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80 Gig PS3 For South Korea, Slow April for Sony
The South Koreans are about to see the PlayStation 3 launched in their nation, and they're getting a treat the rest of the world will have to wait on: a PS3 with an 80 gig hard drive. Meanwhile, NPD numbers show that the company's games division suffered greatly during April, likely as a result of few titles released during that month. "Though the company saw a bump in PSP sales, Nintendo DS continues to curb stomp the portable PlayStation. More disappointing, however, must have been seeing PlayStation 3 decline in sales of almost 50,000 units between March and April ... If April was tough, May looks bleaker. Karraker wouldn't speculate on sales, but outside of MLB 07: The Show's release at the end of April, there are no first-party releases coming to PS3 in May. In fact, there are only two May PS3 games period: Surf's Up and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. Both are multi-platform releases."
Sony's stock overall just hit a five year high due to their exceeding sales in other departments. Wonder if that 80 GB PS3 will come over here? Guess it doesn't matter that much, as you can purchase your own drives to put in the PS3.
What I've found interesting is that I've been reading a lot of news about upcoming PS3 releases recently, (not necessarily releases coming this month of course.) Conversely, it seems that news about the Wii have been tapering off - certainly from what the volume when it was first released. xbox360 news seems to have been holding steady.
This is, of course, an entirely subjective observation. Anyone care to corroborate or counter what I've noticed?
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Sony wouldn't have such a huge problem if they could back the vicious cycle they are within.
1.) Console too expensive to justify buying given lack of games.
2.) Less consumers adopt PS3.
3.) Developers see gamers going to other platform, eliminate exclusives.
4.) Repeat (1), removing PS3 exclusives gone multi-platform from equation.
Wii By a landslide, 360 with a strong following, PS3 in a small niche. All will have some great games, but Sony will get some much deserved humiliation.
Anything that'll stop'em eating dogs and mixing tea and coffee works for me!
One day, one days soon, I will wake up and there will be news for the PS3, good news. I fully expect it to be full wiimote support. Or maybe some games. Honestly, all the news we get is "Sony is not doing well, and there really isn't any reason for them to do well in the near future, yadda yadda yadda, blu-ray"
Face it, Sony just can't catch a break.
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If you compare sales per week for the PS1 PS2 and PS3, PS3 is already outselling the PS1 by 2-3x and its just a 100,000 units or so behind the PS2. Of course, people on forums and such have a selective memory.... they just choose to block all this out.
I always cringe whenever people use this term in a setting that does not call for one to be an internet asshole.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm glad to see Nintendo back on top again. I honestly didn't think they had it in them, but am glad they proved me wrong. When I look at Sony today, I see Nintendo a decade ago. They thought they had the market cornered, they figured they could do no wrong, that people would automatically buy whatever they produced. But they failed to innovate in ways that was interesting to the market, and now they will face some harsh times and harsh realities. But they'll bounce back. Just like Nintendo, Sony has the resources to bounce back, no matter how poorly the PS3 does. I personally think this is healthy for Sony, the way it was for Nintendo. It will teach them the humility they need to get back on their feet.
And who will it benefit the most? Why you, the consumer. The video game industry needs competition. They'll each continue to press boundries of what is possible with video games in order to stay alive in the industry and they'll continue to keep the prices low (on games at least). Lucky you...
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Right here. You're correct regarding Wii's decline, but it's a decline from the massive surge of news about how Wii won the console war. And it's still far ahead of the other two, with Sony predictably languishing in third place
I just bought an XBox 360 last week, and the reason wasn't strictly the price, or the anemic selection of games for the PS3. The number one reason that swayed me to the 360 isn't even an official feature: It's backups. Even if there was a workaround for playing backups on the PS3 (and AFAIK, there isn't), the $25 discs make it impractical. Sure it's cheaper than buying another copy, assuming you don't make any coasters, but it's still almost 15 times more than the price of DVD9 discs to make 360 backups.
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How do you get paid for posting this stuff as an AC? Doesn't Sony's marketing department require some sort of proof?
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I don't know where this myth that the PS2 "Started out Slow" came from but it is simply not true ...
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The PS2 was the fastest selling system in Japan over its first year, and was heavily supply limited for its first year in North America and Europe. By the time the Gamecube and XBox were released the PS2 had already sold 20 Million units worldwide (roughly twice as many as the XBox 360 has in the same time frame) and exploded in sales from there due to the release of GTA, MGS2 and FFX.
Fucking PS3 fans are resorting to rewriting history to make the PS3's sales look anything except for awful
It is selling at a similar rate to the Dreamcast and probably has the same fate
1.) Console too expensive to justify buying given lack of games.
2.) Less consumers adopt PS3.
3.) Developers see gamers going to other platform, eliminate exclusives.
4.) Repeat (1), removing PS3 exclusives gone multi-platform from equation.
try:
5.) ???
6.) Profit!
catch:
7.) Put as much spin on your stats you could dry your clothes on it. e.g., claiming that PS/3s are readily in stock due to superior supply-side infrastructure, as opposed to lagging sales.
Unfortunately, this is one very real case I highly doubt Sony will even reach step 5.
Solomon
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Reply to another post. I love to hear your 12-year old mouth whine and brag about the superiority of his penis, I mean pump-up tennis shoes, I mean -- I'm sorry, I meant PS3.
*shakes head* Sony even sucks in professional video now. I'd rather buy ten Samsung CCD cameras for the price of one Sony.
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but that would only apply if they were released the same year. The GBA is over 5 years old. We're not talking about the GBA-DS, just the GBA.
We're making a comparison under these assumptions:
1) You would think that the market for GBAs has been saturated, or that new players (i.e. kids) would opt for a GBA-DS to be able to play games for both systems.
2) In otherwords, there is a market comprised late-technology-adopters who are cost sensitive, and are probably buying the units for themselves for the purpose of playing specific games (perhaps SNES conversions... more represented on the GBA than the DS). The other segment of the market are gifts from [parents] to children who don't know the difference, and want it to play movie/TV/etc adaptation properties which comprise a large portion of the existing GBA title library.
Therefore, the market for the PS3 ("serious gamers") is outsized by poor retro gamers who don't know how to use emulators, and tweens who want to play Harry Potter.
I don't think Sony is happy with this, do you?
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I'd like to see the PS3 succeed for one reason: competition. I don't mean that it necessarily has to dominate the market like the PS2 did, but it needs to sell well enough that it's considered a viable platform and regarded as an actual competitor.
We have the Xbox360, but I don't really consider it a true competitor to the Wii because those two systems aren't really seen as inhabiting the same market space. The primary problem is how poorly it's done in Japan. The fact that the system is virtually nonexistent in one of the biggest gaming markets in the world means it's always going to lose out when it comes to variety of games. Clearly, the Xbox360 has fared far better than the original Xbox, but I still see it as potentially ending up in the same situation as the Sega Genesis relative to the SNES.
The Xbox360 certainly is significant and it may turn out to be more of a challenge to Nintendo than we realize now, but it's going to require more than Halo 3 and other such games to accomplish that. But, like I've said, they've likely already lost the Japanese market. The saving grace is that Japanese companies keep developing games for the system.
The PS3 has the potential to be a competitor for both consoles because of the potential for such a variety of games, at least if it sees anything like the sort of development the PS2 has. The PS2 really had games of all types and some were truly innovative. Really the only thing it lacked was anything from Nintendo.
My point here is that if Nintendo returns to the sort of dominance it had in the past it will also revert to the same sort of tactics it used back then, back when they were the heavy-handed monopoly. If it weren't for Nintendo falling behind in the last two generations of consoles we probably wouldn't have seen the DS or the Wii.
I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 will start catching up around 2008. Because by then any combination of factors below will come to light. A) they will have thier act together and build a equal to Microsofts XNA tools for developers B) Enough Games will have caught onto the system that people will actually want to buy it. C) Sony might release the lockdown access to the video for linux so that games can be made for the linux portion of the PS3 D) Sony will have figured out the right addons to the system in order to enhance the gameplay. Powerglove equivalent and Virtual reality tech come to mind. As well as thier new virtual home setup with trophies and online buyable content. E) Will be about the point where just about every home has an HDTV able to take advantage of the higher quality graphics at 1080p. It will also likely be about the point that the xbox 360 maxes out its abilities. F) Pricedrops- this being the key most important part.
Yeah, games like Godfather: Blackhand Edition, Elebits, Trauma Center, Madden or Rayman really are jokes. No, wait, they're not - even the ports are often better on the Wii than on other consoles.
but the big first party titles like Metroid are looking like crap.Yeah, because Metroid: Prime is only about the third-highest rated game of all time, so the sequel surely must be crap.
I'm not even sure why you bothered to post. Nobody is going to take your fanboy ranting seriously.
Isn't the S. Korean console market typically not a big winner since they are historically PC gamers primarily? I believe they have (had?) ridiculous tariffs related to (Japanese) video game consoles, leaving pretty much no competition for the PC market. The news reads to me as 'Sony releases their floundering console to an uninterested market'
Sorry, I'm having trouble reading this. You opened a bunch of tags instead of closing them. Let me just say that comparing the PS3 to the 360 is a bad idea. The 360 is a miserable failure. It had the whole next-gen market to itself for a whole year, it has tons of A-List titles from all kinds of genres, yet it still does not manage to outsell the original Xbox.
Yes. The PS3 will probably catch up with the 360 within a few years. That's not success, that's a disgrace. It should have outsold the 360 within a year or two, and it should have sold four or even five times as many consoles within 6 years.
And no. The Cell isn't what you think it is.
1. The figures for ps1 were from an era with less people. The numbers for ps3 should be much better now.
2. Sony was a completely unproven upstart in gaming at the time. The HUUUGE lead in from the ps2 should lead to much, much better numbers for the ps3.
3. Sony based their business plan on better numbers for the ps3.
It's not a selective memory. The bar is raised each generation, because gaming has gone from millions of dollars to billions of dollars.
I couldn't let this one go: "A) they will have thier act together and build a equal to Microsofts XNA tools for developers" PS3 programming will never be XNA simple. And there isn't another company in the world that can do XNA. Their XNA is LittleBigPlanet (level design game) and Home (where they will host 'gadget' level stuff). That's it, and Home customization on that level isn't coming in 2008. This is the console that took months to adapt fl0w - XNA isn't happening. Harrison's speech about user content is pretty much going to mean Home and LBP.
The Wii is selling on a PS2 track. The PS3 is about 1.5 million behind.
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http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2®
Admittedly it's quite hard to tell from this plot, but it shows PS2 and Wii are similar, and Wii is about 1.5 Million ahead of PS3 in North America.
A lot of people have replied to this assuming the parent was correct, but it aint.
(Umm, unless the claim is that PS3 is only 100,000 per week ahead, but that is pretty catastrophic if it's true.)