeah you have to put a guy on it at least part time, but at least you don't have to put a full time guy on it like OV.
Slashdot was slow when it was launched back in the day. I remember when the first story or two got over 100 comments and all hell broke loose on the site.
Slashdot Mirror
As a former network engineer I salute you. The rest of you bastards, pay attention.
Torque is a non issue with electric motors. If you have doubts look at all the electric buses in San Francisco. Or better yet realize that all freight trains are electric.
I tend to get bored if I stay in the same job too long. Also cash, promotions, and respect are easier to come by when you switch companies. Sad, but true. My progression has been tech support, NOC, Network Engineer, Windows Admin, Network Eng/Sys Admin, Sys Admin/DBA/Network/Developer/IT guy, Application Operations, and finally head Application Engineer which is mostly capacity planning, architecture review, project management, and trying to catch issues before they take the service down. Most of what you learn at one job can be applied at another job. At the very least you'll be that Sys Admin that actually understands routing or the DBA that doesn't blame the network first.
None of the moving around has retarded my career and I'm somewhat sought after these days because I'm a generalist with a 14 years of experience as well as workign at five startups. Moving around like that might not work for everyone, but I recommend it if you're bored to tears with your current bailiwick and actually like the IT field overall.
kashani
This is completely false. Idiot people who don't want to have to wear a helmet continue to bring that nonsense up. Think about it. How can a helmet which spreads an impact out over a large space *and* absorbs impact via padding be worse than no helmet at all.
Wait, you mean David Weber's rehash of Horatio Hornblower? :-P
Not that I didn't enjoy the first couple of books, but there isn't anything new in them.
Meh, you get quantum physics shoehorned into some of the worst sci-fi ever written. Truly awful characters and just plain bad plots. I read a lot of tripe, but those two guys just suck.
kashani
But one of my favorite albums is. :)
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1049950/a/Made+From+Technetium.htm
I hired an intern two years ago at a startup. He had passable skills when he started and after a few months he was a decent jr admin. I wrote him a recommendation letter and he got a job doing admin work when he went back to Berkley. From the stories he told me Berkley might be the last place you'd want to pull packages from. Our crazy startup was far more organized, documented, and well run then the nonsense that passes for administration at Berkley.
I can't say how true his stories were, but just because your packages are coming from a large institution it doesn't mean that anyone with half a brain is actually running things.
kashani
Gentoo has always about giving you more control and making hard things easy. If it weren't, we'd be using the giant pain in the ass called Linux From Scratch.
kashani
tens of thousands of users is a major site now? Hell some blogs have that many. Talk to me when you have millions of users. Everyday.
kashani
No, it's true. qmail was fantastic in '97 and around '99 or '00 was probably the peak in major installs. Around '02 most of your major MTAs has surpassed qmail in functionality, performance, and ease of use. Yes even Sendmail. I switched to Postfix and find it superior in every way to software that has not changed since May '98.
kashani
I left qmail for the greener grass that is Postfix years ago and wondered why I didn't do it sooner. Everything your like, need, or want Postfix does easier and faster than qmail even after you've tracked down the fifteen odd patches you'd need to run qmail properly.
I also highly recommend PostfixAdmin for virtual mail hosting with Postfix, Mysql/Posgres, and your favorite imap server.
kashani
Elton John and show tunes... are you sure that's a "girl" friend you've got there?
kashani
Gentoo is addictive. Once you have a system that's rational with only the tools you want with only the features in those tools that you want it's really hard to use anything else. That and being able to pick Apache2 or 2.2, Mysql 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, or 5.1, etc and have a coherent system no matter which combination you pick is a Godsend.
The Gentoo forums and mailing lists are quite helpful if you haven't used them yet.
kashani, five year Gentoo user
I've got to agree. Started around the same time and made it similarly as far due to being experienced enough at the right times rather than having degrees or certs. That's getting much harder to do as the bar is set so much higher these days. Hadn't done Mysql replication in '99? No big deal. Haven't done it today and you're shown the door.
I'd recommend school, something I've been slowing attempting to finish, and an internship. Also schools tend to have big systems they let students admin... which is sometimes not such a good thing. A couple of my interns have been appalled by their school networks after doing a summer of working on a highly organized and correct system.
Also network engineering is pretty boring after a few years. I went from tech support to NOC support to network engineer to system admin to system architect where I pretty much do everything and add DBA to that as well. Starting to program a bit as well so unit tests actually get written. The nice thing about IT is that all my skills from each job have been useful even today though my job today is supposed to be a jack of all trades sort. With that in mind it's silly to aim for one aspect of IT when it may not be around or bore you tears in a few years. Get some general ed in you and keep your skills up once you have them.
kashani
Sorry id 702 didn't care enough to respond so he sent me. :-)
kashani
This is the operators failure to understand Gentoo. It's true Gentoo does assume that you always want to upgrade. However if it does provide an easy system to stop upgrades, only upgrade in the current code train, and half a dozen other options. Chances are the original poster did a Mysql 4.0 to Mysql 4.1 or Mysql 4.1 to Mysql 5.0 upgrade both of which are major version jumps though the upgrade to 5.0 is a bit more intrusive. In Gentoo you can stop this upgrade by adding a single line to your /etc/portage/package.mask
>=dev-db/mysql-5
Now you'll get all the updates to 4.1, but never update to 5.0. You can even lock it down to a particular version, but allow minor bug fix revisions if they are released.
The great thing about Gentoo is that I can use Mysql 4.0, 4.1, or 5.0 on the whole system if I need it without having to do the Redhat dance of "lib-sasl-mysql needs Mysql-4.1" when attempting to install Mysql 5.0 or use Mysql 5.0 client lib functionality.
kashani
Your post is mind numbingly retarded, but I'll respond anyway.
1. Major versions of Mysql are not minor upgrades. If you don't know this you shouldn't be running a production system that involves Mysql... or much else in my opinion.
2. RTFM is exactly what you're paid to do as an admin and if you're not doing it before every upgrade and better yet testing the upgrades on a separate server before they break thousands of users you have only your self to blame.
The problem in this case in not the distro it's the yutz behind the keyboard.
kashani
Please name this uber distro that automatically upgrades your database between major versions without borking your data. Something that Postgres, Mysql, and ever db vendor on the planet suggests does not ever work and is pretty much guaranteed to lose data.
kashani
Totally agree and wrote some of my own experiences up on the Gentoo forum.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-504541.html
kashani
Totally agree. Additionally APC is completely broken when trying to use PHP 5.1 in any sort of object oriented way.
kashani
I'd question the idea of frame relay in this day and age. Local connections with MPLS tagging should be cheaper and easier to manage. Friend of mine rolled out 140 odd site globally with MPLS. Cut price in half if I recall correctly.
kashani
Spoken like someone who has never actually used Openview. It's expensive, is a framework requiring you to buy or write anything really useful, runs like crap, takes a ridiculous amount of hardware to run... I could go on and on.
Assuming you're not an idiot, some combination of Nagios, Cacti, net-snmp, logwatch, syslog-ng, your favorite scripting language is cheaper to isntall, run, and maintain. Yeah you have to put a guy on it at least part time, but at least you don't have to put a full time guy on it like OV.
kashani
I think Debian can survive the loss of all twelve of those users.
kashani
Slashdot was slow when it was launched back in the day. I remember when the first story or two got over 100 comments and all hell broke loose on the site.
kashani