So that in ideal conditions - ie you have electricity - you can work more efficiently. RFIDs facilitate inventory control better than bar-codes because (in theory anyway) you can wheel a cart full of blood-bags with RFIDs and the scanner will detect them all at once.
Ok, why not have both RFIDs and bar-codes. A system can be designed for both - to be efficient in ideal conditions, and yet to always work in non-ideal conditions. In fact a large part of improved CPU designs exploit such an idea. This is exactly what Grove is saying to the medical industry.
I mean, right now, the PS3 is being outsold in the US by the GBA. THE GBA! The PS3 is also being outsold in the US by toothbrushes. So what? The PS3 and GBA are not competing products.
Doesn't quite work that way. I can buy a non-descript coffee here in San Francisco for about $1.50, but when I'd gone to London it pretty much cost me GBP 1.50.
Nice strawman there, Batman! If you read the link you posted, Kutaragi actually said "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else." which is a whole lot different than "get another job".
Please take the money MS is giving you and take your shill elsewhere.
Dude really. Why are you so bitter? BluRay is no more proprietary than HD-DVD, it is fully backed by a consortium of companies that has *MORE* members than the competing HD-DVD group. BluRay has initial manufacturing kinks, but why is HD-DVD "in your eyes" superior? It holds less data, and is less robust to scratching than BluRay - seems those would be the only two measures of quality of a *data storage medium*.
Please stop spewing random hatred - it is in your interest as a consumer to have multiple companies competing for your money, which is what is happening. Sony's done stupid/evil things, but the PS3 is not one of them
Well... yes. You'd probably have as much trouble porting a game that was built ground-up for the PS3, onto the Xbox360. Porting is hard. New SDK versions are also common in the lead-up to launch, I'm sure if you ask now, the SDK will be stable.
Great post, thanks. I never used procedural texture tools, but it seems creating a large library of textures using the 'explore' approach, and selling the library as middleware, could be perfect for many game studios.
You said: I have no problem with this, the problem I have is that Kutaragi's attitude is one of "The price is not our problem, the price is your problem, do something about it."
Kutaragi never said those words, you did. And then:
"If you cannot do the former because it would hurt your bottom line, and you cannot do the latter because your have designed a product with a very high materials cost, then it's your problem, not that of your potential customers."
Sorry to be replying again to this post - it's interesting that all the Sony bad news (there's admittedly a lot of it) is posted by Zonk. The one good piece of news - PS3 running Folding@Home, was posted by timothy, and Zonk conveniently ignored it. What gives?
I'm tired of people complaining about the PS3 price. Yes, its expensive, but if you can (and want to) afford it, it's actually good value for the money. The $499 PS3 is pretty comparable with the premium XBox 360 anyway, and it has the additional Blu-ray drive. I bet Microsoft won't be selling the HDDVD add-on for less than $100, so in fact the price point of PS3 is exactly equal to (XBox 360 + HDDVD drive).
If you don't want the next-gen disc drive, fine, don't buy the PS3. But for people who do want a hi-def disc, the PS3 has a great price.
Well I guess the keyhole-logo represents the safe-like security and reliability you get from open source software. After all, the State Bank of India uses a similar logo.
> Until a better file/data system is divised, the UI will not improve.
Yeah i've had this on my mind for some time since i took an introductory HCI course. the original idea was that "people work on projects on their PCs. the filesystem can provide this functionality very loosely by a directory structure. there's a lot of clutter, initialization effort for a project (yea - start Oracle server, start emacs, start netscape with online docs) is high." So:
We conceptualized a multiple view system of the physical file system hierarchy present on a personal computer. Views are created by the user with intuitive meaning (e.g. I have views for my senior project, my HCI course, and my vacation plans). Views can contain emails, downloads, book-marks, programs and packages and other `normal' files and directories. Hence when I am working on my senior project I get to see only selected files, work with selected programs - reducing a lot of clutter and allowing me to work faster. Further, a single file/directory may be present in different views in different versions (the same image file in low res for my web-page, and high res for publishing). We just focused on the files business - there's a lot of other things (initializing a view by invoking diff programs on startup of that view, etc) we havent done.
To implement this system, I have in mind (very vaguely) an object oriented file system (OOFS!). Each system call to a file (create, open, read, write, close, and methods defined via class extension) will invoke a process, and the file itself will decide what to do with the system call depending on what class that file is an instance of. The class hierarchy goes like: File->Media->Picture, and each class(extension) will provide additional methods (readLowRes, readHigResColor) and members (eg. program to invoke to edit the picture). (An OOFS communicates with above mentioned 'View' system via roles - the file methods behave differently depending on which View called them.) Other aplication methods by possible class extensions of an oofs: 1. very convenient to provide levels of security. 2. inbuilt RCS/CVS?
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So that in ideal conditions - ie you have electricity - you can work more efficiently. RFIDs facilitate inventory control better than bar-codes because (in theory anyway) you can wheel a cart full of blood-bags with RFIDs and the scanner will detect them all at once.
Ok, why not have both RFIDs and bar-codes. A system can be designed for both - to be efficient in ideal conditions, and yet to always work in non-ideal conditions. In fact a large part of improved CPU designs exploit such an idea. This is exactly what Grove is saying to the medical industry.
The PS3 and GBA are not competing products.
Doesn't quite work that way. I can buy a non-descript coffee here in San Francisco for about $1.50, but when I'd gone to London it pretty much cost me GBP 1.50.
I wish I missed Zonk... sigh.
Nice strawman there, Batman! If you read the link you posted, Kutaragi actually said "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else." which is a whole lot different than "get another job".
Please take the money MS is giving you and take your shill elsewhere.
Dude really. Why are you so bitter?
BluRay is no more proprietary than HD-DVD, it is fully backed by a consortium of companies that has *MORE* members than the competing HD-DVD group. BluRay has initial manufacturing kinks, but why is HD-DVD "in your eyes" superior? It holds less data, and is less robust to scratching than BluRay - seems those would be the only two measures of quality of a *data storage medium*.
Please stop spewing random hatred - it is in your interest as a consumer to have multiple companies competing for your money, which is what is happening. Sony's done stupid/evil things, but the PS3 is not one of them
For the PSP, if you ran a new game, the game's UMD would contain the firmware patch to be installed. I expect this will continue for the PS3 too.
Well... yes.
You'd probably have as much trouble porting a game that was built ground-up for the PS3, onto the Xbox360. Porting is hard. New SDK versions are also common in the lead-up to launch, I'm sure if you ask now, the SDK will be stable.
Great post, thanks.
I never used procedural texture tools, but it seems creating a large library of textures using the 'explore' approach, and selling the library as middleware, could be perfect for many game studios.
Parent modded redundant? Why?
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BTW I'm tired of Zonk's selective reporting. How about reporting that people who actually have seen/used the PS3 love it? Here: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8L7
Amen. Mod parents up please!
You said:
I have no problem with this, the problem I have is that Kutaragi's attitude is one of "The price is not our problem, the price is your problem, do something about it."
Kutaragi never said those words, you did. And then:
"If you cannot do the former because it would hurt your bottom line, and you cannot do the latter because your have designed a product with a very high materials cost, then it's your problem, not that of your potential customers."
Ta-da. Classic strawman argument.
Sorry to be replying again to this post - it's interesting that all the Sony bad news (there's admittedly a lot of it) is posted by Zonk. The one good piece of news - PS3 running Folding@Home, was posted by timothy, and Zonk conveniently ignored it. What gives?
I'm tired of people complaining about the PS3 price. Yes, its expensive, but if you can (and want to) afford it, it's actually good value for the money. The $499 PS3 is pretty comparable with the premium XBox 360 anyway, and it has the additional Blu-ray drive. I bet Microsoft won't be selling the HDDVD add-on for less than $100, so in fact the price point of PS3 is exactly equal to (XBox 360 + HDDVD drive).
If you don't want the next-gen disc drive, fine, don't buy the PS3. But for people who do want a hi-def disc, the PS3 has a great price.
Well I guess the keyhole-logo represents the safe-like security and reliability you get from open source software. After all, the State Bank of India uses a similar logo.
> Until a better file/data system is divised, the UI will not improve.
Yeah i've had this on my mind for some time since i took an introductory HCI course. the original idea was that "people work on projects on their PCs. the filesystem can provide this functionality very loosely by a directory structure. there's a lot of clutter, initialization effort for a project (yea - start Oracle server, start emacs, start netscape with online docs) is high." So:
We conceptualized a multiple view system of the physical file system hierarchy present on a personal computer. Views are created by the user with intuitive meaning (e.g. I have views for my senior project, my HCI course, and my vacation plans). Views can contain emails, downloads, book-marks, programs and packages and other `normal' files and directories. Hence when I am working on my senior project I get to see only selected files, work with selected programs - reducing a lot of clutter and allowing me to work faster. Further, a single file/directory may be present in different views in different versions (the same image file in low res for my web-page, and high res for publishing). We just focused on the files business - there's a lot of other things (initializing a view by invoking diff programs on startup of that view, etc) we havent done.
To implement this system, I have in mind (very vaguely) an object oriented file system (OOFS!). Each system call to a file (create, open, read, write, close, and methods defined via class extension) will invoke a process, and the file itself will decide what to do with the system call depending on what class that file is an instance of. The class hierarchy goes like:
File->Media->Picture, and each class(extension) will provide additional methods (readLowRes, readHigResColor) and members (eg. program to invoke to edit the picture). (An OOFS communicates with above mentioned 'View' system via roles - the file methods behave differently depending on which View called them.) Other aplication methods by possible class extensions of an oofs:
1. very convenient to provide levels of security.
2. inbuilt RCS/CVS?
hope i made sense.
hrishi