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Fewer PS3 Units Tomorrow Than Hoped For?
Gamasutra is reporting on the possibility that there may only be 150,000 - 200,000 PS3s available tomorrow. Kotaku has heard that this may stem from removal of the 20 GB units from the shipment to the U.S., though this is just speculation at the moment. Several bloggers have noted that their local videogames store has notified them of lowered availability, so it doesn't seem that this is outside the realm of possibility. From the article: "'Due to the limited initial installed base of the platforms, we believe the financial impact over the holiday period will be more significant for hardware manufacturers and video game retailers (such as GameStop) than for software publishers.' In addition to predicting a strong push for Xbox 360 products due to a shortage in PS3 supply, Sebastian also says the newly launched consoles may not have as significant an impact on holiday sales." A reader also wrote in to mention the cost that Sony is sucking with each of these units. Apparently, the company is eating about $300 for every PS3 sold.
Eating $300? On one hand I don't want to buy any more Sony stuff. On the other hand, if we all bought them and used them for non-gaming applications (or at least didn't buy any sony-licensed games) we could put some serious smack down on Sony. On the gripping hand, it would still increase their installed base, and that of Blu-Ray, which I also want to fail because Sony is associated with it.
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1. Lose Money on Each System 2. Sell less systems, create marketing hype 3. Systems become cheaper to make 4. Finally meet demand 5. Profit!!
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more like im doing 15 things at one here at work,, anyway, i think the ps3 will do OK if they can get the supply up to the demand, tho them blu-ray drives and the cell processors i hear are hard to make and the process is not yet streamlined to a good point.
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You forgot the biggest problem, if the parts are hard to break and new, how do we know they will still work 1 year from now? The answer, they probably won't. If you thought the 360 had hardware failure, wait until Blu-ray starts dropping left and right.
The numbers are awful, but if the failure rate is as high as I expect it's going to be a sad sad day for Sony/consumers.
Yes. Am I surprised? No.
It's surprising how demand for these are so high and production is so low. I mean, just yesterday we read about millions of iPhones coming for EARLY next year... but PS3, which has been anticipated is going to launch with a paltry number of units? Seems to me that Sony don't really care much about their customer base.
Well, not so much the base as the loyalty. Good bye Mr. Sony, hello Mr. Wii.
What, are they going to have negative PS3s?
So, at E3 there were going to be a million, then they had to reduce it to 400,000 a few months before launch. Then the day before, the announced there would only be 200,000. So I'm expecting them at about 6pm to say they only have 100,000 in retail stores, then at 9pm, they'll announce that due to an error some boxes did not have a PS3 placed in them before shipping, so really stores only have 50,000 or so, and then at 11 they'll announce contract dispute with retailers, meaning only 20,000 will be allowed to be sold, and at midnight they'll announce that the North American launch has been delayed until March 2007.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
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Fewer units than WE hoped for, or than SONY hoped for?
Though personally I don't care anymore. I'll wait for the price to hit $250.
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I'm really not that upset about the shortages of available PS3s. I want one, but really, those guys that I saw with their tents set up outside of best buy on my way to work this morning, tents covered with a layer of ice- they want it more than I do- and so that's fine.
The thing is, I do wish sony would just come out and admit that this isn't really so much of a launch as a preview. Then they could tell us when they are going to really launch- launch as in, if I were to stand in line for 3 or 4 hours I would be able to get one. That's the thing, I would be willing to stand in line for several hours- maybe even camp out- if I thought there was any sort of reasonable chance of getting one. The fact is that if I lined up in front of best buy this evening and tried to get one at 8am tomorrow, I would be probably like the 20th person in line to NOT get one.
I will stand in line for the Wii though- not that I want it more than the PS3 (I'm actually slightly less excited about it, because until I actually have a chance to play it I'm still just not sure how well the wiimote is going to work out) but because i know that I might actually have a chance to get one.
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If we assume every game sold earns Sony $20, then each of these PS3s would need to have 15 games sold. Drop it to the more realistic $10 (or less) per game in fees, and we're talking like 30 games/system sold to break even.
I'm not saying it's not true, it just seems unlikely. Sony can't realistically expect to get 30+ games sold/system.
My word to post anonymously was "consoles". What're the odds?
Of course they're shipping fewer units. They know they're not going to beat the 360 or Wii heads up, so they're hoping to create an artificial shortage and get some news stories about frazzled geeks sitting outside the store for days to buy one, or spending thousands on eBay. Unfortunately, that's the only kind of publicity the PS3 is likely to get, other than a lot of people renaming it "PS teh suXXXor"
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I fear this rumor is untrue, well at least where they say there will be no 20 gig units in the U.S. The gamestop near me claims they only have 20 gig units.
I fail to see how having fewer PS3s availible has less impact on the potential sales of titles for the system. It looks to me as a "everybody loses" situation, with this being the most positive way to word it. Better than, "Hey, some of you are slightly less screwed!"
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the PS3 is so powerful, there can be only ONE.
Let me guess: You live in China and your job is to translate all those instruction manuals into English?
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Imagine the lawsuit payout you'll get this time around for the lasers that break, like the ps2 settlement! Keep your receipts kids, hell, tape it to the system, the blu ray laser might cost $599 to repair. On second thought, the ps3 battery might explode into flames, better keep that receipt in a fireproof safe. from 1 million to 200,000? I'd be fired if I only performed at 20%!
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The Fred Meyer by my house has a confirmed 2 60GB and 2 20GB shipment of PS3s.
The difference between the cost of the parts of an Xbox 360 and a low end PS3 is $482.55. Even with manufacturing costs and other costs getting the system to the store, in order for Microsoft to lose as much money per console as Sony they would have to price an Xbox 360 at $99.
Microsoft makes over 10 billion dollars a year in profit. They can afford to lose money in the short term for long term profits. Video on demand is going to be huge. Once they get a large install base, they can start providing video download services for other electronic manufacturers. You could buy a Toshiba DVD player which has video on demand provided by Microsoft. Microsoft and Toshiba would each make a few pennies for each download that the customer makes. There will be competitors, but that's business. While Sony has Blu Ray as its huge potential market, Microsoft has video on demand.
If Microsoft wanted to really screw Sony, they could have a one day sale with the Xbox 360 premium and a copy of Gear of War for $299. If they feel like it, throw in a year of Xbox Live Gold and a copy of Project Gotham Racing 3. Or a Core system with a memory card and a copy of Project Gotham Racing for $199. Nov 16 would be a great date. Right between the PS3 and Wii launch. It would cost Microsoft money, but it would steal thunder from their competitors. Of course, it's too late now.
It will be interesting to see whether the PS3 is worth $499 for the low end model. I honestly believe that people will buy the Wii regardless of what it costs or what the other console makers do. You're either a Wii fan or your not.
Taiwan will only have 500 units for the whole country! Granted there are only about 23m people living there but still... why bother?
What's with all the PS3 articles? Is this the only thing /. can come up with to report? Actually, they're all the same article "5 days left..." "4 days left..." "shortage article #1" "shortage article #2"
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I mentioned this in another thread, but my brother works at one of the local Toys R Us stores, and he received their PS3 shipment yesterday.
They got three.
Apparently they are supposed to receive another five today.
They have around fifteen or so pre-orders, so needless to say he's going to have an interesting weekend at work.
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I thought you were owned by China now. That means "your" country only has 500 PS3s for 1 billion people!
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To this point, I would also like to note that the manufacturer's warranty on the PS3 is only 90 days. The Wii's is 1 year. Might want to consider those service plans when you pick up your system tomorrow.
Today's the 16th. One day before launch.
We finally got 1/3 of our (reduced) allotment of launch date PS3's in. The other two are who knows where.
No launch games have been delivered, nor have any of the accessories.
Sony, in it's infinite wisdom, seems to have given ever box it's own purchase order number. Which means that the carriers make no attempt to keep all the boxes together, which they would with a single P.O. number.
So, we have 2 PS3's. No games. No accessories.
Nintendo however has nearly doubled our launch allotment of the Wii.
Exactly why I don't buy Sony products anymore. A $500-600 piece of hardware shoud be guaranteed to work for at least a year.
My PS2 broke after 4 months. With a little Photoshop magic, I was able to "extend" my 90-day warranty to cover it. It then broke again, 2 weeks after I got it back. It then broke again about 4-5 months later and I haven't touched it since. I've also Photoshopped receipts for a few of my friend's defective PS2s (all of which no longer work now).
Broken DVD players, CD changers, car head units. No exaggeration, 4 out of 5 Sony products that friends or family own are broken at least partially. I try as hard as I can to plead with family and friends to stay away from Sony. Sony makes shit quality products now, with crappy warranties. It's sad because they used to make quality stuff.
if the parts are hard to break and new, how do we know they will still work 1 year from now?
What?!?!
"Goddamnit, I can't break this controller. How the hell am I supposed to calculate the expected lifetime if I can't even break it in the first place?"
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...to everyone that Sony are only releasing the bare minimum number of consoles to keep the public's interest in their latest console?
At launch they're losing so much on each unit sold that they're no doubt just waiting to build demand before starting larger (and therefore lower cost per unit) runs of the necessary high cost components.
Fewer PS3 Units Tomorrow Than Hoped For?
I doubt that considering I've been hoping for NONE. So unless Sony has started making their PS3s out of anti-matter (which, by the way, is more plentiful and cheaper than PS3s) then they will probably exceed my personal expectations.
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