My 15k drives aren't terribly hot, but my computers happened to be designed for them. It has a three drive holder mounted transversely in front of the power supply intake, with maybe 3/8" space between each drive and vents on the cage sides. That power supply intake is handled with a 12cm fan. It's not a fast 12cm fan, which helps the accoustics, and it's doing a decent job of moving air.
Where SATAII shines is with the port multipliers. That way, you only need one data cable between a computer and a five drive cage and it's faster than Gigabit Ethernet and even Fiberchannel, though there probably is a 4gbit and higher fiberchannel, they are a lot more expensive.
Intel's first Quad chip will be two dual cores, but they have one coming next year that won't be.
Anandtech's review of the Core 2 comes up just short of stating that the FSB is going to bottleneck Intel's 2P system (Woodcrest) probably, and wisely, waiting until 2P benchmarks come in. We're all waiting on those, as they will reveal much.
The Woodcrest system doesn't share an FSB between the processor sockets, each being a little faster on the FSB than Conroe, so FSB should not be a problem for Woodcrest systems. It might be a problem for Clovertown.
I am curious what sort of single user app will show a difference between the dual-die approach and the single die approach on the first quad core chips. I remember some mention that the new game engines support dual core capable, but can they take advantage of a quad? I don't think media encoding will be hurt as that's mostly processor power.
I wonder if there's something that happens at 10k RPM. The 10k drives I have are a bit louder, though not terribly so, in my opinion. My 10k drives aren't Raptors.
The 15k drives that I have are very quiet. I'm only rarely more aware of them than my Seagate 7.2k drives, and those are pretty quiet too.
I don't believe for a minute that they didn't think of that. Out of 4,500 developers at WWDC, it only takes one dishonest person.
I also challenge the notion that the disc was "given". It wasn't a gift. That preview is what developers get for being part of an expensive developer program or as part of an expensive developer's convention. They need that to test and develop their software so it is ready when the OS is released.
Tiger wasn't the great leap forward that Apple promoted them to be either. I don't think a whole lot of people used more than 5% of any of the "200+ features". Does anyone use Automator? It can do nice things but has very curious short comings, like the inability to loop or branch or conditional execution. Heck, it has the feature to combine PDFs but doesn't offer a way to SAVE those PDFs to a known file name, the combined PDFs end up in the/tmp/ directory. I used the image scaling, renaming and conversion features to do batch image processing, but later I found that iPhoto can do the same thing.
How about: how does this bypass the Berne Copyright Convention? Sweden is a signatory. I know that most countries don't completely abide by all their treaties, Sweden seems to be the biggest violator of Berne in the developed world.
It sounds like something that can easily cause more harm than good. Storms disrupt satellite service, but not for long that I've seen. There aren't a whole lot of publicly confirmed "deaths" of satellites by solar storm. There are a few, but I don't think it happens anywhere nearly often enough to warrant this.
I think it's also lesson not to depend on GPS too much.
I thought to be a legal contract, there has to be an exchange. Even if one side pays just $1 for an item or service. That is a term that you'd find on occasion. That would be scary though if people had to pay for a service pack.
"do you see Microsoft exiting this market once they enter it?" Microsoft rarely concedes defeat; they just release a new version.
Microsoft is a long term company. They have been defeated at times (Bob, Ultimate TV and their internet-on-TV box are examples, they died pretty quietly) but they've managed to hold on to several markets. Their pocket OS is still around and now a strong player though in a weak market of PDAs (I think they are in more PDAs than Palm's OS), and there are a lot of Windows phones. There are definitely a lot more Microsoft-based phones than there are Apple-based or iTunes-based phones. Now, to compete against Windows phones, Apple would have to get their phone mostly right the first iteration, and the more they wait, the weaker their chances are.
I am enjoying it, but we have to keep in mind they can't live on venture capital forever. Trying to ignore the problem doesn't mean it's not there. Remember, people ignored the problem of no business model in the 90's to their own detriment, and the gravy train died and now I see a resurgence of the same attitude that brought about the dot-bomb.
At least Google didn't have such high per-user bandwidth and Flash licencing expenses. Whatever YouTube comes up with for a money maker is something that the user base must accept, I mean, Napster wasn't embraced once they had a business model and has been a money sink since then. The text ads for Google worked out, but as I remember, there was no fall-back plan if that didn't work.
In an age where alleged hardware enthusiast sites need a dozen ads on every page of an article, I have to wonder by what means YouTube is going to be sustained.
Personally, I would not mind paying for premium features like better encoding and a full-screen playback feature. Maybe they have a for-pay IPTV-like app in the works, if you don't pay, you get the four-inch window available now. I would accept that, but would enough users upgrade?
because you cannot be found guilty of thinking about a crime.
A group in Canada was arrested for thinking about bombing a Hudson tunnel. A group in Miami was arrested for thinking about bombing buildings in Chicago. Not only didn't they have bombs, they didn't have materials or knowledge of how to put one together. They didn't even have money or connections, just that, as sick as they were, they wanted to perform bombings, at the time of the arrests, they simply didn't have any capacity to carry it out. Given that these were effectively pre-crime, it's not much of a leap as you think.
How many people do you know that use (or need) a Dell Precision or any other Xeon-based system? They are an incredibly niche type of computer that's of little significance to the overall market.
Before anyone jumps on me, I do want the Mac Pro, I might even consider getting it. But I'm just saying that the Stevenote comparison to the Dell Precision 690 is bunk, or at best greatly overstates the difference because the machines aren't comparable.
One thing to keep in mind is that Apple is offing a consumer video card in their base price vs. Dell's Quadro offering across the Precision line (a few hundred dollars minimum price difference), and Dell's BASE warranty support is better than if you bought the 3yr. AppleCare (a $250 extra, add a few hundred for on-site support that doesn't exist through Apple). Not only that, the Precision 690 that was compared supports up to 64GB of memory vs. Apple's 16GB. Apple's unit is somewhat less capable than a Precision 590, which is a couple hundred dollars cheaper than 690. Dell even says they offer an SLI configuration, Apple doesn't, though I don't know how they do it with the 5000X chipset.
Frankly, I have to wonder if Apple's sales of the Mac Pros are going to be inflated because they don't offer consumer towers. I don't think so much because the memory for the Mac Pro is quite expensive.
Apple makes it easy but their software is also aggravating in some respects. iMovie's titling system is extremely constricted, most titling themes don't allow you any control over placement. iDVD is the program you use to author a DVD from a video file, and its audio and video encoding is basically single-threaded, so despite having a dual processor system, that program won't be any faster than if you had a single processor system.
Why would Apple put a Merom in an iMac? Merom's a notebook processor. Conroe I could understand... that's the desktop one, and I doubt the iMacs are ready for Xeons.
Core Duo was a notebook processor and Apple put them in the iMacs. That said, they probably did that so they can get to market quicker. Merom doesn't make so much sense when Conroe is about $100 cheaper than the Merom counterpart.
Xeon is targeted at a different market, that being workstations and servers, the iMac is definitely neither.
What was the point of that button? Backward compatibility with slower machines? I didn't know, all I knew was that it was a speed switch and my mom always told me to keep the "turbo" off because I didn't need that speed and she thought it used a lot more electricity when it was on. At the time, I simply didn't know how to respond to that because I didn't know what it did other than change the computer speed.
Is this really a cluster? Nothing about the system says conventional cluster anyways, just about everything is proprietary to Cray. If it's a cluster then it's certainly not in the original spirit of Beowulf clustering. It does not link together inexpensive servers with non-proprietary networks. Each Opteron core's hyper transport connection links directly into a very high performance network.
The July 7th London bombers weren't very sophistocated, either. Nor were the Columbine shooters.
I don't think those are comparable within several orders of magnitude. The first group obviously had things that the recent groups did not, sufficient materials, money, contacts and so on to actually carry out the ambitions the feds claimed they had. The Columbine kids didn't kill anywhere nearly as many people as a bomb might.
I maintain that the only point in arresting the Miami and Canadian groups was for a PR campaign. If they didn't even have the ability to get or make the bombs, then there wasn't much of a bomb plot. The Big Dig contractors themselves were more of a threat to the Big Dig tunnels than that group that wanted to collapse the Hudson tunnel.
Or you can spin it such that the scientific community doesn't have the balls to admit that they made a mistake. Such is human.
Frankly, I think this whole argument is a bit of a distraction. It strikes me to be a lot of wasted time and energy. What type of object it is called doesn't change what the object is, unless somehow quantum mechanics applis to an object several thousands of km in diameter.
Signatures are like bumper stickers. Anyone that thinks they are an effective tool of persuasion is fooling themselves. I think both are messy too, as such, I have my forum settings such that I don't see them.
Back at the CES, wasn't an MS exec hyping a slew of new features in Vista, all of which already existed in commercially available versions of OS X for several years? Someone has even made a video displaying OS X's features in sync with the audio of the supposed new features of Vista which wasn't publically released at the time.
I really don't want to humor the article by following the link because I suspect a Dvorak-ism going on here.
It's possible that they were MS ideas which Apple managed to beat MS to the market on those features by several years, but frankly, many of those ideas are likely from somewhere else.
The "spaces" feature is Apple catching up on the virtual desktop concept (was available as an XP PowerToy, but before then, was an X window feature), but none of the other introduced features seemed to be rips of Vista.
I have a MacBook Pro that's been working fine. My only complaint is the heat. The responses I get from typical fanboys are "It's no hotter than the previous generation" and "it's no hotter than the comparable computers". That maybe, but I don't care about such stupid comebacks, because my previous notebook wasn't anywhere near that hot. So Apple has to use the absolute hottest notebook chips, and unlike every other notebook maker, they offer absolutely no models that use the cooler running ones. An L2400 (1.66GHz Core Duo) would suite me fine, it operates at 15W max as opposed to the 31W max that the T-series does, the 1.2 GHz U2500 chip operates at 9W max. Intel offers a Core Solo chip (U1400, 1.2GHz) that runs at 5.5W. Apple doesn't offer any means to throttle the clock rate either, for most of my use, I don't want anything faster than 1GHz if I have to sweat because of it.
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My 15k drives aren't terribly hot, but my computers happened to be designed for them. It has a three drive holder mounted transversely in front of the power supply intake, with maybe 3/8" space between each drive and vents on the cage sides. That power supply intake is handled with a 12cm fan. It's not a fast 12cm fan, which helps the accoustics, and it's doing a decent job of moving air.
Where SATAII shines is with the port multipliers. That way, you only need one data cable between a computer and a five drive cage and it's faster than Gigabit Ethernet and even Fiberchannel, though there probably is a 4gbit and higher fiberchannel, they are a lot more expensive.
Intel's first Quad chip will be two dual cores, but they have one coming next year that won't be.
Anandtech's review of the Core 2 comes up just short of stating that the FSB is going to bottleneck Intel's 2P system (Woodcrest) probably, and wisely, waiting until 2P benchmarks come in. We're all waiting on those, as they will reveal much.
The Woodcrest system doesn't share an FSB between the processor sockets, each being a little faster on the FSB than Conroe, so FSB should not be a problem for Woodcrest systems. It might be a problem for Clovertown.
I am curious what sort of single user app will show a difference between the dual-die approach and the single die approach on the first quad core chips. I remember some mention that the new game engines support dual core capable, but can they take advantage of a quad? I don't think media encoding will be hurt as that's mostly processor power.
I wonder if there's something that happens at 10k RPM. The 10k drives I have are a bit louder, though not terribly so, in my opinion. My 10k drives aren't Raptors.
The 15k drives that I have are very quiet. I'm only rarely more aware of them than my Seagate 7.2k drives, and those are pretty quiet too.
I don't believe for a minute that they didn't think of that. Out of 4,500 developers at WWDC, it only takes one dishonest person.
I also challenge the notion that the disc was "given". It wasn't a gift. That preview is what developers get for being part of an expensive developer program or as part of an expensive developer's convention. They need that to test and develop their software so it is ready when the OS is released.
Tiger wasn't the great leap forward that Apple promoted them to be either. I don't think a whole lot of people used more than 5% of any of the "200+ features". Does anyone use Automator? It can do nice things but has very curious short comings, like the inability to loop or branch or conditional execution. Heck, it has the feature to combine PDFs but doesn't offer a way to SAVE those PDFs to a known file name, the combined PDFs end up in the /tmp/ directory. I used the image scaling, renaming and conversion features to do batch image processing, but later I found that iPhoto can do the same thing.
How about: how does this bypass the Berne Copyright Convention? Sweden is a signatory. I know that most countries don't completely abide by all their treaties, Sweden seems to be the biggest violator of Berne in the developed world.
It sounds like something that can easily cause more harm than good. Storms disrupt satellite service, but not for long that I've seen. There aren't a whole lot of publicly confirmed "deaths" of satellites by solar storm. There are a few, but I don't think it happens anywhere nearly often enough to warrant this.
I think it's also lesson not to depend on GPS too much.
Just turn off the LCD and use the optical view finder
Are there any that use the main optics? Maybe SLRs do, but I'm not that familiar with them.
I thought that was the issue, you can't be sure you have the subject properly framed without a display.
I thought to be a legal contract, there has to be an exchange. Even if one side pays just $1 for an item or service. That is a term that you'd find on occasion. That would be scary though if people had to pay for a service pack.
"do you see Microsoft exiting this market once they enter it?" Microsoft rarely concedes defeat; they just release a new version.
Microsoft is a long term company. They have been defeated at times (Bob, Ultimate TV and their internet-on-TV box are examples, they died pretty quietly) but they've managed to hold on to several markets. Their pocket OS is still around and now a strong player though in a weak market of PDAs (I think they are in more PDAs than Palm's OS), and there are a lot of Windows phones. There are definitely a lot more Microsoft-based phones than there are Apple-based or iTunes-based phones. Now, to compete against Windows phones, Apple would have to get their phone mostly right the first iteration, and the more they wait, the weaker their chances are.
I am enjoying it, but we have to keep in mind they can't live on venture capital forever. Trying to ignore the problem doesn't mean it's not there. Remember, people ignored the problem of no business model in the 90's to their own detriment, and the gravy train died and now I see a resurgence of the same attitude that brought about the dot-bomb.
At least Google didn't have such high per-user bandwidth and Flash licencing expenses. Whatever YouTube comes up with for a money maker is something that the user base must accept, I mean, Napster wasn't embraced once they had a business model and has been a money sink since then. The text ads for Google worked out, but as I remember, there was no fall-back plan if that didn't work.
In an age where alleged hardware enthusiast sites need a dozen ads on every page of an article, I have to wonder by what means YouTube is going to be sustained.
Personally, I would not mind paying for premium features like better encoding and a full-screen playback feature. Maybe they have a for-pay IPTV-like app in the works, if you don't pay, you get the four-inch window available now. I would accept that, but would enough users upgrade?
because you cannot be found guilty of thinking about a crime.
A group in Canada was arrested for thinking about bombing a Hudson tunnel. A group in Miami was arrested for thinking about bombing buildings in Chicago. Not only didn't they have bombs, they didn't have materials or knowledge of how to put one together. They didn't even have money or connections, just that, as sick as they were, they wanted to perform bombings, at the time of the arrests, they simply didn't have any capacity to carry it out. Given that these were effectively pre-crime, it's not much of a leap as you think.
I would imagine Apples profit per unit sold is much greater then Dells
Dell still gets a pretty big profit margin though. From information in a recent financial report, something like 17%. Apple was around 25%.
How many people do you know that use (or need) a Dell Precision or any other Xeon-based system? They are an incredibly niche type of computer that's of little significance to the overall market.
Before anyone jumps on me, I do want the Mac Pro, I might even consider getting it. But I'm just saying that the Stevenote comparison to the Dell Precision 690 is bunk, or at best greatly overstates the difference because the machines aren't comparable.
One thing to keep in mind is that Apple is offing a consumer video card in their base price vs. Dell's Quadro offering across the Precision line (a few hundred dollars minimum price difference), and Dell's BASE warranty support is better than if you bought the 3yr. AppleCare (a $250 extra, add a few hundred for on-site support that doesn't exist through Apple). Not only that, the Precision 690 that was compared supports up to 64GB of memory vs. Apple's 16GB. Apple's unit is somewhat less capable than a Precision 590, which is a couple hundred dollars cheaper than 690. Dell even says they offer an SLI configuration, Apple doesn't, though I don't know how they do it with the 5000X chipset.
Frankly, I have to wonder if Apple's sales of the Mac Pros are going to be inflated because they don't offer consumer towers. I don't think so much because the memory for the Mac Pro is quite expensive.
Apple makes it easy but their software is also aggravating in some respects. iMovie's titling system is extremely constricted, most titling themes don't allow you any control over placement. iDVD is the program you use to author a DVD from a video file, and its audio and video encoding is basically single-threaded, so despite having a dual processor system, that program won't be any faster than if you had a single processor system.
Why would Apple put a Merom in an iMac? Merom's a notebook processor. Conroe I could understand... that's the desktop one, and I doubt the iMacs are ready for Xeons.
Core Duo was a notebook processor and Apple put them in the iMacs. That said, they probably did that so they can get to market quicker. Merom doesn't make so much sense when Conroe is about $100 cheaper than the Merom counterpart.
Xeon is targeted at a different market, that being workstations and servers, the iMac is definitely neither.
Bits aren't individually addressed. Bytes are. The number of registers doesn't have anything to do with it.
What was the point of that button? Backward compatibility with slower machines? I didn't know, all I knew was that it was a speed switch and my mom always told me to keep the "turbo" off because I didn't need that speed and she thought it used a lot more electricity when it was on. At the time, I simply didn't know how to respond to that because I didn't know what it did other than change the computer speed.
Is this really a cluster? Nothing about the system says conventional cluster anyways, just about everything is proprietary to Cray. If it's a cluster then it's certainly not in the original spirit of Beowulf clustering. It does not link together inexpensive servers with non-proprietary networks. Each Opteron core's hyper transport connection links directly into a very high performance network.
The July 7th London bombers weren't very sophistocated, either. Nor were the Columbine shooters.
I don't think those are comparable within several orders of magnitude. The first group obviously had things that the recent groups did not, sufficient materials, money, contacts and so on to actually carry out the ambitions the feds claimed they had. The Columbine kids didn't kill anywhere nearly as many people as a bomb might.
I maintain that the only point in arresting the Miami and Canadian groups was for a PR campaign. If they didn't even have the ability to get or make the bombs, then there wasn't much of a bomb plot. The Big Dig contractors themselves were more of a threat to the Big Dig tunnels than that group that wanted to collapse the Hudson tunnel.
Or you can spin it such that the scientific community doesn't have the balls to admit that they made a mistake. Such is human.
Frankly, I think this whole argument is a bit of a distraction. It strikes me to be a lot of wasted time and energy. What type of object it is called doesn't change what the object is, unless somehow quantum mechanics applis to an object several thousands of km in diameter.
please see my sig.
Signatures are like bumper stickers. Anyone that thinks they are an effective tool of persuasion is fooling themselves. I think both are messy too, as such, I have my forum settings such that I don't see them.
Back at the CES, wasn't an MS exec hyping a slew of new features in Vista, all of which already existed in commercially available versions of OS X for several years? Someone has even made a video displaying OS X's features in sync with the audio of the supposed new features of Vista which wasn't publically released at the time.
I really don't want to humor the article by following the link because I suspect a Dvorak-ism going on here.
It's possible that they were MS ideas which Apple managed to beat MS to the market on those features by several years, but frankly, many of those ideas are likely from somewhere else.
The "spaces" feature is Apple catching up on the virtual desktop concept (was available as an XP PowerToy, but before then, was an X window feature), but none of the other introduced features seemed to be rips of Vista.
I have a MacBook Pro that's been working fine. My only complaint is the heat. The responses I get from typical fanboys are "It's no hotter than the previous generation" and "it's no hotter than the comparable computers". That maybe, but I don't care about such stupid comebacks, because my previous notebook wasn't anywhere near that hot. So Apple has to use the absolute hottest notebook chips, and unlike every other notebook maker, they offer absolutely no models that use the cooler running ones. An L2400 (1.66GHz Core Duo) would suite me fine, it operates at 15W max as opposed to the 31W max that the T-series does, the 1.2 GHz U2500 chip operates at 9W max. Intel offers a Core Solo chip (U1400, 1.2GHz) that runs at 5.5W. Apple doesn't offer any means to throttle the clock rate either, for most of my use, I don't want anything faster than 1GHz if I have to sweat because of it.